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Wizard v Blue Angel

Hi
Has anybody migrated from the XdaIIs, to the Wizard? is it worth it, or would it mean downgrading to something inferior?
I'm thinking about replacing my blue Angel by the Wizard, but i'm not sure if it's worth it.
Any views very very welcome!
Cheers

I migrate forom Dell X50v and Nokia 6630 on Qtek 9100. Nice! I wondeful!!!

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I migrate forom Dell X50v and Nokia 6630 on Qtek 9100. Nice! I wondeful!!!
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huh?
i'd rather have a wizard than a blue angel.. but i guess if you had a BA then it might not be that much different to justify the upgrade... maybe if the phone was free or cheap.

Wizard is smaller, compacter, keyboard is loads better, but the wizard is a lot slower

thanks - very helpful.
The wizard on TMobile UK is free on Web'n'walk 200, so that's fine.
Do you use avantgo or pocket informant on your wizard? Is it a problem with the slower processor speed?

I've just gone from a Blue Angel to a Wizard. Wizard is much better
Its a lot more reliable, feels much smaller and the keyboard is outstanding compared to the BA.
Just my opinion.
Lewis

BigDamHero wrote:
I've just gone from a Blue Angel to a Wizard. Wizard is much better
Its a lot more reliable, feels much smaller and the keyboard is outstanding compared to the BA.
Just my opinion.
Lewis
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Me too. Double ditto that..
Regards
Chris

I'm not sure where the lots slower comes from, because I find mine just as fast as my Mini, and the Mini has a faster processor than the IIs.
That is unless you install that crap at hard reset. I didn't, and have a clean device
On my device I have:
* TCPMP
* Total Commander
* PHM Regedit and PPC Plus
* SPB GPRS and Pocket Plus
* Opera Mini (MIDlet one)
* MS Stock Scramble (MS Games Pack)
* Monopoly
* Macromedia Flash ActiveX
* AvantGo 5.7
* Skype 1.2 Beta
* Agile Messenger (the free one)
* AE Uptime
* PocketRAR
I have all this installed on the internal ROM with 12.5Mb free.

I came from a PDA2k and think the Wizard is a much better device. As already stated it's seems to be a more reliable device. Much better keyboard. One handed browsing in landscape (with keyboard open) is also good. I don't really notice is being much slower, but maybe that's just me.

BA to wizard
was always very happy with teh BA (qtek 9090) except the way you have to soft reset every now and then (bless), the battery falls out whenever it wants to (less forgiveable) and the person on the other end of the phone can't hear you.
Oh, and it's like carrying a small brick, and I never use the slide out keyboard.
Do any Wizard users notice an improvement on any of these fronts, and does Tomtom 5 work ok (I assume it has a smaller screen than BA).
Many thanks

Hi pounana
Yes, all of those problems with the blue angel you note are fixed in the wizard, plus the bluetooth is light years better. ano conflicts wit wi fi either. as for tomtom, I am running 5.1 that I transferred form the supplied SD card to a mini SD that fits the wizard. Beyond the Tech on this forum has a Wizard blog with detailed install instructions. I was lucky though, as mine loaded and installed automatically no probs..
As for sceen, yes it is smaller, but very serviceable !
Hope that helps
Regards
chris

cbrow51 said:
BigDamHero wrote:
I've just gone from a Blue Angel to a Wizard. Wizard is much better
Its a lot more reliable, feels much smaller and the keyboard is outstanding compared to the BA.
Just my opinion.
Lewis
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Me too. Double ditto that..
Regards
Chris
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Same here...so far very good!!!

double double ditto supersized
This is what I wanted from a phone: something phone sized, that also had a good camera and usable PIM/comms functionality.
I considered the universal, but it's too big (like the BA is) so I'd not carry it everywhere. Consequently, as a phone, it failed...
The Wizard is the right formfactor for my phone... I like it.

Why should we not let jasjar get involved? :lol:
It got 2 camera's video conferencing, bigger and twistable screen, yeah yeah yeah.,
I wished i had a wizzard to, but i will not sell my BlueAngel to get one,
for only a better keyboard, and somewhat better camera :lol:
Maybe in the future i will get one, but i think their to expensive to buy right now,

Pimbo wrote:
Why should we not let jasjar get involved?
It got 2 camera's video conferencing, bigger and twistable screen, yeah yeah yeah.,
I wished i had a wizzard to, but i will not sell my BlueAngel to get one,
for only a better keyboard, and somewhat better camera
Maybe in the future i will get one, but i think their to expensive to buy right now,
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Well the reason may well be expalianed by your signature block... :wink:
I see you have a highly customised configuration that you probably spent hours (if not weeks and months like I did :lol: ) to get it to a state where you had decent functionality that was fairly stable.
Now take the wizard out of the box, charge the battery, switch it on and you have it right away, only better!! :wink:
Now I realise that I can never get all those "ROM cooking" hours back and some of it was really quite fun (in a masochistic kind of way :lol: ) but now it just works and I can get on with life!
Whatever floats your boat though... although I think us wizard owners are secretly starting to miss cooking our own ROMS already!!
Regards
Chris

Hello to all..
I am a newbie here and I really dont know anything about these pocketPC's..All i want to say is, I am crazy about mobiles and I hav my own mobile forum too for the Nokia. Currently I own a 6600 and 6630. I only use the Nokia S60. But this time, I wanna try out a PPC..I Really dont anything about PPC's..I will hav to learn from here..
I am really getting confused which one to buy..I want help frm you professionals..Shall i go for the Wizard or Blueangel??
I found dat wizard has 3 advantages over the BA
1)Camera
2)Keyboard
3)Weight and Looks
The only disadvantage of the wizard is the
1)processor speed
2)64MB RAM..whereas the blueangel has 128MB RAM
So we can say that the major disadvantage of the KJAM over the PDA2k is the speed of the phone and opening of applications..
Please let me know about the other advantages and disadvantages of the wizard over the blueangel.
Also tell me about the sound quality and volume of the wizard..Is it 3D sound and loud ??
I like the wizard..It looks good too..But the only thing disappointing me is the processor..It has a 200mhz processor which is kinda slow as compared to the BA..The BA has 400 mhz processor..So do you ppl think the speed really differs?? And please let me know which one u all prefer me buying??
Thank you..

Please help me in choosing the best one..and tell me the CONS and PROS of both over each other

I am currently running a ba with wm5 on it and really like it, but am thinking of getting a wizard too but for the edge technology. The processor worried me too until I did some reading. The TI Omap 850 is a dual core type processor, which should show no real speed diff from the 400mhz that is in the ba.
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uote="cyber_bilal"]Hello to all..
I am a newbie here and I really dont know anything about these pocketPC's..All i want to say is, I am crazy about mobiles and I hav my own mobile forum too for the Nokia. Currently I own a 6600 and 6630. I only use the Nokia S60. But this time, I wanna try out a PPC..I Really dont anything about PPC's..I will hav to learn from here..
I am really getting confused which one to buy..I want help frm you professionals..Shall i go for the Wizard or Blueangel??
I found dat wizard has 3 advantages over the BA
1)Camera
2)Keyboard
3)Weight and Looks
The only disadvantage of the wizard is the
1)processor speed
2)64MB RAM..whereas the blueangel has 128MB RAM
So we can say that the major disadvantage of the KJAM over the PDA2k is the speed of the phone and opening of applications..
Please let me know about the other advantages and disadvantages of the wizard over the blueangel.
Also tell me about the sound quality and volume of the wizard..Is it 3D sound and loud ??
I like the wizard..It looks good too..But the only thing disappointing me is the processor..It has a 200mhz processor which is kinda slow as compared to the BA..The BA has 400 mhz processor..So do you ppl think the speed really differs?? And please let me know which one u all prefer me buying??
Thank you..[/quote]

hdbueller said:
I am currently running a ba with wm5 on it and really like it, but am thinking of getting a wizard too but for the edge technology. The processor worried me too until I did some reading. The TI Omap 850 is a dual core type processor, which should show no real speed diff from the 400mhz that is in the ba.
Later........
cyber_bilal said:
Hello to all..
I am a newbie here and I really dont know anything about these pocketPC's..All i want to say is, I am crazy about mobiles and I hav my own mobile forum too for the Nokia. Currently I own a 6600 and 6630. I only use the Nokia S60. But this time, I wanna try out a PPC..I Really dont anything about PPC's..I will hav to learn from here..
I am really getting confused which one to buy..I want help frm you professionals..Shall i go for the Wizard or Blueangel??
I found dat wizard has 3 advantages over the BA
1)Camera
2)Keyboard
3)Weight and Looks
The only disadvantage of the wizard is the
1)processor speed
2)64MB RAM..whereas the blueangel has 128MB RAM
So we can say that the major disadvantage of the KJAM over the PDA2k is the speed of the phone and opening of applications..
Please let me know about the other advantages and disadvantages of the wizard over the blueangel.
Also tell me about the sound quality and volume of the wizard..Is it 3D sound and loud ??
I like the wizard..It looks good too..But the only thing disappointing me is the processor..It has a 200mhz processor which is kinda slow as compared to the BA..The BA has 400 mhz processor..So do you ppl think the speed really differs?? And please let me know which one u all prefer me buying??
Thank you..
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Really thanks for replying..I think ill go for the K-jam.

I had a blue angel, a magician and now the Wizard.
I like the wizard very much.
Blue Angel:
Pros: quick, big screen, internal wifi (crap reception)
Cons: bulky, not comfortable in the pocket, heavy, keyboard not comfortable for lot's of typing - after a while I reverted back to the virtual keyboard, bluetooth worked TERRIBLE !!!! - lot's of noise and static - tried 3 different BA devices and 5 different BT headsets - all carp. No bluetooth voice dialing - major disadvantage. Not stable all the time, had to reset from time to time which irritated me. Terrible camera (!)
Magician:
Pros: lighter then the BA, size was reasonable, quick as the BA
Cons: no keyboard, small screen, bluetooth still crap, no BT voice dialing, no WM5, No wifi, bad camera, no so great handsfree speakerphone
Wizard:
Pros: acceptable size, great keyboard, wifi on board (802.11G - reception signal strength could be better - since i am comparing thr reception to the sandisk wifi card that i had for my magician), quad band, better camera, WM5, bluetooth FINALLY works as it should have all along which is GREAT !!!, very stable, practical and nice, good speakerphone, great sound!
Cons: I'm not sure if it's really that slower than the BA or Magician... however I'm disappointed by the CPU speed rating. Due to the mechanical design - all of the carrying cases in the market so far are a compromise - not great to say the least. Bad stylus concept, design and implementation.
So which one is the best so far?
The wizard. without a doubt.
Go for it.

Bad Buzz on the Atom

I am considering purchasing the Atom as a replacement for my much-loved XDA2. However, several reviews and user comments in other forums have indicated that the Atom suffers from:
1) Poor quality construction- Cheesy plastic case
2) Buggy/Slow WM5 OS
3) Poor camera
What about the experience here? Do you all agree with the comments above? Would you recommend Atom as a replacement for the XDA2, or another device? Thanks

Someone has already asked this question, see my response.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=50054&highlight=
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=49399&highlight=

Bad Buzz Responses
Thanks, Experimenter for your post, but no one has addressed the issues I raised except to say that they love the device. Many more reviews say exactly the opposite....... my favorite "looks good, works bad". Can the users in this forum polear give me some advice on this? Thanks

Here's my 2cents opinion
Hi Pharmer,
Well let me address the issues u raised :
1) Poor quality construction- Cheesy plastic case
2) Buggy/Slow WM5 OS
3) Poor camera
Its hard to answer your questions simply because it can be quite subjective.
Best is for u to walk into a shop and handle one yourself, then you can decide on 1) ... try out the camera and decide on 3)
Some ppl complain that the black makes fingerprint smudges obvious ... but really, my peeve, which applies to almost all PDA phones, is when u hold it to your ear to make calls you'll get a greasy touch screen.
I use a casing to protect the screen.
As for your point #2 I've not had problems after the ROM upgrades ... then again, just like a PC, it really depends on what you install into the handheld. Lots of times its the quality of the additional software u install, or if u install and uninstall lots of stuff to try em out.
Software I currently use :
TCPMP to watch movies and listen to MP3 using STEREO bluetooth
HICALC calculator
Resco Explorer and Registry Editor
Pocket Informant
O2 Plus
Not had any problems using my Atom with all these loaded. In fact, I'm extremely pleased with my Atom right now.
As for the camera, yes it has been pretty poor (by my standards for a 2MP) but seems to have improved with each ROM upgrade. Seems to take pretty decent pictures now. I have found you get best results outdoors on a bright day and indoors don't do as well.
well end of the day I can only say that if you are looking for perfection then it'll be a long wait ... every device will have its flaws ...
I made my purchasing decision based on :
1. Decided on Atom's slower wireless 'B' instead of other devices which had faster 'G' as I don't expect to be doin major surfing on a tiny device ... just needed the connectivity for email and occasional browsing if a PC is not available. What is important is at least WPA support which the Atom has. Even the 'B' is faster than my broadband access and I transfer files via active sync or using a card reader so wireless speed not an issue there.
2. Selected the Atom because of the STEREO bluetooth which allows me to watch movies and listen to MP3 in full stereo ... This feature has not been available on most other devices until recently I think.
3. Sleek and small size. Not too clunky, but some ppl prefer a keyboard for SMS so I suppose it may not be for everyone.

Atom Qualities
Hi, Experimenter- Thanks for your reply. As to why I don't just go look at one in a store, you might be interested to know that the US carriers generally do not carry these phones. As far as I am aware, no US carrier has the Atom. In the US, we usually purchase them unseen (except for pictures) from websites. Even T-Mobile US doesn't carry the phones the T-Mobile in Europe carries. As for any carrier-based service- for the phone, forget it.
Anyway, sorry for the rant, but that's why we depend on people like yourself to give honest opinions before we buy. The pictures of the Atom look pretty good, but the majority of the revierws have been bad suggesting that perhaps this is a phone that needs some improvement. My second choice is the 128mb Jam(charcoal). Looks like a similar phone to the Atom but with WM2003se instead of WM5. All the reviews on WM5 indicate that this os needs a little improvement too.
Finally, your comment that none of these phones are perfect is true and I'm certainly not looking for perfection. My MDA2 is still pretty good and perhaps its not time yet to upgrade.

atom's camera
hi experimenter i would like to inquire about the atom's camera in the latest official rom.. how many seconds does it take the atom to load the cam? and how long does it take to save pics shot? thanks dude.
about the overall performance, would you give a rough percentage of its increased speed performance compared to the previous rom (it's ok if it's your opinion). thank you very much

Re: Atom Qualities
Hi
Giving my 3 copper coins worth on ATOM too, since I am a user since last December 2005. I've been carrying other larger and powerful XDA devices before this, so I think the ATOM has it's hits and misses. IMHO, the usual benchmark on buying an ATOM is based on 2 very important criteria:
(a) Are you a COOL GADGET person?
(b) Are you tech-savvy and able to tinkle a bit on the the WM2005 registry?
I am not sure about the specs of the alternate JAM devices you have mentioned, but I reckon the hardware specs should be similar to ATOM except for the cover design and the OS.
WM2003SE is in the market longer, and there are better support of software. But that will means that it is possible for ATOM to downgrade to WM2003SE as well?
Very few pple however, will do that. WM2005 is here to stay, but as with everything M$, gave every1 more time to tweak the bugs.

Moved from Universal to Hermes (Observations)

FYI - Anyone considering upgrading to Hermes
I have been using a universal for the last 18months and have now sold it and upgraded to the HTC Hermes.
The universal served me very well and the only thing I miss is the larger screen and VGA resolution and standard 3.5mm jack - however - I don't miss the bulk.
The hermes is everything the universal is minus the VGA.
My default Rom on the universal was Helmi's v1.3 which was AKU 3.5 and was a very very stable/solid rom.
I later installed PDAVIET 2.04 pro (Crossbow/WM6) which was a little temperamental but solid never the less.
I have installed XDA Live 0.20 which is a Crossbow rom on the hermes and it is very fast, I mean very very fast in comparison to the the universal.
In actual fact the hermes feels like an overclocked blue angel. (Normal operation, responsiveness, games etc)
Before I had the universal I had a blue angel that I used to regularly overclock to 530mhz (XCPUSCHALAR) and I can tell you that the herms feels very close to this.
I actually wonder what the hermes is capable of if overclocked slightly - As I don't have any figures (Pocket Hackmaster performance Index, SPB benchmark, etc) I can only speculate - but I'm looking forward to investigating this further.
Incidently the hermes has the Imageon gpu that was present in the blue angel so it runs films in TCPMP with hardware acceleration something the universal lacks.
Now I'm not sure whether the Universal had slow ram, or it being a VGA device slowed it down or what but I do know that the hermes is orders of magnitude more responsive in every day operation than the universal was...
Wireless connects at 54mbs on the hermes instead of the 11mbs maximum thoroughput the universal supports even with the 802.11g hack.
And the Hermes also supports HSDPA (1.8mbs theoretical - if your network provider supports it). Admittedly this was a deal breaker for me as umts is cool but connecting at 1.8mbs to the internet whilst on the road is edging very close to nirvana LOL!
Now while I will miss browsing servers at 640x480 using ts client in WM6 (WM5 tsc was atrocious BTW - LOL!) I feel the hermes features and performance more than make up for it. Plus I recently purchased a Sony u50 (1st generation umpc circa 2004) which has a 800x600 5 inch screen and the u50 allows me to TS into server using the hermes as a modem (Bluetooth or serial comms)
Last but not least I need to mention the hermes 2MP camera - OMDs - LOL.
It is head and shoulders above any HTC Camera I've ever experienced and I have seen them all...
SPV to wallaby to alpine to blueangel to universal I've had them all and this camera is the 1st USEABLE camera in terms of how responsive the camera app is, the picture quality and the overall experience!
Granted it's no replacement for my Canon SLR BUT (BIG BUT) it's definitely useable and supports typical camera functions such as self timer, darkness controls etc.
All other HTC devices had a fairly decent camera app but a piss poor camera sensor that only operated remotely correctly with good light. The pics I get with the hermes are of comparable quality to recent nokia and sony phones.
Hope this information is of use to anyone considering moving from the Universal to a hermes.

haha funny enough I was looking at the hermes last night.
My contract has run out, im in the UK and o2 are no longer doing free gprs so I need to jump ship as its damn expensive! Three are offering unlimited (1gig) a month for £5 so that's my main option plus they have a HSDPA network. But the downside is they don't offer the hermes so i'd have to get it seperatly I want a hermes
Thanks for the review, I want a hermes more now
Thanks
Stu

actually, just a thought... with WM6 PIE has the option to view in VGA mode, this makes website VERY easy to view as if they were on a desktop pretty much which makes browsing actually possible on these devices. Is that function still available on the hermes ?
thanks
Stu

IE VGA
Hi Stu,
No that feature is not available in WM6 IE for the hermes as it is a qvga device (320x240)
Just checked the menu options in IE and noticed that option was missing whereas it was there in WM6 IE on the universal.
Cheers
q

stualpha said:
haha funny enough I was looking at the hermes last night.
My contract has run out, im in the UK and o2 are no longer doing free gprs so I need to jump ship as its damn expensive! Three are offering unlimited (1gig) a month for £5 so that's my main option plus they have a HSDPA network. But the downside is they don't offer the hermes so i'd have to get it seperatly I want a hermes
Thanks for the review, I want a hermes more now
Thanks
Stu
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O2 are just about to bring out a new XDA which is similar looking to the Hermes but appears to have a faster processor. It is apparently out on 26 March.

ooo in that case I may hang around to see what it's like.
But saying that the data is a huge issue data costs on o2 are huge plus i'm a student so we can whine more lol
thanks guys
Stu
also :: do you know which device it is ? I presume specs are already out possibly ? or pics ?
thanks

stualpha said:
ooo in that case I may hang around to see what it's like.
But saying that the data is a huge issue data costs on o2 are huge plus i'm a student so we can whine more lol
thanks guys
Stu
also :: do you know which device it is ? I presume specs are already out possibly ? or pics ?
thanks
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It's an Asustek apparently. Just Google O2 Zinc and you'll find it.

http://www.msmobilenews.com/content/view/1730/1/
think i'll hold out for this puppy!! looks sweet, shame about the vga though

stualpha said:
http://www.msmobilenews.com/content/view/1730/1/
think i'll hold out for this puppy!! looks sweet, shame about the vga though
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Or you might like to hold out for the I-mate Ultimate 7150 - more ROM, more RAM, faster processor, VGA .....

not made my mind up about the design of the new ultimate series, dont know what it is, they look at a little funny :? will have to see it in flesh.
This is what I hate about these things, its always add a little bit of extra time on and wait for the next device

The very mention of microSD in these devices is enough for me to overlook them and appreciate my Universal even more - despite the superior performance of the new devices over the Universal. Since the Universal is VGA, has a stable performance, and uses SD Cards - I am pleased with it.
Only when SDHC readers start becoming more mainstream in PDA Phones will I start considering a successor to the Universal.

Help Please . I need Some Opinions...

Hello XDA-DEV .
I needed some opinions about this phone. I checked all the reviews that were online , I have been studying about this phone for sometime now. Let me tell you about me and then I will ask for your opinions. I currently am using a HTC TYTN and it’s a ok device. I have a O2 XDA EXEC that I bought 6 months ago and I love the device but poor signal were I live ( MA, USA ) I mean I have owned many HTC devices ( TREO 750, HTC Apache , HTC TYTN , HTC Wizard , HTC Universal , Blue Angel and DASH and many other devices like BB 8800 and 8700g and 8100 and TREO 650 and 600 , but WM is the way for me) I still have all these phones. My questions is that I love the screen and performance of the O2 XDA EXEC but the signal is very bad. I mean day and night between that and TYTN. I have tried pretty much any ROM that ever came out cooked or shipped with all the radio ROMs out there still nothing. So my questions is that how is Advantage, I am buying one this week but before I spend my money on it I want to see if it is worth the money.
Form all the people that have Advantage or AMEO or U1000 could you give me some opinions also size wise is it a lot bigger than Universal or NO?
Also if anyone lives on NE area in USA how is your experience with this device.
Again I appreciated all the effort that this community has done and all I can say is thank you.

My personal opinion is that it does feel quite a lot bigger than the Universal, but it is totally worth it! TBH, neither fits in your jeans pocket so once you get to Universal size then it doesn't matter if a device is a bit bigger if it is packing what the Athena is packing. Can't help you when it comes to signal, although I personally have had no problems at all.

Thank You. Honestly i dont think the size is really a problem. do you use this as a phone also. how is the day to day phone call operation. is it a pain or no.

I use mine as a normal phone, when cycling it's on wired headset, rest of the time I hold it to my ear..
'tis big, but hey so what

I went from the TyTn to the Athena. I loved the size of the TyTN with the exception of the screen size. Screen size just didn't feel right. I was a bit apprehensive before going to the Athena but don't regret it one bit. I was also discouraged when I found out that you couldn't hold it up to the ear like a regular phone but now that I've been using it for a while, I love it and much better. Phone is MUCH more stable than the TyTn, faster, etc. If I had to choose it would only be between the Universal and Athena. Are you experiencing the screen alignment issue with your TyTN?
Edit: Also, bluetooth on Athena works better than on TyTN.

from what i've heard so far this device is great. i have been waiting for it to come here and i will get me one 2maro. i cant wait till get it in my hands. i love the features. i was gonna get iphone but i phone has nothing on this.
i wanna say thank you for your opinions. it mean alot.

ltxda said:
I went from the TyTn to the Athena. I loved the size of the TyTN with the exception of the screen size. Screen size just didn't feel right. I was a bit apprehensive before going to the Athena but don't regret it one bit. I was also discouraged when I found out that you couldn't hold it up to the ear like a regular phone but now that I've been using it for a while, I love it and much better. Phone is MUCH more stable than the TyTn, faster, etc. If I had to choose it would only be between the Universal and Athena. Are you experiencing the screen alignment issue with your TyTN?
Edit: Also, bluetooth on Athena works better than on TyTN.
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no. but everytime i put this phone to my ear , it seams to hit something in the screen casue i keep hearing keytone. but i never had this problem with Uni, witch has bigger screen.
TYTN is ok but it is slow. i mean it freezes on me all the time. it takes 4ever for it to load.

fatouraee said:
no. but everytime i put this phone to my ear , it seams to hit something in the screen casue i keep hearing keytone. but i never had this problem with Uni, witch has bigger screen.
TYTN is ok but it is slow. i mean it freezes on me all the time. it takes 4ever for it to load.
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Yes, you're right...it does freeze a lot and is slooooooooooow. You need to get an Athena. You won't regret it. I have the www.jawbone.com as my bluetooth headset and works great. Also, not sure if it was a hardware or software issue but they keyboard on the TyTN sucks!

fatouraee said:
Thank You. Honestly i dont think the size is really a problem. do you use this as a phone also. how is the day to day phone call operation. is it a pain or no.
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I use it as my only phone. Most the time it is paired with my Jabra BT8010 which makes it much more useable as a phone. However I hold it up on speaker phone if my Jabra is off and that works fine too. Enjoy your new toy!

ltxda said:
Yes, you're right...it does freeze a lot and is slooooooooooow. You need to get an Athena. You won't regret it. I have the www.jawbone.com as my bluetooth headset and works great. Also, not sure if it was a hardware or software issue but they keyboard on the TyTN sucks!
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yup. he i saw your post recently and i bought a jawbone headset. the thing is amazing. how do you like the phone. i know u r in us and have tmobile service , how is it working for you so far.

fatouraee said:
yup. he i saw your post recently and i bought a jawbone headset. the thing is amazing. how do you like the phone. i know u r in us and have tmobile service , how is it working for you so far.
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It's working perfectly. I bought three units. So me and two buddies, all using TMobile in the US are very happy with the phone. I just don't trust the MicroDrive yet but don't really worry about it because I use a 4GB miniSDHC card to install my apps to. I'm in love with this phone and so are my two buddies. The built in GPS, which the TyTN doesn't have is a great great thing. I've purchased pretty much every high end phone HTC has made and this one is by far the best. The Universal comes in second place in my opinion. Reception on the Athena is better than the Universal and TyTN in my area. I gave my Universal to my fiancee so she uses it all the time. A great device and better than the TyTN.

ltxda said:
It's working perfectly. The built in GPS, which the TyTN doesn't have is a great great thing. I've purchased pretty much every high end phone HTC has made and this one is by far the best. The Universal comes in second place in my opinion.
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Thank,I have owned lots of pda phone - last time i had a regular phone was 5years ago. i started with hitachi g1000 from sprint back in the day.i own a business so it makes my life alot easier. Hey what software do you use for gps. i heard it doesnt come with maps . what do you use?

fatouraee said:
Thank,I have owned lots of pda phone - last time i had a regular phone was 5years ago. i started with hitachi g1000 from sprint back in the day.i own a business so it makes my life alot easier. Hey what software do you use for gps. i heard it doesnt come with maps . what do you use?
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I also own a business and this phone helps me stay organized. Also, being in a technology business, my customers almost expect me to have the latest and greatest. I don't disappoint. ;-)
I'm using TomTom. You do get one free map but what I did was just went out and purchased the full product for $150 from www.tomtom.com. It comes with the entire US and Cananda. I also like the Plus service. I have my state map, the regional map for this area and also the entire US map loaded. I keep the state map active. The entire US map doesn't contain all of the POI by default. I downloaded the POI that were not included in the default install so I'm up to speed. I use the local maps because they help with performance according to TomTom support. Just less data to deal with I guess.
My next purchase is going to be a low profile stereo bluetooth headset so I can listen to audio while lying down, etc. Going to be asking for opinions on this shortly.

ltxda said:
I also own a business and this phone helps me stay organized. Also, being in a technology business, my customers almost expect me to have the latest and greatest. I don't disappoint. ;-)
I'm using TomTom. You do get one free map but what I did was just went out and purchased the full product for $150 from www.tomtom.com. It comes with the entire US and Cananda. I also like the Plus service. I have my state map, the regional map for this area and also the entire US map loaded. I keep the state map active. The entire US map doesn't contain all of the POI by default. I downloaded the POI that were not included in the default install so I'm up to speed. I use the local maps because they help with performance according to TomTom support. Just less data to deal with I guess.
My next purchase is going to be a low profile stereo bluetooth headset so I can listen to audio while lying down, etc. Going to be asking for opinions on this shortly.
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How is the speed in navigation mode. is it similar tp the one in the car or slower.

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How is the speed in navigation mode. is it similar tp the one in the car or slower.
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Not sure. I've only had GPS for my PPC Phones. Never had the GPS devices. I know that in the past, the PocketPC GPS software was easier to customize, etc. Not sure with the newer GPS products.

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It's working perfectly. I bought three units. So me and two buddies, all using TMobile in the US are very happy with the phone. I just don't trust the MicroDrive yet but don't really worry about it because I use a 4GB miniSDHC card to install my apps to. I'm in love with this phone and so are my two buddies. The built in GPS, which the TyTN doesn't have is a great great thing. I've purchased pretty much every high end phone HTC has made and this one is by far the best. The Universal comes in second place in my opinion. Reception on the Athena is better than the Universal and TyTN in my area. I gave my Universal to my fiancee so she uses it all the time. A great device and better than the TyTN.
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Hm... I install many app to microdrive and some file on it, but backup regulary. No prob at all!!! Even on test using SKtools, the speed of microdrive far better than SD card almost 3-4x faster!!!

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Hm... I install many app to microdrive and some file on it, but backup regulary. No prob at all!!! Even on test using SKtools, the speed of microdrive far better than SD card almost 3-4x faster!!!
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Yes, but it also drain a bit more memory....maybe when I update to WM6, i will give Micro Drive another try

is the problem with the micro drive solved. i know some poeple had problems specially with ameo. also how is the quality of video on this device.

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is the problem with the micro drive solved. i know some poeple had problems specially with ameo. also how is the quality of video on this device.
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the Micro Drive issue is due to the ROM, so it's a software issue, now all the device seems to be running ok, but personally, i still don't trust the Micro Drive that much, the quality of video plays really well on the DOPOD U1000, you do need to make sure you set up your core player or TCPMP correctly, after that it plays the video smoothly.

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Hm... I install many app to microdrive and some file on it, but backup regulary. No prob at all!!! Even on test using SKtools, the speed of microdrive far better than SD card almost 3-4x faster!!!
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Yes performance is quicker and so is the battery drain. I've just had a couple of files come up corrupt on the Microdrive so I know there is still some problem there that wasn't solved. Hopefully in the next ROM though. For now I'm keeping only movies and MP3's and audio books, etc on the Microdrive but nothing that isn't backed up.

is there a better phone/pda

hi all looking at getting a trinity 3600 because i need stanalone gps, pda and a phone that takes my 3 sim card. just wondering b4 i take the plunge is there another phone that will meet my requirements that anybody thinks is better than the 3600 cheers

Other devices...
Well, the HTC Advantage can do all the same things, plus it has a VGA screen, but is a much more bulky device. The only other device I'm aware of that does all that the Trinity does is the Nokia N95. The Nokia has the advantage of a 5MP camera (only 2mp on the Trinity), but it doesn't run pocket PC (it's Symbian I think).
Other than that, I'm not aware of any others. The Trinity is a very good device, you'd be hard pushed to beat it!
Lee

but Advantage i read can only be used as a phone using a headset
it dont have a mic or something
polaris the upcomming replacement for Artemis but it's not out yet
another option could be Kaiser is another option if one is not bothered by the extre thickness the keyboard adds or even pref a keyboard

thanks for your replies the n95 i think you have to pay for the gps service I dont think it has a built in sirfstar 3 chipset or any alike so i would not go for that but i will have a look at the kaiser cheers

Yes, N95 runs Symbian, but no touchscreen. I've tried it a few days ago - much slower than my N73.

Other options
As of now the Trinity is one of the best PDA'a around.
Other phones that you can consider are the Asus P535/525 series and the Eten M700.
These phones have all the feature the Trinity has and then some more. Like all phones, the Trinity also has its fair share of problems.
I was about to buy the Trinity but holding out for the Kaiser, it has all the feature that I want in a phone.
Just my 2 cents worth.
Cheers,
Hiren

i'll wait for polaris or nike myself
dont want a slideout keyboard

polaris looks really good just took a look out in october ultra thin aswell says 3.5 in screen does that make the phone bigger than the mda 3 compact and is it defo 3g because it was the mda i wanted but only 2g

hi...
is there a better phone/pda? interesting question....
If you are using it mostly like a phone I wouldnt go for the trinity because of two issues:
* I need a quite strong GSM signal to get acceptable sound quality. People I call often complain about the quality of my voice when compared to a 'normal' phone. Maybe is my device, people in this forum say, but I tried some proposed remedies without success.
* Screen is nearly invisible outdoors on a sunny day
If you are using mostly PDA features, the trinity may be an interesting option. The rest of features work really well, specially GPS.
Beware a new (pricey) trinity version is to be released soon (or maybe already). Hopefully they solve these issues plus the paint peeling off thing. Then it would be the perfect phone.

Depends on what you value!
If you need the phone for business, don't get a PDA phone coz the reception is NOT 100% reliable...
What do you need the PDA for?
All in all, it might be better to get a TomTom GO, then a cheap phone with bluetooth that can connect to TomTom!
But as previously said, D810X is meant to be coming out, no idea when and how much though.

D810x is out in Australia as the HTC p3600i.

i think dell axim x51 is very good for gaming but it dont have a camera!

Polaris looks its gonna be great! I remember reading it only has 400mhz cpu :S