Hi there,
I need software to record a call..
just as eRecorder for symbian devices..
I know you can record stuff with the record button.. but if you record a call and listen it back you can't hear the person you where talkin with..
So if someone has or knows a programm like that please let me know!
As a holdover, use the speakerphone and it will record the conversation.
Calavaro said:
As a holdover, use the speakerphone and it will record the conversation.
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It does work although it is pretty ridiculous that it has to record from the speakerphone and cannot record from the internal input!
I second the need for something that can record a call.
As well, does anyone know if it is possible to play audio over a voice call?
dannygelens said:
Hi there,
I need software to record a call..
just as eRecorder for symbian devices..
I know you can record stuff with the record button.. but if you record a call and listen it back you can't hear the person you where talkin with..
So if someone has or knows a programm like that please let me know!
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Are you gathering evidence for legal matters?
i just wanna record calls cuz most calls are funny..
and then place them on my website.. (http://www.dannygelens.nl.tt)(4 dutch viewers)
I did it with eRecorder for the nokia 7650 and the quality was great.. so i think its weird u cant do it with a windows mobile device..
if u record it while speakerphone on.. the sound (from the person ur talkin with)still is very bad
This functionality was deliberately disabled by Microsoft because of the legal implications (e.g. in many countries not allowed to record phone calls without the other party's consent).
Ineedtoys said:
This functionality was deliberately disabled by Microsoft because of the legal implications (e.g. in many countries not allowed to record phone calls without the other party's consent).
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Ah the hypocracy of it all! MS will go through the effort to take a legal position on whether or not users of their software should be allowed to record a conversation yet at the same time they continuously push the limit for which they disregard anti-competitive legislation. Its about the same as the UK mobile operators thinking they have some sort of moral obligation to protect us from dangerous content with their content control systems. Gee! Thanks!
Anyway, back to the topic. I am sure there is some third party app out there that will record a conversation so I can do my interviews without having to haul around heaps of kit.
Yeah its pretty ridiculous. I've been interviewing people via phone recently and its incedible that this self-proclaimed "smartphone" cannot even help me take audio notes.
Its not for Microsoft to police that - not any more than they police the use of the camera in the same device!!
And the Speakerphone work around is not viable becuase of the poor quality of both incoming and out going sound. On speakerphone, I can barely hear people - and they dont hear me well at all. I cant use that for business purposes at all.
You could apply this argument to all telephones - landline included. I don't see many people complaining that they don't have a record facility built in. There are plenty of devices available for those which allow you to record conversations.
If you have a specific need to regularly record conversations, it's not exactly difficult, just take a feed from the headphone socket. After all, you'll be doing it in a controlled environment to comply with the law, won't you?
Its not a 20 quid dumb home phone. Its a 400 quid PDA mobile phone that markets itself has having a built in voice recorder. So I expect it to record conversation - just like any Nokie Series 60 phone can do. Or are you claiming that Nokia is violating any law? Yeah right....
I dont have to be a call center to have reason to record a call. Any person working on business can immediately see the value of recording something while you're on the run so you can remember details - it is a mobile, phone after all.
I didn't even notice that they removed this function until checking just now. Used to be there in the old WM 2003, but in 2003SE on the Magician it seems to be gone!
Legal matters?
It is just a matter of time until a third party developer solves this for us.
Privacy laws are hard won and there for a reason, and even Nokia warn you that you must use the facility in compliance with local laws and regulations. There's a good guide to the UK regulations here:-
http://www.callcorder.com/phone-recording-law-uk.htm
It's another discussion entirely wether the means should be given for a anyone to flout the law so easily, but Microsoft obviously thought it wasn't worth the risk of litigation to be held as an accessory to this. I guess they spend enough time in court as it is
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Privacy laws are hard won and there for a reason, and even Nokia warn you that you must use the facility in compliance with local laws and regulations. There's a good guide to the UK regulations here:-
http://www.callcorder.com/phone-recording-law-uk.htm
It's another discussion entirely wether the means should be given for a anyone to flout the law so easily, but Microsoft obviously thought it wasn't worth the risk of litigation to be held as an accessory to this. I guess they spend enough time in court as it is
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Based on that logic, the mobile phone should really be a non-functional door stop. Otherwise one could equally:
- lie, defraud, harrass, etc. others with voice calls
- do the same with text and MMS
- download copyright protected content without permission from the Internet using GPRS
- illicitly record and distribute fims in the cinema using the camera
- violate people's privacy by taking compromising photos of them in the toilet
- provide illegal live pornographic video calls over 3G
- spread a virus using bluetooth
- gain illegal access to someone's network using WiFi
and God forbid even worse:
- disturb the viewing public by letting your phone ring in the cinema!
- annoy the hell out of everyone with really bad ringtones!
So my question to you is where does corporate responsibility and liability end and the unwanted nanny begin? I would argue that if there is a legitimate use for a feature then it should not be precluded simply because there is an equal risk of it being misused. The only exception would be if this misuse were to cause serious consequences. And let's face facts; recording a phone call without informing the other party doesn't exactly harm them much at all. After all, it is legally inadmissable as evidence.
Finally, if I were MS I would worry more about paying the European Union EUR497M in fines because I was stupid enough to provoke them with anti-competitive practices.
In Sweden you are allowed to record a phone call that you take part of without informing the other party. And you will be able to use it as evidence in a legal trial.
So right now I am a bit pissed off at Microsoft for removing that feature.
Had a look in the Resco Recorder forums and it seems like they are working on a solution. Unless Microsoft brings it back into the OS Resco may have a real big seller coming up!
Resco Audio Recorder works perfectly. I know because I tried it. My and my caller voices were recorded.
Yazzon said:
Resco Audio Recorder works perfectly. I know because I tried it. My and my caller voices were recorded.
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Good man! I will give it a try.
You can perfectly record voice notes with Windows Mobile any version.
This is sold as "Voice Recorder" and you can "voice record" any note.
It is by no mean sold as "Phone Call recorder".
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You can perfectly record voice notes with Windows Mobile any version.
This is sold as "Voice Recorder" and you can "voice record" any note.
It is by no mean sold as "Phone Call recorder".
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Just tried it. It records my voice alright, but what the other party says is not recorded.
The CHT version HP6365 has the internal record function, and the voice record of the other party is clear. So, why Magicain and all its other veriosn block the function???
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Since when I am using Microsoft smartphones and pocketPCs I'm missing a simply software that even on Nokia was available two years ago...
I'm talking about an ANSWERING MACHINE who simply answers an incoming call, play a message, record a message (and let me listen in real time, in order to decide if to answer or not). A plus would be contact list management to have answering machine to answer only a certain number.
Is it SO difficult to program such a program? why nobody didn't think of it until now? is there any hardware problem that doesn't allow this program to be developed?
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Regards,
RiCCiO
I'v asked around in a couple of forums too, but it doesn't seem to draw any attention. so yeah, it'll be great if someone can let us know why this is so hard to realise.
I think that PPC PE is a relatively young OS for mobile phones and as such there are alot of things that may be missing or lacking in terms of the phone part (God know's some things are missing from the PDA end as well) so give the OS a chance to grow some more and maybe we'll be getting the features we want sooner or later I think the diff between Nokias and WindowsMobile devices is that Nokia started out as a Phone company while MS did not. They have a lot of catching up to do.
It might also be due to a lack of documentation of the windows API. Also the built in notes program doesn't allow you to record phone calls. I read that this was possible in recent versions of Windows Mobile/WinCE. It might be due to law restrictions in some countries, where it is prohibited to record someone's call with out notifying him. If you provide an interface for a callers' voice data, then you could program an answering machine but also a voice recorder. That might be the reason why this interface could be undocumented or even closed to applications which are not from Microsoft. The built-in phone application proves that there is such an interface existing. I think, if it could easily be programmed, such a program would exist already.
Is there anyone who has done this, kind of like recording the phonecall... Though my query is slightly more advanced, I would like to see a Crypto program creating secure phonecalls using WM5...
So we would need to capture the datastream incoming(to decrypt) and outgoing to crypt, this creating a nice safe way to talk to your...friends... Anyone else up for this project?
Or any feedback on the concept?
...and...
i dont think its only me intrested in this so ill send this source code aswell from a company that works from a PC via isdn... This company sells cellphones with encryption...
http://www.cryptophone.de/support/downloads/downloads.html
Dont know if this could help in the initial stage?
Ps.
A similar software does exist (180 dollars per phone + all your details are sent to australian gov) www.securegsm.com
Anyone up for the task?
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it is impossible to intercept the audio data coming through PPC unless your hardware is specially designed for it and it provides you a specialized API for doing that. All crypting software encrypts calls via doing CSD calls and senging data. There is another program - www.cryptophone.de
this looks like a HTC anyway...
http://www.cryptophone.de/products/CP220/index.html
???
Then how can secureGSM do it in a software made for any WM5?
So theoretically i dont think there is a problem there....
SecureGSM is an end to end app, which I suppose all such apps would have to be.
As such, it almost certainly doesn't need to pick up the phone/modem audio path (which as Mamaich says, seems to be impossible without a particular hardware implementation), but just use the normal microphone and loudspeaker recording/playback functions.
V
AddeBC,
Vijay is right. SecureGSM is working on the same principal as criptophone.
Establish a modem connection between two devices running the same software run a negociation with the network (v.110 is much faster then v.32) start a data connection with the other dude...the stream that the mic receives is encrypted and sent over to the other party there the software decrypts the stream and plays it troughout the speaker.
There were quite a few threads regarding csd connections between phones so could start from there.
The only thing that you're going to miss in this deal is the logistic for selling the software + phone.
Cheers,
Raul
I often thought of adding this as a feature of GSMbeam but I just can't think when I would ever really need it. It would be cool to communicate without the possibility of Big Brother knowing what is said, but what would you say?
To sell this kind of software may also bring you in contact with undesirable groups, criminals or terrorists are propably in need of good voice call encryption.
To do this it will have to have a reletively low quality of sound because of the poor data rate on voice calls. How would one go about encoding the sound to data? Are there any off the shelf open ended codecs for this purpose or would the work need to be done from scratch?
OdeeanRDeathshead said:
......To sell this kind of software may also bring you in contact with undesirable groups, criminals or terrorists are propably in need of good voice call encryption....
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as per SecureGSM FAQ:
http://www.securegsm.com/pages.php?pageid=16#4
Is your software designed to support criminals and terrorists?
Absolutely not! We do not condone any such activities, and take extreme care to ensure that our products are used to prevent, rather than encourage criminal or terrorist behavior.
AddeBC
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A similar software does exist (180 dollars per phone + all your details are sent to australian gov)
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End User Details are being collected as part of identity verification procedure.
First name, Second Name, living address, phone number and contact email address. I suppose, this is standard practice. We do not support criminals and terrorists and would not sell if in doubt.. At the same time our software does just what is says to do: encrypts phone conversation end to end to the military standards and beyond.
It is buyer's resposibility to provide correct information on the order form.
see this page for details:
http://www.securegsm.com/pages.php?pageid=26
Also, I suppose providing end user information to the Australian Government does not automaticaly lead to the conclusion that SecureGSM is flawed or insecure, has master key, back door or leaving any other way to interfere with contents of SecureGSM encrypted conversation. And no! Big Brother does not know what is said..
Any way, if terrorists or any of the countries listed there want call encryption they would not trust their lives to someone elses software. I am sure they are smart enough to write their own.
As for the laws governing the sale, that just makes me mad. I do not trust John Howard, I think I should have the right to a private conversation without registering it with him. I guess that is the beauty of computers. Computers make the world go round and its the size of your brain that gets results not politics.
Well, for a less.. 'big brother-ish' scenario, I would, personally like to have my line phone to be encrypted, as it is way much easier to have someone bugging your phone line.
However, for a cell/mobile phone, it is relatively difficult for amateur people to bug it, right? What are the chances that someone around you that is interested on your conversations, is capable of intercepting your mobile/cell phone calls.
Raseac Secure Phone - for WM 2003 and WM 2003 SE
This looks worthwhile! Downloads are available from the website for testing.
[Also, as a side note, I have been in touch with Phil Zimmermann, the creator of PGP, and lately of Zfone (crypto SIP phone for XP/Linux/Mac), and he says he realizes the importance of the Pocket PC platform and is considering ways of implementing Zfone for Pocket PC.]
Code:
http://www.raseac.com.br/
Encryption system for end-to-end secure voice communication. It was developed to be used in palmtop computers running Microsoft PocketPC 2003 e 2003SE (Intel).
When installed in a palmtop connected via modem to a telephony system (fixed or mobile), it allows your company and your business a secure means of communication anywhere around the world.
Since Raseac encryption technology was developed for high capacity processors, it allowed for the implementation of state of the art security, featuring:
* Exceptional sound quality;
* 256-bit encryption key;
* Encryption technology based on the Rijndael block cipher (AES);
* CBC, Random IV, Time Stamp, Integrity check by MAC/SHA-256;
* 100% protected against "man in the middle attack";
* No backdoor.
Need for secure phone line; the brazilian site and others
Well, I'd say that common people don't have much to worry about being tapped... Usually, nothing that sensitive is talken EVER over line.
Things begin to change when you are involved with something sensitive, be that legal or not. Most of the guies who work with corps, above management level may have some need from time to time, to be contacted that way by a superior. From director and up, depending on what kind of business the company is into, it IS a must!
People who work with security, government and other agencies may need it. As already said, people who work with barely legal to blatantly criminal stuff are always in need of such trappings. I think terrorists end-up on that class.
Equipment, hard and soft is always expensive and cost prohibitive for most of us.
Paranoid, techno-junkies and just curious people may want it, just to have.
Since I fit two or three of the said categories, I would like to put a program like that on my cell phone...
Just for the sake of having it there!
(mind you! Curious, telecom and management+ position...)
That said, a basic voice scramble-de-scramble program is OK for me!!!
(the more open-source, the better!)
About the brazilian company, they changed the site's name to secvoice. I tried to have a look-see on their specs but they ignored my e-mail and so I've done with it.
For all of you who were searching for a decent VoIP Softphone that supports multiple SIP accounts, is not in beta since 2 years ago. doesn't bring your PPC down to a crawl or is nearly unusable, search no longer: We have released our AGEphone Mobile 2 just today and it blows away every competitor from Xlite over SJphone to Skype. Big words? You bet! But why don't you just test it yourself? Just point your browser to http://www.ageet.com/files/AGEphoneMobile2.CAB OR point your cellphone at http://mobileage.notlong.com and install the softphone on your Windows Mobile 5 or 6 device. You can try it as long as you want without any limits but a duration of one minute for each call.
"And, who the heck are you?" I hear you ask. We, that is the ageet Corporation in beautiful (and far) Japan and we simply couldn't stand watching the Windows Mobile VoIP market dragging along... with an SJphone version right out of the stoneage, the wannabe softphone Fring with its horrible interface ans support for but one SIP provider and not to forget Skype which single handedly brings your PPC to the knees should you only think about calling someone. AGEphone does things differently and it does things BETTER (see our press release under http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=372992) and we hope that it will be of good service to many people. And that is where you come into play:
... cause our AGEphone has been in programming for quite a while already, but we know well enough that we are just not there yet. We're selling our software and that is why you can expect only the best. So, why not give the current version a go and let me know what you like and (more importantly) dislike about it. Right now we're working on bluetooth support and chat functions are planned for the future. But I know that there must be many more features that you would like to see in in our program and we don't even have a clue about it... until now. A little post might just be enough to let us know!
And we won't just leave you with the good feeling of having helped out to improve the best VoIP client on the Windows Mobile platform - that's just not enough. And so we put out two free licenses for board members who provide us with the best suggestions (and many ), bug reports and new ideas. And if you are really convinced that AGEphone Mobile is the way to go VoIP and if then you happen to sit in the right seat: We pay well for relayed 3rd party orders and redistribution. So just let us hear from you and the least you get is that we work hard to create a better softphone for you. Whether it will be more depends just on YOU!
Will be nice if you had a proper English web site. Clicking on the English still keeps you at the Jap language. Why come and post here when you cant even get a proper web site with English on??
I'm very sorry for that. The new page is still pretty new and there are some quirks that need to be sorted out. The problem should be fixed by now, but if it persists please PM me your OS and browser version and we will look further into it. Apart from that, rest assured that we can serve you in fluent English, German and Japanese if you give our products a try.
Still doesnt work. Im using Firefox 3.0 Beta. Also tried it in IE, still no dice.
Atleast give a direct link to the English site or have a splash page to choose a language instead of taking it fully to Japanese.
Languge option works for me, OK it's a USA flag to click and not a Union Jack, but i still see a site in English.
Wierd, I dont know what you are clicking on but the US flag has a link to http://www.ageet.com/us/ and if you click on that it reverts back to Japanese in both IE and FF for me.
I'm sorry, raaj, but unfortunately I have not been able to reproduce your problem using FF 2, IE 6 and 7, Opera and Safari (minor template quirks) from work and home. I haven't tested Firefox 3 and Internet Explorer 8 though as we simply can't support any beta versions. Please have a look at
http://www.ageet.com/us/products-agephone-mobile.htm
for some information about our softphone and go to
http://www.ageet.com/us/download.htm
to download either of our products in a free trial version. Please also clear your browser cache and cookies if you haven't done so already. I hope that this works for you, but if not: The /us/ always turns any page into English if a translation is available. Please let me know if anybody else is having trouble with changing the languages on the page.
AgePhone Mobile
This is the best voip sw I have tried for Windows Mobile.
I have tried:
iFon
SJPhone
Xlite
internal WM6 using Schap settings
Fring
Skype
plus others I forgot.
It displays well on my HTC Advantage with RealVGA at 128dpi, call quality is good, integrates with contacts, works well with my BT headset and is generally slick. Highly recomended, and I don't work for them...
james
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Trick Question, you cant
Is there anyway to choose the codec used, or is it done automatically? I'm running it on a 200MHz phone, and the audio quality was a bit choppy. I checked the server log and it shows capability for g.711u only, but I see on the website that gsm is also available.
Thanks.
bluetooth head does not work on my orbit 2, and the voice comes out of the back speaker as with all the other voip software.
is there something i have done wrong.
@ayking: The codec gets selected automatically and on mobile devices we usually force GSM. You can override the settings in the INI files. Just go to "My Documents / My Phone Booth" and take a look at the sipd.conf. You can find the codec settings under the "General" section as
MediaTypes = 3 0 8 101
where
0 = G.711u
3 = GSM
8 = G.711a
101 = DTMF setting (ignore)
Sometimes this might come out as
MediaTypes = 0 3 8 101
in which case you should change it to the first version that prefers GSM. In general, please try to raise the the jitter buffer in the programs audio settings to 240ms and see if that improves things. If it doesn't help you can also experiment with "OutBufferCnt = 3" in the INI under "Audio". I hope this fixes the choppiness.
@itolson: No, you haven't done anything wrong and neither is it our fault. Most HTC devices simply don't support routing the audio to the earphone speaker and thus you always end up hearing it through the external one. We are keeping an eye on any developments that have been able to fix this for some Japanese WM devices already. That is because contrary to the HTC guys who don't even bother answering our mails Sharp has been a bit less secretive and told us the DeviceIoControl ID of their device so that we could fix the speaker settings.
As for Bluetooth, there is no support for it in the current version of AGEphone and thus you can only use your headset if you use a little hack. Search the forums for "BTAudioToggle.exe" and start it before you make a call with AGEphone. It enables all audio to be routed through the BT headset and also allows you to use the headset microphone. You can automate this process with AGEphone under "Settings - Other" where you can enter "BTAudioToggle.exe" to get started when a call connects and to get disconnected when your call ends. I hope this is of any help until we add official support.
has the software been tested with a connection over gprs / 3g / hdspa or only with wifi?
Is there support for going through the operator proxy ? (there are operators with unlimited 3g plans that only work using the operators proxy)
@trv: We have tested our AGEphone with WiFi, 3G, HSDPA and PHS (EDGE equivalent) and it worked fine on all of them. PHS / EDGE can be a bit borderline though and we didn't include it in our requirements for that reason. It's more than worth a try though.
As for the proxy support, it depends solely on your provider: If they decided to use their proxy to block VoIP traffic you can make AGEphone work only over a VPN or otherwise encrypted connection. Please feel free to try our test version with your provider to see if it works.
Agephone codecs
Falk,
You say you force GSM codec, I see that is that one selected on my implementation. Forgive newby questions, but by GSM do you mean AMR, or AMR-WB with a 16kHz sample? G.711 is an extremely simple algorithm from (1972?) so is not very bandwidth efficient. I'm wondering if there is a route to the high quality sound I get with my laptop/WiFi Voip implementation with my pda over HSDPA using some of the newer bandwidth efficent packet loss tolerant codecs like iLBC, G.729, G.722.2 etc, which I see you have on your desktop version? Is the limit processing complexity in the pda? I know my service provider voiptalk supports iLBC, G.729 and G.722. I know there are license issues with G.729, but not iLBC.
Surely the latest devices (mine has a 624MHz X-Scale, 256M Rom and 128M RAM) could run the advanced codecs? I understand Skype uses their own special sauce, but based on iLBC.
I would really appreciate your expert input here.
Sorry to dive in to all this, but xda-developers is a 'pushing the boundry' type forum!
James
WOW, not to sure about all this, set up servers, limited to 1 minute, have to buy the software. Want to use it for free, then you have to go out and sell the software yourself? Whats next, make money selling the software by having your own sales team? I see another "Work from home" pyramid scheme coming on here, just my skeptical point of view here. I think I'll stick with skype for now, especially since i can answer the call from my home phone, computer, or pda phone since any of these can be logged on at the same time.
@iscajames: Don't be sorry - that's what the thread is there for and I hope that I can answer all your questions! So let's get started: When I wrote GSM I did indeed mean AMR 8 KHz. Right now we limit our AGEphone to ARM and G.711 for simplicities sake and to keep the SIP stack small and efficient. You are right again when you suspect that some of the other codecs put a lot of stress on mobile CPUs, but that is not the main reason.
Codecs like AMR-WB and G.729A cost a lot of initial and licensing fees and so far we simply could not integrate them because of that. We are, however working on a solution to that right now and you might see some additional codecs in our product in the future. iLBC would be possible even now and the only reason so far was that it would add some size and hasn't been requested much by our customers.
I will talk it with our programmers again and see if we can find a good solution for this. I think that iLBC might be a good addition for now - be it for some providers that support it or people using AGEphone in P2P mode.
@NiteStalker: Let me explain a bit to clear up the whole thing for you: First off, this is no pyramid scheme or get "rich with software" scheme. We just thought that it might be a nice idea to reward the people that are helping us to bring our AGEphone a bit further. It's not more than those two licenses that I spoke about in the first post.
And if you use a SIP-softphone then of course you have to register with a SIP-server in order to place your calls. You are also registering with the Skype network anytime you log on. The only difference is that YOU chose the server and by that get much cheaper prices than Skype could ever offer.
They give their software away for free because they hope to hook you up with their service. ageet doesn't offer any phone service. Just see us as a vendor whom you buy your phone from. Without a provider it's nearly worthless as you can just use it in peer to peer mode.
If Skype does what you want to do and does so for a good price then there is no need to use our software. For many people though being locked down to just one network, having to put up with a crappy PPC version, financing Ebay's wish to make some money out of their billion dollar buy ain't all that great and for those AGEphone Mobile might be worth a try
Hey guys does anyone know what is the best recorder to record both sides?
i tried resco audio recorder 4.1 but it only record my side of talkin.
IS THERE ANY SOFTWARE OR HACK TO RECORD BOTH SIDES ?????
what phone are you using? I don't think it can be done w/ the kaiser or hermes, but i could be wrong
You can try also with Vito audio notes
I haven't test it yet so I can"t ensure it will works
I Have the Titan and yes i have tried VITO AudioNotes v1.32 but it it ONLY records my Voice and not THE CALLER VOICE.
there gotta be some kind of Hack or something and there are so many smart people here so PLEASE HELP
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I Have the Titan and yes i have tried VITO AudioNotes v1.32 but it it ONLY records my Voice and not THE CALLER VOICE.
there gotta be some kind of Hack or something and there are so many smart people here so PLEASE HELP
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it records the two sides of the speaker is on
yea but thats not very clear.
try Resco audio recoder
Resco audio recorder records just about everything, it also has an option to record your calls as they are made, and save them to a folder you specify, it's automatic after that, all calls will be recorded and dated, only thing it misses is logging the phone numbers, hope that helps
http://www.resco.net/pocketpc/audiorecorder/
arvinghost said:
Hey guys does anyone know what is the best recorder to record both sides?
i tried resco audio recorder 4.1 but it only record my side of talkin.
IS THERE ANY SOFTWARE OR HACK TO RECORD BOTH SIDES ?????
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Sorry to disappoint you but probably about 90% of HTC devices aren't capable of recording both side of a call unless you use loud speaker. I've tried many voice recording programs if not all of them on my kaiser without any positive results. Apparently it is a hardware limitation as well as one ofthe WM flaws. There was plenty threads on the subject just use search if you want to find out more.
maybe you could run 2 recorders at the same time, one recording from the mic (input) and the other recording from what the speaker hears (output) and then stitch them together using some audio editing tool. I'm sure there is a way to write a program that does all of this automatically on your device, your battery would just run out a lot faster.
who speak that A PHONE was not MADE to record call because HARDWARE THINGS. Is little wrong.
If HTC or any other device can not to record a call, its more because PROGRAM than HARDWARE.
Its just simple, if it is a HARDWARE THING. Standard programs that use AUDIO FILTERS OR LAYERS can not work.
Iam using WOW HD SETTIngs and when i change any seting this change to in phone . so this mean a FILTER can be between the original call and what we can listen, If i can change this so its possible to remap or intercept the audio to. ( HTC UNIVERSAL)
If we don't have Programs that do it its more because be hard to program a filter to each device.
In last CASE we still have Bluettoth , if someone REALLY WANT do a kind or program to record ( i mean loose time doing this). Can use a BT remap layer to a local program, instead a OUTSIDE DEVICE.
I am sure there gotta be some kind of hack to the phone reg. maybe that will allow us to record both sides because once i installed a ROM to my phone i forgot which one it was but i was able to Listen to songs while i was talking on the phone so i am sure that is possible to be done.
Please somebody try to figure it out
PM Recorder does record both side.. it even records bluetooth conversation.. i have owned many wm devices and the last three(benq p51, i780, omnia) i have used all able to record phone conversation using PM recorder.. the only drawback is the format it is saved in.. only the program can play it..
arvinghost said:
I am sure there gotta be some kind of hack to the phone reg. maybe that will allow us to record both sides because once i installed a ROM to my phone i forgot which one it was but i was able to Listen to songs while i was talking on the phone so i am sure that is possible to be done.
Please somebody try to figure it out
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what format does it save in?
forget the posts about ....
vito can make all your jobs - BUT WITHOUT RECORDING the caller's point of view.
these record is only which you hear from speaker to micro -> so that is very noisly - or you can set that the call will be made on speaker, but this is not what you want
i'm playing with pda's the last 10 years - and there is no solution for it.
there is no solution for recording both side from the call !!!
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of course from the technical point of view -> this is possible, but nowbody have develope a tool and the api from MS is not opensource
cu camel
camro said:
forget the posts about ....
vito can make all your jobs - BUT WITHOUT RECORDING the caller's point of view.
these record is only which you hear from speaker to micro -> so that is very noisly - or you can set that the call will be made on speaker, but this is not what you want
i'm playing with pda's the last 10 years - and there is no solution for it.
there is no solution for recording both side from the call !!!
# # #
of course from the technical point of view -> this is possible, but nowbody have develope a tool and the api from MS is not opensource
cu camel
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Not true ... I did managed to get it to work on my ASUS P525 (WM5) using Resco Audio Recorder but not on my TyTnII.
As far as I know, this is illegal in some countries. I looked into a similar program a while back and recording conversations (without the other party knowing up front) is criminal in the U.S.
It's a cool concept and I know it's possible. I got it working once, but for the life of me I can't remember what I used. Beware of the legal issues and good luck getting it to work if you decide to.
it can be done
camro said:
forget the posts about ....
vito can make all your jobs - BUT WITHOUT RECORDING the caller's point of view.
these record is only which you hear from speaker to micro -> so that is very noisly - or you can set that the call will be made on speaker, but this is not what you want
i'm playing with pda's the last 10 years - and there is no solution for it.
there is no solution for recording both side from the call !!!
# # #
of course from the technical point of view -> this is possible, but nowbody have develope a tool and the api from MS is not opensource
cu camel
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I have recorded both sides of a call using the notes record featur. I have a tmo wing and I have no idea what rom i was using seems it changes every week.
"...As far as I know, this is illegal in some countries. I looked into a similar program a while back and recording conversations (without the other party knowing up front) is criminal in the U.S.
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So, if this is TRUE. All nokia with SYBIAN and sony phones i already have in my life are under law.
The only plataform didnt record PHONE CALL is WM and HIGHT TECHS ONES LIKE WM.
The low END phones and SYMBIAN this is a trivial thing.
Iam just looking my sony w300 and t610 here ( 10y old phones?). and they do it, well a lot..
yea my friend has a Nokia phone and he can record both sides AND he lives in the USA.
anyways i tried the vito note but when i have it on recording, I cant make a call or hear anything until i stop the recording.
Also when i am already on the call, Vito does not start the recording why?
By the way i heared that it is possible to record while you are talking on Bluetooth but you need audio gateway driver or something like that ..
ANY IDEAS???????
yes it would be amazing if we could get what seems to be such a simple feature such as call recording on our expensive phones....
even 10 year old phones have this feature... so sad that our phones can do so much yet not this simple little thing.
First please limit the remarks about this is illegal and I am sure those issues vary from state to state and on how it is used...
I am a support tech engineer that handle a lot of conference calls and on my Windows Mobile 6.5 there was a free app on XDA (see below) I used to record calls.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=536472
Resco poplar WM app developer had a paid one
http://www.resco.net/pocketpc/audiorecorder/
Being project manager it is hard to write all the things down on a call so an app that records the calls allow me to playback the call and re-capture all missed items...
So with all due respect I have searched the market and cannot find a good app that records calls...well I only see one out there with bad reviews.
For personal usage and not to misuse, can someone recommend one, or PM me if you have something to share with me? I will gladly so gratitude..
Thx