Yes, I have searched the forums and up to this point I'm looking for something more specific into my situation, more like word of wisdom from whomever have had both devices for practical usage. And I don't have the luxury to keep both.
What I love about the Hermes that's not found in Kaiser are flash light, IrDa, and comm manager button. On the other hand Hermes is missing GPS, bigger memory, the "possibility" of having hardware accelerated graphics, supposedly better camera, tilting hinges, and in my particular case front camera (I'm using 8525 and there's no _practical_ solution to put the front camera in and if I were to get Kaiser it better be NOT AT&T tilt that has no front camera as well).
I'm afraid I'll be missing Hermes exclusive features if I switch to Kaiser, even though I don't use those features too often. It is however very tempting especially the built in GPS feature (yes I have followed the hidden GPS thread and struck down by the bad news that we can't practically revive the chip in Hermes).
I'd like to hear a word of advice or two from you guys please.
Hmm,
Difficult one this. When i first heard of the Kaiser I was all setup to swap my TyTN for a new device. Then I started to read the Kaiser forum and got wind of all the deficiencies there are with the kit.
Bottom line is I decided to stick with the TyTN, not only because of its features but because it is so customisable and there is shedloads available for it on here and elsewhere.
I have never seen the lack of a built in GPS as an issue. I have a separate receiver attached to my car keys. Whenever I am out and want to use a navigation tool on the TyTN, I simply switch on the external GPS unit and off we go. Simple.
Until some of the known issues are resolved with the Kaiser then its not on my list. You probably want to pose this question in the Kaiser forum as well to see what their views are.
Hope this helps.
WB
First of All when you Upgrade the ROM with this forum customized ROMs you will lost the warranty of your new device (Kaisar) and as usually the warranty last for one year you have to wait that long. If you are not planning to change the ROM then its a good practice to change the mood and taste every year but only if you got enough money. Because these type of devices don't return much on selling or trade-in facility. I was planning the same but now I realise that I only need a Windows based device for my information to be organized and not new the functionality or more ram matters. Well I am thinking to go for HTC Touch Diamond when it will be launched in my area.
Good question, cyberblue. I have kinda been in the same boat as you. I have recently qualified for a 'reduced-price' upgrade ($299) through the new Cingular, and was toying with the idea myself.
But after reading up on all the issues with Kaiser, and realizing that I am finally comfortable with my array of software, my setup, my customizations, my abilities to tweak the ROM myself, and other comforts, I find no need to spend any extra money. I just don't think the 'advances' made in ANY device thus far do not justify switching.
That's MY take, even though I have not owned both.
-pvs
By destiny's randomness, I have both devices. You might be surprised, but I am using the Hermes. Why? Here's why:
- I really like the flashlight, which is not present on the Kaiser.
- Duttys ROM have Internet Call that works thru the front speaker, the same you use to make calls through the cellular network. On the Kaiser, I could not make it work that way, only thru the rear speaker. Since I use VoIP a lot, it is very convenient to switch between cell and voip.
- I also use WebCamera Plus, that currently has a video cropping problem on the Kaiser. On the Hermes, works like a charm.
- Is nice to have a remote control everywhere, using NoviRemote.
- The Hermes doesn't weight as much as the Kaiser.
- My personal experience is that the battery of the Hermes lasts longer.
Obviously, what I miss of the Kaiser is:
- The embedded GPS: one good practical app for this is VitoFindMe. This cannot be done with an external GPS, at least not in a practical way.
- Tilt screen. For watching videos, it adds a lot of comfort.
- The 3 mp camera and better photos overall. The photos of the Hermes look more like your typical cell phone camera. The Kaiser ones are almost the quality of a dedicated digital camera.
- I like the stylus a bit more. The telescopic stylus of the Hermes is a bit awkward.
- It is a bit smaller in size.
What is not an issue for me is:
- The Kaiser doesn't have commcenter button, but you can access it by long pressing the send button.
- The bigger memory of the Kaiser. I install almost everything on my 8 gb card, so memory is not an issue on the Hermes.
Thats my humble opinion. Cya.
i also have both and personally i think if it wasnt for the gps and the extra rom and ram it wouldnt be worth a second thought i love my kaiser but its a labor of love. if you really want to know what your getting into read all the radio and rom compatibility issues with one you might not get sound another and youve got no camera. and the tilt screen only comes in handy for videos but the hermes trashes the kaiser when it comes to any task that involves graphics. that being said i jumped at the chance to get one and would do it again plus the new roms really make a difference now i can play most snes games
Thanks a lot for all your insights guys, I have a strong feeling I'll stick with my Hermes. I'll try to post in the Kaiser forum just to see if anybody there has traded their Hermes for Kaiser and whether they regret it
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Hey everyone,
I currently have a Wizard and am very happy with it. I am extremely tempted to buy a at&t 8525 just cause I have a huge amount of money to play with right now, and I would like to know what everyone thinks of their phones. Do you like it? What are your favorite ROMs? How is the battery life? Camera? Speed? etc etc. Please post something of a mini review. Much appreciated.
-Nstefanelli-
well, i love mine, the 3G and large keyboard buttons were a seller for me and my huge thumbs.
not a very detailed reply but thats my 2 quick cents
I've had little but problems with the Cingular and AT&T ROMs. I thought for a while that I had a defective phone, but it turns out they just don't know how to program well. If you do get it, just make sure you unlock the thing and get a better ROM.
I have used PocketPC phones for a very long time.
I had some really old one that I don't even remember what brand it was.
I also had a Hitachi G1000 and a Blue Angel.
I also have an 8125 (wizard) that is still in use.
The 8525 is the best, hands down. The main drawback would be that case seems the least rugged out of them all, but this might just be a perception issue -- it's smaller than the others and the battery door seems far too flimsy for its own good. However, there are hard plastic snap-on skins available for just a few dollars on ebay which eliminate this problem -- though these of course make the 8525 a little bigger.
The other drawback would be the MicroSD card slot. MicroSD is a BAD IDEA. These cards are far too small. My biggest fear is having the card pop out when I'm out and about and never being able to find the card again. If you make a device that uses a memory chip that is the size of a fingernail, you really need a door over it. Or, better yet, don't design devices that use them and let MicroSD die quiety....
Otherwise, the 8525 is nicer than the others in every measurable way. It's not much smaller than the 8125/Wizard, but it is more rounded so it feels smaller. I use the 8525 far more than I ever used the other devices, and as you can tell I've been sold on the technology for a good while.
Amazon had 8525s for $99 and $149 for a few weeks with a new plan or a renewed plan if you're eligible to renew. Totally unbeatable price.
Hi. I've been lurking here for a couple of weeks. I had checked the boards here for "real life" use of the 8525 before actually getting my own. Then I started watching for devices on eBay. Then one Saturday morning, I lucked out and was able to get a *really* !! great deal on a refurb from AT&T with a 2-year plan. The phone I got did not have the new ROM and - from what I've read - not so sure I'm going to upgrade until the WM6 comes out.
Having had the opportunity to play with it for 2 weeks, I really love the device. This is my first PDA phone, and use of the PPC platform - having come from the world of Palm OS devices. I'm a gadget freak, and this one has kept me up nights downloading new apps, playing, deleting apps, performing backups, and ultimate resets. I've hard reset the phone at least 3 times so far.
Not having played with other PDA phones, my biggest complaint is the internal memory - or lack thereof. I've encountered a couple of low memory issues, even though the few extra apps I was running were installed on the MicroSD. Wi-fi has been testy - it seems to find networks when I don't need them, but fails to find and/or connect when they are available (i.e., my office).
All in all, I love the 8525. And, am looking forward to more good things to come.
dKaye
I have come close to throwing this thing out the windows so many times
So many problems with mine. Freezes about once an hour. If not more. Randomly freezes. Sometimes it'll freeze when it's in standby mode in the case so I end up missing calls and emails and everything. WTF.
I have installed (most on my 2 gig card - ex. for SPB Shell, PP, PS, Diary and GPRS Monitor):
SPB Mobile Shell
SPB Pocket Plus
SPB Phone Suite
SPB Diary
SPB GPRS Monitor
SPB Pocket PC Tips and Tricks
SPB Air Islands
SPB Backup
Google Maps
Windows Live
Microsoft Live Search
PHM Registry Editor
Blue Point Studios Pocket Earth
DIVX Inc DivXPlayer
PhatWare PhatPad
NoviMedia NR Deluxe
Resco Picture Viewr Sync Module
Resco Photo Viewer
Resco Today Plugin
Resco FTP Add-in
Resco Explorer
Microsoft .NET 2.0
Aspecto Software WiFiFoFum
TomTom Navigator 6
Microsoft Voice Command
e-mobile Pocket Streamer
e-mobile HandiTV
Pocket Mechanic
Blackberry Service Connect
Webcamera Plus
Landware Shanghai
Landware Shanghai Tilesets
Landware Shanghai Music
Come to think of it... I think it's just really bloated with too much stuff?
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Hey everyone,
I currently have a Wizard and am very happy with it. I am extremely tempted to buy a at&t 8525 just cause I have a huge amount of money to play with right now, and I would like to know what everyone thinks of their phones. Do you like it? What are your favorite ROMs? How is the battery life? Camera? Speed? etc etc. Please post something of a mini review. Much appreciated.
-Nstefanelli-
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After initially being enthusiastic about it, am getting more and more negative about my Hermes.
- the functionality is excellent, but that comes from WM 5/6 not from Hermes.
- the design (shape and color) looks somehow cheap - but that's of course a a matter of taste, other ppl might love it
- the manufacturing quality is miserable, absolutely cheapest plastic parts of any PDA/phone in this price category you can buy these days,
- the sliding mechanism is worn out (if not loosing its hold entirely) after a very short while.
- I suffer from the screen alignment issue + weird colors and fading white screen, The screen is fading, and if you touch certain points on the frame, you get weired artefacts, and such stuff.
- the camera is bad, it's not only that auto-focus is missing or that it has only 2 Mega, other build in cameras with the same specs deliver far better quality.
I see the Hermes based on an excellent idea, but cheaply designed and at least partially of shoddy quality .
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I have come close to throwing this thing out the windows so many times
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yep, considering the "official" price for an unlocked one without a carrier contract, Hermes is not a good buy.
nstefanelli said:
Hey everyone,
I currently have a Wizard and am very happy with it. I am extremely tempted to buy a at&t 8525 just cause I have a huge amount of money to play with right now, and I would like to know what everyone thinks of their phones. Do you like it? What are your favorite ROMs? How is the battery life? Camera? Speed? etc etc. Please post something of a mini review. Much appreciated.
-Nstefanelli-
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I have the Hermes..but if I was you, I would go for the HTC Kaiser! That will be my next device!
i really like it specially coz there are so many roms to put on it and ways to upgrade it.
furthermore, the people making them are ace and are so easy to use, unlike the other HTC machines which are less popular and their upgrades can be still confusing at times.
i really like this phone!
Moving from the Wizard to the Hermes was the best decision I have made in ages.
The Processor is faster and browsing is 10x faster
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I have the Hermes..but if I was you, I would go for the HTC Kaiser! That will be my next device!
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yep, Hermes is almost history. Softbank, for example, will stop selling it soon. There are better devices, from HTC but also other manufacturers now in the market.
I have to say it's the best phone I have ever had. Featurewise it is brilliant and I have never had any problems that I didn't cause myself .
In terms of it's build, well i dropped it onto a hard concrete surface from about 2 meters last week (it was one of those moments where the world seems to suddenly drop into slow-motion) and all that happened was a couple of scratches and the battery cover flying off. I just clicked it back on and all was fine.
All that said, I would probably be looking at the HTC Kaiser now which has the built in GPS and thinner size. Anyway, just throwing in my 2 cents. Hope it helps
I agree with Dinty. The best device I ever owned so far. The flexibility of the the device is amazing.
The device is just terrible. I keep having problems with the screen alignment.
I even replaced the device with a completely new screen, but to no avail.
With the new screen, the aligntment issue is a little bit less worse. Alot of times I can't close applications with the close button. It just seems unresponsive. The funny thing is, when I either re-align the screen, or click the start button once, I can close the application.
My girlfriend has the same device, and is also having the same problems.
We both have the 3.0 Black WM6 ROM.
I originally bought this as a business tool. However if I had my time again I would think twice before buying one.
Apart from the software lockups which have taken me the best part of 6 months to resolve, I now find that the quality of the product is questionable.
The stylus head fell off the other day (my second) and now stylii simply slide in and out without the ability to extend as you could do when new. So you get the situ where you slide the stylus out, then have to struggle to physically extend it before you use it. I now carry a non collapsible item in my pocket rather than go through this palaver.
As an innovative idea the Tytn is a great one; however its execution in a number of areas is rather poor.
WB
hi all looking at getting a trinity 3600 because i need stanalone gps, pda and a phone that takes my 3 sim card. just wondering b4 i take the plunge is there another phone that will meet my requirements that anybody thinks is better than the 3600 cheers
Other devices...
Well, the HTC Advantage can do all the same things, plus it has a VGA screen, but is a much more bulky device. The only other device I'm aware of that does all that the Trinity does is the Nokia N95. The Nokia has the advantage of a 5MP camera (only 2mp on the Trinity), but it doesn't run pocket PC (it's Symbian I think).
Other than that, I'm not aware of any others. The Trinity is a very good device, you'd be hard pushed to beat it!
Lee
but Advantage i read can only be used as a phone using a headset
it dont have a mic or something
polaris the upcomming replacement for Artemis but it's not out yet
another option could be Kaiser is another option if one is not bothered by the extre thickness the keyboard adds or even pref a keyboard
thanks for your replies the n95 i think you have to pay for the gps service I dont think it has a built in sirfstar 3 chipset or any alike so i would not go for that but i will have a look at the kaiser cheers
Yes, N95 runs Symbian, but no touchscreen. I've tried it a few days ago - much slower than my N73.
Other options
As of now the Trinity is one of the best PDA'a around.
Other phones that you can consider are the Asus P535/525 series and the Eten M700.
These phones have all the feature the Trinity has and then some more. Like all phones, the Trinity also has its fair share of problems.
I was about to buy the Trinity but holding out for the Kaiser, it has all the feature that I want in a phone.
Just my 2 cents worth.
Cheers,
Hiren
i'll wait for polaris or nike myself
dont want a slideout keyboard
polaris looks really good just took a look out in october ultra thin aswell says 3.5 in screen does that make the phone bigger than the mda 3 compact and is it defo 3g because it was the mda i wanted but only 2g
hi...
is there a better phone/pda? interesting question....
If you are using it mostly like a phone I wouldnt go for the trinity because of two issues:
* I need a quite strong GSM signal to get acceptable sound quality. People I call often complain about the quality of my voice when compared to a 'normal' phone. Maybe is my device, people in this forum say, but I tried some proposed remedies without success.
* Screen is nearly invisible outdoors on a sunny day
If you are using mostly PDA features, the trinity may be an interesting option. The rest of features work really well, specially GPS.
Beware a new (pricey) trinity version is to be released soon (or maybe already). Hopefully they solve these issues plus the paint peeling off thing. Then it would be the perfect phone.
Depends on what you value!
If you need the phone for business, don't get a PDA phone coz the reception is NOT 100% reliable...
What do you need the PDA for?
All in all, it might be better to get a TomTom GO, then a cheap phone with bluetooth that can connect to TomTom!
But as previously said, D810X is meant to be coming out, no idea when and how much though.
D810x is out in Australia as the HTC p3600i.
i think dell axim x51 is very good for gaming but it dont have a camera!
Polaris looks its gonna be great! I remember reading it only has 400mhz cpu :S
Hey guys! I am an avid reader of this forum and i was just wondering.....i'm looking to upgrade to another HTC phone. I currently have the wizard and i LOVE it! Just curious as to which HTC phone i should upgrade to, Are any of them as "open source" (for lack of a better term) as the wizard? As far as the community and the custom roms go? Any suggestions?
I was looking at the Tilt? is that a good choice?
Also, when i am buying one is there anything to watch out for like there is with the wizard? Like the G3 and G4 versions
TYTN 2 !!!!
Hmmm....i've kinda spent the last few hours just browsing through the forums on the newer phones, apparently there is some kind of video driver issue with the Kaiser....should i wait for maybe the touch cruise?
I will second XabdullahX's vote of the TYTN 2!!!
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Hmmm....i've kinda spent the last few hours just browsing through the forums on the newer phones, apparently there is some kind of video driver issue with the Kaiser....should i wait for maybe the touch cruise?
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I also vote that the Kaiser/Tilt/Tytn II is the way to go (I bought the Tilt and am loving it). Its a little different with the key layout than the wizard. I'm getting more used to everything being around the D Pad, but at first I didn't care for this (I still have to be careful not to hang up on a call when trying to press the right soft key). The phone has a ton of memory and is fast.
What you've been reading about in the Kaiser forums on the video driver is that the phone is capable of so much more, but HTC isn't using the proper drivers. What it does do is still very good, and personally I'm very happy with it and feel it was money WELL spent... Supposedly a media player app (don't recall which offhand but its a commercial one) is coming out with a new version that has fixed drivers or something in it. A lot of people are waiting to get their hands on this to see if they can use that to improve some other things.
So if you are a heavy watcher of movies or high performance games, you may want to evaluate the Kaiser/Tilt/Tytn II a little more. But for the majority of the uses of a PPC, its a fantastic phone...
OK, not to brag, but I have my Tilt fully loaded right now with Dutty's 7b ROM and a lot of apps (almost everything I have loaded into the phone's memory and not to my storage card). I have 85MB of free storage memory and 55MB of RAM free. HUGE change compared to the Wizard where you are trying to eek out every bit of space by cramming everything on your SD card and not having but a couple of apps open at a time to conserve precious RAM...
Yep, the Kaiser it is, or if you dont need a keyboard the Polaris.
Surur
I like the kaiser a lot too, but from personal experience, they have some issues with these devices. Hardware and software related. In particular, the BT Stack seems to um, SUCK big time. A couple of my friends had them (Tilts) and they both had horrible BT performance. Either they couldn't connect to certain Headsets/Car Kits or they couldn't walk five feet away from the device while connected without a bunch of static. These are common problems.
I'm waiting to see if they announce some kind of fix for that. It may just be the Tilt versions - not really sure, but BT stack issues are major to me. I always use BT.
apart from the fm radio and no keyboard and screen the cruse is pretty much the same hardware as kaiser so unless that suffer from the same driver issue as kaiser
only the keyboard thing should be the factor of which one to get if you ask me
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I like the kaiser a lot too, but from personal experience, they have some issues with these devices. Hardware and software related. In particular, the BT Stack seems to um, SUCK big time. A couple of my friends had them (Tilts) and they both had horrible BT performance. Either they couldn't connect to certain Headsets/Car Kits or they couldn't walk five feet away from the device while connected without a bunch of static. These are common problems.
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I must be lucky. I work in a home office upstairs in our house, and I can use my jawbone BT connected to my Tilt and walk downstairs to the kitchen and only get a small amount of scratching sound. When I was using my Wizard, by the time I got to the bottom of the stairs I knew I had forgoten my phone as the scratching and popping sounds were pretty bad.
Could be that this was because I was using the unofficial AKU AT&T ROM (I immediately upgraded to this when I got my Tilt as I at first understood it was an official AT&T upgrade). Now running Dutty's 7b which is based off the HTC rom and my BT sound is even better and more clear than the AT&T roms ever were, so it could be more the AT&T rom than the HTC rom with BT issues.
tilt
i just got my tilt(kaiser) and in my personal oppinon...it totally kicks ass...seriously. i was kinda wondering bc of how much it coses but let me assure it was well worth it
The Kaiser is a terrific device and I'm very happy with it. Ofcourse there are some issues (like the video drivers, and audio glitch) that do not make it perfect for all uses.
If you want to play a lot of games or video or so, don't go for the Kaiser right now - that situation might improve, I'd wait and see what happens.
Note that the Touch variants all have the same issue.
HTC TyTN II and HTC Touch Cruise (same as TyTN II but without keyboard) are the best phones out there.
Call me crazy but I like the wizard still. I have a Hermes 8525, Faraday 2125 and I tried out the Tilt for a day. Not much differant then the Hermes but has a ton of memory. For a smart phone, the Faraday is awesome.
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Call me crazy but I like the wizard still. I have a Hermes 8525, Faraday 2125 and I tried out the Tilt for a day. Not much differant then the Hermes but has a ton of memory. For a smart phone, the Faraday is awesome.
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agreed...i LOVE my kaiser....but at the end of the day im always like damn that wizard was one hell of a phone....seriously
i have a 8125 and a 8525 also tried tilt because my friend has one and he let me plaay with it for a day
if your looking for speed of course go to 400mhz but it does not mean that wizard is slow because of frequent change in roms it can match the speed more or less
only thing here is the memory of course tilt has the most; second is tytan and last but not the least is my 8125... what makes the wizard advantageous is that it has a double speaker unlike tytan the speaker is placed at the back it produces less sounds in a process
I dont know if 4gig or 8gig can support the wizard but it has happened to kasier and tytan
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one last and important thing that I have noticed is in the wizard forum all of the good rom makers has not made roms nowadays??? that is the only sad part
in kaiser and tytan rom makers are very much active this makes the HUGE difference between the phone
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one last and important thing that I have noticed is in the wizard forum all of the good rom makers has not made roms nowadays??? that is the only sad part
in kaiser and tytan rom makers are very much active this makes the HUGE difference between the phone
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Did you forget XM6R5, That rom is awesome.
yeah aside from mfrazzz... I miss the times when there are too many roms to choose from maybe it is because people here know now about cooking and still I am a noob for cooking and trust cookers t put there files here???
oh well I can only blame myself actually...
As my Nike is bust (see my sig) I will probably be looking to get another HTC phone in it's place. So I'm asking the same question.
From what I've read the Kaiser and TyTn 2 are the best, am I right in thinking that one of these two would be the best phones to have? Like the first post, I'd like a phone that's 'open source' so to speak (ie. popular, lots of mods for it) and WiFi and SD slot.
i can ask nothing more out of my vogue, till i get my hands on the touch HD
My vote is for the Tilt/Kaiser. I bought mine off craigslist for $200. Best $200 I'd spent in some time. I love my Wizard but the ROM's available for the Kaiser are just amazing and the device itself is fast, Stable, and just plain fun to work with.
Kirby
My contract runs out next month. I was confident I would go straight onto a Kaiser, but I have just seen the touch cruise !!! decisions decisons
Which way are the ROM cookers going to jump? I have to say the hard work of those guys really brought the best out of my hermes.
there are rom cookers for most of the devices
i would guess the cookers who pref keyboard will go kaiser
and others will go tc
Haha... I think I'd have to get another Hermes if mine ever died.
I don't like the shoddy video performance on the Kaiser, it's also not quite clear to me if the Kaiser can be folded out flat, which is far more useful if you aren't at a desk than the 'pop-up' motion. Also, I use a bluetooth Sirf Star 3, which is infinitely better than the crappy built-in GPS on the Kaiser.
The Kaiser (and my hermes) just seems to be beginning to feel just a little too bulky !
I'm sticking with the Hermes for awhile ...
I'm sticking with my Hermes for awhile too!
1. I already have a Garmin GPS 10 (Bluetooth), so I really don't need the GPS of a Kaiser. I run Garmin Mobile XT (& BeelineGPS) from my SD card, so space isn't an issue either. And this is all more than accurate enough for my Geocaching adventures!
2. I have a 2 gig microSD (soon to be upgraded to 4 or 6 GB), so I really don't need the extra memory of the Kaiser (especially with these memory freeing ROMs - thanks to our ROM Chefs!) Even with my GPS maps, I still have plenty of room on my microSD.
3. I just recently went from carrying a Motorola RAZR, Dell Axim X50v and Bluetooth Keyboard ... to carrying only the AT&T 8525 (a.k.a. Hermes 100). So, I'm still enjoying carrying only 1 device.
4. True it's sort of large, but not as much space as 2 devices. Besides, it's not that bad when I use the leather belt holster or place it in the hidden pocket of my Docker's Mobile pants (part of Docker's premium line - so I can wear them at work). It's small enough that it doesn't bulge out on my leg, so it truly remains hidden!
5. Also, as far as size goes, if the keyboard/thumbboard was any smaller, I think it would loose it usefulness.
6. With all of our cooked ROMs, we're getting all sorts of software-based advantages of newer models. Why pay more $$$ for the same stuff?
Maybe I should be a salesman for HTC?
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My contract runs out next month. I was confident I would go straight onto a Kaiser, but I have just seen the touch cruise !!! decisions decisons
Which way are the ROM cookers going to jump? I have to say the hard work of those guys really brought the best out of my hermes.
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If you used your Hermes for video playback and want to continue doing so with your new device then you'd better steer clear of any of HTC's devices using the Qualcomm 7200 and 7500 chipsets!
Why ditch your phone just cause your contract is running out? Pay month to month and keep your Hermes!
I'm in same situation as you. However I'm going to hold out for the sony ericsson x1.
I went into o2 on thursday to see if i wanted to get out a contract for a kaiser.
saw the phone picked it up and the screen was abit loose.. wobbling when flat on the keypad. I had also read about the issues with drivers / choppy graphics and that was the decider.. i walked straight back out and got a hermes, and imo it feels alot better and more secure than the kaiser. so i would wait until they revise the design of the kaiser or something.
I'd have to agree that the few advantages of the Kaiser are not enough for me to trade in my Hermes. The video issues alone are incredibly crippling...I watch alot of video on my Hermes and to have to fight with video drivers on a $600+ device is unforgivable.
The Kaiser does have a 3.0MP camera, but the default camera drivers on HTC phones has always been ****. Cool Camera's software give much more control and was the software that took the photos from my Hermes from looking so-so to being very nice. I could only guess that the Kaiser's camera could only look even better running Cool Camera software on it.
The GPS issue isn't much of an issue for me. I don't use GPS too often, but it would be nice to have it built in rather than to have to get out the Bluetooth unit.
The tilting keyboard I've yet to be able to see as very useful. I don't put my phone on a table and peck away at my keyboard...I hold it and type with my thumbs. However, I could see it as being slick for watching videos.
But even with all that, I don't want to drop all that money for a phone that does the same thing mine does, just slightly better. A tilting keyboard, slightly better camera, and built in GPS simply aren't enough to warrant the cash required for a Tilt.
Even though it is being somewhat of a traitor around here, it was the Kaiser's lack of large enough advancements that caused to pick up an unlocked iPhone rather than a Kaiser. I figured I would have the Hermes with all of its Windows Mobile bad ass-ness, and the iPhone for music and video.
...and then Slide 2 Play with coverflow comes out two weeks later. Go figure. There went my reason for the iPhone. ; )
Hello. I've been following the Kaiser thread ever since I heard about it, and with the same anxiety of the owners of that phone i've been waiting for the miraculous drivers to appear. I'm looking forward to upgrade from a HP hx2750, to a new pda with phone. After a few research I concluded that the pdas the fit my need are the HTC p3600 (trinity), p3600i (500Mhz processor version) , the Tytn 2 Kaiser or the coming Eten X800 and the I-mate 8502 which in my option is the best off all those but I doubt it will be available sooner than April 2008.
From all those the p3600i and tytn 2 seemed more appealing. So I have to pick between the p3600i (since i'd rather have more ROM and processor speed though paying a bit more) or the kaiser, tytn 2.
I like to play videos, take pictures and once in awhile play a few games, but also have a decent scrolling and browsing speed since I'm used to the hx2750 wm6, BUT, i'm not sure if the drivers will ever be made or work properly... in other words I wouldn't like to have a crippled phone as expensive as that kaiser(not getting contract!). The p3600i looks great is not so buggy but doesn't have keyboard and this is something I always missed in the hx2750. Neither I know if the keyboard in the end is really that useful cause it looks very hard to type in...
I heard better things from htc in past times but now they don't seem to care for consumers opinion, so that's another question. I dunno if it's better to get the kaiser and wait for drivers or get something more solid. I heard new windows 6.1 will come out soon, so might be a help or push to fix problem. I prefer more the kaiser but the p3600i is impressive too...
So i'm here asking for whoever wants to share its opinion... What's the best buy p3600i or tytn2 (kaiser, tilt)?
Is htc giving up the kaiser for real?(no more drivers, no more production of that model? And does the p3600i as any issue too?
P.S:I really refer to the p3600i not the updated p3600(trinity)
Heavy s**t
My penn'orth:
The TyTyn 2 is SOOOOO heavy and bulky. although the 3MP camera is nice, the keyboard is not really that useful as it's fiddly to use and the bulky size and weight for me do not justify the tilt / keyboard.
For it's size I'd say go with the 3600i.
It may be useful in terms of getting responses - to specify which driver issue you are talking about - I'm not sure myself!
I would like to add that you should keep in mind that the P3600i is still relatively new and that if you plan to immediately flash the ROM to your favourite cooked TouchFlo variety you will be unable to do so for a while so you'll have to stick with the original stuff for now. Apart from that I would say that a big part of your decision-making considerations would be the hardware keyboard and how important having one means to you - to be honest I hardly use them. Additionally, I HATE to feel the looseness/play created by the moving parts, and I like a solid phone with only buttons - no flips, slides or twists. Another consideration is battery life - not sure exactly how they compare, but I have a feeling there is not much difference between the two (keeping in mind that the P3600i has a faster processor than the Kaiser). I am not sure how the cameras compare either, but the Kaiser should indeed produce better results, though I will say that the P3600/P3600i's photos are not that bad either. Another factor, presumably, is the cost. I am about to buy a P3600i today and it's running me USD$599 - the TyTN II is USD$750. For me it's the P3600i, but of course, the choice is yours. You have to look at all the differences between the two phones (read as many reviews as you can) and the environment you will be using the phone in and the type of usage you will demand from it to fine-tune and make the best decision for yourself.
I had to make the same decision and ended up with the p3600. For two reasons:
1st: The P3600 comes with almost the same functionality, like wifi, gps, hsdpa/umts and so on - but is cheaper and smaller. Besides that the P3600 has no performanceproblems with applications or videoplayback.
2nd: I dont do any SMS-texting, neither do I write any e-mails from the phone. So the keyboard wasnt too important to me. Since there are some nice programs for fingerfriendly onscreen keyboards, I can type small texts without any difficulty and quite fast.
You definitely get more for your money with the p3600 ... which is useless if you need to write 20 emails a day on your phone ...
The drivers issue I made reference to (Htc tytn 2) problem is the fact it has a video performance worst than earlier models, it's slow and paused when scrolling, can't play games with proper frame rates. This is blamed in the lack video drivers... the tytn 2 or kaiser thread is filled with users seeking a solution to that.
The p3600i is a beautiful device but I don't know till when the 64MB memory will be a issue, and the kaiser offers 128Mb...
I don't really mind not having a cooked rom as long as the new one isn't that bad or buggy. About the touchflo I don't know really what is and how useful is but I suppose is something like finger scrolling... don't think is useful in such small screens... ^^
My hx2750 screen is almost as big as the p3600! I compared them side by side!
Does anyone knows if any htc device will be updated to wm6.1?
Thanks for all opinions...