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Call me impatient.... but I haven't heard any further details regarding the release of the Universal replacement.
A lot of the sites that reported the specs of the Omni were claiming that it was going to be released in early 2007... Now its almost April.
Has anyone else heard anything more concrete? Maybe this was just a false rumour?
Alternatively, I think if they release it too late and it isnt that "special" it will probably have a hard time competing with the newer VGA devices coming out by imate and the Toshiba G900.
Any comments???
I agree I want to know too !
I just hope there is a successor !
Got this feeling the Athena (HTC Advantage x7500) may be the replacement.
Well over a month later now. Something new somewhere already?
specs for OMNI are mostly rumours on the net & there is no hard evidence, but then again XDA Flame which expected 2 B release on Feb 2007...remains unknown..
p/s: it's not a Uni replacement though..Uni still remains... yeah...!
Well I was just wondering if it was still in the works. The rumours were so specific and the HTC Advanced and HTC Shift don't seem to fit the bill.
Ah well I'm still a couple of months away from contract renewal so I can wait I guess
I gave up waiting and got myself another universal as an upgrade.
My original universal had developed a fault.
The good thing is the Unis have really come down in price. I mean its still got fantastic specs, although only having UMTS as opposed to HSDPA is slightly date, but hey UMTS is still good. Loving the VGA screen on my Uni
I never quite understood the price of these machines. T-Mobile was selling them for 450 euro while the others were asking close to 1000 euro for their version.
I looked at the Ameo the other day and it does look great. The big screen is amazing. But then the whole thing is big and I just want the keyboard really attached.
I want a new and slightly improved Universal (more memory, faster, GPS, screen on outside)
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I want a new and slightly improved Universal (more memory, faster, GPS, screen on outside)
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I feel the same way. If I am to replace my Universal with something as big as this, the keyboard should be built-in in CLAMSHELL design.
Yeah those are all very reasonable upgrades that would make the Uni better. Add HSDPA/HSUPA and a slightly thinner profile and it would be a great upgrade.
Does anyone know any sales figures for HTC devices per model?
With the popularity of the Hermes, is it even worth their while to concentrate on this type of device when the slide out Hermes style is so much more popular?
The more advanced the device is, obviously the more R&D it requires hence costing more to make. Maybe they didnt make enough profit from the Universal.
Maybe the Omni was just vapourware talk to "test the waters"???
The biggest thing holding back the Universal from higher sales I would have to say is its least liked "feature"... the huge size of it. This would again cost more in R&D to try and make it a smaller size.
Not talking against or dissing the Universal as I would have one of these over a Hermes anyday, but may just be food for thought.
Any thoughts, objections or agreements?
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Well seeing how they are coming out with the Athena and the Shift they must see the market for bigger devices with phone capabilities.
The phones in thich niche cost a fortune and there is almost no competition. So they probably have quite a nice margin on them.
Yeah I think it was just the cost that put people off the Universal. It was way too expensive at launch, even if it was the top dog with all the features.
Acording to engadet mobile sony has signed a deal with foxconn to produce there android phone(s).
Could they also being using them for there next wm phone.
it would make sense to do a deal for mutiple phones with one company, as there could be discounts and stuff by doing muliple deals and we already know SE dont want to use htc anymore.
might be promising, they make handsets for nokia and a couple others I think..
does look like they're doing the x2 Winmo as well
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20081223PB200.html
shame, i wanted asus to make it.
does anyone know anything about this company? are they any good? what have they made before?
What would you like to know? Foxconn has been used a lot by Apple in the past. I believe they made most of the iPods and such. I believe they have been responsible for some iPaqs bij Compaq/HP.
Guess they are qualified enough to produce a Winmo phone. No worries about that.
To be honest, I'm a bit gutted they moved away from HTC. They seem like a good company. Might have to make my next phone a proper HTC is this is true, and the new X2 isn't up the scratch.
Just looked on wikipedia, did not notice how big they are and how many products they have helped to produce. they make htc look like small fry (look at there revenue/net income compared with htc).
For those like me who dont know about the company look on wiki, the helped produce the iphone, ipod, mac mini, mac air, macbook pro, ipod nano, ps2, ps3, wii, xbox 360, amazon kindle, phones from motorola, nokia and SE.
As well as this they make pc parts and motherboards for big companys like asus, dell, hp and sony. heatsinks for amd and intel branded motherboards.
this is a big company that makes very big products but are not very well known as they dont have there own branding on the product and parts they make.
it was rumered that mobinova were to make the x2 a while back
if foxconn\ (mobinova) are making the android phone that does not mean theyll do the wm one though.
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it was rumered that mobinova were to make the x2 a while back
if foxconn\ (mobinova) are making the android phone that does not mean theyll do the wm one though.
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i think (but may be wrong) that mobinova is part on foxconn (a company owned by foxconn and as such meaning foxconn is making it, if u know what i mean. think retro studios make the metriod prime games but are owned by nintendo so its a nintendo game).
it only says android phones at the mo but looking at there experiance in with ipaqs and phones like iphone, sony will probally use them to make there next x phone (which i think will be wm not android),
If HTC do not make the X2, I'm buying Touch Pro 2 or 3.
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If HTC do not make the X2, I'm buying Touch Pro 2 or 3.
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AGREED.
The main reason I would only ever buy HTC is this forum.
Who else would agree with this statement?
We should set up a poll methinks.
I wonder if HTC know about this forum, and if they knew just how many people buy HTC because of this forum, I think they would sponsor it, if only in a small way, monetarelly speakng that is
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If HTC do not make the X2, I'm buying Touch Pro 2 or 3.
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why buy a touch pro 2 when its the same spec as your x1???
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Just looked on wikipedia, did not notice how big they are and how many products they have helped to produce. they make htc look like small fry (look at there revenue/net income compared with htc).
For those like me who dont know about the company look on wiki, the helped produce the iphone, ipod, mac mini, mac air, macbook pro, ipod nano, ps2, ps3, wii, xbox 360, amazon kindle, phones from motorola, nokia and SE.
As well as this they make pc parts and motherboards for big companys like asus, dell, hp and sony. heatsinks for amd and intel branded motherboards.
this is a big company that makes very big products but are not very well known as they dont have there own branding on the product and parts they make.
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Nice work. I'll have to have a little wiki look myself.
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If HTC do not make the X2, I'm buying Touch Pro 2 or 3.
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If HTC does not make X2, it's even better for X2.
http://business.financialpost.com/2011/02/15/rim-refused-nokia-software-partnership-report/
Nokia Corp. recently held discussions with Waterloo, Ontario-based Research in Motion Ltd. over the possibility of a software partnership. Had the deal gone through, it would have seen Nokia smartphones running RIM’s BlackBerry operating system.
OMG! those EGO maniacs at BlackBerry should be fired
They BB think they are too good for Nokia? they better think again, they are falling off the top fast.
if Nokia were running BB OS they would have been the perfect marriage.
I'd have picked up a device in a heart beep
BB & Nokia were made for each other, i can't believe those guys at BB didn't accept the partnership
no wonder there were those news articles about Nokia jumping from the burning pan to the fire (microsoft) LOL
Lol yep, blackberry could have accessed some decent handsets. It is actually going to be quite interesting to see what happens to Nokia. I seriously cannot see them dominating ever again...what they got that nobody can match?
So Nokia is trying to partner up with every mobile software company that needs help other than iOS and Android. Interesting.
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So Nokia is trying to partner up with every mobile software company that needs help other than iOS and Android. Interesting.
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Nokia actually was talking to google too. It just did not get them anywhere.
Regarding RIM I actually don't know why would they want to do anything with Nokia.
They already have very decent hardware of their own, they don't really need symbian or any other Nokia OS, so what would they gain?
As a side note: three years ago Nokia closed their factory and R&D center in Germany and moved to Romania. Then came RIM and hired many of those engineers Nokia just put on the street. Those ~100 engineers are not much in the grand scale of things, compared to the headcount, but nonetheless. For example, BB Bold 9700 was the first BB model designed there.
Rim has antiquated screens on every phone. It's like 8-bit cell phones. If this happened I would grab one right away. So sad.
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Lol yep, blackberry could have accessed some decent handsets. It is actually going to be quite interesting to see what happens to Nokia. I seriously cannot see them dominating ever again...what they got that nobody can match?
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Cameras. Well, it's not so much that nobody can, just that they haven't.
Nokia: Hey RIM, I have that cool cooperation agreement with CarlZeiss and I know how to buy some Amoleds from my korean sources. Wanna marry me?
RIM: I don't want your stinkin' cameras and I do shopping myself! I am a serious businessman and cameras are for kids!
I hate the screens on every single BB phone that has been released in 2010 so far. It feels like I'm going back in time everytime I look at the screen.
Defiant Blackberry boss dismisses Nokia jibe
in a related news http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12468591
this is funny, how BB is getting all riled up, now that everyone is saying their doom by not accepting Nokia
LOL
BB still think they are in the top
HP announced they are exiting the consumer biz and dumping their tablet,and smart phones claiming tablet was not successful.
I really hope WebOS gets picked up. It was starting to look promising.
Didn't the tablet just come out like a month ago? It must have really bombed.
I am not a shareholder but if I was, I would be really mad that some idiot paid 1.2 billion for something to discard it...
They can pay all the lip service they want. It is dead.
I feel sorry for any developer that has wasted time buidig apps for WebOS.
the touchpad actually seemed really cool. if i didnt get my transformer, that is the one i probably would have picked. it was smooth, and intuitive. the only thing that held it back was the small amount of apps that it had.
I'll be picking up a Touchpad in the fire sale, at a sub-$200 price it should be worth it.
It's gonna be a lot more expensive because it will become a rarity! And it's gonna be a collectible since it won't be made anymore, right? No fire sale for you! More like a water auction. ..
Hah. HAHahhaha.
I was thinking the same . Maybe be on the lookout for a dirt cheap tablet. It plays 1080 right
Nvm 720
HP's PC, tablet and phone businesses would really be in better hands if they were in any hands but HP's. HP products are generic and undistinguished. Maybe a spinoff could be a Lenovo starting with a lot more product depth. But they'll probably just part it out.
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I feel sorry for any developer that has wasted time buidig apps for WebOS.
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I alsmost did. I created an account yesterday to start learning webOS and several hours later... this. At least I didn't waste any more time.
no. WebOS needs to be shoved in a room with Android and let them do sweet love. and come up with WandroidOS...
WebOS was pretty slick with its home screen and cards. now that i think about it. android should do that. have cards that show the preview of what processes are running and just slide up to kill selected processes i know ATK, but this would be better... at least i would think so...
Frankly, I'd just open source it.
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I am not a shareholder but if I was, I would be really mad that some idiot paid 1.2 billion for something to discard it...
They can pay all the lip service they want. It is dead.
I feel sorry for any developer that has wasted time buidig apps for WebOS.
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Well if Google's recent purchase says anything they got a deal. They got all of palm's patents. Palm was a frontrunner in the touch screen PDA, gotta count for something.
I don't think WebOS is being canned all together, HP are just stopping their development on it, "discontinuing operations" as they say. I read a few articles like: http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/41592/hp-ditches-webos-devices-pre-touchpad
In this is states they'll explore options to optimise the value of WebOS which basically is going to be them selling/licensing it on and not keeping it exclusive to HP devices anymore. Personally this would be far better as HP want to focus on their B2B rather than B2C and obviously don't see it as profitable which it isn't as they'd need serious development to keep up with Apple. Opensource as mentioned or licensing it to manufacturers is the only way it's going anywhere. Who knows this could pick up where Meego never went. Only a few months ago there were whispers from inside HP suggesting contact had been made between Samsung and HP about use of WebOS in Samsung devices, WebOS is definitely not dead but instead this could be exactly what it needs.
On another note HP are also looking to pass off their Personal Systems Group, i.e. Desktop and Laptop business to focus on B2B. This could become the next Lenovo - IBM buyout, wonder who will take that on.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/18/hp-will-discontinue-operations-for-webos-devices/
I think what is more interesting is HP "spinning off" their PC business. Possibly dumping PCs by HP is huge, and really shows the impact of mobile devices like droid and ios. Clearly, the HP strategy to roll-your-own OS on mobile failed but Google and Apple have been great successes.
My TF from ASUS is very useful, more than I expected. So, I am interested to see who remains in a couple years.The elephant in the room is China.
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I think what is more interesting is HP "spinning off" their PC business. Possibly dumping PCs by HP is huge, and really shows the impact of mobile devices like droid and ios.
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+1
This is really surprising since HP is the #1 PC maker. I guess they are following IBM. Maybe Lenovo can take over HPs business.
Where is the value in WebOS
I think what we will see is that HP will auction off the patent portfolio that they acquired with the purchase of Palm. When one considers the rush from Apple, MS, and Google to buy up whatever hits the open market, it's quite possible that HP can see that the patents have more value then the long, slow slug-fest that exists in the marketplace for Tablet's and Phones. Let's not forget that Nortel's patents sold for $4.5 Billion, and Google's purchase of Motorola Mobility for $12.5 Billion
Steve Jobs is like: "All your base are belong to us!"
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I don't think WebOS is being canned all together, HP are just stopping their development on it, "discontinuing operations" as they say. I read a few articles like: http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/41592/hp-ditches-webos-devices-pre-touchpad
In this is states they'll explore options to optimise the value of WebOS which basically is going to be them selling/licensing it on and not keeping it exclusive to HP devices anymore.
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I see that as simple PR spin, trying to claim a negative is a positive. They aren't just going to flat-out say "we wasted a fortune bringing a product to market, only to ditch it a month later."
Honestly, discontinuing the Touchpad just a month after it went on sale, and leaving customers with what's basically expensive, unsupported bricks which nobody wants to develop for has already generated a storm of negative publicity for HP and WebOS, and will engender a lot of ill will with customers, along with the poor word-of-mouth that will bring.
What manufacturer would want to release a WebOS device when it was already struggling to get any visibility whatsoever against Android and iOS, even before a large portion of the remaining folks that were aware of it were suddenly given a reason to despise it?
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Well, MS is not yet a manufacturer, but still....
Hi all,
I'm sort of looking to buy an Xperia X2. Ideally an X2a. What price would you guys consider fair to pay for one these days ?
Also, where do you find the X2a ? No luck so far.
I just bought an X1a for $95 and I'm thinking the X1 is better than the X2. However, I sort of wanna have one of each. I actually dislike the current line of xperias (except X1 and X2), though the Arc looks sexy and the Pro interesting. And Im talking about general design, as I do like android.
Hi.
If I would be you, then I wouldn't pay a €ent for this phone. The phone is simply useless... If you are a developer and have a clue on how to hack windows phones, then this Could be a nice project!
Thanks for the advice hertell. I've already ordered one off ebay so we'll see how bad it is once it gets here. I like the phone physical design. Also, compared to the X1 (which I liked a lot) the keyboard looks very comfortable and the screen its got a flush screen.
I'm quite aware of the X2's shortcomings, so with that in mind, I think I'll be fine. Though it's a shame really, the fact that SE decided to include the same old board they used on the X1 on the X2, if only the X2 would've been released later on with a snapdragon, that would've been great.