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call recorder software needed!

Hi there,
I need software to record a call..
just as eRecorder for symbian devices..
I know you can record stuff with the record button.. but if you record a call and listen it back you can't hear the person you where talkin with..
So if someone has or knows a programm like that please let me know!

As a holdover, use the speakerphone and it will record the conversation.

Calavaro said:
As a holdover, use the speakerphone and it will record the conversation.
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It does work although it is pretty ridiculous that it has to record from the speakerphone and cannot record from the internal input!
I second the need for something that can record a call.
As well, does anyone know if it is possible to play audio over a voice call?

dannygelens said:
Hi there,
I need software to record a call..
just as eRecorder for symbian devices..
I know you can record stuff with the record button.. but if you record a call and listen it back you can't hear the person you where talkin with..
So if someone has or knows a programm like that please let me know!
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Are you gathering evidence for legal matters?

i just wanna record calls cuz most calls are funny..
and then place them on my website.. (http://www.dannygelens.nl.tt)(4 dutch viewers)
I did it with eRecorder for the nokia 7650 and the quality was great.. so i think its weird u cant do it with a windows mobile device..
if u record it while speakerphone on.. the sound (from the person ur talkin with)still is very bad

This functionality was deliberately disabled by Microsoft because of the legal implications (e.g. in many countries not allowed to record phone calls without the other party's consent).

Ineedtoys said:
This functionality was deliberately disabled by Microsoft because of the legal implications (e.g. in many countries not allowed to record phone calls without the other party's consent).
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Ah the hypocracy of it all! MS will go through the effort to take a legal position on whether or not users of their software should be allowed to record a conversation yet at the same time they continuously push the limit for which they disregard anti-competitive legislation. Its about the same as the UK mobile operators thinking they have some sort of moral obligation to protect us from dangerous content with their content control systems. Gee! Thanks!
Anyway, back to the topic. I am sure there is some third party app out there that will record a conversation so I can do my interviews without having to haul around heaps of kit.

Yeah its pretty ridiculous. I've been interviewing people via phone recently and its incedible that this self-proclaimed "smartphone" cannot even help me take audio notes.
Its not for Microsoft to police that - not any more than they police the use of the camera in the same device!!
And the Speakerphone work around is not viable becuase of the poor quality of both incoming and out going sound. On speakerphone, I can barely hear people - and they dont hear me well at all. I cant use that for business purposes at all.

You could apply this argument to all telephones - landline included. I don't see many people complaining that they don't have a record facility built in. There are plenty of devices available for those which allow you to record conversations.
If you have a specific need to regularly record conversations, it's not exactly difficult, just take a feed from the headphone socket. After all, you'll be doing it in a controlled environment to comply with the law, won't you?

Its not a 20 quid dumb home phone. Its a 400 quid PDA mobile phone that markets itself has having a built in voice recorder. So I expect it to record conversation - just like any Nokie Series 60 phone can do. Or are you claiming that Nokia is violating any law? Yeah right....
I dont have to be a call center to have reason to record a call. Any person working on business can immediately see the value of recording something while you're on the run so you can remember details - it is a mobile, phone after all.

I didn't even notice that they removed this function until checking just now. Used to be there in the old WM 2003, but in 2003SE on the Magician it seems to be gone!
Legal matters?
It is just a matter of time until a third party developer solves this for us.

Privacy laws are hard won and there for a reason, and even Nokia warn you that you must use the facility in compliance with local laws and regulations. There's a good guide to the UK regulations here:-
http://www.callcorder.com/phone-recording-law-uk.htm
It's another discussion entirely wether the means should be given for a anyone to flout the law so easily, but Microsoft obviously thought it wasn't worth the risk of litigation to be held as an accessory to this. I guess they spend enough time in court as it is

Ineedtoys said:
Privacy laws are hard won and there for a reason, and even Nokia warn you that you must use the facility in compliance with local laws and regulations. There's a good guide to the UK regulations here:-
http://www.callcorder.com/phone-recording-law-uk.htm
It's another discussion entirely wether the means should be given for a anyone to flout the law so easily, but Microsoft obviously thought it wasn't worth the risk of litigation to be held as an accessory to this. I guess they spend enough time in court as it is
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Based on that logic, the mobile phone should really be a non-functional door stop. Otherwise one could equally:
- lie, defraud, harrass, etc. others with voice calls
- do the same with text and MMS
- download copyright protected content without permission from the Internet using GPRS
- illicitly record and distribute fims in the cinema using the camera
- violate people's privacy by taking compromising photos of them in the toilet
- provide illegal live pornographic video calls over 3G
- spread a virus using bluetooth
- gain illegal access to someone's network using WiFi
and God forbid even worse:
- disturb the viewing public by letting your phone ring in the cinema!
- annoy the hell out of everyone with really bad ringtones!
So my question to you is where does corporate responsibility and liability end and the unwanted nanny begin? I would argue that if there is a legitimate use for a feature then it should not be precluded simply because there is an equal risk of it being misused. The only exception would be if this misuse were to cause serious consequences. And let's face facts; recording a phone call without informing the other party doesn't exactly harm them much at all. After all, it is legally inadmissable as evidence.
Finally, if I were MS I would worry more about paying the European Union EUR497M in fines because I was stupid enough to provoke them with anti-competitive practices.

In Sweden you are allowed to record a phone call that you take part of without informing the other party. And you will be able to use it as evidence in a legal trial.
So right now I am a bit pissed off at Microsoft for removing that feature.

Had a look in the Resco Recorder forums and it seems like they are working on a solution. Unless Microsoft brings it back into the OS Resco may have a real big seller coming up!

Resco Audio Recorder works perfectly. I know because I tried it. My and my caller voices were recorded.

Yazzon said:
Resco Audio Recorder works perfectly. I know because I tried it. My and my caller voices were recorded.
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Good man! I will give it a try.

You can perfectly record voice notes with Windows Mobile any version.
This is sold as "Voice Recorder" and you can "voice record" any note.
It is by no mean sold as "Phone Call recorder".

unlockMe said:
You can perfectly record voice notes with Windows Mobile any version.
This is sold as "Voice Recorder" and you can "voice record" any note.
It is by no mean sold as "Phone Call recorder".
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Just tried it. It records my voice alright, but what the other party says is not recorded.

The CHT version HP6365 has the internal record function, and the voice record of the other party is clear. So, why Magicain and all its other veriosn block the function???

Recording Phone Conversations for your XDA Mini et.al.

I need a software that can record phone conversations. Is this possible?

Try Vito Soundexplorer or Resco AudioRecorder, both work fine to record calls

unfortunatelly, internal magician architecture don't allow to record phone conversation in correct way.
htc use separate dedicated processor (TI's TCS2011 chip, ARM7TDMI archtecture) which handles gsm calls and has no voice channel with main CPU
so use handsfree mode and any recording software, but you will record not from phone line, but from air

anansky, I don't know if it was over the air or from the phone....but it worked very well with Vito SoundExplorer without any handsfree....

You may also want to read http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=513&more=1 on this subject - it gives a nice overview of what you can expect from PPC PE devices and what applications there're to (even automatically) record phone calls.

A software for recording calls

Hi guys! Do you know if there's a way to record a conversation on the Prophet (ita version). I'd be thankful for some sugestions..thanx

Search is your friend :wink:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=40100&highlight=poll
And Menneisyys' post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=40429&highlight=poll
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Cant record you conversation because hardware limit. You can only record when you turn loud spearker on but quality is very low

check this out - works great on windows mobile smartphone, but i haven't checked how good or bad the pocket pc version is:
http://www.1800message.com/default.aspx
regards, lutz

IDEA - Use bluetooth
I understand that that there is a hardware limitation to record both parties during a phone call (probably the manner the sound is routed).
However, maybe the following idea could work:
Use the bluetooth inteface (handset service) to do the same job. I assume that any program could have access to the data that are send to the handset. Maybe, with the proper software or drivers, one could for instance save the bluetooth binary stream on the ram/rom and convert it later on to an audible format (I do not propose decoding on the fly since this might be too much for the processor)..
What do you think?
Regards
Evans

It's a good idea! But you must have "Windows CE programing skill" to do that. Ask some software company, may be they will help Us.

Evans_Prophet: you might want to do a bit more reading on the board. We've had discussions about this before - Mamaich informed us that the bluetooth audio path is hardwired and is independant of the OS.
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Thanks from Achille2005
Lots of thanx for you all just from achille2005.
Regards

Background Music while calling

Did anyone have or can develop the software that can put music or sound recorded to play while you 're talking on the phone, like the Background Music or Call Cheating in Symbian (Nokia).
I'm searching for this type of program for long long time still can't find it.
Any comments ,pleaseeeee

My question is very similar...
I've searched for a registry setting for my HTC Touch to disable the muting effect of an in-process phone call to enable Media Player to play sound.
I found only one instance of a registry setting... it was to change HKCU-Control Panel-SoundCategories-Attenuation
In this key, I have
0...0x0(0)
1...0x1(1)
2...0x2(2)
I've found one post where it says to change 0...0x0(0) to 0...0x0(1)
When I do this, I get
0...0x1(1)
1...0x1(1)
2...0x2(2)
and I am still unable to play a wav file during a phone call.
If we can get past these registry issues, you can play any music you want to just using media player.

This is because it's not possible to send sounds/music to the caller.
Thats also the reason why the "Answering Machine" uses the speaker to shout your message out loud, instead of sending the message directly.

Gigabyte can do
I heard that one model in the past of Gigabyte can do background sound while calling. The program named "Wise Talk" but only in this model. wonder whether can extract out to share other ppc or not.

kriengkrai said:
I heard that one model in the past of Gigabyte can do background sound while calling. The program named "Wise Talk" but only in this model. wonder whether can extract out to share other ppc or not.
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It is a hardware issue - not a software problem.
Most Windows Mobile devices have the phone sound hardwired and not accessible via software.
Only possibility might be via the headset channel

I think it is possible.
How come iSecretary can play your recording out loud while the caller is listening to your recording.

yes it plays it out LOUD!
So it's not played directly to the caller, it's played through the rear speaker instead.

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Defcomg says we can play music while on call with TCPMP.
I have Himalaya.
I'm not optimistic about it but I'll try.
This is not a hardware issue or anything, & hopefully somebody can tweak this setting.

did it work?

I was doing this with my N73 from ages..
but my htc diamond is helpless in doing this..
almost all symbian devices has this features..then why not windows phones??

are you talking about replacing the *beep beep*-sound when calling someone? if so, that's an operator feature wich have to be set as a service in the operator network for your number seperately.. and then people will hear it while calling you, not the other way around. not all operators provide that service though..
..if that's not what you meant, sorry, then I have no clue.

The jews have better devices to allow mobile users to have an offline answering machine locally. Im sure it's a jumper wire hack switched or not but there is no reason to make it so difficult. Boycott the ask a not see bankers

Recording telephone call

I would like to be able to record an telephone call by pushing a softkey.
I have HTC voice recorder installed, but it is not easy to activate recording while in a call.
Also as far as I know, there is only the possibility to program ONE hardwarekey (longpress off hook), and that one is already occupied by another program.
So I wondered whether it is somehow possible to program the softkeys that appear when I am involved in a call?
Or do you know another possiblity to activate call recording simply?

im interested too!

Action Screen
Hi there,
I don't know if this helps ur case but when you use actionscreen you can program your softkeys under the today tab, might be possible te get a record button then, not sure but i thought i mention it mine are set to left Action and right Shutdown, anyway hope this helps..
Caved

Can the diamond record both sides of a telephonic call ?
I think no... plz someone can contradicts me ?
However you need Softkey Manager for diamond

It should be invented.
When you record a call using the voice recorder it only records your own voice, but when you put the call on speakerphone it will record both parties. Probably because of the sound from speaker loops back in to the mic.
I'm already searching so long for a good working call recording tool but still no eureka.

can somebody not create a program that will record every phone call, in and out, from both parties, id love to have something like that. much better than the standard.

it's an hardware limitation af all windows mobile based pdas

resco audio recorder can auto record, but the other party voice will be slightly softer

You could also try Vito Audio Notes Touch. It also has an option to record all calls automatically. http://www.iwindowsmobile.com/mobile-audio-recorder.html

SkizZO said:
it's an hardware limitation af all windows mobile based pdas
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Its a hardware limitation of all HTC based Windows mobile based PDAs... Some others can do it but not many. It's enough to drive a user to symbian

Evoluti0n said:
resco audio recorder can auto record, but the other party voice will be slightly softer
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I just installed this one.
The loudness of the recording of the other party seems just enough.
I don't want to record all calls.
THe program also offers the possibility to assign actions like 'start recording' to a hardware button. I tried several buttons (off hook, left, action, home), but none of them work, or have already another function, during a call.
A possible option could be to have an extra touch button on the screen when you are involved in a call (just like the button to put a call on hold). But I don't know how that could be done.
ANy ideas?

Today I discovered another unwanted side effect of this recording program.
When I made an phonecaal it appeard that the other party could not hear my voice.
The cause appeared that the recording program was still running in the background. AFter I closed this application the sound was OK again.
On my old nokia phone recording voice calls could be done with one key press

think u can try to turn off recording in background so u can view the recording screen during a caqll n stop the recording. i dont have such issue of others no hearing my voice during the recording

it's strange that such little feature, that so many other phones have had in the past, is so hard to get on an htc device. and funnily enough, i remember reading in manual for the original touch, that before recording a call you have to check whether it's legal and inform the other side... so there's gotta be a way
maybe someone feels like taking a challenge of making a simple app, that would allow you to record the conversations?

the only htc device i ive used that supports recording of both sides is htc startrek

there must be a way to record both sides of a phone call (without a speaker...)

there must be a way to do this, if the audio stream cannot be accessed programatically how do bluetooth headsets work?
i'm sure there would be lots of cool applications for this if someone could work it out, but it never seems to arouse much interest in the techie experts on here when i've mentioned it in the past.

in my very old WM5 smartphone SP5 it can record the call of both sides with a good quality by using this program
(not tested in the diamond try it if you want)

tesing it..

installed it on my diamond - it seems to work - but there is no option to record phone calls...
+ \there is an automates answering machine caleled: "isecretary" - it canrecord incommind phonecalls- maybe they have found a solution??