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Wizard v Blue Angel

Hi
Has anybody migrated from the XdaIIs, to the Wizard? is it worth it, or would it mean downgrading to something inferior?
I'm thinking about replacing my blue Angel by the Wizard, but i'm not sure if it's worth it.
Any views very very welcome!
Cheers

I migrate forom Dell X50v and Nokia 6630 on Qtek 9100. Nice! I wondeful!!!

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I migrate forom Dell X50v and Nokia 6630 on Qtek 9100. Nice! I wondeful!!!
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huh?
i'd rather have a wizard than a blue angel.. but i guess if you had a BA then it might not be that much different to justify the upgrade... maybe if the phone was free or cheap.

Wizard is smaller, compacter, keyboard is loads better, but the wizard is a lot slower

thanks - very helpful.
The wizard on TMobile UK is free on Web'n'walk 200, so that's fine.
Do you use avantgo or pocket informant on your wizard? Is it a problem with the slower processor speed?

I've just gone from a Blue Angel to a Wizard. Wizard is much better
Its a lot more reliable, feels much smaller and the keyboard is outstanding compared to the BA.
Just my opinion.
Lewis

BigDamHero wrote:
I've just gone from a Blue Angel to a Wizard. Wizard is much better
Its a lot more reliable, feels much smaller and the keyboard is outstanding compared to the BA.
Just my opinion.
Lewis
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Me too. Double ditto that..
Regards
Chris

I'm not sure where the lots slower comes from, because I find mine just as fast as my Mini, and the Mini has a faster processor than the IIs.
That is unless you install that crap at hard reset. I didn't, and have a clean device
On my device I have:
* TCPMP
* Total Commander
* PHM Regedit and PPC Plus
* SPB GPRS and Pocket Plus
* Opera Mini (MIDlet one)
* MS Stock Scramble (MS Games Pack)
* Monopoly
* Macromedia Flash ActiveX
* AvantGo 5.7
* Skype 1.2 Beta
* Agile Messenger (the free one)
* AE Uptime
* PocketRAR
I have all this installed on the internal ROM with 12.5Mb free.

I came from a PDA2k and think the Wizard is a much better device. As already stated it's seems to be a more reliable device. Much better keyboard. One handed browsing in landscape (with keyboard open) is also good. I don't really notice is being much slower, but maybe that's just me.

BA to wizard
was always very happy with teh BA (qtek 9090) except the way you have to soft reset every now and then (bless), the battery falls out whenever it wants to (less forgiveable) and the person on the other end of the phone can't hear you.
Oh, and it's like carrying a small brick, and I never use the slide out keyboard.
Do any Wizard users notice an improvement on any of these fronts, and does Tomtom 5 work ok (I assume it has a smaller screen than BA).
Many thanks

Hi pounana
Yes, all of those problems with the blue angel you note are fixed in the wizard, plus the bluetooth is light years better. ano conflicts wit wi fi either. as for tomtom, I am running 5.1 that I transferred form the supplied SD card to a mini SD that fits the wizard. Beyond the Tech on this forum has a Wizard blog with detailed install instructions. I was lucky though, as mine loaded and installed automatically no probs..
As for sceen, yes it is smaller, but very serviceable !
Hope that helps
Regards
chris

cbrow51 said:
BigDamHero wrote:
I've just gone from a Blue Angel to a Wizard. Wizard is much better
Its a lot more reliable, feels much smaller and the keyboard is outstanding compared to the BA.
Just my opinion.
Lewis
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Me too. Double ditto that..
Regards
Chris
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Same here...so far very good!!!

double double ditto supersized
This is what I wanted from a phone: something phone sized, that also had a good camera and usable PIM/comms functionality.
I considered the universal, but it's too big (like the BA is) so I'd not carry it everywhere. Consequently, as a phone, it failed...
The Wizard is the right formfactor for my phone... I like it.

Why should we not let jasjar get involved? :lol:
It got 2 camera's video conferencing, bigger and twistable screen, yeah yeah yeah.,
I wished i had a wizzard to, but i will not sell my BlueAngel to get one,
for only a better keyboard, and somewhat better camera :lol:
Maybe in the future i will get one, but i think their to expensive to buy right now,

Pimbo wrote:
Why should we not let jasjar get involved?
It got 2 camera's video conferencing, bigger and twistable screen, yeah yeah yeah.,
I wished i had a wizzard to, but i will not sell my BlueAngel to get one,
for only a better keyboard, and somewhat better camera
Maybe in the future i will get one, but i think their to expensive to buy right now,
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Well the reason may well be expalianed by your signature block... :wink:
I see you have a highly customised configuration that you probably spent hours (if not weeks and months like I did :lol: ) to get it to a state where you had decent functionality that was fairly stable.
Now take the wizard out of the box, charge the battery, switch it on and you have it right away, only better!! :wink:
Now I realise that I can never get all those "ROM cooking" hours back and some of it was really quite fun (in a masochistic kind of way :lol: ) but now it just works and I can get on with life!
Whatever floats your boat though... although I think us wizard owners are secretly starting to miss cooking our own ROMS already!!
Regards
Chris

Hello to all..
I am a newbie here and I really dont know anything about these pocketPC's..All i want to say is, I am crazy about mobiles and I hav my own mobile forum too for the Nokia. Currently I own a 6600 and 6630. I only use the Nokia S60. But this time, I wanna try out a PPC..I Really dont anything about PPC's..I will hav to learn from here..
I am really getting confused which one to buy..I want help frm you professionals..Shall i go for the Wizard or Blueangel??
I found dat wizard has 3 advantages over the BA
1)Camera
2)Keyboard
3)Weight and Looks
The only disadvantage of the wizard is the
1)processor speed
2)64MB RAM..whereas the blueangel has 128MB RAM
So we can say that the major disadvantage of the KJAM over the PDA2k is the speed of the phone and opening of applications..
Please let me know about the other advantages and disadvantages of the wizard over the blueangel.
Also tell me about the sound quality and volume of the wizard..Is it 3D sound and loud ??
I like the wizard..It looks good too..But the only thing disappointing me is the processor..It has a 200mhz processor which is kinda slow as compared to the BA..The BA has 400 mhz processor..So do you ppl think the speed really differs?? And please let me know which one u all prefer me buying??
Thank you..

Please help me in choosing the best one..and tell me the CONS and PROS of both over each other

I am currently running a ba with wm5 on it and really like it, but am thinking of getting a wizard too but for the edge technology. The processor worried me too until I did some reading. The TI Omap 850 is a dual core type processor, which should show no real speed diff from the 400mhz that is in the ba.
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uote="cyber_bilal"]Hello to all..
I am a newbie here and I really dont know anything about these pocketPC's..All i want to say is, I am crazy about mobiles and I hav my own mobile forum too for the Nokia. Currently I own a 6600 and 6630. I only use the Nokia S60. But this time, I wanna try out a PPC..I Really dont anything about PPC's..I will hav to learn from here..
I am really getting confused which one to buy..I want help frm you professionals..Shall i go for the Wizard or Blueangel??
I found dat wizard has 3 advantages over the BA
1)Camera
2)Keyboard
3)Weight and Looks
The only disadvantage of the wizard is the
1)processor speed
2)64MB RAM..whereas the blueangel has 128MB RAM
So we can say that the major disadvantage of the KJAM over the PDA2k is the speed of the phone and opening of applications..
Please let me know about the other advantages and disadvantages of the wizard over the blueangel.
Also tell me about the sound quality and volume of the wizard..Is it 3D sound and loud ??
I like the wizard..It looks good too..But the only thing disappointing me is the processor..It has a 200mhz processor which is kinda slow as compared to the BA..The BA has 400 mhz processor..So do you ppl think the speed really differs?? And please let me know which one u all prefer me buying??
Thank you..[/quote]

hdbueller said:
I am currently running a ba with wm5 on it and really like it, but am thinking of getting a wizard too but for the edge technology. The processor worried me too until I did some reading. The TI Omap 850 is a dual core type processor, which should show no real speed diff from the 400mhz that is in the ba.
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cyber_bilal said:
Hello to all..
I am a newbie here and I really dont know anything about these pocketPC's..All i want to say is, I am crazy about mobiles and I hav my own mobile forum too for the Nokia. Currently I own a 6600 and 6630. I only use the Nokia S60. But this time, I wanna try out a PPC..I Really dont anything about PPC's..I will hav to learn from here..
I am really getting confused which one to buy..I want help frm you professionals..Shall i go for the Wizard or Blueangel??
I found dat wizard has 3 advantages over the BA
1)Camera
2)Keyboard
3)Weight and Looks
The only disadvantage of the wizard is the
1)processor speed
2)64MB RAM..whereas the blueangel has 128MB RAM
So we can say that the major disadvantage of the KJAM over the PDA2k is the speed of the phone and opening of applications..
Please let me know about the other advantages and disadvantages of the wizard over the blueangel.
Also tell me about the sound quality and volume of the wizard..Is it 3D sound and loud ??
I like the wizard..It looks good too..But the only thing disappointing me is the processor..It has a 200mhz processor which is kinda slow as compared to the BA..The BA has 400 mhz processor..So do you ppl think the speed really differs?? And please let me know which one u all prefer me buying??
Thank you..
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Really thanks for replying..I think ill go for the K-jam.

I had a blue angel, a magician and now the Wizard.
I like the wizard very much.
Blue Angel:
Pros: quick, big screen, internal wifi (crap reception)
Cons: bulky, not comfortable in the pocket, heavy, keyboard not comfortable for lot's of typing - after a while I reverted back to the virtual keyboard, bluetooth worked TERRIBLE !!!! - lot's of noise and static - tried 3 different BA devices and 5 different BT headsets - all carp. No bluetooth voice dialing - major disadvantage. Not stable all the time, had to reset from time to time which irritated me. Terrible camera (!)
Magician:
Pros: lighter then the BA, size was reasonable, quick as the BA
Cons: no keyboard, small screen, bluetooth still crap, no BT voice dialing, no WM5, No wifi, bad camera, no so great handsfree speakerphone
Wizard:
Pros: acceptable size, great keyboard, wifi on board (802.11G - reception signal strength could be better - since i am comparing thr reception to the sandisk wifi card that i had for my magician), quad band, better camera, WM5, bluetooth FINALLY works as it should have all along which is GREAT !!!, very stable, practical and nice, good speakerphone, great sound!
Cons: I'm not sure if it's really that slower than the BA or Magician... however I'm disappointed by the CPU speed rating. Due to the mechanical design - all of the carrying cases in the market so far are a compromise - not great to say the least. Bad stylus concept, design and implementation.
So which one is the best so far?
The wizard. without a doubt.
Go for it.

Poll please vote: Would you purchase the P3600 again?

I am trying to figure out, which GPS Phone to purchase and I am hoping that you guys can give me some insides of your user experiences with the P3600.

After some further research, I am leaning towards the P3600 rather then Eten or Pharos.
This poll is starting to confirm that the users are pretty happy with the Trinity.

It looks that the majority is quite happy with the P3600 - good to know!
Now, if HTC starts shipping units with corrected paint jobs, then I am in for one and will retire the Prophet.

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It looks that the majority is quite happy with the P3600 - good to know!
Now, if HTC starts shipping units with corrected paint jobs, then I am in for one and will retire the Prophet.
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Who cares about some paint man!... I don't think any mobile phone that is put through daily use and abuse holds it's paint for very long...
It's about the tech inside; that's just awesome with this P3600 dude!

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Who cares about some paint man!... I don't think any mobile phone that is put through daily use and abuse holds it's paint for very long...
It's about the tech inside; that's just awesome with this P3600 dude!
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To me, this is a very important issue!
I take good care of my gadgets, so that I am able to sell my stuff and re-invest in new toys a year later - that is a normal cycle in my eyes.
I currently own a Prophet and even after a year of daily use, the device is in excellent condition and I am planing on selling it for $300 in order to be able to buy the P3600. So, if the P3600 looks like crap after two month of use, then this decreases the re-sell value, which poses a problem.
On the positive side though, the P3600 seems to be a great toy and the paint issue really is just a cosmetic problem (which I really, really hope they will fix very soon)

"So, if the P3600 looks like crap after two month of use, then this decreases the re-sell value, which poses a problem."
The paint problem is subjective, I also bough a black P3600, in november 06, I have a minimal paint problem, when I tried to show it to my sis she didn't even see it, but it is there, it peeled of because of the memory card cover, when I opened it it scraped(i think that's the right word) a little bit of the paint.
My glossy screen protector worries me more than that tiny piece of paint, I miss the shiny screen lol.

I would purchase the HTC P4500 (HTC Kaiser) or the HTC P5500 (HTC Nike), which are currently not yet available..
So I maybe would have wait till they were released before buying the P3600.
They both got gps, fm radio,...

Kaiser no FM radio.... but it's not correct compare p3600 with phones that not available at the moment

Svenitos said:
I would purchase the HTC P4500 (HTC Kaiser) or the HTC P5500 (HTC Nike), which are currently not yet available..
So I maybe would have wait till they were released before buying the P3600.
They both got gps, fm radio,...
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I like the look and specs of the Kaiser but I would not want to be the first one to go through a test cycle and subsequent bug fixes of a new released model.
The Nike is a smartphone right?

I see indeed that the Kaiser has no FM radio, weird, I thought I read somewhere it did..
Anyways, it has a built-in flash camera etc.
The Nike is a bit in between of pda and smartphone, I don't know what it really is.. It has a touchscreen, has a camera with built-in flash etc.
But if they wouldn't be releashed in the future, I would definately go for the P3600.

Let the future alone..
Making purchase choices, based on specs only, for machines that need months to come to market..... Get the real thing! By the time they are "stable" products, the P3600 would have been near 2 years in the market..... IMHO we, xda-dev readers, don't hold our machines that long...... just read most senior signatures....
Enjoy your 3600 as much as you can, this is TODAY the best PDA/PHONE/GPS/3G etc A-V-A-I-L-A-B-L-E

I really like my Trinity.
I've only had it for about 2 months now, but in general I'm very well pleased.
I hav't had any of the paintpeeling problems - I bought a white one and have put it in a silicon cover as I have a bit of a grip problem holding anything.
I did have a problem with a 4GB memory card, I kept a lot of media files ot it and Windows Media player wouldn't see the card and update its library. There are plenty of threads about that one and its easy sorted.
You can have a few problems with the GPS unless you manually configure the Comm port to 9 and the baud rate to 4800, after doing that, I get a valid fix withn 2 minutes, although the strength of the receiver is quite weak in comparrison to some other units and you can lose the fix. But hey, its a PDA not a garmin.
I am a bit dissapointed with video media playback, the trinity being a bit slow sometimes.
It has enough processing power for most things and is elatively fast enough.
the camera is decent for a PDA, way better than most phones.
Overall though - well reccomended, best PDA I've had so far. out of the 6 i've owned.

I think that my vote will change if HTC will not upgrate p3600 to WM 6. If so; I will never buy any HTC product in the future.

I have mixed feelings, I'm probably satisfied with it, but I'm not over the moon. I still feel it's quite slow for the apps that I need to run on it, and the RAM is a bit low too. In terms of the looks, it's pretty nice, I would like it to be a bit thinner but it's not that much of an issue.
If I had to get a device unconnected, I wouldn't have bought the Trinity, I probably would have waited about a month for something from the I-Mate Ultimate range...but the Trinity, aka M700 was the best thing I could find on UK Networks, which specifically has to be Orange for me anyway!

Best HTC Ever - Trinity ?

Hi....Just wondering, because my contract with o2 just finished and I was looking for a replacement for my XDA Mini S...and what's the best phone for me now . I'm looking for a 3G phone, with built in GPS, WiFi, fast processor and good looking one (for my pleasure only, not to show up ;p ), which fits into pocket and, and, and...I was thinking about XDA Orbit, XDA Trion maybe (no GPS, but 400 MHz, 3G etc)....but then, hey, HTC Trinity...Guys do you know, that you have probably the best phone ever made ? 3G, Video Calling, GPS, 400MHz (which can be overclocked - 500MHZ probably !), WiFi, great shape etc. 99% decided to get it with Orange now). Anyway just want to ask about some things...:
1. GPS. I'm using it a lot now (with my Mini S, external Bluetooth GPS). Found some threads about it, looks good, but if you can rate it - 1-10 please (does it loose the signal, reconnecting time etc, all together). And do you need to subscribe to any Orange GPRS packets etc. for using the GPS (like in Nokia N95, you need to pay £50/year to use build-in GPS) ? I'm gonna use different GPS software, not the one provided by Orange...
2. Battery drain. Practically. Cause I'v changed my Mini S ROM to a custom WM6 and the battery hold much, MUCH longer. Any problems with this phone ? Maybe not the phone, but software and how it handles the CPU and RAM usage (I'm gonna probably change the ROM to a custom WM6 anyway).
3. Are there any "-" of it, cause it looks great, as I said .
Thanks for any help.

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Hi....Just wondering, because my contract with o2 just finished and I was looking for a replacement for my XDA Mini S...and what's the best phone for me now . I'm looking for a 3G phone, with built in GPS, WiFi, fast processor and good looking one (for my pleasure only, not to show up ;p ), which fits into pocket and, and, and...I was thinking about XDA Orbit, XDA Trion maybe (no GPS, but 400 MHz, 3G etc)....but then, hey, HTC Trinity...Guys do you know, that you have probably the best phone ever made ? 3G, Video Calling, GPS, 400MHz (which can be overclocked - 500MHZ probably !), WiFi, great shape etc. 99% decided to get it with Orange now).
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It was pretty good until this came along!
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/05/24/htc-kaiser-unboxing/#more-931

boz said:
It was pretty good until this came along!
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2007/05/24/htc-kaiser-unboxing/#more-931
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that is..if you like slideout keyboards . otherwise the Trinity is one of the best devices produced by HTC (in my opinion).

Yes, I agree.... except for the lack of a macro function on its camera (à la HTC Prophet) the Trinity is a very competent all-rounder

After much searching since my First Trinity was run over by a car, I ordered one more - a white one. Nothing else has all of the features that are important to me. I actually hoped to find a new device that fit my needs but there is still nothing else!
Having said that, I was not happy with the black coating peeling TWICE. Sent it in for repair and it peeled again.
Ordered white. I have a black case to hide my shame.

It's the best looking HTC phone.

>>After much searching since my First Trinity was run over by a car, I ordered one more - a white one. Nothing else has all of the features that are important to me. I actually hoped to find a new device that fit my needs but there is still nothing else!
Where did you find a white one? Did it come with the GPS active?

Smart Mobile Gadgets got one (or more) in. Got it today. The white is pretty cool. I don't like it as much as my black one but it isn't an eyesore like I thought it might be.
It has a ROM dated in March 07. GPS active and Tom Tom CD in the box. I have 64 Mb free mem and it won't install. I'll figure that out later

Its the best PDA I've owned.
Looks good, nice size and most importantly works well.
Mine can be a littleslowwith some applications, but #I think the problem is due to the type of mini SD card I've installed my applications on.
The GPS function is great. Once you tweak it a bit, it will work as well as any of the stand alone devices.
Only downside is that HTC and the service providers are looking very reticent about issuing a Windows Mobile 6 Rom.

XDA Flame
If or when this comes out I think it could be a great handset ... apart from that I really like my M700, apart from the fiddling around to get Phonepad back, much better than my old M500

1. GPS works a dream. Was a bit worried about the Qualcomm chip - but despite it being apparently less sensitive than a SIRF III I get great results and have never had a problem. TTTF 2 mins maximum. You do not need subscriber services for GPS to work. although A-GPS is network dependent (quicker fix by downloading satellite info from your GSM provider). I recommend Tomtom - it's the best I've tried - and as long as you have 6.0.3 it recognizes the interal GPS as Internal GPS device instead of other NMEA device. 2.Battery drain not a problem - especially since the WM6 cooked ROMs for trinity have come out - a dream! 3. Only plusses for the Trinity. Especially if you get it from Orange (white) coz the only - about the Trinity is the paint peeling issue - which can be resolved like this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=307949. Go get yourself a Trinity today!

I still own a HTC Prophet and got a Treo 750v a few weeks ago.
The Prophet has a lot of things that I really like and the Trinity has the same specs, with a faster processor and GPS off course..
But what I like about the Treo is that it handles the phone functions superb! As well as ergonimics of the device.
The only thing I really miss is the options to tweak my device as much as you can with the Prophet/Trinity. I guess that this is caused by the facted that Palm is aiming at real business users and HTC is aiming at a more general market.
So if my Prophet died and I would have to buy a similar device I'd choose the Trinity without a doubt, but for now the Treo wins this match as far as I'm concerned

Thanks for your answers...anyway decided to get O2 XDA Orbit instead and wait for something with some more RAM . Gonna get it on Monday, play around....and who knows, maybe I'll switch back to Trinity.

Where to after Hermes

My contract runs out next month. I was confident I would go straight onto a Kaiser, but I have just seen the touch cruise !!! decisions decisons
Which way are the ROM cookers going to jump? I have to say the hard work of those guys really brought the best out of my hermes.

there are rom cookers for most of the devices
i would guess the cookers who pref keyboard will go kaiser
and others will go tc

Haha... I think I'd have to get another Hermes if mine ever died.
I don't like the shoddy video performance on the Kaiser, it's also not quite clear to me if the Kaiser can be folded out flat, which is far more useful if you aren't at a desk than the 'pop-up' motion. Also, I use a bluetooth Sirf Star 3, which is infinitely better than the crappy built-in GPS on the Kaiser.

The Kaiser (and my hermes) just seems to be beginning to feel just a little too bulky !

I'm sticking with the Hermes for awhile ...
I'm sticking with my Hermes for awhile too!
1. I already have a Garmin GPS 10 (Bluetooth), so I really don't need the GPS of a Kaiser. I run Garmin Mobile XT (& BeelineGPS) from my SD card, so space isn't an issue either. And this is all more than accurate enough for my Geocaching adventures!
2. I have a 2 gig microSD (soon to be upgraded to 4 or 6 GB), so I really don't need the extra memory of the Kaiser (especially with these memory freeing ROMs - thanks to our ROM Chefs!) Even with my GPS maps, I still have plenty of room on my microSD.
3. I just recently went from carrying a Motorola RAZR, Dell Axim X50v and Bluetooth Keyboard ... to carrying only the AT&T 8525 (a.k.a. Hermes 100). So, I'm still enjoying carrying only 1 device.
4. True it's sort of large, but not as much space as 2 devices. Besides, it's not that bad when I use the leather belt holster or place it in the hidden pocket of my Docker's Mobile pants (part of Docker's premium line - so I can wear them at work). It's small enough that it doesn't bulge out on my leg, so it truly remains hidden!
5. Also, as far as size goes, if the keyboard/thumbboard was any smaller, I think it would loose it usefulness.
6. With all of our cooked ROMs, we're getting all sorts of software-based advantages of newer models. Why pay more $$$ for the same stuff?
Maybe I should be a salesman for HTC?

sbetts000 said:
My contract runs out next month. I was confident I would go straight onto a Kaiser, but I have just seen the touch cruise !!! decisions decisons
Which way are the ROM cookers going to jump? I have to say the hard work of those guys really brought the best out of my hermes.
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If you used your Hermes for video playback and want to continue doing so with your new device then you'd better steer clear of any of HTC's devices using the Qualcomm 7200 and 7500 chipsets!

Why ditch your phone just cause your contract is running out? Pay month to month and keep your Hermes!

I'm in same situation as you. However I'm going to hold out for the sony ericsson x1.

I went into o2 on thursday to see if i wanted to get out a contract for a kaiser.
saw the phone picked it up and the screen was abit loose.. wobbling when flat on the keypad. I had also read about the issues with drivers / choppy graphics and that was the decider.. i walked straight back out and got a hermes, and imo it feels alot better and more secure than the kaiser. so i would wait until they revise the design of the kaiser or something.

I'd have to agree that the few advantages of the Kaiser are not enough for me to trade in my Hermes. The video issues alone are incredibly crippling...I watch alot of video on my Hermes and to have to fight with video drivers on a $600+ device is unforgivable.
The Kaiser does have a 3.0MP camera, but the default camera drivers on HTC phones has always been ****. Cool Camera's software give much more control and was the software that took the photos from my Hermes from looking so-so to being very nice. I could only guess that the Kaiser's camera could only look even better running Cool Camera software on it.
The GPS issue isn't much of an issue for me. I don't use GPS too often, but it would be nice to have it built in rather than to have to get out the Bluetooth unit.
The tilting keyboard I've yet to be able to see as very useful. I don't put my phone on a table and peck away at my keyboard...I hold it and type with my thumbs. However, I could see it as being slick for watching videos.
But even with all that, I don't want to drop all that money for a phone that does the same thing mine does, just slightly better. A tilting keyboard, slightly better camera, and built in GPS simply aren't enough to warrant the cash required for a Tilt.
Even though it is being somewhat of a traitor around here, it was the Kaiser's lack of large enough advancements that caused to pick up an unlocked iPhone rather than a Kaiser. I figured I would have the Hermes with all of its Windows Mobile bad ass-ness, and the iPhone for music and video.
...and then Slide 2 Play with coverflow comes out two weeks later. Go figure. There went my reason for the iPhone. ; )

Is it worth trading Hermes up for Kaiser?

Yes, I have searched the forums and up to this point I'm looking for something more specific into my situation, more like word of wisdom from whomever have had both devices for practical usage. And I don't have the luxury to keep both.
What I love about the Hermes that's not found in Kaiser are flash light, IrDa, and comm manager button. On the other hand Hermes is missing GPS, bigger memory, the "possibility" of having hardware accelerated graphics, supposedly better camera, tilting hinges, and in my particular case front camera (I'm using 8525 and there's no _practical_ solution to put the front camera in and if I were to get Kaiser it better be NOT AT&T tilt that has no front camera as well).
I'm afraid I'll be missing Hermes exclusive features if I switch to Kaiser, even though I don't use those features too often. It is however very tempting especially the built in GPS feature (yes I have followed the hidden GPS thread and struck down by the bad news that we can't practically revive the chip in Hermes).
I'd like to hear a word of advice or two from you guys please.

Hmm,
Difficult one this. When i first heard of the Kaiser I was all setup to swap my TyTN for a new device. Then I started to read the Kaiser forum and got wind of all the deficiencies there are with the kit.
Bottom line is I decided to stick with the TyTN, not only because of its features but because it is so customisable and there is shedloads available for it on here and elsewhere.
I have never seen the lack of a built in GPS as an issue. I have a separate receiver attached to my car keys. Whenever I am out and want to use a navigation tool on the TyTN, I simply switch on the external GPS unit and off we go. Simple.
Until some of the known issues are resolved with the Kaiser then its not on my list. You probably want to pose this question in the Kaiser forum as well to see what their views are.
Hope this helps.
WB

First of All when you Upgrade the ROM with this forum customized ROMs you will lost the warranty of your new device (Kaisar) and as usually the warranty last for one year you have to wait that long. If you are not planning to change the ROM then its a good practice to change the mood and taste every year but only if you got enough money. Because these type of devices don't return much on selling or trade-in facility. I was planning the same but now I realise that I only need a Windows based device for my information to be organized and not new the functionality or more ram matters. Well I am thinking to go for HTC Touch Diamond when it will be launched in my area.

Good question, cyberblue. I have kinda been in the same boat as you. I have recently qualified for a 'reduced-price' upgrade ($299) through the new Cingular, and was toying with the idea myself.
But after reading up on all the issues with Kaiser, and realizing that I am finally comfortable with my array of software, my setup, my customizations, my abilities to tweak the ROM myself, and other comforts, I find no need to spend any extra money. I just don't think the 'advances' made in ANY device thus far do not justify switching.
That's MY take, even though I have not owned both.
-pvs

By destiny's randomness, I have both devices. You might be surprised, but I am using the Hermes. Why? Here's why:
- I really like the flashlight, which is not present on the Kaiser.
- Duttys ROM have Internet Call that works thru the front speaker, the same you use to make calls through the cellular network. On the Kaiser, I could not make it work that way, only thru the rear speaker. Since I use VoIP a lot, it is very convenient to switch between cell and voip.
- I also use WebCamera Plus, that currently has a video cropping problem on the Kaiser. On the Hermes, works like a charm.
- Is nice to have a remote control everywhere, using NoviRemote.
- The Hermes doesn't weight as much as the Kaiser.
- My personal experience is that the battery of the Hermes lasts longer.
Obviously, what I miss of the Kaiser is:
- The embedded GPS: one good practical app for this is VitoFindMe. This cannot be done with an external GPS, at least not in a practical way.
- Tilt screen. For watching videos, it adds a lot of comfort.
- The 3 mp camera and better photos overall. The photos of the Hermes look more like your typical cell phone camera. The Kaiser ones are almost the quality of a dedicated digital camera.
- I like the stylus a bit more. The telescopic stylus of the Hermes is a bit awkward.
- It is a bit smaller in size.
What is not an issue for me is:
- The Kaiser doesn't have commcenter button, but you can access it by long pressing the send button.
- The bigger memory of the Kaiser. I install almost everything on my 8 gb card, so memory is not an issue on the Hermes.
Thats my humble opinion. Cya.

i also have both and personally i think if it wasnt for the gps and the extra rom and ram it wouldnt be worth a second thought i love my kaiser but its a labor of love. if you really want to know what your getting into read all the radio and rom compatibility issues with one you might not get sound another and youve got no camera. and the tilt screen only comes in handy for videos but the hermes trashes the kaiser when it comes to any task that involves graphics. that being said i jumped at the chance to get one and would do it again plus the new roms really make a difference now i can play most snes games

Thanks a lot for all your insights guys, I have a strong feeling I'll stick with my Hermes. I'll try to post in the Kaiser forum just to see if anybody there has traded their Hermes for Kaiser and whether they regret it