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Wizard v Blue Angel

Hi
Has anybody migrated from the XdaIIs, to the Wizard? is it worth it, or would it mean downgrading to something inferior?
I'm thinking about replacing my blue Angel by the Wizard, but i'm not sure if it's worth it.
Any views very very welcome!
Cheers

I migrate forom Dell X50v and Nokia 6630 on Qtek 9100. Nice! I wondeful!!!

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huh?
i'd rather have a wizard than a blue angel.. but i guess if you had a BA then it might not be that much different to justify the upgrade... maybe if the phone was free or cheap.

Wizard is smaller, compacter, keyboard is loads better, but the wizard is a lot slower

thanks - very helpful.
The wizard on TMobile UK is free on Web'n'walk 200, so that's fine.
Do you use avantgo or pocket informant on your wizard? Is it a problem with the slower processor speed?

I've just gone from a Blue Angel to a Wizard. Wizard is much better
Its a lot more reliable, feels much smaller and the keyboard is outstanding compared to the BA.
Just my opinion.
Lewis

BigDamHero wrote:
I've just gone from a Blue Angel to a Wizard. Wizard is much better
Its a lot more reliable, feels much smaller and the keyboard is outstanding compared to the BA.
Just my opinion.
Lewis
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Me too. Double ditto that..
Regards
Chris

I'm not sure where the lots slower comes from, because I find mine just as fast as my Mini, and the Mini has a faster processor than the IIs.
That is unless you install that crap at hard reset. I didn't, and have a clean device
On my device I have:
* TCPMP
* Total Commander
* PHM Regedit and PPC Plus
* SPB GPRS and Pocket Plus
* Opera Mini (MIDlet one)
* MS Stock Scramble (MS Games Pack)
* Monopoly
* Macromedia Flash ActiveX
* AvantGo 5.7
* Skype 1.2 Beta
* Agile Messenger (the free one)
* AE Uptime
* PocketRAR
I have all this installed on the internal ROM with 12.5Mb free.

I came from a PDA2k and think the Wizard is a much better device. As already stated it's seems to be a more reliable device. Much better keyboard. One handed browsing in landscape (with keyboard open) is also good. I don't really notice is being much slower, but maybe that's just me.

BA to wizard
was always very happy with teh BA (qtek 9090) except the way you have to soft reset every now and then (bless), the battery falls out whenever it wants to (less forgiveable) and the person on the other end of the phone can't hear you.
Oh, and it's like carrying a small brick, and I never use the slide out keyboard.
Do any Wizard users notice an improvement on any of these fronts, and does Tomtom 5 work ok (I assume it has a smaller screen than BA).
Many thanks

Hi pounana
Yes, all of those problems with the blue angel you note are fixed in the wizard, plus the bluetooth is light years better. ano conflicts wit wi fi either. as for tomtom, I am running 5.1 that I transferred form the supplied SD card to a mini SD that fits the wizard. Beyond the Tech on this forum has a Wizard blog with detailed install instructions. I was lucky though, as mine loaded and installed automatically no probs..
As for sceen, yes it is smaller, but very serviceable !
Hope that helps
Regards
chris

cbrow51 said:
BigDamHero wrote:
I've just gone from a Blue Angel to a Wizard. Wizard is much better
Its a lot more reliable, feels much smaller and the keyboard is outstanding compared to the BA.
Just my opinion.
Lewis
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Me too. Double ditto that..
Regards
Chris
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Same here...so far very good!!!

double double ditto supersized
This is what I wanted from a phone: something phone sized, that also had a good camera and usable PIM/comms functionality.
I considered the universal, but it's too big (like the BA is) so I'd not carry it everywhere. Consequently, as a phone, it failed...
The Wizard is the right formfactor for my phone... I like it.

Why should we not let jasjar get involved? :lol:
It got 2 camera's video conferencing, bigger and twistable screen, yeah yeah yeah.,
I wished i had a wizzard to, but i will not sell my BlueAngel to get one,
for only a better keyboard, and somewhat better camera :lol:
Maybe in the future i will get one, but i think their to expensive to buy right now,

Pimbo wrote:
Why should we not let jasjar get involved?
It got 2 camera's video conferencing, bigger and twistable screen, yeah yeah yeah.,
I wished i had a wizzard to, but i will not sell my BlueAngel to get one,
for only a better keyboard, and somewhat better camera
Maybe in the future i will get one, but i think their to expensive to buy right now,
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Well the reason may well be expalianed by your signature block... :wink:
I see you have a highly customised configuration that you probably spent hours (if not weeks and months like I did :lol: ) to get it to a state where you had decent functionality that was fairly stable.
Now take the wizard out of the box, charge the battery, switch it on and you have it right away, only better!! :wink:
Now I realise that I can never get all those "ROM cooking" hours back and some of it was really quite fun (in a masochistic kind of way :lol: ) but now it just works and I can get on with life!
Whatever floats your boat though... although I think us wizard owners are secretly starting to miss cooking our own ROMS already!!
Regards
Chris

Hello to all..
I am a newbie here and I really dont know anything about these pocketPC's..All i want to say is, I am crazy about mobiles and I hav my own mobile forum too for the Nokia. Currently I own a 6600 and 6630. I only use the Nokia S60. But this time, I wanna try out a PPC..I Really dont anything about PPC's..I will hav to learn from here..
I am really getting confused which one to buy..I want help frm you professionals..Shall i go for the Wizard or Blueangel??
I found dat wizard has 3 advantages over the BA
1)Camera
2)Keyboard
3)Weight and Looks
The only disadvantage of the wizard is the
1)processor speed
2)64MB RAM..whereas the blueangel has 128MB RAM
So we can say that the major disadvantage of the KJAM over the PDA2k is the speed of the phone and opening of applications..
Please let me know about the other advantages and disadvantages of the wizard over the blueangel.
Also tell me about the sound quality and volume of the wizard..Is it 3D sound and loud ??
I like the wizard..It looks good too..But the only thing disappointing me is the processor..It has a 200mhz processor which is kinda slow as compared to the BA..The BA has 400 mhz processor..So do you ppl think the speed really differs?? And please let me know which one u all prefer me buying??
Thank you..

Please help me in choosing the best one..and tell me the CONS and PROS of both over each other

I am currently running a ba with wm5 on it and really like it, but am thinking of getting a wizard too but for the edge technology. The processor worried me too until I did some reading. The TI Omap 850 is a dual core type processor, which should show no real speed diff from the 400mhz that is in the ba.
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uote="cyber_bilal"]Hello to all..
I am a newbie here and I really dont know anything about these pocketPC's..All i want to say is, I am crazy about mobiles and I hav my own mobile forum too for the Nokia. Currently I own a 6600 and 6630. I only use the Nokia S60. But this time, I wanna try out a PPC..I Really dont anything about PPC's..I will hav to learn from here..
I am really getting confused which one to buy..I want help frm you professionals..Shall i go for the Wizard or Blueangel??
I found dat wizard has 3 advantages over the BA
1)Camera
2)Keyboard
3)Weight and Looks
The only disadvantage of the wizard is the
1)processor speed
2)64MB RAM..whereas the blueangel has 128MB RAM
So we can say that the major disadvantage of the KJAM over the PDA2k is the speed of the phone and opening of applications..
Please let me know about the other advantages and disadvantages of the wizard over the blueangel.
Also tell me about the sound quality and volume of the wizard..Is it 3D sound and loud ??
I like the wizard..It looks good too..But the only thing disappointing me is the processor..It has a 200mhz processor which is kinda slow as compared to the BA..The BA has 400 mhz processor..So do you ppl think the speed really differs?? And please let me know which one u all prefer me buying??
Thank you..[/quote]

hdbueller said:
I am currently running a ba with wm5 on it and really like it, but am thinking of getting a wizard too but for the edge technology. The processor worried me too until I did some reading. The TI Omap 850 is a dual core type processor, which should show no real speed diff from the 400mhz that is in the ba.
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cyber_bilal said:
Hello to all..
I am a newbie here and I really dont know anything about these pocketPC's..All i want to say is, I am crazy about mobiles and I hav my own mobile forum too for the Nokia. Currently I own a 6600 and 6630. I only use the Nokia S60. But this time, I wanna try out a PPC..I Really dont anything about PPC's..I will hav to learn from here..
I am really getting confused which one to buy..I want help frm you professionals..Shall i go for the Wizard or Blueangel??
I found dat wizard has 3 advantages over the BA
1)Camera
2)Keyboard
3)Weight and Looks
The only disadvantage of the wizard is the
1)processor speed
2)64MB RAM..whereas the blueangel has 128MB RAM
So we can say that the major disadvantage of the KJAM over the PDA2k is the speed of the phone and opening of applications..
Please let me know about the other advantages and disadvantages of the wizard over the blueangel.
Also tell me about the sound quality and volume of the wizard..Is it 3D sound and loud ??
I like the wizard..It looks good too..But the only thing disappointing me is the processor..It has a 200mhz processor which is kinda slow as compared to the BA..The BA has 400 mhz processor..So do you ppl think the speed really differs?? And please let me know which one u all prefer me buying??
Thank you..
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Really thanks for replying..I think ill go for the K-jam.

I had a blue angel, a magician and now the Wizard.
I like the wizard very much.
Blue Angel:
Pros: quick, big screen, internal wifi (crap reception)
Cons: bulky, not comfortable in the pocket, heavy, keyboard not comfortable for lot's of typing - after a while I reverted back to the virtual keyboard, bluetooth worked TERRIBLE !!!! - lot's of noise and static - tried 3 different BA devices and 5 different BT headsets - all carp. No bluetooth voice dialing - major disadvantage. Not stable all the time, had to reset from time to time which irritated me. Terrible camera (!)
Magician:
Pros: lighter then the BA, size was reasonable, quick as the BA
Cons: no keyboard, small screen, bluetooth still crap, no BT voice dialing, no WM5, No wifi, bad camera, no so great handsfree speakerphone
Wizard:
Pros: acceptable size, great keyboard, wifi on board (802.11G - reception signal strength could be better - since i am comparing thr reception to the sandisk wifi card that i had for my magician), quad band, better camera, WM5, bluetooth FINALLY works as it should have all along which is GREAT !!!, very stable, practical and nice, good speakerphone, great sound!
Cons: I'm not sure if it's really that slower than the BA or Magician... however I'm disappointed by the CPU speed rating. Due to the mechanical design - all of the carrying cases in the market so far are a compromise - not great to say the least. Bad stylus concept, design and implementation.
So which one is the best so far?
The wizard. without a doubt.
Go for it.

TRADE - My Universal for your Wizard?

Am thinking of trading my Universal for someone's Wizard. Was wondering what you guys think of that.
Thoughts?
Offers?
Thanks!
Cyb

Do it and dont look back.
Main reason? EDGE compatibility. Especially as your in the US.
Only thing the Uni has that I want over and above the Wizard is VGA. But I can live with the tiny QVGA screen on the Wizard. The VGA screen is the main reason the Uni is so sluggish anyway, as it uses the processor as its video controller instead of a seperate VGA chip.
Cya
Stot

I suggest you check the Pocket PC forum on HowardForums.com first. Quite a few people are extremely unhappy with their Wizards, while owners of Universals seem rather happy.

You are stupid...
change a ferrari into a bmw (normal version)

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You are stupid...
change a ferrari into a bmw (normal version)
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well I'm definately getting opinions! keep 'em coming...
Cyb

Ferarri - BMW.. Not entirely true.
The Universal on its face is a good device. But once you start using it it has its annoyances that can outweigh the VGA screen, the only great thing it has going for it. It has a faster CPU but its impacted by the fact that the CPU is drawing 4 times the screen real estate which slows it down a LOT.
Ram/Rom is the same
Both have a QWERTY K/B
Both have Bluetooth
Both have 1.3MP camera.
Also be aware that in the US there is no 3G WCDMA network, there is 3G EDGE rolling out tho, so the Wiz can go 3G out here.
Oh and the Wiz has Wifi b and g and will be upgradeable via rom to e and i too. Universal is b only.
IMO the Universal is a little too fragile also. Not sure about the Wiz as i havent got it yet but its on its way and I had a play with it. its seemed to be more sturdy.
So. Its more like comparing a Ferarri towing a caravan, looks great fairly slick and fast engine bogged down, to a Caterham 7. Looks great, bit smaller, less powerfull engine, fairly robust, No caravan.
Cya
Stot

i had a Wizard for a couple of weeks. to be honest i loved it but i found the screen too small for easy reading of mail, spreadsheets, internet browsing etc. As a phone it is definitely preferable to the Universal BUT, from my humble point of view, the Universal is the best all rounder i've ever used - it's awesome. Also, once you've tweaked the Universal it's realy fast AND reliable and it does mean that for short journey's abroad i don't need to take my laptop. oh yeah, the Wizard uses mini SD which means you are limited to a 1GB storage card and if you like music, video etc that just ain't enough!
Mikey Mike

i had a Wizard for a couple of weeks. to be honest i loved it but i found the screen too small for easy reading of mail, spreadsheets, internet browsing etc. As a phone it is definitely preferable to the Universal BUT, from my humble point of view, the Universal is the best all rounder i've ever used - it's awesome. Also, once you've tweaked the Universal it's realy fast AND reliable and it does mean that for short journey's abroad i don't need to take my laptop. oh yeah, the Wizard uses mini SD which means you are limited to a 1GB storage card and if you like music, video etc that just ain't enough!
Mikey Mike

The Wizard has a keyboard.....all right.....BUT, it doesnt have a separate row for numbers (0-9). It shares it with the qwert... keys, and that's simply bad!
IMHO, i think this is a handicap, and is a bad limitation for a device which claims to have a native hw based keyboard...
S

ferrari and BMW?
Think not you are giving the wizard too much credit.
Main problems with the wizard: Too small, it is a stuck up mda compact.
The processor is downright slow.
You are living in the US so yeah, edge is the only option for the 3g network.
Still I think you should not just throw it away and get the wizard.
Furthermore if you do change it is a waste of your money, as the wizard is much cheaper then the universal.
Offcourse there are problems with the universal... what did you expect.
The universal uses vga, which is not supported yet. It uses wm5 too which is not highly compatible with known programs either.
I suggest you wait a while before you do something I am sure you will regret sooner or later.

Thanks!
I want to thank you guys for your responses... I have decided to keep my universal and just continue to use my Sierra Wireless VOQ as a back up when the Uni is TOO MUCH
Now... let's begin with a new ROM...
Thanks again...
Cyb

Im down with the trade!!

I would check your exec they are just as cheap. I dropped my orange variant and the case split open. I am unbiased as I have both and actually vga is supported nativly since wm 2003. So it is not a new thing manuafactures choose not to implement screens.
Wizard thogh a tad slower gets the job done, remeber the tortoise and the bunny. Besides have you actually looked at the benchmarks for the exec they are not that inspiring.
I guess I am British in that sense I am used to waiting, like British transport you will be waiting but it will get yo there though.

battery life
however the wizard is like a moped sipping vegetable oil compared with the universal like a mustang on premium gas when it comes to battery life...

Should I buy HTC Universal or Wait for Hermes?

Any advice from Universal owners would be welcome. I need an unlocked tri or quad band phone and I am ready to buy now. I see that Hermes has 2.0 mp camera which I read is a big improvement. I am not that interested in keyboards and have heard that hermes predecessor (magician?) had problems...so I am concerned about having a slide out keyboard that I do not need which might cause problems in future. The hermes has upgraded blue tooth and usb if I am not mistaken as well as EDGE? Universal has SD while hermes has mini sd.
Any suggestions from Universal owners if I should get my Unlocked Universal now or if I should wait for Hermes???
thanks
scott

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I am not that interested in keyboards and have heard that hermes predecessor (magician?) had problems...
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If you're not interested in keyboards, the Universal really shouldn't be a choice because it has the biggest keyboard of all HTC devices.
You say that you're ready to buy now, you can start with the Universal. If you don't like it, you could always sell it and get a Hermes when they come out. That's what I would do.

I understand that Keyboard is not on your priority list. However do consider the VGA screen on the uniersal. It is really the best screen I have ever seen. As I do a lot of net browsing a smaller QVGA screen is somewhat a deterrent for me.
Regards

thanks
Thanks all for advice. I have stage fright in making my purchase decision!! I am ready to buy now, but am now concerned that the Universal is already outdated....BUT the hermes wont be available as unlocked for some time....(you can probably understand how my last pocket pc was a phillips nino!!....I keep waiting for the best, and by the time it is available...there is a new best right around the corner!)
From your experience, is the universal a good machine? Will I have huge problems out of the box? Will I need ROM upgrade for it to work?? I am not a super techy guy (don't understand much about modifying these machines and am frankly afraid that I might mess it up) and this machine will need to last me for at least 5 years....I am not one to purchase the latest model each year....
Will I really miss all of the new additions present in the Hermes model?? such as 2.0 mp camera (reviews have said the 1.3 mp cam sucks), and all of the newer email capabilities edge? utms? Or do you think for a regular user that I won't miss them??
Some things that I want for sure:
Blue tooth STEREO phone and mp3 headset combo (so I can keep this brick stored in my bag and make and receive calls without it clipped to my belt all the time....and listen to mp3s in stereo....is this possible?
Voice commands from bluetooth headset...possible?
If there was an unlocked model similar to hermes available now without keypad...I would consider....but only thing I have seen is eten g500 with integrated gps...looks cool but only 1.3 mp camera and no wifi....so I do not see anything else available on market that is better than universal
thanks for any advice/experience you can offer
scott

srmz said:
I understand that Keyboard is not on your priority list. However do consider the VGA screen on the uniersal. It is really the best screen I have ever seen. As I do a lot of net browsing a smaller QVGA screen is somewhat a deterrent for me.
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I have to disagree with the screen part.
HX4700 has the best VGA screen IMO.

Chatbox said:
I have to disagree with the screen part.
HX4700 has the best VGA screen IMO.
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Let's not get off subject here. Yes, HX4700 has a really neat screen. However, it is not a phone.

what about prophet?
I have been reading about prophet...as a possible alternative to universal......I am worried that 200 mhz processor might be too slow for skype...one review said it was really slow.....but then another review said it was as fast as universal... has anyone used universal with voip or skype ...does it work ok??
Thanks for any comments.... is there a huge benefit to having universal's umts and 3G (most of my time is in america).....or would the prophet's (or Hermes) EDGE be seen by current universal owners as a big plus..and a better choice today...?
thanks again for the advice
scott

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scottshort said:
I have been reading about prophet...as a possible alternative to universal......I am worried that 200 mhz processor might be too slow for skype...one review said it was really slow.....but then another review said it was as fast as universal... has anyone used universal with voip or skype ...does it work ok??
Thanks for any comments.... is there a huge benefit to having universal's umts and 3G (most of my time is in america).....or would the prophet's (or Hermes) EDGE be seen by current universal owners as a big plus..and a better choice today...?
thanks again for the advice
scott
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Scott, currently 3G and UTMS, none of that stuff is avaliable here in the US. So if you spend a majority of your time here, it probably won't do you any good. EDGE will, but like I said it will only make a real noticable difference if you tether with a laptop and use it as a modem.
The 200mhz processor in the Prophet and Wizard series is a nice processor. For day to day usage, you probably won't even know that it's 200mhz. For Skype (If you use that feature a lot), I would steer away from the OMAP processor. I know some people say this and say that, in reality, it's really not a fast processer when coming down to run memory hogging big programs. The one thing I REALLY REALLY liked about the OMAP processor is how long those phones lasted on one charge. I can really use my Wizard all freak'n day and it would laugh at me. My Universal...that's a different story. :lol:

Question for People who have upgraded from Wizard to Hermes

How much faster is this new processor compared to the Wizards? Is noticably much faster, or not much?
Is it worth the upgrade?

yes it is, video streaming, usege of phone, bootup all faster but i must say t-mob rom has som glitches. not obvious but still there

The speed increase wasn't as fantastic as I had hoped, but it makes the device definitely more usable.
I'd say if you are a heavy user of the device and have the "Spare" cash, GET ONE, If not, wait for the next Vario III or whatever its gonna be called.

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How much faster is this new processor compared to the Wizards? Is noticably much faster, or not much?
Is it worth the upgrade?
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If you want to use Skype and 3G, then yes. Other not really. Don't get me wrong it is the best device for me, but unless you can get a good deal then as has been said already the speed difference isn't onticeable from the latest Wizard ROMs.

TyTN vs Wizaed? No Contest!!
C'mon guys you gotta be kidding!!??!!
The TyTN/VarioII/SPV 3100...and its other guises, is far superior to the Wizard, even with the latest ROM!
Compare:
Does the Wizard have a commendable 2MP camera worthy of taking on SE K750i?
Does the Wizard have A2DP & AKU2 out the box?
Does it Multitask like the TyTN without lag?
Is it as varied in operability i.e. one-handed navigation plus many buttons?
Does it have HSDPA compatibility?
Is the screen as bright and clear?
Does it even have 3G?
Can it Video call?
NO!
The Wizard is good an everything but the TyTN is Great in comparison. Just my 2 cents worth.

Aye but unless you're wanting to use 3G, want to run lots of apps or use the camera then it's not noticeable better than the Wizard. I still have to see the difference in speed between the latest Wizard ROMs and the TyTYN.
As I said it is better, but not worth taking out a new contract to run against your existing one like a lot of people are doing.

Allow me to step in with a related question: The 3rd party compatible battery charts from Hongkong manufacturers show the HTC batteries from the Wizard and Hermes to be compatible. Can you confirm this?

@Lucas0511
The batteries are completely different.
The Wizard one is much smaller than that of the Hermes.
See attached picture
Cheers,
Drifter

The Wizard was Okay, but not close to the Tytn. I found the Wizard keyboard (Qtek 9100) somewhat unusable, the annoyance of constantly hitting the camera button a nuisance, and the constant speed degredations because it was doing some housekeeping unacceptable, all of these issues are gone with the Tytn. The ability to use Skype on the phone, important to communicate overseas, and other features made this an easy choice. Plus, don't ask me how I did it, but broke the spring holding in the memory card on the Wizard, which made it ready for retirement.

The Vario is a Good Phone, The vario II is definitely a better phone, but the newer version is still very expensive SIM free at the moment and So in my opinion the bottom line is if you use it to its full potentional AND if you have the spare cash.
The Vario II isn't as brilliant as I would have hoped, the 400Mhz processor is FASTER, but you still see abit of lag which I wasn't expecting.
UMTS and HSPDA make the device MUCH faster for downloading, but its still quite slow with internet browsing.
The camera is better but not even in its wildest dreams can it take on the SE K750.
Video calling - How often do people use this ?
You also need to keep in mind that will the pace that phones are being developed and released that the Vario III is possibly going to be released within the next 12 months or less.
So, the bottom line I would say is ..... do you need it and have you got the money.

Hi all,
I've been running the Wizard for almost 9 months now - clocked at 264 MHz thanks to omapclock - without any problem.
I got a TyTN from my job at the end of July and could not see any noticeable difference in terms of latency or execution speed.
The battery lasts only 24 hours when I am under UMTS coverage (48h at least with the Wizard with Edge).
I seriously think I'll get back to the Wizard until a decent french ROM version is available :?
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HTC TyTN French (HERM200)
ROM: 1.18.256.2 (05/30/06) - ExtROM: 1.18.256.103
Radio: 1.03.03.10 - Proto: 32.34.7010.01H

I think i will stick with my Wizard for now. From what i have read on these forums and elsewhere, the differences, while nice, are not compelling enough for warrent the spend.
Thanks for you input.

I use Slingplayer. Will the tytn make a difference? I also live in Dallas where umts is active.

is there a better phone/pda

hi all looking at getting a trinity 3600 because i need stanalone gps, pda and a phone that takes my 3 sim card. just wondering b4 i take the plunge is there another phone that will meet my requirements that anybody thinks is better than the 3600 cheers

Other devices...
Well, the HTC Advantage can do all the same things, plus it has a VGA screen, but is a much more bulky device. The only other device I'm aware of that does all that the Trinity does is the Nokia N95. The Nokia has the advantage of a 5MP camera (only 2mp on the Trinity), but it doesn't run pocket PC (it's Symbian I think).
Other than that, I'm not aware of any others. The Trinity is a very good device, you'd be hard pushed to beat it!
Lee

but Advantage i read can only be used as a phone using a headset
it dont have a mic or something
polaris the upcomming replacement for Artemis but it's not out yet
another option could be Kaiser is another option if one is not bothered by the extre thickness the keyboard adds or even pref a keyboard

thanks for your replies the n95 i think you have to pay for the gps service I dont think it has a built in sirfstar 3 chipset or any alike so i would not go for that but i will have a look at the kaiser cheers

Yes, N95 runs Symbian, but no touchscreen. I've tried it a few days ago - much slower than my N73.

Other options
As of now the Trinity is one of the best PDA'a around.
Other phones that you can consider are the Asus P535/525 series and the Eten M700.
These phones have all the feature the Trinity has and then some more. Like all phones, the Trinity also has its fair share of problems.
I was about to buy the Trinity but holding out for the Kaiser, it has all the feature that I want in a phone.
Just my 2 cents worth.
Cheers,
Hiren

i'll wait for polaris or nike myself
dont want a slideout keyboard

polaris looks really good just took a look out in october ultra thin aswell says 3.5 in screen does that make the phone bigger than the mda 3 compact and is it defo 3g because it was the mda i wanted but only 2g

hi...
is there a better phone/pda? interesting question....
If you are using it mostly like a phone I wouldnt go for the trinity because of two issues:
* I need a quite strong GSM signal to get acceptable sound quality. People I call often complain about the quality of my voice when compared to a 'normal' phone. Maybe is my device, people in this forum say, but I tried some proposed remedies without success.
* Screen is nearly invisible outdoors on a sunny day
If you are using mostly PDA features, the trinity may be an interesting option. The rest of features work really well, specially GPS.
Beware a new (pricey) trinity version is to be released soon (or maybe already). Hopefully they solve these issues plus the paint peeling off thing. Then it would be the perfect phone.

Depends on what you value!
If you need the phone for business, don't get a PDA phone coz the reception is NOT 100% reliable...
What do you need the PDA for?
All in all, it might be better to get a TomTom GO, then a cheap phone with bluetooth that can connect to TomTom!
But as previously said, D810X is meant to be coming out, no idea when and how much though.

D810x is out in Australia as the HTC p3600i.

i think dell axim x51 is very good for gaming but it dont have a camera!

Polaris looks its gonna be great! I remember reading it only has 400mhz cpu :S