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Himalaya Linux - the usual question

hi guys
first off...sorry for posting the usual question...its been done to death
i have been out of the xda-dev site for a while and have lost track of things.
i always hoped himalaya linux would get done.... but from what i can see its still lacking the key components (eg phone support under gpe).
i am a uni student on placement at a company that actually writes mobile phone radio stacks...so i am learning embedded c and about the interesting side of the hardware/software interface.... now i want to actually do something about this lack of a fully usable phone.
my questions go as follows..
1> what is the current stage of himalaya linux ... i have a feeling the wiki's are probably out of date
2> is anyone actually still working on it
3> i know only a little about haret i get the idea it is also able to watch hardware (and isnt just a bootloader)...where can i find docs about using it to do this.
4> was jtag ever found on the himalaya
5> of the code in the tree what files are specific to the himalaya
i have much to learn on writing drivers etc for linux...and alot to learn about embedded c, reverse engineering etc....ok so i have a hell of a lot to learn....but i'm willing to try! (i also have 3 himalayas (1 has a bust screen) so plenty of tinkering can be done)
any other tidbits of information would also be appreciated
i think my basic goal would be the phone working.
after that get the other little bits and pieces
get the backpack cf working
get sdio and wireless working.
but these are the kind of goals that will take a long time so we'll see
i'd also love to work on the UI one day.. GPE and OPIE just dont toot my horn enough yet.
thanks
Tim

tim_programmer said:
1> what is the current stage of himalaya linux ... i have a feeling the wiki's are probably out of date
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It is out of date, but some parts are in a good shape.
2> is anyone actually still working on it
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Yes, because it has many common hardware and features with blueangel.
The kernel source is not being fixed, because it is decided to make blueangel
work first, and then reuse and adapt the cleaned code for himalaya.
3> i know only a little about haret i get the idea it is also able to watch hardware (and isnt just a bootloader)...where can i find docs about using it to do this.
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There are no "real" docs, only the source code. Many pxa27x functions are
implemented in haret, that either work or need minor changes for pxa26x.
4> was jtag ever found on the himalaya
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Yes, it's in wiki since 3 years or so
5> of the code in the tree what files are specific to the himalaya
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Blueangel is the authoritative source.
i think my basic goal would be the phone working.
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AFAIK, the phone works. But not with the latest 2.6.18-hh0 kernel.
This one has a lot of audio problems anyway, so it's not a major concern right now.
get the backpack cf working
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It's a bit challenging. The backpack is implemented in so-called ASIC5,
and there are no docs for it.
get sdio and wireless working.
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You mean SDIO wifi card ?
The SDIO host can be done relatively easy, but good luck with the wifi part
I know 2 of them, one with the TI acx100 (should be doable, because
there is linux acx100 driver), another needs the firmware upload in Motorola
SREC format, maybe even prism2.
And there is no free software SDIO for linux, you need to do some heavy RE.

Hello guys,
I have got Himalaya and I would like to help with implementation of some driver/software that is needed.
So I have got a few questions (some of them are similar to tim_programmer's, but I don't know if there are not outdated):
1. Where is the current branch with Himalaya specific code?
I have found:
- K2-6-12-hh2-xda0-ba0 (http://xanadux.cvs.sourceforge.net/xanadux/linux-2.6-xda/) and
- K2-6-21-hh20 (http://handhelds.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/linux/kernel26/)
Is himalaya specific code that is in K2-6-12-hh2-xda0-ba0 already included in K2-6-21-hh20?
Or what differences are between these branches?
2. Is somewhere available (SD card/NFS) image with kernel+initrd+GPE that is already running on Himalaya?
I have found:
- http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HimalayaLinuxBooting
It boots, but freezes during boot (after some changes in initrd it was possible to connect to the MDA with SSH via USB bus)
- http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HimalayaStandaloneGPEWithoutSD
Link to GPE is dead.
- http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Himalaya
There are screenshots of GPE so it should be working image somewhere.
3. Is it posssible to boot some BlueAngel "distribution" on Himalaya? (Possibly with a little changes?)
I have found:
- http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BlueAngelHowtoInstallLinux
Could it be used on Himalaya?
4. What is the current state of Himalaya support in Linux? What is already done and what not (or partially)?
I have found:
- http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HimalayaToDo
But there is not mentioned of what branch state it is.
5. Is any other bootloader than HaRET with that is possible to boot to Linux directly from SD card without Windows booting?
I have found:
- bootldr (http://xanadux.cvs.sourceforge.net/xanadux/linux-2.6-xda/bootldr/)
What is it?
A lot of information about Himalaya development is outdated and I don't know where to start :-( So any help is welcome
Thanks
Drasar

drasar said:
A lot of information about Himalaya development is outdated and I don't know where to start :-( So any help is welcome
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join #htc-linux at freenode.

Thanks for the link..just joined
btw when i start Haret on my Hima..the Thermometer goes up and the eyes go red..and then few lines comes up and thats it..i have tried every thing but cant get Linux to work
waiting for the New Linux Mobile

ather90 said:
btw when i start Haret on my Hima..the Thermometer goes up and the eyes go red..and then few lines comes up and thats it..i have tried every thing but cant get Linux to work
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What kernel have you tried? What was the last message on display? Some old HaRET versions (e.g. 0.3.6) have a problem with big kernel and boot fails on mounting root fs. So try the newest HaRET 0.5.1 that goes fine.

Thankxxx alot..u are rite i have 0.3.6
here is what i have :
haret-0.5.1.exe
initrd-2.6.12.gz
modules-2.6.12.tgz
zImage-2.6.12
are these all latest

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haret-0.5.1.exe
initrd-2.6.12.gz
modules-2.6.12.tgz
zImage-2.6.12
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For kernel 2.6.12, follow How To Compile 4 Himalaya instructions. It works, I have tried it yesterday ;-)

Thanks alot..thankfully i have Ubuntu so compling is no big
i will contact u for more assistance

Android on Himalaya??

Hi !
Based on this : http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Xanadux
What d u think, is it possible to have Android on our Himalaya device??
For those who doesnt know Android: http://code.google.com/android/index.html
As i do understand from the existing infos (google forums and the wiki above) if somebody smart enough may run NOW the Android on hima...
Am i right, am i wrong or am i just dreaming??

whoa!!! 10 million dollars?! that's fantastic!

I am waiting the good news from the master of HIMA

The official facts say:
Will ANDROID run on (insert phone here)? No.
Having said that, the OS is based on open source linux and the programs on java. The hima can already handle java apps, so that is one step in the right direction.
As for the os, linux on a hima might be a bit different (yes I am aware of the above mentioned hima linux os). It really all depends if they tailor the code to upcoming phones and backwards compatible or just for upcoming phones.
There facts section suggests the latter.

SymbianOS ?
Hi folks,
and what about SymbianOS ? I read an official statement from 2001 that Symbian and Intel concluded a cooperation agreement about the port of Symbian OS to StrongARM/XScale ...
The statement (german) :
http://www.tecchannel.de/news/themen/business/408982/
So long
HonkBB

does it only run java progs ?
judging from the speed diff between .net and java apps on wm
compared to native progs
that would be pretty slow

Researching Linux / Android ROM

Hello everybody,
I'm Johan, I live in the netherlands and i'm doing a study Informatica->Software Engineer. For a schoolproject we have to write an Android Application, though i don't have Android running on my telephone natively. So i searched the internet and found out that on the XDA forums its all about custom roms and that there are some Android Roms available. Unfortunately nothing for my MDA Compact/HTC Magician yet.
After asking arround a bit and searching all over the internet I figured nowone actually was bothering to further investigate Android for Magician.
So even though I have no idea if it will ever gonna work i'm gonna try to document as much as possible, and I hope others might join this topic and give some (usefull!!) feedback.
These websites I think are the best place to start, as I don't have any experience with ROMS or Android-OS its gonna be a challenging task but if you guys have any idea's, suggestions or websites where we can find more information feel free to post comments.
Startpage for Magician info:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Magician
HaRET bootloader working on magician:
http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET
http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET_20Documentation
Linux kernel for Magician:
http://www.htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Kernel#Kernel_for_intel_PXA_based_devices
Current status for linux kernel:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=MagicianProgress
http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Magician
Source code for Android:
http://source.android.com/
How to build Android OS:
http://source.android.com/porting/build_system.html
Compatiblity test suite:
http://source.android.com/compatibility/cts-intro.html
Any feedback is apreciated but please don't make it like "nice, when is it finished?" or "its impossible!"
as I have no idea about both of those 2 comments yet, I'll have to figure that out on the go.

It should be possible, someone already ported android to pxa270!
http://www.mask.org.tw/demo.htm

need to throw in a kernel guess i ll fetch yet another magician if that happens!!!

Hi header2k and evildarknight, thanks for the input.
My chinese/tw isn't to good, so i googled for android and pxa270 and found the following website, no idea if its any usefull (currently not at home, and my datalimit on my laptop dislikes downloading 1,3GB so i'll have to see what it is when i'm at my desktop again.)
http://www.ntut.edu.tw/~wyliang/

This looks interesting, if it comes to testing, you can contact me!

guess my chinese aint better
can't somebody anybody compile the android froyo kernel 2.6.32 for the magician which seems to be inline with ph5 dev???

I can't read chinese either, but i wanted to link to the pdf files:
http://www.mask.org.tw/data/Android_Porting_on_PXA270.pdf
http://www.mask.org.tw/data/BringUp_Android_on_PXA270.pdf (he used files from: svn co https://android-pxa270.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/android-pxa270 android-pxa270 )
He uploaded his work, too(with two mirrors, after 原始碼 (1.3GB) 下載位置: )
His machine:
[email protected] <-- identical with our magician
64MB RAM <-- identical with our magician
32mb ROM <-- Isn't important because he used an external usb-stick with chroot - We can use our sdcard and haret
Toppoly TD035STEB1 <-- identical wth our magician

Setting up Dev-Team
So this proves i guess its a done deal already
But is it then just theoretically/closed project? or did he indeed release his sourcecode as well? Sourceforge SVN shows there isn't anything deposited.
Anyway, still want to use this on my telephone, no idea what it takes to use/modify his work. Anyone interested in actually joining the project-team to make it run on a telephone? cause in the pics in the powerpoint i see some laptop and some mainboard and touchscreen but not a MDA Compact/HTC Magician yet.

There are copies of the project www.mask.org.tw/data/release-sourceforge.tgz and www.ntut.edu.tw/~wyliang/release-sourceforge.tgz. I don't have access to a linux box at this moment. Need to fix my PC before working on android.

Hello, This is Mask from http://www.mask.org.tw
Hello, I am Mask and I found there are some traffic from xda-developers to my website, so I come here and found there are some discussion of my work before in last year.
I had open an android project for pxa270 on sourceforge, but I didn't know how to upload my source code to sourceforge, so I put the source code on my website and mirror sites.
I hope maybe I could help you if you are interest in "android porting" and some related topics.

mask.chung said:
Hello, I am Mask and I found there are some traffic from xda-developers to my website, so I come here and found there are some discussion of my work before in last year.
I had open an android project for pxa270 on sourceforge, but I didn't know how to upload my source code to sourceforge, so I put the source code on my website and mirror sites.
I hope maybe I could help you if you are interest in "android porting" and some related topics.
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Yes, i have a question. Do you have a pxafb.c driver that works with android and the 2.6.32 kernels?

sorry about that I have no time to maintain my android project for pxa270, and now I have no plan to keep to maintain it, maybe we could upload whole developing source code including all svn reversion from begin to now, do you know how to import svn to sourceforge ? thanks a lot.

Here is some information on SVN and sourceforge.
http://haacked.com/archive/2006/02/22/QuickstartGuidetoSubversiononSourceForge.aspx some older howto from 2006 not sure if its up to date
http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/sourceforge/wiki/Subversion Official sourceforge howto.
http://tortoisesvn.net/ svn client

Kernel
Can someone test this kernel and see if it works as I do not have a magician to test it with.
If it does boot can you follow the steps posted here to see if android boots...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=658664

notime2d8 said:
Can someone test this kernel and see if it works as I do not have a magician to test it with.
If it does boot can you follow the steps posted here to see if android boots...
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I try to use kernel on Qtek S110(WM 6.1 by Cotulla), but get freeze screen on line "Jumping to Kernel...". When i use zImage from thread "Android 1.5 Cupcake on Universal" - again freeze on line "Jumping to Kernel...". Any ideas?
If you need to test something on Magician, contact me by ICQ 258113792.

Pavel A Safonov said:
I try to use kernel on Qtek S110(WM 6.1 by Cotulla), but get freeze screen on line "Jumping to Kernel...". When i use zImage from thread "Android 1.5 Cupcake on Universal" - again freeze on line "Jumping to Kernel...". Any ideas?
If you need to test something on Magician, contact me by ICQ 258113792.
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Make sure you have the radio turned on and not in airplane mode and wifi and bluetooth turned off. Also the correct machine type 875 in the startup text file or 855 if using the one for the universal.

i think set MTYPE 875 should be the right one

notime2d8 said:
Make sure you have the radio turned on and not in airplane mode and wifi and bluetooth turned off. Also the correct machine type 875 in the startup text file or 855 if using the one for the universal.
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When radio is turned on, Linux loading and stop on next lines:
1. With kernel for Magician
...
mmc0: new SD card at addess 41a8
mmcblk0: mmc0:41a8 SD01G 982 MiB
mmcvlk0: p1 p2 p3
Waiting for root device /dev/sdb2...
I wait more then 5 minutes, but nothing happens.
2. With kernel for Universal
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ds1wm: ds1wm: reset failed
Device vibrate all time and after last line turn off display.

Pavel A Safonov said:
When radio is turned on, Linux loading and stop on next lines:
1. With kernel for Magician
...
mmc0: new SD card at addess 41a8
mmcblk0: mmc0:41a8 SD01G 982 MiB
mmcvlk0: p1 p2 p3
Waiting for root device /dev/sdb2...
I wait more then 5 minutes, but nothing happens.
2. With kernel for Universal
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ds1wm: ds1wm: reset failed
Device vibrate all time and after last line turn off display.
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Ok, don't use the universal kernel, from what you posted it seems that the kernel is not pointing to the correct memory card path in the startup text file or try reinserting the card.

If anybody knows how to build kernels i can provide the files and walk them through how i built the kernel for the universal which i have just gotten a very slow and unusable eclair (mostly due to hardware) working. I think this is the most i can help out as i don't have a magician.

Videocon v2950 wm6.1 to 6.5 upgrade

Hello Geeks,
I have a Videocon V2950 mobile. The company can be seen be easliy searched . Thats a very reputed company in India which has newly stepped into the mobile market.
I am a newbie and wanted to flash ROM to upgrade from wm6.1 to wm6.5.
I read a lot in the xda-forums and the info i received was amazing and got a know a many new things about the ROM. I tried flashing an HTC ROM but the device type is not recognized in the initial process. And if i still continue then the device disconnects from active sync asa the upgrade starts (Although with a different ROM, which i understand is not the right way)
The specifications I see in my mobile are as under:
About info:---
Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional
CE OS 5.2.20758 ( Build 20758.1.4.1)
Processor: Marvell 624Mhz
Memory:106.58MB
Expansion slot: In use
Device Info is as follows :-
Software Info:
PDA Version 03.09.00
PDA Build 0909041059(1.74)
Stack Version V02.43
Stack Build: Aug 29 2009
Radio Vesrion 1.3
Radio Package 2.2
Hardware Info:---
IMEI : xxxxx
CPU Marvell PXA300
Rate 624Mhz
ROM 256MB
RAM 128MB
Screen Resolution: 240*400
Color: 65536
Blue tooth V2.0
Blue tooth Add.. : 001860035CAE
Wi-Fi : IEEE802.11b/g
Wi-Fi MAC Add: xxxxxxx
Please let me know what can be done. I appreciate all your suggestions.
Many Thanks

kindly please let me know if you need any further infomation. shall be more then happy to try gettin it

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thread closed cause the device is not HTC an we never heard of it... altho the OP move his question to another forum

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Good come back on TG01 foum

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Good come back on TG01 foum
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heh I'm here all the time in total

i downloaded the rom, installed it now my phone is bricked,
i have tried both the hard and soft resert also i have tried the 3 pin method to no joy,
i belive the file is corrupt, any idea on how i can unbrick my phone please,
cheers Nokser

daddyredmond said:
i downloaded the rom, installed it now my phone is bricked,
i have tried both the hard and soft resert also i have tried the 3 pin method to no joy,
i belive the file is corrupt, any idea on how i can unbrick my phone please,
cheers Nokser
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This ROM is Polish lang. You reupload system in Tsunagi Downloader
I have this ROM in my phone and for me, working good.

cheer,s Nokser,
will sort this out in a bit, Thanks for the Tsunagi Downloader info.
i am unsure but are youdoing an english version?
i liked your english roms and was wondering if you had anything new.
all the best daddyredmond
Edit,
I have trie the Tsunagi Downloader but i cannot get the phone into download mode any advice will be gratefully received,
cheers nokser
Edit2,
thing are ok now nokser, i persisted and now have a working TG01 again, soooo pleased.
thanks for your help, any news on a new rom for us english lol.
cheers daddyeredmond