For all of you who were searching for a decent VoIP Softphone that supports multiple SIP accounts, is not in beta since 2 years ago. doesn't bring your PPC down to a crawl or is nearly unusable, search no longer: We have released our AGEphone Mobile 2 just today and it blows away every competitor from Xlite over SJphone to Skype. Big words? You bet! But why don't you just test it yourself? Just point your browser to http://www.ageet.com/files/AGEphoneMobile2.CAB OR point your cellphone at http://mobileage.notlong.com and install the softphone on your Windows Mobile 5 or 6 device. You can try it as long as you want without any limits but a duration of one minute for each call.
"And, who the heck are you?" I hear you ask. We, that is the ageet Corporation in beautiful (and far) Japan and we simply couldn't stand watching the Windows Mobile VoIP market dragging along... with an SJphone version right out of the stoneage, the wannabe softphone Fring with its horrible interface ans support for but one SIP provider and not to forget Skype which single handedly brings your PPC to the knees should you only think about calling someone. AGEphone does things differently and it does things BETTER (see our press release under http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=372992) and we hope that it will be of good service to many people. And that is where you come into play:
... cause our AGEphone has been in programming for quite a while already, but we know well enough that we are just not there yet. We're selling our software and that is why you can expect only the best. So, why not give the current version a go and let me know what you like and (more importantly) dislike about it. Right now we're working on bluetooth support and chat functions are planned for the future. But I know that there must be many more features that you would like to see in in our program and we don't even have a clue about it... until now. A little post might just be enough to let us know!
And we won't just leave you with the good feeling of having helped out to improve the best VoIP client on the Windows Mobile platform - that's just not enough. And so we put out two free licenses for board members who provide us with the best suggestions (and many ), bug reports and new ideas. And if you are really convinced that AGEphone Mobile is the way to go VoIP and if then you happen to sit in the right seat: We pay well for relayed 3rd party orders and redistribution. So just let us hear from you and the least you get is that we work hard to create a better softphone for you. Whether it will be more depends just on YOU!
Will be nice if you had a proper English web site. Clicking on the English still keeps you at the Jap language. Why come and post here when you cant even get a proper web site with English on??
I'm very sorry for that. The new page is still pretty new and there are some quirks that need to be sorted out. The problem should be fixed by now, but if it persists please PM me your OS and browser version and we will look further into it. Apart from that, rest assured that we can serve you in fluent English, German and Japanese if you give our products a try.
Still doesnt work. Im using Firefox 3.0 Beta. Also tried it in IE, still no dice.
Atleast give a direct link to the English site or have a splash page to choose a language instead of taking it fully to Japanese.
Languge option works for me, OK it's a USA flag to click and not a Union Jack, but i still see a site in English.
Wierd, I dont know what you are clicking on but the US flag has a link to http://www.ageet.com/us/ and if you click on that it reverts back to Japanese in both IE and FF for me.
I'm sorry, raaj, but unfortunately I have not been able to reproduce your problem using FF 2, IE 6 and 7, Opera and Safari (minor template quirks) from work and home. I haven't tested Firefox 3 and Internet Explorer 8 though as we simply can't support any beta versions. Please have a look at
http://www.ageet.com/us/products-agephone-mobile.htm
for some information about our softphone and go to
http://www.ageet.com/us/download.htm
to download either of our products in a free trial version. Please also clear your browser cache and cookies if you haven't done so already. I hope that this works for you, but if not: The /us/ always turns any page into English if a translation is available. Please let me know if anybody else is having trouble with changing the languages on the page.
AgePhone Mobile
This is the best voip sw I have tried for Windows Mobile.
I have tried:
iFon
SJPhone
Xlite
internal WM6 using Schap settings
Fring
Skype
plus others I forgot.
It displays well on my HTC Advantage with RealVGA at 128dpi, call quality is good, integrates with contacts, works well with my BT headset and is generally slick. Highly recomended, and I don't work for them...
james
And a little intro video for your viewing pleasure:
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And a little intro video for your viewing pleasure:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=micq_ghALGk
Prize question: How to integrate videos directly into posts here?
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Trick Question, you cant
Is there anyway to choose the codec used, or is it done automatically? I'm running it on a 200MHz phone, and the audio quality was a bit choppy. I checked the server log and it shows capability for g.711u only, but I see on the website that gsm is also available.
Thanks.
bluetooth head does not work on my orbit 2, and the voice comes out of the back speaker as with all the other voip software.
is there something i have done wrong.
@ayking: The codec gets selected automatically and on mobile devices we usually force GSM. You can override the settings in the INI files. Just go to "My Documents / My Phone Booth" and take a look at the sipd.conf. You can find the codec settings under the "General" section as
MediaTypes = 3 0 8 101
where
0 = G.711u
3 = GSM
8 = G.711a
101 = DTMF setting (ignore)
Sometimes this might come out as
MediaTypes = 0 3 8 101
in which case you should change it to the first version that prefers GSM. In general, please try to raise the the jitter buffer in the programs audio settings to 240ms and see if that improves things. If it doesn't help you can also experiment with "OutBufferCnt = 3" in the INI under "Audio". I hope this fixes the choppiness.
@itolson: No, you haven't done anything wrong and neither is it our fault. Most HTC devices simply don't support routing the audio to the earphone speaker and thus you always end up hearing it through the external one. We are keeping an eye on any developments that have been able to fix this for some Japanese WM devices already. That is because contrary to the HTC guys who don't even bother answering our mails Sharp has been a bit less secretive and told us the DeviceIoControl ID of their device so that we could fix the speaker settings.
As for Bluetooth, there is no support for it in the current version of AGEphone and thus you can only use your headset if you use a little hack. Search the forums for "BTAudioToggle.exe" and start it before you make a call with AGEphone. It enables all audio to be routed through the BT headset and also allows you to use the headset microphone. You can automate this process with AGEphone under "Settings - Other" where you can enter "BTAudioToggle.exe" to get started when a call connects and to get disconnected when your call ends. I hope this is of any help until we add official support.
has the software been tested with a connection over gprs / 3g / hdspa or only with wifi?
Is there support for going through the operator proxy ? (there are operators with unlimited 3g plans that only work using the operators proxy)
@trv: We have tested our AGEphone with WiFi, 3G, HSDPA and PHS (EDGE equivalent) and it worked fine on all of them. PHS / EDGE can be a bit borderline though and we didn't include it in our requirements for that reason. It's more than worth a try though.
As for the proxy support, it depends solely on your provider: If they decided to use their proxy to block VoIP traffic you can make AGEphone work only over a VPN or otherwise encrypted connection. Please feel free to try our test version with your provider to see if it works.
Agephone codecs
Falk,
You say you force GSM codec, I see that is that one selected on my implementation. Forgive newby questions, but by GSM do you mean AMR, or AMR-WB with a 16kHz sample? G.711 is an extremely simple algorithm from (1972?) so is not very bandwidth efficient. I'm wondering if there is a route to the high quality sound I get with my laptop/WiFi Voip implementation with my pda over HSDPA using some of the newer bandwidth efficent packet loss tolerant codecs like iLBC, G.729, G.722.2 etc, which I see you have on your desktop version? Is the limit processing complexity in the pda? I know my service provider voiptalk supports iLBC, G.729 and G.722. I know there are license issues with G.729, but not iLBC.
Surely the latest devices (mine has a 624MHz X-Scale, 256M Rom and 128M RAM) could run the advanced codecs? I understand Skype uses their own special sauce, but based on iLBC.
I would really appreciate your expert input here.
Sorry to dive in to all this, but xda-developers is a 'pushing the boundry' type forum!
James
WOW, not to sure about all this, set up servers, limited to 1 minute, have to buy the software. Want to use it for free, then you have to go out and sell the software yourself? Whats next, make money selling the software by having your own sales team? I see another "Work from home" pyramid scheme coming on here, just my skeptical point of view here. I think I'll stick with skype for now, especially since i can answer the call from my home phone, computer, or pda phone since any of these can be logged on at the same time.
@iscajames: Don't be sorry - that's what the thread is there for and I hope that I can answer all your questions! So let's get started: When I wrote GSM I did indeed mean AMR 8 KHz. Right now we limit our AGEphone to ARM and G.711 for simplicities sake and to keep the SIP stack small and efficient. You are right again when you suspect that some of the other codecs put a lot of stress on mobile CPUs, but that is not the main reason.
Codecs like AMR-WB and G.729A cost a lot of initial and licensing fees and so far we simply could not integrate them because of that. We are, however working on a solution to that right now and you might see some additional codecs in our product in the future. iLBC would be possible even now and the only reason so far was that it would add some size and hasn't been requested much by our customers.
I will talk it with our programmers again and see if we can find a good solution for this. I think that iLBC might be a good addition for now - be it for some providers that support it or people using AGEphone in P2P mode.
@NiteStalker: Let me explain a bit to clear up the whole thing for you: First off, this is no pyramid scheme or get "rich with software" scheme. We just thought that it might be a nice idea to reward the people that are helping us to bring our AGEphone a bit further. It's not more than those two licenses that I spoke about in the first post.
And if you use a SIP-softphone then of course you have to register with a SIP-server in order to place your calls. You are also registering with the Skype network anytime you log on. The only difference is that YOU chose the server and by that get much cheaper prices than Skype could ever offer.
They give their software away for free because they hope to hook you up with their service. ageet doesn't offer any phone service. Just see us as a vendor whom you buy your phone from. Without a provider it's nearly worthless as you can just use it in peer to peer mode.
If Skype does what you want to do and does so for a good price then there is no need to use our software. For many people though being locked down to just one network, having to put up with a crappy PPC version, financing Ebay's wish to make some money out of their billion dollar buy ain't all that great and for those AGEphone Mobile might be worth a try
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Now you will not have to be worry about make your calls,send sms..and be spyed.
This software promise to encrypt entire GSM data.
Realized on a Q-Tek 2020 Hardware
http://www.caspertech.com/prodotti.php
Sorry if this is a stupid question but, having looked at the web site briefly it seems to me that this will only work between two devices both equiped with the Cryptech software?
unapproachable2kx said:
Now you will not have to be worry about make your calls,send sms..and be spyed.
This software promise to encrypt entire GSM data.
Realized on a Q-Tek 2020 Hardware
http://www.caspertech.com/prodotti.php
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This looks very similar to http://www.cryptophone.nl/
Except that cryptophone is open source, and the CasparTech product uses "proprietary encryption algorithms" - I wonder if these CasparTech guys wrote their application from scratch.
If you don't care about being able to see the source (i.e. if you don't care about backdoors -- remember Crypto A.G.?) you could also use skype, although that uses GPRS rather than a connection directly to another xda2 device with crypto software on in. Depending on the codec's bitrate and your GPRS plan, using GPRS/voip on skype may work out more/less expensive when you use it.
The fine people at http://www.cryptophone.nl/ also offer a windows version for your at-home/work PC or laptop to use with a landline for free, and the source code is right there on their website for all to see. Their product is NOT cheap, but knowing that it's secure should be worth it to those who have the need for it (e.g. big business, politicians, etc.)
(There is no pricing on that Caspartech page, so who knows what it costs..)
The http://www.cryptophone.nl/ people also founded xda-developers.com btw.
A PPC version of speakfreely (google for it, it's cool) would be a Nice Thing To Have.
Is there anyone who has done this, kind of like recording the phonecall... Though my query is slightly more advanced, I would like to see a Crypto program creating secure phonecalls using WM5...
So we would need to capture the datastream incoming(to decrypt) and outgoing to crypt, this creating a nice safe way to talk to your...friends... Anyone else up for this project?
Or any feedback on the concept?
...and...
i dont think its only me intrested in this so ill send this source code aswell from a company that works from a PC via isdn... This company sells cellphones with encryption...
http://www.cryptophone.de/support/downloads/downloads.html
Dont know if this could help in the initial stage?
Ps.
A similar software does exist (180 dollars per phone + all your details are sent to australian gov) www.securegsm.com
Anyone up for the task?
Re: ...and...
it is impossible to intercept the audio data coming through PPC unless your hardware is specially designed for it and it provides you a specialized API for doing that. All crypting software encrypts calls via doing CSD calls and senging data. There is another program - www.cryptophone.de
this looks like a HTC anyway...
http://www.cryptophone.de/products/CP220/index.html
???
Then how can secureGSM do it in a software made for any WM5?
So theoretically i dont think there is a problem there....
SecureGSM is an end to end app, which I suppose all such apps would have to be.
As such, it almost certainly doesn't need to pick up the phone/modem audio path (which as Mamaich says, seems to be impossible without a particular hardware implementation), but just use the normal microphone and loudspeaker recording/playback functions.
V
AddeBC,
Vijay is right. SecureGSM is working on the same principal as criptophone.
Establish a modem connection between two devices running the same software run a negociation with the network (v.110 is much faster then v.32) start a data connection with the other dude...the stream that the mic receives is encrypted and sent over to the other party there the software decrypts the stream and plays it troughout the speaker.
There were quite a few threads regarding csd connections between phones so could start from there.
The only thing that you're going to miss in this deal is the logistic for selling the software + phone.
Cheers,
Raul
I often thought of adding this as a feature of GSMbeam but I just can't think when I would ever really need it. It would be cool to communicate without the possibility of Big Brother knowing what is said, but what would you say?
To sell this kind of software may also bring you in contact with undesirable groups, criminals or terrorists are propably in need of good voice call encryption.
To do this it will have to have a reletively low quality of sound because of the poor data rate on voice calls. How would one go about encoding the sound to data? Are there any off the shelf open ended codecs for this purpose or would the work need to be done from scratch?
OdeeanRDeathshead said:
......To sell this kind of software may also bring you in contact with undesirable groups, criminals or terrorists are propably in need of good voice call encryption....
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as per SecureGSM FAQ:
http://www.securegsm.com/pages.php?pageid=16#4
Is your software designed to support criminals and terrorists?
Absolutely not! We do not condone any such activities, and take extreme care to ensure that our products are used to prevent, rather than encourage criminal or terrorist behavior.
AddeBC
AddeBC said:
A similar software does exist (180 dollars per phone + all your details are sent to australian gov)
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End User Details are being collected as part of identity verification procedure.
First name, Second Name, living address, phone number and contact email address. I suppose, this is standard practice. We do not support criminals and terrorists and would not sell if in doubt.. At the same time our software does just what is says to do: encrypts phone conversation end to end to the military standards and beyond.
It is buyer's resposibility to provide correct information on the order form.
see this page for details:
http://www.securegsm.com/pages.php?pageid=26
Also, I suppose providing end user information to the Australian Government does not automaticaly lead to the conclusion that SecureGSM is flawed or insecure, has master key, back door or leaving any other way to interfere with contents of SecureGSM encrypted conversation. And no! Big Brother does not know what is said..
Any way, if terrorists or any of the countries listed there want call encryption they would not trust their lives to someone elses software. I am sure they are smart enough to write their own.
As for the laws governing the sale, that just makes me mad. I do not trust John Howard, I think I should have the right to a private conversation without registering it with him. I guess that is the beauty of computers. Computers make the world go round and its the size of your brain that gets results not politics.
Well, for a less.. 'big brother-ish' scenario, I would, personally like to have my line phone to be encrypted, as it is way much easier to have someone bugging your phone line.
However, for a cell/mobile phone, it is relatively difficult for amateur people to bug it, right? What are the chances that someone around you that is interested on your conversations, is capable of intercepting your mobile/cell phone calls.
Raseac Secure Phone - for WM 2003 and WM 2003 SE
This looks worthwhile! Downloads are available from the website for testing.
[Also, as a side note, I have been in touch with Phil Zimmermann, the creator of PGP, and lately of Zfone (crypto SIP phone for XP/Linux/Mac), and he says he realizes the importance of the Pocket PC platform and is considering ways of implementing Zfone for Pocket PC.]
Code:
http://www.raseac.com.br/
Encryption system for end-to-end secure voice communication. It was developed to be used in palmtop computers running Microsoft PocketPC 2003 e 2003SE (Intel).
When installed in a palmtop connected via modem to a telephony system (fixed or mobile), it allows your company and your business a secure means of communication anywhere around the world.
Since Raseac encryption technology was developed for high capacity processors, it allowed for the implementation of state of the art security, featuring:
* Exceptional sound quality;
* 256-bit encryption key;
* Encryption technology based on the Rijndael block cipher (AES);
* CBC, Random IV, Time Stamp, Integrity check by MAC/SHA-256;
* 100% protected against "man in the middle attack";
* No backdoor.
Need for secure phone line; the brazilian site and others
Well, I'd say that common people don't have much to worry about being tapped... Usually, nothing that sensitive is talken EVER over line.
Things begin to change when you are involved with something sensitive, be that legal or not. Most of the guies who work with corps, above management level may have some need from time to time, to be contacted that way by a superior. From director and up, depending on what kind of business the company is into, it IS a must!
People who work with security, government and other agencies may need it. As already said, people who work with barely legal to blatantly criminal stuff are always in need of such trappings. I think terrorists end-up on that class.
Equipment, hard and soft is always expensive and cost prohibitive for most of us.
Paranoid, techno-junkies and just curious people may want it, just to have.
Since I fit two or three of the said categories, I would like to put a program like that on my cell phone...
Just for the sake of having it there!
(mind you! Curious, telecom and management+ position...)
That said, a basic voice scramble-de-scramble program is OK for me!!!
(the more open-source, the better!)
About the brazilian company, they changed the site's name to secvoice. I tried to have a look-see on their specs but they ignored my e-mail and so I've done with it.
Hi all I am just wondering when the Jasjam will be out in Australia? Also would you recommend it? If not what would you recommend? Thanks heaps.
The jasjam is expected to come out in Australia sometime between when hell freezes over and when Telstra gets their act together. Telstra has an exclusive deal to sell the imate jasjam up until xmas or there abouts. Its expected to launch late sept/early october on Telstra.
Additionally Dopod in conjunction with 3 will launch the Dopod 838Pro later this month or early next month, this is a similar device to the jasjam just different rom/bundled software/casing and the dopod is expected to be alot cheaper then the imate, imate are charging more for their variant for some reason.
I would recommend any Hermes device, bar the CHT 9000 and any O2 Asia variants. I found the TyTN very useful, fast, efficient, light weight, and whilst I liked the 'spacier' button layout of the TyTN the M3100 (also same layout as Jasjam and dopod 838Pro) was still all of the above just a little less room for error with the buttons and when your in a hurry.
Thanks heaps for all the info it has really helped!!!!!
One question how would the warranty work if I got one from U.K or USA on E-bay?
Osir1s I take it that you have got a tytn? Ifso where did you get it? If you don't mind my asking how much did you pay for it? Thanks heaps.
Osir1s would it be OK if I added you to my MSN Messenger contacts?
Regardless of whether you purchase a jasjam, tytn, dopod, etc etc since none are currently sold in Australia all of them will carry an international warranty. HTC Warranty is very good as its international and transferrable, i-mate for example can be real pricks with their warranties from time to time, dopod im not sure about etc.
You may also be interested to know if you really want a jasjam expansys newzealand, not AU but the new zealand website can sell the jasjams to Australians however you will pay $1410 for it.
I purchased my TyTN through ebay, but look around there are plenty of stores selling TyTNs, its the dopods, jasjams, trions that are harder to come by. I have no experience with these people but alot of ppl on these boards in another thread recommend www.smart-mobile-gadgets.com or MadMonkeyBoys website whatever that is.
For a TyTN you shouldnt pay more then $1100AU put it that way. obviously as aforementioned jasjams etc will set you back more, but for the TyTN no more then $1100AU, maybe $1120 at absolutely max depending on the exchange rate at the time.
I hope this has been of some help.
Any news on the release date?
it will be released around christmas time. This device is currently tested and configured for telstra 3G wap portal.
That long?
DOPOD is officilally launched as business in Australia in Sydney last week.
both DOPOD 838 pro and DOPD 595 are coming to Australia and will be disrtibuted by 3 Networks and OPTUS. Also, thanks to Brightpoint, these models will be also available in retail chains.
yeah, they tried to implement it into their DB device but fails due to the firmware problem. [ Can not Stream the live video and video on demand ]. However, their appointed partner ( which I can not tell you - I am working for that company ) is working on it and this device is going to deploy sometime next week.
Australian avail..
Good to hear. I also heard a date next week for something related, and think there would be a very big hole if Jasjam isn't part of it.
but, does this mean it will launch feature-incomplete with a promise that "the rest will come real soon now"?
godtakeit said:
yeah, they tried to implement it into their DB device but fails due to the firmware problem. [ Can not Stream the live video and video on demand ]. However, their appointed partner ( which I can not tell you - I am working for that company ) is working on it and this device is going to deploy sometime next week.
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So you have been working on a software solution to stream real media??? or am I reading to much into this?
Because I have a JasJar, and still to date, have been unable to watch any video streams at all.
Would be really intersted to hear what you were working on.....
In the past, Telstra 3G live stream only supports 3GP and RM (Real Media ) since there is no PDA device in their so-called marketing list. However, they decide to bring PDA into the market and support wm9 format.
Problem is, Windows Media Player connects into the media server but fails to extract and pick up the correct video format ( for the optimal & performance purposes ). We found firmware isn't compatible with media stream server. Solution is to let Telstra deal with their supplier instead of putting this job to us.
Not only this device, they also bring new palm PDA devices ( which run WM5 AKU 2.x ) as well as new blackberry.
Sometimes during Christmas, you guys will see bounch of new devices release to market. I think it will be sold around 1100 AUD.
To gunigugu
You won't be able to stream at all because Jasjar is not in their 3G DB device list. Only those devices that are in that list will be able to load 3G WAP Portal and stream. There are 2 conditions to stream video content :
1. Your device is in DB device list
2. You are active subscriber ( either Telstra or 3 )
Same to anyone who has problem with 3 Provider. They restricted number of devices that can connect and view any video content from their WAP site.
If you want to view the 3 or Telstra WAP portal, you have to modify the User Profile, UA differences to any devices which are currently supported by 3 or Telstra. I can list some of them ( Sony Ericsson K600i, K610, Motorola V3x, Nokia N70, N80, Samsung Z150, Z400, Z510 and some other devices I can not remember their model No ) .
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To gunigugu
You won't be able to stream at all because Jasjar is not in their 3G DB device list. Only those devices that are in that list will be able to load 3G WAP Portal and stream. There are 2 conditions to stream video content :
1. Your device is in DB device list
2. You are active subscriber ( either Telstra or 3 )
Same to anyone who has problem with 3 Provider. They restricted number of devices that can connect and view any video content from their WAP site.
If you want to view the 3 or Telstra WAP portal, you have to modify the User Profile, UA differences to any devices which are currently supported by 3 or Telstra. I can list some of them ( Sony Ericsson K600i, K610, Motorola V3x, Nokia N70, N80, Samsung Z150, Z400, Z510 and some other devices I can not remember their model No ) .
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Thanks for the tip, we (the guys on the universal forum) have worked this out already...
But we've ran into 2 hurdles:
1: Streaming video. It seems purely software, in that we can't find any software capable of playing real media streams compatiable with windows mobile 2005.
We are all able to access the web portal, and get anything we like, just when it comes to streaming, the software isn't working properly.
Any advice?
2: MMS For some reason, regardless of the settings used, we just can not get it to send/recieve. We are able to see the headers, but thats it.
Thanks for any help or information you can provide. We are all very greatful.
To gunigugu
Your problem :
1. Streaming video. It seems purely software, in that we can't find any software capable of playing real media streams compatiable with windows mobile 2005.
It is because the User Profile that you used for HTC Universal or any PDA devices belongs to other device that has different method of handling video stream & method calls. Modified trick is only applied when you want to browse Provider's WAP site. Real Media for PPC has different way of handling method calls ( get content function, trigger media manager of device function, create secure & authenticate user & device & connection function) than Real Media for S60, Symbian.
Soon they put TyTn into their DB list, ( I think 3 will do the same with their PDA devices which are running WM5 ). you can use those's User profile to enjoy streaming content. But for now, I don't think you can.
2. MMS For some reason, regardless of the settings used, we just can not get it to send/recieve. We are able to see the headers, but thats it
I don't know much about MMS because it is handled by other groups.
From my understanding, there are 2 checks on MMS server
1. Check device to see whether it is capable of MMS or not
2. Same network's subscribers.
I have not seen any reason why we can not send MMS, no idea but I can find out more infos about this.
My group is responsible for Content delivery platform and Multimedia services.
Hope it helps
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To gunigugu
Your problem :
1. Streaming video. It seems purely software, in that we can't find any software capable of playing real media streams compatiable with windows mobile 2005.
It is because the User Profile that you used for HTC Universal or any PDA devices belongs to other device that has different method of handling video stream & method calls. Modified trick is only applied when you want to browse Provider's WAP site. Real Media for PPC has different way of handling method calls ( get content function, trigger media manager of device function, create secure & authenticate user & device & connection function) than Real Media for S60, Symbian.
Soon they put TyTn into their DB list, ( I think 3 will do the same with their PDA devices which are running WM5 ). you can use those's User profile to enjoy streaming content. But for now, I don't think you can.
2. MMS For some reason, regardless of the settings used, we just can not get it to send/recieve. We are able to see the headers, but thats it
I don't know much about MMS because it is handled by other groups.
From my understanding, there are 2 checks on MMS server
1. Check device to see whether it is capable of MMS or not
2. Same network's subscribers.
I have not seen any reason why we can not send MMS, no idea but I can find out more infos about this.
My group is responsible for Content delivery platform and Multimedia services.
Hope it helps
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Man, your amazing!
Where the hell have you been, most of us, on the universal thread, have been pulling our hair out, trying to organise this!!!
So would I be right in assuming, that the TyTn will be the first WM2005 built into the database.
Does WM2005 go into more specifics such as model number, i.e. JasJar and TyTn. OR am I to assume, that after they are done putting TyTn into the db list, that my universal, will work perfectly with the portal.
BTW, can I ask, what software have you used, to play the real media streams? As this is an area we've had alot of trouble with in relation to wm2005.
In the past, Telstra had planned to bring Jasjar into AUST market but they were never done it. ( I don't know why - my assumption is because this device is too big and most of mobile user in Australia is only care about size and fashion phone than the phone that has lots of functionalities ).
It was a mistake and in order to correct their mistake and trying to gain PDA market share ( they lost PDA market to 3 for Motorola A1000, Motorola A925, Nokia E61 - All are running Symbian OS with Real Player installed), tyTn and other WM5 devices are tested and ready to be released.
Don't know about the price yet but they bought tytn through I-mate with HTC supported .
Like I said before, Telstra has no intention of bringing Jasjar into this market ( maybe they will change in the future but who knows, they used to bring Nokia 9500 device into Market ) . Because Jasjar and tytn share the same operating system as well as stream media player ( they will be built with AKU 2.x ) therefore, the User Profile's modification will work with Streaming media thing. Still you have to modify your header. ( put Tytn's User profile into Jasjar, it will do the trick )
Telstra will put WM9 into their media server. Nothing secrets, it is a plain Windows Media Player 10. RM can be played through customised RealMedia Player for ppc. That's what we have got in here
I'm wondering if there are any Gnutella-clients, or other software, for WM that allows music searching/downloading. Would be nice to be able to download tracks on the go.
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double-post... sorry
well.......
You can always use a remote connection to your PC to download tracks, then transfer to your phone via Orb or something.
The problem with Gnutella for WM-
1. Legality- Service providers don't want their data being used to dl music illegally and afraid of being sued
2. Bandwidth- Same as above except without the "and afraid of being sued"
This might even get categorized as a warez post, but probably not.
But i digress. I must point out that the bandwidth that you would need would only be available via wi-fi, effectively killing the idea of "on-the-go"
ANd besides, the artists do good work. Let them get paid. Read my sig, just replace "using warez" with "Downloading music illegally"
pocket G2pro
i will give you a clue but i cant give you direct link in xda.software calls pocket g2pro that will allow to download music from gunutella network.cheers
yeh but g2pro has been offline for at least a few months if not a year they shut off their servers it appears so thats not an option.
i dont think p2p software is warez. the program itself is simply a program if someone codes it and offers it for free then its no worse than any other developed program in here. Im sure modding the HTC programs and puling them from the ROMs brings up all sorts of IP violations (for all you law buffs you know what im saying) technically. Im simpler terms i doubt modding and pulling HTC copyrighted software is exactly "legal" per say.
what you do with it is your own morality IMO. the p2p program in itself isnt warez though if its developed and offered for free
As far as the piracy-question is concerned; there are legal files on the Gnutella network aswell and it is off course only these I'm interested in. Like songs from some local emo-goth band and such. Ya. Bandwidth isn't a problem since I live in Sweden and have an unlimited HSDPA data-plan. Even if used strictly via WiFi it would still come in handy in my opinion. But it seems I'm out of luck though, doesn't it? Are there any good BitTorrent clients perhaps?
yes there is very nice bittorent client which calls adiasta bittorrent...also g2pro network is down but you can always add manuel gunetalla network.it was under the settings but i cant remember know.could you plase check ipmart-forum.you can get your answer guys.just check the under the ppc section forum.good luck..
ok, not warez. there are just some very radical people here that would categorize it as such. But yeah......
pocket g2pro alive and well
http://forum.htcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=492
http://www.skype.com/intl/en-gb/download/skype/windowsmobilebeta/
New in this beta version:
Send files.
Free to send spreadsheets, photos, music and other files Skype-to-Skype.
Send texts (SMS). Great value texts to mobiles abroad, and a great way to avoid roaming charges abroad if you text on Skype from a WiFi zone.
Available in Skype 3.0 Beta for Windows® Phones
Free Skype-to-Skype calls.
Free instant messaging.
Call phones and mobiles with Skype Credit or a subscription.
Current version: 3.0.0.100 Release date: March 24, 2009
Is it SIP aware version? They promised...
Can i choose wich speaker to use with this new release?
First bug to report:
you cannot send file from your storage card... only from internal memory!!!
Is there VIDEO Call option when using the X1? Video receive/send? Or only voice calling using skype mobile?
Thanks
Nope, you still can't. I remember reading somewhere that some Skype dev said it's a WinMo issue, not theirs. :/
Hm, if that would be the case, why didn't anybody come up with a solution? I mean they cook here entire roms so perhaps some smart allek would have 'altered' somehow some .dll file and made it work???
But if the fault is on skype's side, nothing can actually be done.
Is there any other software out there that can use the camera function in a camera phone over the internet?
Regards
michaelthemage said:
Hm, if that would be the case, why didn't anybody come up with a solution? I mean they cook here entire roms so perhaps some smart allek would have 'altered' somehow some .dll file and made it work???
But if the fault is on skype's side, nothing can actually be done.
Is there any other software out there that can use the camera function in a camera phone over the internet?
Regards
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Yes but in very poor quality: http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/projects/portrait/default.aspx
wow, thanks for that link...it sounds interesting. As it seems to be 'older' as it states WM5(!) and we are now not even at 6 but 6.1...! Perhaps they don't develop it anymore.
Would be great to get the built in cameras to work while on "internet chat" wouldn't it
I thought I read somewhere that Skype's problem with video calling was the data usage. I think there may be movement to get it going on WiFi only, which would be nice for a lot of users.
You can try ivisit. not to bad. only problem is i cant find how to change the camera from the back to the front view camera.