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GOOD NEWS for linux on omap850(HTC Wizard)

Hi,
I am regularly watching linux-omap mailing list and today someone post a patch that adds support to omap850.
Patch is available here :
http://source.mvista.com/git/gitweb...9ae42d4;f=arch/arm/mach-omap1/board-fsample.c
http://source.mvista.com/git/gitweb...4;f=include/asm-arm/arch-omap/board-fsample.h
it would be interesting to checkout the tree in a few days and check this patch.
Another thing, recently I try haret on TI omap but omap wasn't supported because haret is using the bad registry to identify cpu.
On the ML someone was asking the following :
Is the OMAP850 currently detected exactly like the 730 via the JTAG ID (see
> > arch/arm/mach-omap1/id.c)
Maybe it could help.
Unfortunately I don't have time to work on it and I am not skilled enough in linux dev. to work on this but I can help developpers.
In a few days we should be able to download the linux kernel with omap850 support at this address : http://linux.omap.com/
I will keep you informed.

TI says that the OMAP is a processor that supports LINUX. So we know it can run linux, already, except if HTC has done something to make things very difficult.
(there is also RiscOS that can run on ARM9 devices... lol... )

Well, they say linux because the ARM9 core is supported by linux. The problem would lie in the fact this is a SOC (system on chip), the chip has many other system devices built into it. Now, and Joe Shmoe can go and write drivers for the internal circuits. TI doesn't want to give out the info needed to write these drivers unless you buy the chip. This chip isn't like any other chip you can go to Arrow.com and buy. I'm not that great of a coder, so I have to wait for the support to appear. I'm happy to it did, there may be hope for the EDGE modem...?

How do I beneficial?
Hi there,
May I know how do I beneficial (in terms of building a 2.6.2x kernel for OMAP850) from the following patch?
Regards,
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mosfet said:
Hi,
I am regularly watching linux-omap mailing list and today someone post a patch that adds support to omap850.
Patch is available here :
http://source.mvista.com/git/gitweb...9ae42d4;f=arch/arm/mach-omap1/board-fsample.c
http://source.mvista.com/git/gitweb...4;f=include/asm-arm/arch-omap/board-fsample.h
it would be interesting to checkout the tree in a few days and check this patch.
Another thing, recently I try haret on TI omap but omap wasn't supported because haret is using the bad registry to identify cpu.
On the ML someone was asking the following :
Is the OMAP850 currently detected exactly like the 730 via the JTAG ID (see
> > arch/arm/mach-omap1/id.c)
Maybe it could help.
Unfortunately I don't have time to work on it and I am not skilled enough in linux dev. to work on this but I can help developpers.
In a few days we should be able to download the linux kernel with omap850 support at this address : http://linux.omap.com/
I will keep you informed.
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hi,
I've ann Elf with omap850
yeah it's a good news!
but in a few days what can i Download on this site? only the kernel? the interface?

news???

up
other news?

how i install Android on HTC Elf? i try a lot of version but i have always the same problem... white screen and stop.

??? still in progress for omap850?

Support
I hope so....I'm willing to start a bounty, if we can get Android on the OMAP (ELFin), it would be genius.
Paul

I'm really looking forward to it, pleaaaase, port it, pleaaaase.

Himalaya Linux - the usual question

hi guys
first off...sorry for posting the usual question...its been done to death
i have been out of the xda-dev site for a while and have lost track of things.
i always hoped himalaya linux would get done.... but from what i can see its still lacking the key components (eg phone support under gpe).
i am a uni student on placement at a company that actually writes mobile phone radio stacks...so i am learning embedded c and about the interesting side of the hardware/software interface.... now i want to actually do something about this lack of a fully usable phone.
my questions go as follows..
1> what is the current stage of himalaya linux ... i have a feeling the wiki's are probably out of date
2> is anyone actually still working on it
3> i know only a little about haret i get the idea it is also able to watch hardware (and isnt just a bootloader)...where can i find docs about using it to do this.
4> was jtag ever found on the himalaya
5> of the code in the tree what files are specific to the himalaya
i have much to learn on writing drivers etc for linux...and alot to learn about embedded c, reverse engineering etc....ok so i have a hell of a lot to learn....but i'm willing to try! (i also have 3 himalayas (1 has a bust screen) so plenty of tinkering can be done)
any other tidbits of information would also be appreciated
i think my basic goal would be the phone working.
after that get the other little bits and pieces
get the backpack cf working
get sdio and wireless working.
but these are the kind of goals that will take a long time so we'll see
i'd also love to work on the UI one day.. GPE and OPIE just dont toot my horn enough yet.
thanks
Tim

tim_programmer said:
1> what is the current stage of himalaya linux ... i have a feeling the wiki's are probably out of date
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It is out of date, but some parts are in a good shape.
2> is anyone actually still working on it
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Yes, because it has many common hardware and features with blueangel.
The kernel source is not being fixed, because it is decided to make blueangel
work first, and then reuse and adapt the cleaned code for himalaya.
3> i know only a little about haret i get the idea it is also able to watch hardware (and isnt just a bootloader)...where can i find docs about using it to do this.
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There are no "real" docs, only the source code. Many pxa27x functions are
implemented in haret, that either work or need minor changes for pxa26x.
4> was jtag ever found on the himalaya
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Yes, it's in wiki since 3 years or so
5> of the code in the tree what files are specific to the himalaya
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Blueangel is the authoritative source.
i think my basic goal would be the phone working.
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AFAIK, the phone works. But not with the latest 2.6.18-hh0 kernel.
This one has a lot of audio problems anyway, so it's not a major concern right now.
get the backpack cf working
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It's a bit challenging. The backpack is implemented in so-called ASIC5,
and there are no docs for it.
get sdio and wireless working.
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You mean SDIO wifi card ?
The SDIO host can be done relatively easy, but good luck with the wifi part
I know 2 of them, one with the TI acx100 (should be doable, because
there is linux acx100 driver), another needs the firmware upload in Motorola
SREC format, maybe even prism2.
And there is no free software SDIO for linux, you need to do some heavy RE.

Hello guys,
I have got Himalaya and I would like to help with implementation of some driver/software that is needed.
So I have got a few questions (some of them are similar to tim_programmer's, but I don't know if there are not outdated):
1. Where is the current branch with Himalaya specific code?
I have found:
- K2-6-12-hh2-xda0-ba0 (http://xanadux.cvs.sourceforge.net/xanadux/linux-2.6-xda/) and
- K2-6-21-hh20 (http://handhelds.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/linux/kernel26/)
Is himalaya specific code that is in K2-6-12-hh2-xda0-ba0 already included in K2-6-21-hh20?
Or what differences are between these branches?
2. Is somewhere available (SD card/NFS) image with kernel+initrd+GPE that is already running on Himalaya?
I have found:
- http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HimalayaLinuxBooting
It boots, but freezes during boot (after some changes in initrd it was possible to connect to the MDA with SSH via USB bus)
- http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HimalayaStandaloneGPEWithoutSD
Link to GPE is dead.
- http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Himalaya
There are screenshots of GPE so it should be working image somewhere.
3. Is it posssible to boot some BlueAngel "distribution" on Himalaya? (Possibly with a little changes?)
I have found:
- http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BlueAngelHowtoInstallLinux
Could it be used on Himalaya?
4. What is the current state of Himalaya support in Linux? What is already done and what not (or partially)?
I have found:
- http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HimalayaToDo
But there is not mentioned of what branch state it is.
5. Is any other bootloader than HaRET with that is possible to boot to Linux directly from SD card without Windows booting?
I have found:
- bootldr (http://xanadux.cvs.sourceforge.net/xanadux/linux-2.6-xda/bootldr/)
What is it?
A lot of information about Himalaya development is outdated and I don't know where to start :-( So any help is welcome
Thanks
Drasar

drasar said:
A lot of information about Himalaya development is outdated and I don't know where to start :-( So any help is welcome
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join #htc-linux at freenode.

Thanks for the link..just joined
btw when i start Haret on my Hima..the Thermometer goes up and the eyes go red..and then few lines comes up and thats it..i have tried every thing but cant get Linux to work
waiting for the New Linux Mobile

ather90 said:
btw when i start Haret on my Hima..the Thermometer goes up and the eyes go red..and then few lines comes up and thats it..i have tried every thing but cant get Linux to work
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What kernel have you tried? What was the last message on display? Some old HaRET versions (e.g. 0.3.6) have a problem with big kernel and boot fails on mounting root fs. So try the newest HaRET 0.5.1 that goes fine.

Thankxxx alot..u are rite i have 0.3.6
here is what i have :
haret-0.5.1.exe
initrd-2.6.12.gz
modules-2.6.12.tgz
zImage-2.6.12
are these all latest

ather90 said:
haret-0.5.1.exe
initrd-2.6.12.gz
modules-2.6.12.tgz
zImage-2.6.12
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For kernel 2.6.12, follow How To Compile 4 Himalaya instructions. It works, I have tried it yesterday ;-)

Thanks alot..thankfully i have Ubuntu so compling is no big
i will contact u for more assistance

Google's Android on Magician !

Hi all,
Just read an artice on the hack of Google's impressive Android mobile OS. Hackers have used files from the emulator and installed the OS on some Linux phones. I was just thinking that there was a post on this forum saying that Linux could be Installed on Magician. Also Android uses Linux's kernal. So why not give Android a try. Would be great to use the new Android on Magician.
Any clues on how to proceed with the Installation ?

Is it really? I listen about porting on only Linux-PDA but Magican isn't Linux-PDA.

Of course, Android can run on the Magician, BUT never forget that you need drivers for the device - even for Linux!
And that's the problem: if you don't have any information about the chipset etc you will need month or even years to develop them.
If you want to run Linux on the Magician, there is already a project which try to develop drivers for Linux. Last time I read from their progress Linux runs on the Magician with the possibility to use the phone (but no GPRS)...
Use the search if you are interested;-)

Melkor said:
If you want to run Linux on the Magician, there is already a project which try to develop drivers for Linux. Last time I read from their progress Linux runs on the Magician with the possibility to use the phone (but no GPRS)...
Use the search if you are interested;-)
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It is http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Magician , isn't it?

So If Linux can be installed, then Android can also be installed. Because it supports all Linux compatible devices according to the hack.
For the DRIVER part, pls check the official Android website-
http://code.google.com/android/
and let us know. Waiting for your reply...
Thanks!

Peoples - a hve WORKING linux on my HTC magician.
name is Angstorm with GUi OpenMoko.
Work - tochscreen,Sound,GSM,blootuth.
thet meens - drivers are exist and work

Can anybody say, where i can download Google's Androuid for ANY platform ?
I'm Find =) Android For Zaurus
it seems to me, For using rootfs on magician we mast change drivers in it
http://www.omegamoon.com/blog/static.php?page=ZaurusAndroid
As me say one man, it takes compiling magican's drivers using Google android SDK.
Some useful links
Буржуйский форум -> http://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showforum=158
ЗАУРУС -> http://www.omegamoon.com/blog/static.php?page=ZaurusAndroid
Cкрины -> http://androidzaurus.seesaa.net/article/75516785.html
Angstrom на Qtek s110 -> http://grigio.org/howto_openmoko_htc_magic...dual_boot_wince
Немного о портировании для OMAP -> http://elinux.org/Android_on_OMAP
Sory for my English =)

does anyone know how to actually download the Android platform? regardless of phone model or drivers? or is it just included in the SDK and you gotta compile it yourself? If I can somehow get my hands on a copy of the image I'll probably end up spending the next 3 weeks trying to flash it natively into the ROM

The Android sources can found on this page: http://code.google.com/p/android/downloads/list

It is only kernel. Without drivers.

Found a new article for search on "Android on HTC", got this:
Android Kernel Found, Android on HTC Kaiser imminent
It says, that the kernal works only on MSM7200A chipset for now.
Take a look, link: http://fandroid.net/content/android-kernel-found-android-htc-kaiser-imminent

what i cannot understand is:
if there is an working linux kernel (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=MagicianXanadux) than android should be executable also!?
All necessary driviers shold be available.
So why should it be impossible to have a running android on a Magician?
cheers
aitsch
p.s.: the Magician is a very fast device. maybe android is running well on it.

UPDATE: Google has released a new version of Android, v0.9
Any updates on running Andriod on Magician ?
I could run Linux (Openmoko) successfully.

yea! Android 1.0 it very good
we need this

linux can run on a magician and u can use phone on it but no sms and it's full of bug's

Hi all,
I have tried to download the angstrom linux and follow the instruction from this site http://linuxtogo.org/~ph5/magician/....
but I always had kernel panic when start booting the linux, after then I found out the unzipping wasn't successful there is an error occurred during unzipping.
Does anyone ever encounter the error when unzipping? your help would be much appreciated. thank you
wayne

Hi everybody,
are there any news on running android on magican. Did anybody manage to get it running?

w00t!
I for one cannot wait to boot winCE on my Magician! Id love to put ANDROID on it! from what it looks like they are only 80% done!

I have opie II running on magician (http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcmagician/)
and it runs perfectly (except a little bug eith the menu).
And here is a list what works in linux (http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Magician)so android should work

header2k said:
I have opie II running on magician (http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcmagician/)
and it runs perfectly (except a little bug eith the menu).
And here is a list what works in linux (http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Magician)so android should work
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Interesting, I'll take a look! What are the bugs you personally notice?

Android on ARM920T phones? (like Trinity.. ;-))

Dear all,
as I wrote on this other post (excuse me for crossposting - please mods to close the wrong-placed one):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=384850
there are two guys that recompiled Android for ARMv4 processor - like ARM920T, the trinity processor!!
Here you have the links:
http://benno.id.au/blog/
http://perpetual-notion.blogspot.com/2008/10/android-freerunnder-updates.html
They are working on the Freerunner and Neo1973 devices.. but the processor is the same..
Anyone out there wants Android on our beloved trinity?
At the moment I have no spare time (and skills) to take the challenge.. but I hope that someone will do.
I think that with the source code the CLZ and Thumb mode issues are completely addressed.
Anyone could confirm this to me?
Best regards,
s

Hi,
i'm also interested to see android on my htc hermes. i'm waiting benos new blog entries to see if he was able to run the code on "Neo1973".
What is the diference between htc hermes and htc dream (g1) regarding other chips beside the prcessor?
i don't think that drivers included in android can cover all chips in hermes. can someone maybe make an list of same and different devices(chips) in this 2 devices?
thanks

G phone?
So this is the same OS that the G phone is sporting yeah?
If The flashing process isn't harder than the current process then I'd be up for this. Also will it brick the phone?
Need some people to test.

Great Topic!
More information about this here:
http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td1368755|a1368755

http://review.source.android.com/user/sean,,mcneil.com
Since the openmoko is very like the p3600 I will give these patches a try. Let you know!

That would be awesome !
Please tel us your progression.

I'm waiting for a Android ROM for my Trinity ^_^

This is what we can try. The openmoke images are out. Since the openmoke is very like the p3600 we could give these images a try. The images are located over here.
http://people.openmoko.org/sean_mcneil/androidfs.jffs2
http://people.openmoko.org/sean_mcneil/uImage-android
We need haret for the images as well.
http://www.handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/haret-0.5.2.exe
The thing we also need is to have a proper default.txt for haret. Who can help?

Hi piethein,
This will replace the rom we have installed in the trinity or is like an emulator running under wm ?
We dont loss any wm rom that we have installed ?

Dear all,
here you have some (bad) news:
http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting/browse_thread/thread/906dcae21176d4e9#
at the link above you will find a thread I started in adroid-porting developers group.
http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting/browse_thread/thread/0b3743f8151783f6#
at this link there are other infos, but let me report two msgs:
shaice:
Dear all,
sorry to bother you with (probably) silly questions but..
I own a HTC trinity that use the same ARM920T processor of Freerunner.
I saw benno's and christopher's posts on their blogs...
Is there any chance that your binaries will run on other ARM920T
phones?
Thank you in advance for any answer.
Best regards,
s
Christopher Friedt:
Hi Shaice,
In short, no (for now...)
Chris
sigh sob!
Now I'm searching for some fresh news.
Stay tuned!
s

uhmm reading somewhere in the group I found this post:
Jean-Baptiste Queru
3 Nov, 01:14
The shipping G1s have 192MB. Earlier development devices had 128MB,
and that wasn't quite enough to smoothly run the applications that
ship with the G1. Even if all the device's RAM could be allocated to
Android (no baseband, no framebuffer) 64MB would probably be very
tight, to the point where even foreground applications would risk
getting killed because of low memory conditions (the browser
especially comes to mind). In 32MB the system is likely to be
thrashing for memory even before it's done starting the system server
(if it can even start it at all).
JBQ
Mmmmh no good news for us.. :-/
s

Hi there,
basically these are great news!!!
piethein said:
This is what we can try. The openmoke images are out. Since the openmoke is very like the p3600 we could give these images a try. The images are located over here.
http://people.openmoko.org/sean_mcneil/androidfs.jffs2
http://people.openmoko.org/sean_mcneil/uImage-android
We need haret for the images as well.
http://www.handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/haret-0.5.2.exe
The thing we also need is to have a proper default.txt for haret. Who can help?
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....but forget about running exactly these images on your trinity units.
It won't work
I don't want to digg your hope but there's a lot to do to make it real.
First:
You'll need a kernel that suits to trinity and offer some features the android OS needs.
Second:
You'll have to modify the image in jffs2 format to get loaded on trinity or build up a tricky environment to mount these image files after booting the kernel.
Have fun!
scholbert

Android on Trinity wanted!!
now that the full Android code is out it's possible!!
we can have Android on Trinity!!
please help... I cannot stand anymore WM!!

IMHO there is no enough memory to run smoothly android on trinity...
but stay tuned..
s

Dear all,
there is no hope for trinity users like us to see android running on our wonderful device.
As stated here:
http://groups.google.com/group/android-internals/browse_thread/thread/788c201e75ca7351
Android don't run on the ARM920T used in Neo1973.
In the following site
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_architecture#ARM_cores there is a table
where are described all the ARM cpu.
Android framework is compiled for the ARMv5 architecture version, so run on
the all the processors that belong to this architecture version and also in
some cpu of the new architecture (ARMv6/v7).
Other information can be found on this site
http://elinux.org/Android_on_OMAP#Real_hardware.
Best Regards,
Andrea Bernardi
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:-(
bye all
s

ehm...
on HTC vox wat i was using 2 weeks ago they builded a ADNROID rom !!! But they have only clock working but working !!! (no gsm,no edge,no menu,....)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368014&page=14

didoop said:
on HTC vox wat i was using 2 weeks ago they builded a ADNROID rom !!! But they have only clock working but working !!! (no gsm,no edge,no menu,....)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368014&page=14
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a new step per day, some time good new, other time bad news..... lets get hope that android will run on trinity...

Porting Linux for Pharos in progress

I am now working on porting linux to HTC Pharos. Gotten HaREt to boot it, working on the keymap. Will post the image here when it's "usable"
For questions go to the launchpad project's "Answers" page. For discussion, use this thread.
Links:
Progress (Handhelds.org Wiki)
Launchpad project
Git repository

very very cool ... but try to do one better... try to get the android working on our phone !! (the image has been released so it should be possible to compile it for the Pharos)

I'm going to make android work, but I won't make a ROM before next year because android doesn't have a soft keyboard (onscreen keyboard). They plan to develop it in the first quarter of next year though.
Android Roadmap
Still, a working android (but without keyboard) would be cool, so when the linux kernel is good to use, I will start on android.

please DO NOT make it a rom, if possible make it work with HARET because then we have a choice!! (far more flexable)
i see you're dependant on the drivers released by source.android. q1 09 will be great (hell its allmost 2009 anyway)

I'm developing on HaRET, will release that after some time. I will maybe release an android ROM when it's stable and usable. Btw, all releases (ie. files) will be in the first post. So no need to go through pages (if this discussion will be that popular) to look for files...
Also, I can make it work pretty well without the soft keyboard drivers, but not with android. So here's my plan:
1 Make the linux kernel work (keypad and touchscreen most important now...)
2 Release kernel + a distro like familiar
3 Make it work (loosely) on Android

just a supporting note
I will be happy to see your linux rom

Awesome! It will be very interesting to see the progress of this.

i tested linwizard , the touchscreen dont work .
do you found any driver?
what about android?

touchscreen work now.
files will be available soon.

Hey, why don't use kaiser,nike,vogue,polaris zImage and just change the mtype to have android on your Pharos?
Launch haret console and find the gpios button commande and maybe somebody can make a new zimage compatible with your device?

hi,
thank you for the idea.
i already started the project.
touchscreen work very well, and i'm now working on buttons and jog wheel.
pharos is omap850 and many difference/and similarity with list of model you listed.
lets hope it work now.
can you please give me any documentation.I'm very thankful.

Oh yeah i didn't mention it wasn't the same chipset so it isn't possible to merge source with our thread.
I don't know much things but i can try to help you.
Try to contact @ : dzo, dcordes or another member in the kaiser thread
Can you please post a POC zip. I want to test how android is reactive on Pharos.
Thanks.

please join this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=494991
source will be uploaded on server as soon as possible.
for now you can play with proposed file.
you can join our project.