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TRADE - My Universal for your Wizard?

Am thinking of trading my Universal for someone's Wizard. Was wondering what you guys think of that.
Thoughts?
Offers?
Thanks!
Cyb

Do it and dont look back.
Main reason? EDGE compatibility. Especially as your in the US.
Only thing the Uni has that I want over and above the Wizard is VGA. But I can live with the tiny QVGA screen on the Wizard. The VGA screen is the main reason the Uni is so sluggish anyway, as it uses the processor as its video controller instead of a seperate VGA chip.
Cya
Stot

I suggest you check the Pocket PC forum on HowardForums.com first. Quite a few people are extremely unhappy with their Wizards, while owners of Universals seem rather happy.

You are stupid...
change a ferrari into a bmw (normal version)

Responses!
bohr2005 said:
You are stupid...
change a ferrari into a bmw (normal version)
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well I'm definately getting opinions! keep 'em coming...
Cyb

Ferarri - BMW.. Not entirely true.
The Universal on its face is a good device. But once you start using it it has its annoyances that can outweigh the VGA screen, the only great thing it has going for it. It has a faster CPU but its impacted by the fact that the CPU is drawing 4 times the screen real estate which slows it down a LOT.
Ram/Rom is the same
Both have a QWERTY K/B
Both have Bluetooth
Both have 1.3MP camera.
Also be aware that in the US there is no 3G WCDMA network, there is 3G EDGE rolling out tho, so the Wiz can go 3G out here.
Oh and the Wiz has Wifi b and g and will be upgradeable via rom to e and i too. Universal is b only.
IMO the Universal is a little too fragile also. Not sure about the Wiz as i havent got it yet but its on its way and I had a play with it. its seemed to be more sturdy.
So. Its more like comparing a Ferarri towing a caravan, looks great fairly slick and fast engine bogged down, to a Caterham 7. Looks great, bit smaller, less powerfull engine, fairly robust, No caravan.
Cya
Stot

i had a Wizard for a couple of weeks. to be honest i loved it but i found the screen too small for easy reading of mail, spreadsheets, internet browsing etc. As a phone it is definitely preferable to the Universal BUT, from my humble point of view, the Universal is the best all rounder i've ever used - it's awesome. Also, once you've tweaked the Universal it's realy fast AND reliable and it does mean that for short journey's abroad i don't need to take my laptop. oh yeah, the Wizard uses mini SD which means you are limited to a 1GB storage card and if you like music, video etc that just ain't enough!
Mikey Mike

i had a Wizard for a couple of weeks. to be honest i loved it but i found the screen too small for easy reading of mail, spreadsheets, internet browsing etc. As a phone it is definitely preferable to the Universal BUT, from my humble point of view, the Universal is the best all rounder i've ever used - it's awesome. Also, once you've tweaked the Universal it's realy fast AND reliable and it does mean that for short journey's abroad i don't need to take my laptop. oh yeah, the Wizard uses mini SD which means you are limited to a 1GB storage card and if you like music, video etc that just ain't enough!
Mikey Mike

The Wizard has a keyboard.....all right.....BUT, it doesnt have a separate row for numbers (0-9). It shares it with the qwert... keys, and that's simply bad!
IMHO, i think this is a handicap, and is a bad limitation for a device which claims to have a native hw based keyboard...
S

ferrari and BMW?
Think not you are giving the wizard too much credit.
Main problems with the wizard: Too small, it is a stuck up mda compact.
The processor is downright slow.
You are living in the US so yeah, edge is the only option for the 3g network.
Still I think you should not just throw it away and get the wizard.
Furthermore if you do change it is a waste of your money, as the wizard is much cheaper then the universal.
Offcourse there are problems with the universal... what did you expect.
The universal uses vga, which is not supported yet. It uses wm5 too which is not highly compatible with known programs either.
I suggest you wait a while before you do something I am sure you will regret sooner or later.

Thanks!
I want to thank you guys for your responses... I have decided to keep my universal and just continue to use my Sierra Wireless VOQ as a back up when the Uni is TOO MUCH
Now... let's begin with a new ROM...
Thanks again...
Cyb

Im down with the trade!!

I would check your exec they are just as cheap. I dropped my orange variant and the case split open. I am unbiased as I have both and actually vga is supported nativly since wm 2003. So it is not a new thing manuafactures choose not to implement screens.
Wizard thogh a tad slower gets the job done, remeber the tortoise and the bunny. Besides have you actually looked at the benchmarks for the exec they are not that inspiring.
I guess I am British in that sense I am used to waiting, like British transport you will be waiting but it will get yo there though.

battery life
however the wizard is like a moped sipping vegetable oil compared with the universal like a mustang on premium gas when it comes to battery life...

Poll please vote: Would you purchase the P3600 again?

I am trying to figure out, which GPS Phone to purchase and I am hoping that you guys can give me some insides of your user experiences with the P3600.

After some further research, I am leaning towards the P3600 rather then Eten or Pharos.
This poll is starting to confirm that the users are pretty happy with the Trinity.

It looks that the majority is quite happy with the P3600 - good to know!
Now, if HTC starts shipping units with corrected paint jobs, then I am in for one and will retire the Prophet.

Craic Dub said:
It looks that the majority is quite happy with the P3600 - good to know!
Now, if HTC starts shipping units with corrected paint jobs, then I am in for one and will retire the Prophet.
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Who cares about some paint man!... I don't think any mobile phone that is put through daily use and abuse holds it's paint for very long...
It's about the tech inside; that's just awesome with this P3600 dude!

Moaske said:
Who cares about some paint man!... I don't think any mobile phone that is put through daily use and abuse holds it's paint for very long...
It's about the tech inside; that's just awesome with this P3600 dude!
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To me, this is a very important issue!
I take good care of my gadgets, so that I am able to sell my stuff and re-invest in new toys a year later - that is a normal cycle in my eyes.
I currently own a Prophet and even after a year of daily use, the device is in excellent condition and I am planing on selling it for $300 in order to be able to buy the P3600. So, if the P3600 looks like crap after two month of use, then this decreases the re-sell value, which poses a problem.
On the positive side though, the P3600 seems to be a great toy and the paint issue really is just a cosmetic problem (which I really, really hope they will fix very soon)

"So, if the P3600 looks like crap after two month of use, then this decreases the re-sell value, which poses a problem."
The paint problem is subjective, I also bough a black P3600, in november 06, I have a minimal paint problem, when I tried to show it to my sis she didn't even see it, but it is there, it peeled of because of the memory card cover, when I opened it it scraped(i think that's the right word) a little bit of the paint.
My glossy screen protector worries me more than that tiny piece of paint, I miss the shiny screen lol.

I would purchase the HTC P4500 (HTC Kaiser) or the HTC P5500 (HTC Nike), which are currently not yet available..
So I maybe would have wait till they were released before buying the P3600.
They both got gps, fm radio,...

Kaiser no FM radio.... but it's not correct compare p3600 with phones that not available at the moment

Svenitos said:
I would purchase the HTC P4500 (HTC Kaiser) or the HTC P5500 (HTC Nike), which are currently not yet available..
So I maybe would have wait till they were released before buying the P3600.
They both got gps, fm radio,...
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I like the look and specs of the Kaiser but I would not want to be the first one to go through a test cycle and subsequent bug fixes of a new released model.
The Nike is a smartphone right?

I see indeed that the Kaiser has no FM radio, weird, I thought I read somewhere it did..
Anyways, it has a built-in flash camera etc.
The Nike is a bit in between of pda and smartphone, I don't know what it really is.. It has a touchscreen, has a camera with built-in flash etc.
But if they wouldn't be releashed in the future, I would definately go for the P3600.

Let the future alone..
Making purchase choices, based on specs only, for machines that need months to come to market..... Get the real thing! By the time they are "stable" products, the P3600 would have been near 2 years in the market..... IMHO we, xda-dev readers, don't hold our machines that long...... just read most senior signatures....
Enjoy your 3600 as much as you can, this is TODAY the best PDA/PHONE/GPS/3G etc A-V-A-I-L-A-B-L-E

I really like my Trinity.
I've only had it for about 2 months now, but in general I'm very well pleased.
I hav't had any of the paintpeeling problems - I bought a white one and have put it in a silicon cover as I have a bit of a grip problem holding anything.
I did have a problem with a 4GB memory card, I kept a lot of media files ot it and Windows Media player wouldn't see the card and update its library. There are plenty of threads about that one and its easy sorted.
You can have a few problems with the GPS unless you manually configure the Comm port to 9 and the baud rate to 4800, after doing that, I get a valid fix withn 2 minutes, although the strength of the receiver is quite weak in comparrison to some other units and you can lose the fix. But hey, its a PDA not a garmin.
I am a bit dissapointed with video media playback, the trinity being a bit slow sometimes.
It has enough processing power for most things and is elatively fast enough.
the camera is decent for a PDA, way better than most phones.
Overall though - well reccomended, best PDA I've had so far. out of the 6 i've owned.

I think that my vote will change if HTC will not upgrate p3600 to WM 6. If so; I will never buy any HTC product in the future.

I have mixed feelings, I'm probably satisfied with it, but I'm not over the moon. I still feel it's quite slow for the apps that I need to run on it, and the RAM is a bit low too. In terms of the looks, it's pretty nice, I would like it to be a bit thinner but it's not that much of an issue.
If I had to get a device unconnected, I wouldn't have bought the Trinity, I probably would have waited about a month for something from the I-Mate Ultimate range...but the Trinity, aka M700 was the best thing I could find on UK Networks, which specifically has to be Orange for me anyway!

is there a better phone/pda

hi all looking at getting a trinity 3600 because i need stanalone gps, pda and a phone that takes my 3 sim card. just wondering b4 i take the plunge is there another phone that will meet my requirements that anybody thinks is better than the 3600 cheers

Other devices...
Well, the HTC Advantage can do all the same things, plus it has a VGA screen, but is a much more bulky device. The only other device I'm aware of that does all that the Trinity does is the Nokia N95. The Nokia has the advantage of a 5MP camera (only 2mp on the Trinity), but it doesn't run pocket PC (it's Symbian I think).
Other than that, I'm not aware of any others. The Trinity is a very good device, you'd be hard pushed to beat it!
Lee

but Advantage i read can only be used as a phone using a headset
it dont have a mic or something
polaris the upcomming replacement for Artemis but it's not out yet
another option could be Kaiser is another option if one is not bothered by the extre thickness the keyboard adds or even pref a keyboard

thanks for your replies the n95 i think you have to pay for the gps service I dont think it has a built in sirfstar 3 chipset or any alike so i would not go for that but i will have a look at the kaiser cheers

Yes, N95 runs Symbian, but no touchscreen. I've tried it a few days ago - much slower than my N73.

Other options
As of now the Trinity is one of the best PDA'a around.
Other phones that you can consider are the Asus P535/525 series and the Eten M700.
These phones have all the feature the Trinity has and then some more. Like all phones, the Trinity also has its fair share of problems.
I was about to buy the Trinity but holding out for the Kaiser, it has all the feature that I want in a phone.
Just my 2 cents worth.
Cheers,
Hiren

i'll wait for polaris or nike myself
dont want a slideout keyboard

polaris looks really good just took a look out in october ultra thin aswell says 3.5 in screen does that make the phone bigger than the mda 3 compact and is it defo 3g because it was the mda i wanted but only 2g

hi...
is there a better phone/pda? interesting question....
If you are using it mostly like a phone I wouldnt go for the trinity because of two issues:
* I need a quite strong GSM signal to get acceptable sound quality. People I call often complain about the quality of my voice when compared to a 'normal' phone. Maybe is my device, people in this forum say, but I tried some proposed remedies without success.
* Screen is nearly invisible outdoors on a sunny day
If you are using mostly PDA features, the trinity may be an interesting option. The rest of features work really well, specially GPS.
Beware a new (pricey) trinity version is to be released soon (or maybe already). Hopefully they solve these issues plus the paint peeling off thing. Then it would be the perfect phone.

Depends on what you value!
If you need the phone for business, don't get a PDA phone coz the reception is NOT 100% reliable...
What do you need the PDA for?
All in all, it might be better to get a TomTom GO, then a cheap phone with bluetooth that can connect to TomTom!
But as previously said, D810X is meant to be coming out, no idea when and how much though.

D810x is out in Australia as the HTC p3600i.

i think dell axim x51 is very good for gaming but it dont have a camera!

Polaris looks its gonna be great! I remember reading it only has 400mhz cpu :S

Advice wich one to buy

Hi there please help me to decide wich Pocket PC to buy!
HTC P3600 or ASUS P735?
They are at approx. same prices so Wich one is better?
Thanks

Trinity. Why? Because P735 has no GPS, has a weaker battery, has no infrared. On the other hand, P735 is equipped with a faster processor, more flash memory, auto focus and probably doesn't peel off, which is nice...

@dubart
Thanks a lot, Dubart, I'll be more than interested if you could tell me about the p3600.
Actually how powerfull the battery is-especially when using wi-fi? The Samsung CPU- how fast is? is it capable of managing the latest version of Skype, or some 3D game? The camera isn't problem for me.
Do you know what graphic chip is being used in the Trinity? Is it capable of playing xvid without conversion?
Finally does every single p3600 peel off?

Camera is not worth mentioning at all... totally useless, if you want my opinion. Well, it's difficult to judge battery power because it depends on many many things (usage, network, etc) but I'll describe my experiences:
I usually charge my Trin every second night. Sometimes even every night, but I'm OK with that because prior to Trinity I used Symbian-powered Nokia N80 which never managed to last until 8 pm. Wi-Fi, backlight and GPS drain the battery significantly. I've tried 2-3 times using wi-fi & GPS all day long, and needed charging after a couple of hours already. Even bluetooth & infrared make an important difference when battery time is concerned. 400 MHz Samsung processor is fine, but only 64 MB of RAM is inadequate. Skype works just fine, but not v2.2 (good for chat only, voicecalls don't work) - you need to find v2.1 (both chat & voicecalls are OK).
Graphic chip is by ATI and I'm not sure about XviD...
And finally - peeling: mine started peeling off after almost two months, but a friend of mine has it (black one, too), and his one started after just a couple of days (maybe his fingernails are a bit longer ). It peels around reset button and around stylus 'compartment' (cannot remember the exact term for it right now...). You can read here that the problem exists with black ones only, but the white one is hard to find, unless Orange branded.
Networks here in Croatia are both 2G&3G and when I set the device to choose them automatically, it ocasionally drops calls (when on 3G), so I keep it manually on 2G and turn it to 3G just when I need to make a video call or surf using 3G speeds (which is not so often because of prices here...).
Where are you from?

polaris look sweet imho

If you are going to get any asus wait for the p750. It is going to be great. I have the 3600 and it has been a good little device. Its not the best at everything but it does everything well enough. I am going to wait for the p750 to come out in Oct/Nov.

I have the black p3600 for 3 months now and mine hasn't peeled at all yet! I have been really happy with it. Definitely worth the money. I use the wifi loads at home and it works a treat. (I am using it right now)

If that screen is 2.8", then it must be too big because it has a non-sliding keyboard

Buy the Trinity

Well I'm really concerned about the skype and that peel off.
Actually I've read that the skype for Samaung CPU is still in beta version.
Could be that the problem?
What kind is that chip by ati?
Imageon what?
Is it possible to use it for 3D accelerator?
Thanks to all of you!

Здравеи!
Don't worry about Skype. As I've told you - it works, but v2.1 which you can download from www.skype.com. Skype is probably working on a solution for Samsung processors. The graphic chip appears to be ATI The Imageon™ 2282 according to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1068170&highlight=ati+imageon#post1068170. Someone here posted a photo of Trinity's motherboard, try to find it, and you'll see what chip that is.
3D games work as well.
What's the price of P3600 in Bulgaria? Around 700€ here, that's why I bought it in Germany.

p3600
The best pda, smart phone i've ever had! Its got the best features about! It will do me fine until the polairs comes out

здравей
In BG now the trinity is sold for arround 500 euros, and I've heard that the cost will drop to 450 till christmas.
The graphics aren't teriblly fast but I hope to work for unconverted Xvid.
What about he Flash content viewing with the Trinity?
Is it true that there is fullyt functional plugin from Adobe wich makes possible viewing the flash objects inside the Pocket IE or Opera?
Have you tried this, and does the Trinity's hardware managed to render the flash content reasonably well-like desktop PC?
What about the sound quality from the stereo handsfree-bad, good, perfect?
I'm keeping asking a lot, please keep answering !!

I would wait for Polaris or maybe for Ipaq 600 / 900.

kasovnik said:
здравей
In BG now the trinity is sold for arround 500 euros, and I've heard that the cost will drop to 450 till christmas.
The graphics aren't teriblly fast but I hope to work for unconverted Xvid.
What about he Flash content viewing with the Trinity?
Is it true that there is fullyt functional plugin from Adobe wich makes possible viewing the flash objects inside the Pocket IE or Opera?
Have you tried this, and does the Trinity's hardware managed to render the flash content reasonably well-like desktop PC?
What about the sound quality from the stereo handsfree-bad, good, perfect?
I'm keeping asking a lot, please keep answering !!
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Yes, there is Adobe Flash available and it opens flash movies, but I just cannot make it work within IE or Opera. I always get a message that a plug-in is missing. The headphones that were in-the-box are nothing special, but I've found them to be OK after playing with Audio Booster.

Thanks Dubart!!
Is it possible to listen music with a standard 3,5" headphones using somekind of miniUSB-3,5" connector?
Does anybody can tell where can I read about performance tests of HTC p3600 or Asus P735 (CPU, graphics etc.)?
On GLbencmark and jbenchmark's sites there wasn't any.

http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=144543
or
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=144683

grd-dan said:
I would wait for Polaris or maybe for Ipaq 600 / 900.
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any one remember due date for the polaris? I think its 1st q 08? :S
Thanks

http://www.belgiantop50.com/article-10381-HTC-Polaris-and-HTC-Touch-II-on-the-horizon.html
Both devices are rumoured to have October release dates.Link
of cause rumoured mean guessing

kasovnik said:
Thanks Dubart!!
Is it possible to listen music with a standard 3,5" headphones using somekind of miniUSB-3,5" connector?
Does anybody can tell where can I read about performance tests of HTC p3600 or Asus P735 (CPU, graphics etc.)?
On GLbencmark and jbenchmark's sites there wasn't any.
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Yeap, it is. I bought one of those adapters from eBay. They're very cheap, altogether with shipping it costs around 6 €! The sound on Sony's megabass headphones is great.

Is the Blue Angel worth it?

Hi BA owners,
I have a chance to buy a BA in excellent condition for a rediculous price. I have checked the specs on it and with the large ram and 400mhz processor, it would seem to me to be an upgrade from my Wizard, which only has a 200mhz processor and 64mb of ram. I am counting on some input from you guys in this forum to steer me in the right direction. Thanks in advance!

Do it
I will be honest with you. It has no comparison with the Wizard. My wife has one and it runs out of resources more often than not. Don't get me wrong though, it is a great pda phone. However, the BA packs a lot of power inside, and as you may have seen it is upgradeable .
I have had mine for almost 3 years now and has been through 2 heavy manufacturing plants. Other than the stylus getting lost 57,000 times, I do not have any complains about it.
Besides, with this kind of support (xda-devs), short of you bricking it, there are very few issues that you might encounter and not be able to fix. I hope my 2 cents will help you make the right decision.
All in all... Just Do It!!!!

it's also a generation or 2 older then wizards

I love my BA. My curiosity was perked when I saw an ad for the Touch so I checked it out at the local store. I was considering buying one, then I found this site, and the wonderful WM6 ROMs. By updating from WM2003 to WM6 I have decided that with the speed of the CPU and the amount of RAM on this that I would be happier with this than a new, smaller, slower unit. Sure it has some quirks, but mine has been through hell. It has been dropped from waist high several times and has loads of dents in the metal body (something the newer ones don't even have as plastic is lighter and more importantly cheaper). I have used a screen protector for the entire 3 years I have owned it so there is no damage there. I am even still happily using the original battery with no problems.
The following is absolutely not an all inclusive list.
Pros:
large screen
fast CPU
large RAM
durable
time tested and proven by thousands of owners
Cons:
device was never intended to be used this long (WM5/WM6)
bluetooth sucks hard (no range)
tiny ROM (32 MB)
cannot use "all" SD cards (SDHC)
new phones are smaller and lighter
I hope this helps.
P.S. I have seen a phone I would replace my BA with if it ever makes it to market. The Pi Phone from deeda.com looks so cool.

Pros:
large screen
fast CPU
large RAM
durable
time tested and proven by thousands of owners
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a lot of hardware keys (not keyboard)
no CID lock
safe to upgrade (it is difficult to brick)
Cons:
device was never intended to be used this long (WM5/WM6)
bluetooth sucks hard (no range)
tiny ROM (32 MB)
cannot use "all" SD cards (SDHC)
new phones are smaller and lighter
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no support (only hacked ROMs from xda-developers)
it is easy to damage the case
problems with stylus
slider slacks
keyboard could be better
some permanent problems with non official ROMs (random power on when bluetooth is active)

baniaczek said:
a lot of hardware keys (not keyboard)
no CID lock
safe to upgrade (it is difficult to brick)
no support (only hacked ROMs from xda-developers)
it is easy to damage the case
problems with stylus
slider slacks
keyboard could be better
some permanent problems with non official ROMs (random power on when bluetooth is active)
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I agree with all these....
just one opinion with the random power on when BT is active, i dont have a problem with it anymore....
if anyone hasnt found out.... use S2U2 from A_C and from settings:
set this parameter:
LOCK WHEN DEVICE WAKES UP: ON
ON BATTERY POWER: POWER OFF in __ -> 5 S - this is the minimum allowed.
What this does is when BA wakes up randomly, S2U2 will run, and after 5 second it turns OFF - i.e. save your battery power and save the BA from accidental button pressing.
For me this is the greatest work around for BT issue and I have my BT ON 24/7
Hope this helps

if anyone hasnt found out.... use S2U2 from A_C and from settings:
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But it is only workaround. Error still exists.

Point of interest with the BT power on issue. My experience is that if my BA is sitting on the desk powered off with BT on it stays off, but if I pick it up and walk around the "office" it wakes up. I believe it is waking up upon discovering another device. I have not proven this to my satisfaction as of yet, but so far all of my random tests seem to concur. Not that this provides any useable solution as of yet, it is just my observations being put into print.

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But it is only workaround. Error still exists.
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Yes dude, thats what I have written up there... a wokaround, nevertheless, the greatest workaround I could come up with...
with this, the battery would last as long as if BT is off since when it turns on, it only last for 5 sec before it turns off again...
For me, this problem becomes non-existent now... thats all i am trying to pass on
Btw, Baniaczek, how come you dont release anymore BA roms? I would definitely give it a try if you ever release one again

OT!!
Hi baniaczek. Great to have you back!

I am now running a Kaiser, before that a Hermes, before that a Wizard. So I've used them all. I currently use my Kaiser for business, but at home I use my BA. The BA screen is bigger and it works very well. I'm running Helmi's WM6 and his using his Broadcom BT Stack. I'm also using Radio ROM 1.15.
The Wizard is a better phone. If I were you I'd buy a Hermes or Wizard. They are better phones.
The BA is great as a secondary or backup device. I keep it to browse the web at home using WiFi. The larger screen is very nice. I just got it set up to watch YouTube videos. It's great using WiFi but it only has GPRS for web browsing using your wireless carrier. The Wizard has Edge which is much better.
If I had limited funds and didn't want a contract, I'd buy a Hermes (TyTN) on ebay new for about $350.00. Even if you're on an Edge network (I.e, no UMTS or HSDPA), the Hermes runs better than the Wizard because of the Hermes 400 Mhz processor. I use Pandora's Naked ROM and added just the apps. I want. It works very fast. My wife is now using it.
Hope this helps.

joseph.sapri said:
Btw, Baniaczek, how come you dont release anymore BA roms? I would definitely give it a try if you ever release one again
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Yeah... I still remembered ur .NET CF2 in WM5 ROM was great! I used it until the release of WM6.
Any plan to cook a tweaked WM6 ROM?
Anth

Nice to read those words. I'm finishing two large projects (non PDA at all), and probably will be back.

Thanks
Thank you all for your replies. I think after reading these posts, I'll stick with the wizard for awhile longer. I would like the larger storage and faster processor, but from what I've read here and reading through many of the BA threads, I think the wizard, with its obvious limitations, is a more stable device, especially running wm6. Maybe I'm wrong, if so, tell me more.

kcguy said:
Thank you all for your replies. I think after reading these posts, I'll stick with the wizard for awhile longer. I would like the larger storage and faster processor, but from what I've read here and reading through many of the BA threads, I think the wizard, with its obvious limitations, is a more stable device, especially running wm6. Maybe I'm wrong, if so, tell me more.
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What was the price you were getting the BA for and can I buy it?

Friend of mine has a wizard that crashes more often then my BA >.> gues its the way you handle the device.. once you tweaked it out the BA solid.
Only thing left on my wishlist currently is new battery(2400mah) and a gps unit.. and both are shipped and should arrive shortly

I have a uni and a ba. The uni has better keyboard, sharper screen and faster processor. But how the gurus were able to pack the wm6 rom into the 32mb rom and still leave me with 50mb of storage and 109mb of program memory is simply wondrous. The result is that I am able to handle a lot more on the ba than the uni and it is really very stable.

Changed my mind
OK, after much apprehension about this, mainly because I thought the phone might be hot, I went ahead and bought the Blue Angel, new, in the box, never been used. I won't tell what I paid for it, because you wouldn't believe it. Apparently this friend of a friend happened onto 3 new phones at an auction somewhere and now has sold all three. Now, since I'll have the phone in a couple of days, I need you guys to point me to the best wm6 rom for this phone, if you wouldn't mind. I'm anxious to see what it's like to have some processing power and enough memory to actually have more than 1 or 2 programs running at the same time, with (hopefully) no hangs. Thanks for your attention guys! BTW the specs on this one says it has 64mb flash rom, but on your posts, I've only seen 32mb. Is this true?

it's 32mb for the flash rom only, hence space for the the OS Rom.
that's what makes our BA lean and mean. the excess are discarded to be jampacked into that 32mb muscle.
it's bigger actually when you have booted it up to install some applications.
try and familiarize yourself to your new pal BA by the wiki
check out xplode's latest rom. there's a sticky thread in this forum. most recommended.
regards

Rudegar said:
it's also a generation or 2 older then wizards
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do not be kid, lol.
omap? samsung? htc?
pure xscaler power - that's pda essence, not smartphonelike **** with touch moronism.
and stop killing pda's htc/iphone fans.