New XDAIIi user a little disheartened - MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General

Hi, this is my first post to these forums, although I did spend a couple of hours browsing after finding them last night.
Having played with my wife's month old Mio168/TomTom5 and loved it, I decided that when my CPW/o2 contract was up I'd go for a pda/phone rather than the SE K750i I had previously been planning on.
I did just a little research and went for the XDAIIi over the MDAIII (don't like T-Mobile's pricing!) and XDAIIs (no wi-fi, slower and unnecessary keyboard).
I initially thought I had a great unit but things haven't been as smooth as I expected.
http://www.globalpositioningsystems.co.uk supplied me with a Holux combined GPS receiver/cradle, Kingston 512MB SD card and screen protector at very reasonable prices and with swift delivery.
First thing I noticed was that whenever the phone utility was brought on-screen, it showed me that my last caller was the very first person I had phoned on it. After any call, the same info would pop back to the display, too.
Another little thing that surprised me was the SIM code entry. I have set an 8 digit code. When I enter the first number it appears on the display as an asterisk but when I hit the second, the first two numbers appear (the asterisk changes to the digit). Is this normal or a quirk of having '08' as the first two digits of my code?
TomTom5 installed fine but kept randomly freezing (whenever a call or txt msg came in it was certain to happen) so I contacted o2 Customer Support who told me to take it back to be checked out.
Three days after installing the card (and before I had taken the unit for its o2 'inspection') the SD card suddenly 'disappeared'. Actually, it's shot; it isn't recognised by my XDAIIi, my work supervisor's XDAIIi, my wife's Mio168 or my computer's USB card reader. I researched this a little and found it a fairly common occurence but the only recommendation seems to be to format it. HELLO? How does one format something that no equipment recognises? Fools!
Actually, while googling the SD card problem I found people recommending the removal of o2 Active to cure TomTom lockups. o2 Tech-Supp were very helpful with this - instructing me how to hard reset and install 'corporate' using the 0506 password. This appears to have cured almost all TomTom problems although I need more than the old 128MB MM card I currently have for storage!
This also fixed the 'last call' bug I'd been experiencing.
Having found this marvellous forum, I set about finding info for the XDAIIi and promptly discovered that the wikki bears little specifically for it. I would update it but don't know enough yet!
I did read a post last night that pointed out to a user that the cradle charges the battery from just the USB port, and not requiring the AC supply so I decided to check it out. Sure enough, the battery is shown as 'charging' but after leaving it overnight, I find that the charge has actually dropped to 87% (still says 'charging', too) from the 95% I left it on.
Perhaps I have a faulty cradle.
It also seems a little odd to me that I can use mp3s for ringtones but can only use wav files for the alarm!
Is there a way to stop the wi-fi 'do you want to connect' popup appearing when TomTom is running other than disabling wi-fi before running it? It's a right pain having TT freeze until I get rid ot the popup.
One other little thing - anyone know how I can ensure that GPRS isn't going to be used for web surfing? I don't want it to be activated accidentally and certainly don't want to go surfing on it for an hour thinking I'm using wi-fi!
Don't get me wrong - overall I'm still happy with the XDAIIi (look -> ) but there's just a few doubts as to whether I went the right way creeping in.

Hi there, im pretty much a "new" user of the XDA 2i aswell but have learnt alot from using this forum.
I have almost the same setup as you now as far as the "corporate" install, TomTom5 etc etc .... but i have updated the ROM on mine to the latest Imate version, which you can find in one of these forums , its called PDA 2K ROM streight from I-MATE or something along them lines.
I would recommend that you update also as it fixed a few problems was having with lockups, but make sure to do alot of research before you attempt it cos you dont want to knacker it up
Anyway .... my cradle charges fine just using the USB (no AC adapter)
Passord thing .... this has came up before , it for some reason displays the digits when the numbers 08 are first , i seem to remember it being something to do with emergancy calling features, although i didnt think that they started with "08" but there ya go
GPRS ... will only activate when you cannot get a Wireless signal, the hirachy is WiFi then GPRS, but to be on the safe side i removed all the setting configurations for the GPRS so it can never connect, i never use it anyway.
Im not sure about the "Do you want to connect" popup you get when running TomTom as it doesnt happen to me , perhaps you have wireless enabled all the time, id tun it off to save your batteries anyway.
well .... i think ive covered a few of the things your asking as good as i can, best of luck with it

Thanks for the reply, Danny.
I haven't had any TomTom problems since 'going corporate' so I'll wait and see how it goes before trying another ROM - taking warranty into consideration too.
Mind you, I haven't received any calls or texts while running TT either so all may not be as it seems.
Hmm. I'm plugged into a 4-port USB hub that came with an external power supply I don't use, so I wonder if that makes a difference. I'll have to pull out the base unit and plug the cradle in there to check charging on that.
I've double checked that I have no settings for GPRS so unless o2 'push' them to me I should be OK.
Yes, I do have wi-fi on all the time and the battery still lasts all the work day with a little usage when time permits. My cradle/GPS receiver charges the pda when it's in there on the way to/from work, so I don't really have to worry about that.
I'd just like to not be bothered by the connection dialogue box rather than have to turn off wi-fi for navigation purposes... have you seen how many networks are open out there? Not just the city centre ones, there are loads of not-very-secure company and household networks that can be connected to and utilised. Free broadband internet - almost makes you want to get a laptop!

the computer to which the cradle is connected via USB must be turned ON, or else there will be no current passing through the cable. Thus, no charging the PDA. The Ipods have the same "handycap". You can always use the AC power adapter...

Karbono said:
the computer to which the cradle is connected via USB must be turned ON, or else there will be no current passing through the cable. Thus, no charging the PDA. The Ipods have the same "handycap". You can always use the AC power adapter...
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Quite true, but my charging test was performed while the computer was on and defragmenting my 5 partitions.
Actually, my Soltek motherboard has 'hot' USB ports at the rear that still supply a little 'juice' when the power is off - my USB hub, BT dongle and Intellimouse 4 stay alight when the main machine is off, although I've not bothered to check exactly how much voltage is supplied.

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Try!No incoming calls&gprs data when in docking station!

Hi all, after months of try&error and buying 2 (TWO!) MDAs (Wizard & Charmer) i finally found out WHY sometimes GPRS data flow stops and no incoming calls will be put throught (they land on mailbox):
It's the docking stations! Just let me explain that a little bit more: Both Wizard & Charmer will be delivered without any docking stations, so I bought two different on Ebay + one active holder from Brodit for my car.
After I put Wizard or Charmer in one of the docking station it's necessary to call 2 or 3 times until the call gets through, also in the car (Brodit), and - GPRS data flow, that means even I'm connected (2 GPRS arrows are there), stops after 2 or 3 minutes. I see that with a network monitor called Phatnet (very recommended!)
So now comes the real scurillic thing: If I use the original AC adapter from T-Mobile nothing of the above happens... GPRS data packets flow hours and hours without any breaks, and calls come through.
The docking station definitly loads the devices, but it takes longer. So here's my conclusion: The AC Adapters and the car adapter give to little current for the radio part in the devices - sounds strange, but I have no other ideas.
So now what? Try yourself please, anyone who owns Wizard or Charmer and some other AC adapters than the originals should tell here - it's easy, just put the devices in, surf a little bit for just a couple of minutes and you'll see surfing stops. It's not dependend of the loading status (orange or green led).
I tried different Rom updates, different devices and now it seems that power is the reason, really annoying. Tell us your experience!
Yours B.
Here are the links of the 2 docking stations:
http://cgi.ebay.de/Dockingstation-f...861020033QQcategoryZ15396QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.de/Dockingstation-f...ryZ70769QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Must be a Charmer/Wizard flaw as my Magician doesn't act at all like this.
What I really don't understand is how you can even make a phonecall or use gprs when there's no original AC-adapter connected to your device, when a car charger doesn't give you enough current to have the radio operating as it should be. So your devices must be pretty crap then lol.
I think the cradle's are somehow interfering with the radio. The current can't be the main issue, otherwise the device wouldn't be functioning on a battery only. Guess it comes in a strange state, I noticed that my magician doesn't hold a gprs connection while Act.Sync is running, maybe this is something simular.
But it sure must be a pain in the rear bottom I agree to that.
M
Well there's some additional information I researched:
When connecting the device to the original AC adaptor it does NOT switch on the display, when connecting to the cradle it does. So the pinout of the connector must be different and Wizard/Charmer maybe (half way) believes that it has been connected to USB of a PC, but not in a defined state. Remember that my docking station IS NOT connected to a PC, it's only there for power.
Somebody maybe knows the pinout of the delivered USB sync cable and the AC adaptor?
Yours B.

BlueTooth Internet

Yo!
I have a PC at home connected to the interent & I have a BlueTooth USB Dongle plugged in.
Simply (yeah, right) how do you configure my home WinXP Pro PC & my Xda Exec such that the Xda Exec can browse the internet using the home PC internet connection over a BlueTooth connection????
I have spent all day trawling forums & internet, but any reference made to Windows operating system does not seem to relate to the one I have installed??!?!?!?!???!
HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP!
Andy
(PS I have manage to create a 'partnership' between the two, but that's all.
Won't ActiveSync 4.1 do this now? I've got my XDA Mini S connected to my laptop via BT right now and I can get Exhange email and surf the Web without WiFi or GPRS as my Laptop is connected to the internet
No special settings required...
However, makesure you pair your phone from your PC for BT Active Sync support... if you already have a pairing delete it on both the PC and Phone and repair etc etc...
However, makesure you pair your phone from your PC for BT Active Sync support... if you already have a pairing delete it on both the PC and Phone and repair etc etc...
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erm, Okeey dokee, piggy in a pokey.....
Exactly, in words of less than one syllable, how do you do that.
Assume nothing, as I know nothing.
I have been pulling my hair out & shouting at everything ALL day trying to get this sodding thing to work... BT ActiveSync support <- what is that??? Is this the golden goose I'm missing?!?!?!?!
So far I have managed to, but have now lost a very unstable internet connection (that GPRS kept constantly trying to overrule) I've been messing with COM ??? for the last 2 hours (my latest discovery) but (for whatever utterly unknown reason) I simply CANNOT get my PC COM port to be in an acceptable range (i.e. COM<=9)
ARRRRRGGGGGG!!!!
You are one LUCKY little bunny if this 'just worked' for you!!!!
well done :wink:
Andy
1. Download and install ActiveSync 4.1 from Microsoft http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/downloads/activesync41.mspx
Follow the instructions you will need your sync cable
While you do that I'll erm go write it all down
Hey thanks m8.
Jolly decent of you ol' bean.
BTW ActiveSync 4.1 slapped in already...
BRB
Andy
OK went to write the stuff and thought I'd unpair mine need to make sure I can get the connection back seems that somthing is remembering pairing somwhere.
Gimmie a few more mins think I'll need to reset phone to get this to work TBH...
Oh and you should not need any COM ports defined in Local or Client as Active Sync creates one...
Yes hard reset fixed the problem.... so you will need to do that too I guess as it seems not to work as somehow the AS link to the phone gets ignored...
Sec should upload a Word Doc.
Cool
I am learning >many< things about BlueTooth USB Dongles.
All of them dodgy to say the least.
One biggy is removing the Microsoft driver from the PC (& issues concering COM port assignment). Once this is done, install the correct driver. THEN DO NOT USE THE DONGLE IN ANOTHER USB PORT.
Poor, poor, POOR programming.....
Andy
Here it is... A bit ragged but what you expect!
Now I gotta fix all my phone back hehe
The key thing is the Phone should show ActiveSync as a service on the PC if it only shows Serial Port it ain't going to work.
Thank you VERY much.
I'll have a look & get back for feedback.
Regards,
Andy
BTW,
This'll make you laugh.
BT.... For about an hour there I was in 'phone mode' (and why not). aka British Telecom (my excuse: I've been trying to unravel anachronims ALL day!)
Then it finally dawned on me. BT. BLUE TOOTH
Dozey sod!
Andy
ROFL
Well I got my phone back up and did sommit similar as I had reasigned I.E. button to OK and was wondering why I.E. kept popping up lots
[email protected]
Their marketing guys must have had a field day with this device.
(The stuff I design has only 9 buttons on it and Jesus, don't even mention marketing to my team - they all get nervous ticks).
Andy
Dunno how you cope with the weight of the Exec but tis nice
Look at my sig.
For the price I got it for I couldn't give a flying fart how much it weighs...
Anyway the mobile phone part of it is just for kicks (I hide myself on the very rare occasions that someone rings me when I'm out because I feel an utter pratt with that lump glued to the side of my nut. Note to self: must get a headset... hold on these are BlueTooth devices as well... arrrrrgh).
For the 2 weeks I've had it since fixing it, mainly used it for:
Showing off.
Mentioning how much I paid for it, and then showing off some more.
Playing 'Age of Empires', Quake, Doom, Tetris, Worms on the Bog. (did I say 'worms'??? )
Fiddling with 'WiFi' connections to the internet (at Work)
Fiddling with 'BlueTooth' Connections to the internet (at Home)
Working out why someone has decided the red 'X' now does NOT shut a program down.
And ultimately used it as a thing to be shouted at.
Weight?? It's lighter than my ZX Spectrum - Kids of today!
Andy

Activesync (Dis)connection Problem

I have a (dis)connection problem with my XDAIIi which only started about three weeks ago.
It may (or may not) be related to a problem that I had when I was using my XDAIIi in the car as a sat nav.
As is my custom, I tucked the XDA into the glove compartment (with car charger attached) when I popped into a shop. When I got back in the car, the XDA was part of the way through a hard reboot and the car charger was not working. Since about that time, it has only been possible to connect to the device (via the USB port) occasionally. (I have never had any success with IR, Wireless or Bluetooth – but have never really tried before.)
My company laptop has slightly more success at connecting to the XDA than my personal laptop has – both of which worked perfectly before. I have a USB sync cable as well as the standard cradle but there is no difference in the connection performance. I have tried loading various versions of Activesync but without any success. The problem is basically as follows:
Mostly, when I attach the device to either laptop, it will connect normally (if a bit slow) and get part way through the synchronisation process before disconnecting. Typically, the connection lasts less than a minute but it can be for quite a long time – e.g. long enough to load TomTom Navigator 5. Rarely does the connection last more than a few minutes though and never more than about 10 minutes.
My company laptop has a firewall as does my personal one – but they are different. I have disabled my personal laptop (Windows) firewall as well as the virus scanner etc. but it has no effect. I have tried hard reboots several times but am reluctant to do any more as loading software back again is a painful (hit and miss) process. My personal laptop has various anti-spyware packages which I run regularly as well as CCleaner. My company laptop has none of these though.
If anyone has any ideas what is wrong or (preferably) what I might do, I would be extremely grateful. My personal hunch is that I may have caused some damage to the device when I put it into the glove compartment. Maybe the charger cable was a bit tight and it damaged the connector. Or the car charger may have produced a voltage/current spike somehow and I have damaged some internal circuitry. (Quite why the XDA connects at all though is a bit of a mystery.)
PS I don’t want to buy a brand new TyTN2 (much!) but if I have to …… Oh well!

Athena/Advantage/Ameo as off board Modem?

Is this device able to connect as a modem to a laptop like some other devices? I have the Advantage 7501. If it is possible, how is it acheived? Is there a hack or hardware adapter required?
Start/Program/Internet Sharing.
Choose whether you want to link Athena with your PC with bluetooth or USB cable. Then click connect.
Done!
A better option is wmWifiRouter. It has the benefit of wireless like bluetooth so you can leave the Athena in your laptop bag, but you can use WPA security unlike bluetooth (make sure your password is longer than 10 characters and is fairly random). It also allows you to share your connection with multiple computers at once, unlike bluetooth. New versions have been coming out every month or two, I just noticed a new one was released 10 days ago...
http://www.jongma.org/WMWifiRouter/
eaglesteve said:
Start/Program/Internet Sharing.
Choose whether you want to link Athena with your PC with bluetooth or USB cable. Then click connect.
Done!
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Thanks. I'll try this.
techntrek said:
A better option is wmWifiRouter. It has the benefit of wireless like bluetooth so you can leave the Athena in your laptop bag, but you can use WPA security unlike bluetooth (make sure your password is longer than 10 characters and is fairly random). It also allows you to share your connection with multiple computers at once, unlike bluetooth. New versions have been coming out every month or two, I just noticed a new one was released 10 days ago...
http://www.jongma.org/WMWifiRouter/
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Thanks. I'll look into this too.
techntrek said:
A better option is wmWifiRouter. It has the benefit of wireless like bluetooth so you can leave the Athena in your laptop bag, but you can use WPA security unlike bluetooth (make sure your password is longer than 10 characters and is fairly random). It also allows you to share your connection with multiple computers at once, unlike bluetooth. New versions have been coming out every month or two, I just noticed a new one was released 10 days ago...
http://www.jongma.org/WMWifiRouter/
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Yes, indeed it is better from security viewpoint as well as the fact that more than one can be connected.
I'm using version 0.91 and it works perfectly.
Make sure your WIFI is turned on before installation. It works like a charm!
eaglesteve said:
Yes, indeed it is better from security viewpoint as well as the fact that more than one can be connected.
I'm using version 0.91 and it works perfectly.
Make sure your WIFI is turned on before installation. It works like a charm!
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Be aware that overuse of this application makes your battery VERY hot. It seems to make the device work overtime, and I experienced a noticeable decrease in the battery life of my Hermes after using this for a few weeks every day. So much that I had to buy a new battery! It made my Athena very hot too but I started SIM swapping eventually as I'm not so precious about my Hermes.
It is a cool application, might be sensible not to overuse it though.
leoni1980 said:
Be aware that overuse of this application makes your battery VERY hot. It seems to make the device work overtime, and I experienced a noticeable decrease in the battery life of my Hermes after using this for a few weeks every day. So much that I had to buy a new battery! It made my Athena very hot too but I started SIM swapping eventually as I'm not so precious about my Hermes.
It is a cool application, might be sensible not to overuse it though.
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Thanks for the warning. I haven't noticed the overheating yet, but would certainly be aware.
I turned off my Athena after connecting. Wonder if this would have made any difference.
It would only get warm cos it's using lots of power ! any software that uses lots of power will make it run warm, even a lengthy phone call.
I had wmWifiRouter running for about 30 minutes straight over the weekend, while I browsed the net on my desktop (connected to the Athena via wifi). I ran it for 15 minutes with the screen on, and then 15 more minutes with the screen off and in neither case did anything on the Athena feel warm, or hot.
I've been running wifi router on my tytn and connecting with my advantage. The TyTn has always gotten warm when using wifi but the advantage shows no signs of heat using wifi. Running wifi or wifi router on my TyTn really uses lots of battery. An internet sharing over bt or bt dun would be a better solution when it comes to battery life.
Internet sharing over usb uses a lot less battery than Bluetooth or wifrouter and is also much faster than bluetooth.
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Internet sharing over usb uses a lot less battery than Bluetooth or wifrouter and is also much faster than bluetooth.
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I thought that was the case but was'nt sure if that was just my own feeling. Glad that someone else confirm my suspicion. However, the usb wire could be a hassle depending on the situation. In 99.99% of the cases, we are probably the only person who needs to connect to it, so internet sharing is not a disadvantage. Security is the only issue left, but is this different from using the BT headset?
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Internet sharing over usb uses a lot less battery than Bluetooth or wifrouter and is also much faster than bluetooth.
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Plus if you use internet sharing over USB, then it charges the athena battery while surfing the net at over twice or three times as fast as Bluetooth.
Don't believe me, try internet sharing and run one of the mobile speed tests, connect via bluetooth, check speed, and then try wifirouter. What are your results...Bluetooth is so much slower compared to the other two choices....
wmWifiRouter on the Ameo?
Has anyone installed and used "wmWifiRouter" (http://www.jongma.org/WMWifiRouter/ - down at the time of writing) on their UK T-Mobile Ameo?
i.e. Does it work for a Windows Mobile 5 device?

Serious problem.... NO ACTIVESYNC

I just tried to plug my phone in today, and activesync does not detect my phone when I plug it in.... Activesync usually works great for me.
So far I have tried:
1. soft reset phone
2. attach wife's phone - still no sync (this leads me to believe it is a problem on the PC - not the phone)
3. remove and re-install activesync on the pc
4. restart the PC
The USB connection is definitely being made - as when I plug the phone into the computer it starts charging the battery..... but no activesync session is initiated, so I can't modify any files on my phone....
any other ideas?
Hmm that is bad... Well what do you use activesync for? Transferring files or for internet sharing?
All I can think of is maybe a virus? Run avast! virus cleaner. It's the stand alone virus cleaner not the actual anti-virus program. It won't install anything on your pc and it's actually one of the best. Just go to Avast.com.
If you use activesync for internet sharing you actually don't need it . I don't use it for internet sharing. You just need the drivers. I use wm5torage to put stuff of my memory card.
Hope something I wrote helped.
Uncheck start>settings>connections>usb to pc.
never mind........ I guess my data cable just went retarded.
I bought a new USB>MiniUSB cable today and activesync loads right up.
strange, since the original cable does not look like it is damaged at all, and can still charge the phone.
Oh well - all's well that ends well. lol.
zaep0b said:
never mind........ I guess my data cable just went retarded.
I bought a new USB>MiniUSB cable today and activesync loads right up.
strange, since the original cable does not look like it is damaged at all, and can still charge the phone.
Oh well - all's well that ends well. lol.
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i bit late to the party,me ,but this is a comon problem in certain devices,so far i changed 4 cables with my hermes.
oh well. good to know anyway.
I work as a manager at a retail store, and found a couple of PSP data cables (the exact same cable that HTC phones use, surprisingly) that were in the back room which clearanced to 10 cents.... I bought them out - so I have a TON of backup cables in case I ever need them. LOL
the problem is not the usb cable per say but the usb hub in the device.
the new htc hub since the Hermes have a low threshold for wear, the pins that is, so when your usb cable gets used for awhile it wears out a bit also,this gets to a certain stage the the pins no longer touch each other therefore this problem occurs .
i have noticed that my wife 3 year old wizard has a standard usb plug and we never had any problem with any cables,even using the cables that do not work in the hemes that started showing that problem after 6 months of usage.
yeah - well maybe I'll be lucky and the cables I bought (from the PSP) don't have this wear and tear problem

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