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So far I have been a lurker in this forum reading lots of posts regarding the Universal. I have not bitten the bullet yet (i.e. ordered one) but I am tempted to do so. Before making my final decision I would appreciate some input from Universal users.
I am a heavy e-mail user and would use the Universal with a flat fee 3G subscription. My inbox is currently 1 GB and I was planning to get a large SD card and download all my e-mail to the device.
How well does Outlook function on the Universal when you have large inboxes?
How long does it take to browse and search among e-mails, seconds or minutes?
How long does it take to open attachments of normal size (i.e. 300 kB)?
Are the pocket versions of Office usable on the Universal i.e. is it feasible to browse spreadsheets and view word-files or does screen size / CPU speed or other factors prevent the Universal from being effectively used as a micro-laptop?
Can one browse regular webpages (not wappages) successfully with the available browsers or does screen size / CPU speed / lack of plug-in support etc. prevent the Universal from being practically used for regular web browsing?
Finally, is it possible to play XVID rips with "regular" size (i.e. a movie is either 700MB or 2x700MB) without dropping frames on the Universal?
I realize that my questions (and possible answers) are subjective to a large extent. However, it is your subjective opinion on the usability of the Universal that I want!
jketzetera said:
So far I have been a lurker in this forum reading lots of posts regarding the Universal. I have not bitten the bullet yet (i.e. ordered one) but I am tempted to do so. Before making my final decision I would appreciate some input from Universal users.
I am a heavy e-mail user and would use the Universal with a flat fee 3G subscription. My inbox is currently 1 GB and I was planning to get a large SD card and download all my e-mail to the device.
How well does Outlook function on the Universal when you have large inboxes?
How long does it take to browse and search among e-mails, seconds or minutes?
How long does it take to open attachments of normal size (i.e. 300 kB)?
Are the pocket versions of Office usable on the Universal i.e. is it feasible to browse spreadsheets and view word-files or does screen size / CPU speed or other factors prevent the Universal from being effectively used as a micro-laptop?
Can one browse regular webpages (not wappages) successfully with the available browsers or does screen size / CPU speed / lack of plug-in support etc. prevent the Universal from being practically used for regular web browsing?
Finally, is it possible to play XVID rips with "regular" size (i.e. a movie is either 700MB or 2x700MB) without dropping frames on the Universal?
I realize that my questions (and possible answers) are subjective to a large extent. However, it is your subjective opinion on the usability of the Universal that I want!
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Is think, you should better bye a laptop
I already have an ultra-portable laptop, which I sit infront 10hrs / day. I thought that the Universal would make a nice compliment to my laptop for the remaining 14hrs ;-).
I have around 1300 emails in my inbox and can scroll up and down very quickly on my Universal. Pocket Outlook doesn't seem to have any search facilities though. I have Push Email configured (using the very latest o2 ROM) from Exchange 2003 and it works very well. I don't bother with attachments though so I can't comment on them.
graybo said:
I have around 1300 emails in my inbox and can scroll up and down very quickly on my Universal. Pocket Outlook doesn't seem to have any search facilities though. I have Push Email configured (using the very latest o2 ROM) from Exchange 2003 and it works very well. I don't bother with attachments though so I can't comment on them.
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There is a search facility on all PPC that allows you to search through contacts, calender and messaging etc.
You can store attachments on a storage card, although the body of emails stays on the phone.
Word Mobile is OK but doesnt allow images - you just get a big X
Excel Mobile is good and allows some chart integration - doesnt offer all of the functionality that Excel XP does.
IE is good especially displayed in full screen and landscape at the smallest font size at the default view (instead of one column or desktop) Pages can sometimes take a while to appear due to the cpu chugging along - but is alot better than IE on say WM2003SE
Matt
Thanks for the input. Can you confirm the search facility on the Universal and give some details on it?
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Thanks for the input. Can you confirm the search facility on the Universal and give some details on it?
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By choosing search, you are presented with the following options:
All Data
Calender
Contacts
Excel Mobile
Help
Larger than 64kb
Messaging
Notes
Outlook Mobile
Tasks
Word Mobile
.....You just enter what it is you want to find and it will find it.
A program like Total Commander (Which is freeware and a replacement for File Explorer) contains options to find files and works better for file searching and allows for searching within files.
Basically - even if WM5 doesnt do something - there will be another app sometimes free that will enhance functionality.
Matt
To answer on the Xvid issue: never tried that but I am very sure you need to rip it down to a smaller (pixel- and file-) size to view it without choking.
I'm wondering if there are any Gnutella-clients, or other software, for WM that allows music searching/downloading. Would be nice to be able to download tracks on the go.
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double-post... sorry
well.......
You can always use a remote connection to your PC to download tracks, then transfer to your phone via Orb or something.
The problem with Gnutella for WM-
1. Legality- Service providers don't want their data being used to dl music illegally and afraid of being sued
2. Bandwidth- Same as above except without the "and afraid of being sued"
This might even get categorized as a warez post, but probably not.
But i digress. I must point out that the bandwidth that you would need would only be available via wi-fi, effectively killing the idea of "on-the-go"
ANd besides, the artists do good work. Let them get paid. Read my sig, just replace "using warez" with "Downloading music illegally"
pocket G2pro
i will give you a clue but i cant give you direct link in xda.software calls pocket g2pro that will allow to download music from gunutella network.cheers
yeh but g2pro has been offline for at least a few months if not a year they shut off their servers it appears so thats not an option.
i dont think p2p software is warez. the program itself is simply a program if someone codes it and offers it for free then its no worse than any other developed program in here. Im sure modding the HTC programs and puling them from the ROMs brings up all sorts of IP violations (for all you law buffs you know what im saying) technically. Im simpler terms i doubt modding and pulling HTC copyrighted software is exactly "legal" per say.
what you do with it is your own morality IMO. the p2p program in itself isnt warez though if its developed and offered for free
As far as the piracy-question is concerned; there are legal files on the Gnutella network aswell and it is off course only these I'm interested in. Like songs from some local emo-goth band and such. Ya. Bandwidth isn't a problem since I live in Sweden and have an unlimited HSDPA data-plan. Even if used strictly via WiFi it would still come in handy in my opinion. But it seems I'm out of luck though, doesn't it? Are there any good BitTorrent clients perhaps?
yes there is very nice bittorent client which calls adiasta bittorrent...also g2pro network is down but you can always add manuel gunetalla network.it was under the settings but i cant remember know.could you plase check ipmart-forum.you can get your answer guys.just check the under the ppc section forum.good luck..
ok, not warez. there are just some very radical people here that would categorize it as such. But yeah......
pocket g2pro alive and well
http://forum.htcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=492
For all of you who were searching for a decent VoIP Softphone that supports multiple SIP accounts, is not in beta since 2 years ago. doesn't bring your PPC down to a crawl or is nearly unusable, search no longer: We have released our AGEphone Mobile 2 just today and it blows away every competitor from Xlite over SJphone to Skype. Big words? You bet! But why don't you just test it yourself? Just point your browser to http://www.ageet.com/files/AGEphoneMobile2.CAB OR point your cellphone at http://mobileage.notlong.com and install the softphone on your Windows Mobile 5 or 6 device. You can try it as long as you want without any limits but a duration of one minute for each call.
"And, who the heck are you?" I hear you ask. We, that is the ageet Corporation in beautiful (and far) Japan and we simply couldn't stand watching the Windows Mobile VoIP market dragging along... with an SJphone version right out of the stoneage, the wannabe softphone Fring with its horrible interface ans support for but one SIP provider and not to forget Skype which single handedly brings your PPC to the knees should you only think about calling someone. AGEphone does things differently and it does things BETTER (see our press release under http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=372992) and we hope that it will be of good service to many people. And that is where you come into play:
... cause our AGEphone has been in programming for quite a while already, but we know well enough that we are just not there yet. We're selling our software and that is why you can expect only the best. So, why not give the current version a go and let me know what you like and (more importantly) dislike about it. Right now we're working on bluetooth support and chat functions are planned for the future. But I know that there must be many more features that you would like to see in in our program and we don't even have a clue about it... until now. A little post might just be enough to let us know!
And we won't just leave you with the good feeling of having helped out to improve the best VoIP client on the Windows Mobile platform - that's just not enough. And so we put out two free licenses for board members who provide us with the best suggestions (and many ), bug reports and new ideas. And if you are really convinced that AGEphone Mobile is the way to go VoIP and if then you happen to sit in the right seat: We pay well for relayed 3rd party orders and redistribution. So just let us hear from you and the least you get is that we work hard to create a better softphone for you. Whether it will be more depends just on YOU!
Will be nice if you had a proper English web site. Clicking on the English still keeps you at the Jap language. Why come and post here when you cant even get a proper web site with English on??
I'm very sorry for that. The new page is still pretty new and there are some quirks that need to be sorted out. The problem should be fixed by now, but if it persists please PM me your OS and browser version and we will look further into it. Apart from that, rest assured that we can serve you in fluent English, German and Japanese if you give our products a try.
Still doesnt work. Im using Firefox 3.0 Beta. Also tried it in IE, still no dice.
Atleast give a direct link to the English site or have a splash page to choose a language instead of taking it fully to Japanese.
Languge option works for me, OK it's a USA flag to click and not a Union Jack, but i still see a site in English.
Wierd, I dont know what you are clicking on but the US flag has a link to http://www.ageet.com/us/ and if you click on that it reverts back to Japanese in both IE and FF for me.
I'm sorry, raaj, but unfortunately I have not been able to reproduce your problem using FF 2, IE 6 and 7, Opera and Safari (minor template quirks) from work and home. I haven't tested Firefox 3 and Internet Explorer 8 though as we simply can't support any beta versions. Please have a look at
http://www.ageet.com/us/products-agephone-mobile.htm
for some information about our softphone and go to
http://www.ageet.com/us/download.htm
to download either of our products in a free trial version. Please also clear your browser cache and cookies if you haven't done so already. I hope that this works for you, but if not: The /us/ always turns any page into English if a translation is available. Please let me know if anybody else is having trouble with changing the languages on the page.
AgePhone Mobile
This is the best voip sw I have tried for Windows Mobile.
I have tried:
iFon
SJPhone
Xlite
internal WM6 using Schap settings
Fring
Skype
plus others I forgot.
It displays well on my HTC Advantage with RealVGA at 128dpi, call quality is good, integrates with contacts, works well with my BT headset and is generally slick. Highly recomended, and I don't work for them...
james
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And a little intro video for your viewing pleasure:
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Prize question: How to integrate videos directly into posts here?
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Is there anyway to choose the codec used, or is it done automatically? I'm running it on a 200MHz phone, and the audio quality was a bit choppy. I checked the server log and it shows capability for g.711u only, but I see on the website that gsm is also available.
Thanks.
bluetooth head does not work on my orbit 2, and the voice comes out of the back speaker as with all the other voip software.
is there something i have done wrong.
@ayking: The codec gets selected automatically and on mobile devices we usually force GSM. You can override the settings in the INI files. Just go to "My Documents / My Phone Booth" and take a look at the sipd.conf. You can find the codec settings under the "General" section as
MediaTypes = 3 0 8 101
where
0 = G.711u
3 = GSM
8 = G.711a
101 = DTMF setting (ignore)
Sometimes this might come out as
MediaTypes = 0 3 8 101
in which case you should change it to the first version that prefers GSM. In general, please try to raise the the jitter buffer in the programs audio settings to 240ms and see if that improves things. If it doesn't help you can also experiment with "OutBufferCnt = 3" in the INI under "Audio". I hope this fixes the choppiness.
@itolson: No, you haven't done anything wrong and neither is it our fault. Most HTC devices simply don't support routing the audio to the earphone speaker and thus you always end up hearing it through the external one. We are keeping an eye on any developments that have been able to fix this for some Japanese WM devices already. That is because contrary to the HTC guys who don't even bother answering our mails Sharp has been a bit less secretive and told us the DeviceIoControl ID of their device so that we could fix the speaker settings.
As for Bluetooth, there is no support for it in the current version of AGEphone and thus you can only use your headset if you use a little hack. Search the forums for "BTAudioToggle.exe" and start it before you make a call with AGEphone. It enables all audio to be routed through the BT headset and also allows you to use the headset microphone. You can automate this process with AGEphone under "Settings - Other" where you can enter "BTAudioToggle.exe" to get started when a call connects and to get disconnected when your call ends. I hope this is of any help until we add official support.
has the software been tested with a connection over gprs / 3g / hdspa or only with wifi?
Is there support for going through the operator proxy ? (there are operators with unlimited 3g plans that only work using the operators proxy)
@trv: We have tested our AGEphone with WiFi, 3G, HSDPA and PHS (EDGE equivalent) and it worked fine on all of them. PHS / EDGE can be a bit borderline though and we didn't include it in our requirements for that reason. It's more than worth a try though.
As for the proxy support, it depends solely on your provider: If they decided to use their proxy to block VoIP traffic you can make AGEphone work only over a VPN or otherwise encrypted connection. Please feel free to try our test version with your provider to see if it works.
Agephone codecs
Falk,
You say you force GSM codec, I see that is that one selected on my implementation. Forgive newby questions, but by GSM do you mean AMR, or AMR-WB with a 16kHz sample? G.711 is an extremely simple algorithm from (1972?) so is not very bandwidth efficient. I'm wondering if there is a route to the high quality sound I get with my laptop/WiFi Voip implementation with my pda over HSDPA using some of the newer bandwidth efficent packet loss tolerant codecs like iLBC, G.729, G.722.2 etc, which I see you have on your desktop version? Is the limit processing complexity in the pda? I know my service provider voiptalk supports iLBC, G.729 and G.722. I know there are license issues with G.729, but not iLBC.
Surely the latest devices (mine has a 624MHz X-Scale, 256M Rom and 128M RAM) could run the advanced codecs? I understand Skype uses their own special sauce, but based on iLBC.
I would really appreciate your expert input here.
Sorry to dive in to all this, but xda-developers is a 'pushing the boundry' type forum!
James
WOW, not to sure about all this, set up servers, limited to 1 minute, have to buy the software. Want to use it for free, then you have to go out and sell the software yourself? Whats next, make money selling the software by having your own sales team? I see another "Work from home" pyramid scheme coming on here, just my skeptical point of view here. I think I'll stick with skype for now, especially since i can answer the call from my home phone, computer, or pda phone since any of these can be logged on at the same time.
@iscajames: Don't be sorry - that's what the thread is there for and I hope that I can answer all your questions! So let's get started: When I wrote GSM I did indeed mean AMR 8 KHz. Right now we limit our AGEphone to ARM and G.711 for simplicities sake and to keep the SIP stack small and efficient. You are right again when you suspect that some of the other codecs put a lot of stress on mobile CPUs, but that is not the main reason.
Codecs like AMR-WB and G.729A cost a lot of initial and licensing fees and so far we simply could not integrate them because of that. We are, however working on a solution to that right now and you might see some additional codecs in our product in the future. iLBC would be possible even now and the only reason so far was that it would add some size and hasn't been requested much by our customers.
I will talk it with our programmers again and see if we can find a good solution for this. I think that iLBC might be a good addition for now - be it for some providers that support it or people using AGEphone in P2P mode.
@NiteStalker: Let me explain a bit to clear up the whole thing for you: First off, this is no pyramid scheme or get "rich with software" scheme. We just thought that it might be a nice idea to reward the people that are helping us to bring our AGEphone a bit further. It's not more than those two licenses that I spoke about in the first post.
And if you use a SIP-softphone then of course you have to register with a SIP-server in order to place your calls. You are also registering with the Skype network anytime you log on. The only difference is that YOU chose the server and by that get much cheaper prices than Skype could ever offer.
They give their software away for free because they hope to hook you up with their service. ageet doesn't offer any phone service. Just see us as a vendor whom you buy your phone from. Without a provider it's nearly worthless as you can just use it in peer to peer mode.
If Skype does what you want to do and does so for a good price then there is no need to use our software. For many people though being locked down to just one network, having to put up with a crappy PPC version, financing Ebay's wish to make some money out of their billion dollar buy ain't all that great and for those AGEphone Mobile might be worth a try
so i have been thinking about my homes security and i have some questions...
i have collected quite a few expensive gadgets and they need protection!
So, i have been tinkering with my **** logitech orb web cam and it now supports motion detection. now call me crazy but i would like to be able to receive on my diamond, the video that has been recorded by a motion detection enabled web cam set up in my home. i'm trying to get my logitech web cam to save on my HP media smart server, running windows home server, not default on my laptop, and be notified by either sms that there is new video on my server or the video itself sent to my diamond. i would also like to be able to connect remotely to my laptop and be able to activate the camera software from a desktop link or something like that.
now i swear this is diamond related in the fact that i would like to use the device as a controller.
i have not used remote desktop on my diamond yet, i could not get it working.
i'm not sure if this is a app request, idea, or util so ill follow the forum template rules once this thread takes shape.
please shed some light on how one could make this happen. i think it could be useful to all of us, at home or place of business or your just want to bust your stupid parents snooping around your room.
so you are looking for an app that does the following:
act as webcam streaming server, but only when motion is detected, and when it does detect motion, it must notify you via sms, plus: you need a simple app for youre diamond to vie the stream..
i dont think I would be able to do this, but if you can clarify exacly what you want thinking WITH you is more easy...
on the other hand, i am sure the pc part has already some usefull apliactions wich are able to act as a server. but im not sure about the notification sms..
it would be ideal if that sms contained a link that you follow to open youre browser to view the stream...
what i know what is possible, there are apps for the pc that record video and send it via e-mail...
just use google for webcam security..
maybe there are pplz around here that can adapt software for u...
but i u seach im sure there are apps out there wich can do that... the only app you need is a browser capable of viewing video streams..
Would be good an app who detect movement, and then make several actions:
- Upload a photo/video on an FTP
- Save photo/video
- Play an AUDIO alarm
- Send an mms with the photo/video
- Send a warning sms
- Make a call (and let you listen what's happening)
....all when Movement is detected via the pda camera
Improvise
What you are trying to accomplish is mostly already possible. You'll need to do some research and some creative thinking to get it to work though. You will most likely not get an all-in-one solution to this issue.
It sounds to me like the motion detection and subsequent video capture is already taking place via the software you have installed for your web cam.
Basically you need two things: A way to be notified of a new video file and a way to view it.
I'm not aware of any existing application which will send an email (which can arrive as an SMS) based on a new file being created in a directory, but as a programmer I can asure you there's not much to it.
There are however many solutions which would allow you to view a video file on your WM device from you computer at home and remote desktop is not the way to go here. Your best bet is probably good old http since most video applications will handle "streaming" to file to you as you watch. You'll need to familiarize yourself with IIS (Internet Information Server; I'm assuming you're using Windows) and create a "virtual directory" pointing at the folder where the video files arrive. You'll also need to take the necessary steps to open port 80 so that your computer at home can host via http (this means configuring your router and your computer's firewall). Once this is done just pick your favorite video player and choose "open URL" or something similar and type in http://YourExternalIP/YourVirtualDirectory/YourVideoFile.
I'll leave it up to you to figure out how to best make yourself aware of new files.
As LucidObscurity says there already are several solutions available to this through the combination of existing discrete applications, although .
My setup does does what you desire although goes quite a bit further so it may be overkill for your requirements. However, as food for thought it may still be of interest. It consists of:
- A series of Panasonic BL-C1 IP cameras distributed around my house (running on the wired house network, although wireless versions are available) - these are quite discrete cameras and don't have the typical 'camera look' hence are aesthetically compatible with partners, guests etc (most people I've pointed them out to hadn't noticed them and then didn't believe they were cameras)
- The motion detection/analysis software ZoneMinder - the 'brains' - this monitors the cameras, detects motion (in zoned areas) and records the events as required (it buffers the images so you can capture what happened before the trigger too)
- The SMS tool MercurySMS (and VGSMail gateway) used to alert me via text when motion has been detected (the texts contain various event-related details/stats and a link to the recording)
- A handful of other scripts used for small housekeeping tasks e.g. scheduling the starting/stopping of the system, realtime offsite backup of recorded material (there's no point me capturing a thief on video if he then goes an nicks my PC!), etc
- My Diamond, or any other device with a web browser, used to interface with the system - controlling/configuring it, accessing live/recorded video etc. A web front end is essential in my opinion - you don't want to tie access down to a single platform/device.
Whilst it's not a setup that is up-and-running out of the box now that's it's fully configured it works well - very well. False alarms are practically nill and it doesn't miss a thing. Remote access via the web is powerful and as simple/complicated as you want - on holiday my girlfriend regularly fires up the quick 'snapshot' montage to keep an eye on our cats (we do have a dedicated 'catcam' monitoring the catflap so we can see the history of who came in/out and when).
I'm sure there are some all-in-one solutions available but they likely come at a cost and perhaps do not have the power and flexibility of a modularised solution - it'd be worth seeing what's available though.
Mathew
thanks for all your replies. great read.
i just want all my systems, Windows Home Server, Vista Home Pro and WM6.1 to come together. i will take a look into the apps you have linked to and see whats what.
i already have the ability to record with motion detection. when a new file is created in a folder on my home server, i want to be notified and linked to or streamed. i have remote access to my file via browser [ blazeitup123.homeserver.com ]. i can't get the logitech software to actually save to the server because it says i dont have the rights. i'll try and fix that tonight after dinner, but saving to the server is very improtant because my laptop could be stolen and then the whole setup was pointless. i want to incorperate my diamond into this process as much as possible, like with the remote activation and so on.
Wooow this is one of the coolest threads I read in a long time.
Although I'm not as advanced as some of the members regarding computing, I was thinking:
-Cam software streaming to remote address.
-When motion is detected, cam starts recording, thus creating movement in the remote address.
-When new connection(movement) is detected, you activate a new RSS feed.
-You get RSS notification on phone.
-Connect to remote address and check the stream.
What about:
A spy cam on the Diamond, I mean that you could hide your phone somewhere and point it at a certain spot you want to view. Then remotely access the phone and view the live stream?
Since the phone is so small its an easy hide.
Greetings to all and luck in all your great projects!
you should actually look here...
http://www.incax.com/
Looks good. I've also found Wapcam
(Seems to alert via e-mail to you could use either push e-mail or an email-to-SMS gateway for instant alerts)
Mathew
shogunmark said:
you should actually look here...
http://www.incax.com/
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looks like great software. ill try the trail and it only 20 dollars to buy . seems very simple to. i want something more server based because my laptop would be the first thing out the door.
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Blazeitup123 said:
looks like great software. ill try the trail and it only 20 dollars to buy . seems very simple to. i want something more server based because my laptop would be the first thing out the door.
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Perhaps you should invest in a big dog.
I m using this one:
http://www.accordiva.com/
U have there SecuRanger 2 Support 4 video channels
or one Camera only: SecuExpress 2
SecuExpress 2
both come with WM application for remote / viewing etc..
Take a look at orb.com. It has the ability to sms or email you if it detects movement. You could then connect to your home webcam through the phone's' browser.
...a good spy, like a 007 , should be able to SPY also without his PC
The only one that i've found is Invisible Shooter... for symbian os there are a lot of those apps (no pc needed), but for the pda there aren't many... (see the post #3)
Hello,
I have had the tmo tp2 for a couple days now and have modded it some with many many thanks to this site and its members.
One issue I have is when I enter my amazon seller account and go to the inventory page, my itme price will show but the online price will just load and never show. In order to adjust my price accordingly, I need to be able to see the "live" price on amazon.
Is there an amazon seller program / plugin / fix to resolve this issue ?
Please help and dont yell at the noob who is trying to run his small business.
If the price is truly 'live' it may be being created by a small flash applet on the webpage, which isnt being correctly rendered by the mobile browser. True web-based (as rendered on a PC) flash support is still not properly implemented with the flash lite plugin afaik.
ebay has a simialr live flash applet for their countdown timer for when an auction ends.
I found Skyfire, which can render flash (well on their servers at any rate) did display the countdown correctly in ebay for me, maybe it's worth giving that a try & see if it give syou your live prices? (although you will have to put up with it's less than ideal display on the large screen, WVGAFix may be able to help by setting it to 640x480 mode though)
Note: Adobe have just announced proper flash 10.1 support for WInMo devices, so with any luck soon we will be able to see proper flash-enabled web pages in Opera \o/
hope this helps
Joe
Thank you for the help, I will check into your suggestions