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Are there any plans from distrubutors of the Magician to release WM2005?
Or is will be there any unofficial release like on the Himalaya?
As it was written probably A MILLION TIMES in this forum:
NO, there are no plans to offer WM2005 officially on Magician.
NO, currently there are no known plans of some unofficial source to offer WM2005 on Magician.
HOWEVER: When WM2005 comes for Magician, you could easily find the information using the SEARCH function of this board.
BTW: What do you need WM2005 for? Is it so much better? Has it less bugs than mature WM2003SE?
Didnt mean to hit a nerve there, was just a simple question...
Even if we found a way it would be a pain in the *ss cos it wouldn't fit in the amount of ROM. Face it: the Magician is too small! :wink:
The Qtek S110 is a different story tho... :idea:
it will fit, as W2005 will be released for Dells and HPs with same ROM size(64MB)
Hoping somebody will cook it for magician
esackbauer said:
As it was written probably A MILLION TIMES in this forum:
NO, there are no plans to offer WM2005 officially on Magician.
NO, currently there are no known plans of some unofficial source to offer WM2005 on Magician.
HOWEVER: When WM2005 comes for Magician, you could easily find the information using the SEARCH function of this board.
BTW: What do you need WM2005 for? Is it so much better? Has it less bugs than mature WM2003SE?
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I hope you made same brilliant remark to all the HTC Typhoon users?? who will never ever recieve a official w2k5 rom! but are all playing with w2k5 now. It is very well possible that HTC has already made a rom available with w2k5 we don't know it's up to the providers to release it for the magician, but I guess your right they never will. Maybe next time it's more helpfull to say nothing then to point someone out the search function, because this i a forum for a bunch of wackos who try to do the impossible with their phones hehe
I'm waiting for the next Magician sized device with WM5.0, so far the only thing I've heard about is the ETEN m600 (or was it 700).
It will happen soon enough when the next devices become available. I don't see them releasing it on this one though. There is already a 128MB one on its way and the spec for that still says WM2003.
My JAM served me perfectly for a almost a year and now it's time to move on. Just sold it and ordered ETEN M500. I've got a bit tired of iMATE's position in OS upgrades, first with my XDA2 not having 2003 SE and now JAM with no 2005. Also, cripled BT, no voice dialing possibility also was a big factor for me. ETEN is using MS BT stack and does have this feature. Let's see how it performs in person. I am willing to help you guys with getting BT stack from ETEN working on JAM. Let me know if you need anything.
BTW, moderators, is that possible to create another forum here dedicated to ETEN?
Why order the M500 now and not wait a few months for the M600? Please post your findings on the M500 though as I'd love to hear how good / bad it is.
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Why order the M500 now and not wait a few months for the M600? Please post your findings on the M500 though as I'd love to hear how good / bad it is.
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Because in few months my JAM will be older few months and I wouldn't be able to sell it for a good price. M600 doesn't impress me much over M500 - same memory size, same CPU, same look ( I am not big fan of black color either). Only WiFi. But I don't care about it much. If I really need one I have WiFi SD card ( which I maybe used once in 6 month). Price for m500 is good now and Windows 2005 upgrade is officially anonced for it.
My unit should be here on Tuesday. I'll let you know how it goes.
I'd love to yell at you for deserting HTC, but I am afraid you are doing the right thing. Darned...
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saldous said:
Why order the M500 now and not wait a few months for the M600? Please post your findings on the M500 though as I'd love to hear how good / bad it is.
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Because in few months my JAM will be older few months and I wouldn't be able to sell it for a good price. M600 doesn't impress me much over M500 - same memory size, same CPU, same look ( I am not big fan of black color either). Only WiFi. But I don't care about it much. If I really need one I have WiFi SD card ( which I maybe used once in 6 month). Price for m500 is good now and Windows 2005 upgrade is officially anonced for it.
My unit should be here on Tuesday. I'll let you know how it goes.
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Since you don't use WiFi, I think you made a very good move.
Dave
You can always get a really short Sceptre 802.11b Wi-Fi card from MadMonkeyBoy (http://www.dweiniger.com).
ID64... so how's the Eten coming along?
As I read on some reviews, Windows Mobile 5 is not the leap we are all waiting for. Or to be more specific: The leap I am waiting for.
I am happy with my Magician and I have not seen features that would make me switch to WM5 or another device with WM5.
The main thing for me is stability first, features second.
I don't want to be a beta tester for WM5, being an early adopter, life is hard enough ;-)
Regards
Mundl
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ID64... so how's the Eten coming along?
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Not here yet :? Tomorrow
m500??????
m500?
what make is it?
can someone post a link or tell me who make's them.
thanks in advance.
jaykummar, the make is E-TEN. If you do a search in google for E-TEN M500 you'll get lots of info.
Alas, I think we may be asking too much to open an "Eten" thread in an XDA forum...
I'll try other PDA forums. 8)
9100 is great, little big to carry around, but nice with w-lan and everything else. WM2005, didn´t like it in the beginning but now after 1 week I like it.. as all the other windows-based things u can do whatever u want
But now it´s confirmed, S200 is coming to sweden in the beginning of 2006. The size is like s100, s110 unbeatable......
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babe...obile-review.com/pda/review/htc-prophet.shtml
i want one. is this thing just a prototype or htc for sure is gonna make it? and i read it has wifi 802.11g could this be true?
The English version is also available:
http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/review/htc-prophet-en.shtml
Compare with Magician, the camera of Prophet has improved a lot. Added Wifi and EDGE but the CPU is changed to slower OMAP... :!:
I donno why HTC want to change CPU type. But this totally prevent existing Magician users from directly upgrade the ROM from WM2003SE to WM5 without buying new device... :roll:
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i want one. is this thing just a prototype or htc for sure is gonna make it? and i read it has wifi 802.11g could this be true?
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yes. Built-in module Wi- fie of version g;
T Mobile
This device is already available with another name from T Mobile :lol:
But as said, OMAP OMAP OMAP
I will wait until next year for the new devices
How does this thing compare to the HTC Charmer aka T-Mobile MDA Compact II, which is supposed to be the WM2005 successor to Magician?
And Charmer should be available already from T-Mobile ;-)
As far as I know, the Charmer has no Wifi and no 2 MPix camera.
@ all
Don't forget: The Hermes is going to come out pretty soon (first half of next year they said).
Anyone working for O2 here know when O2 are going to release a new ROM for the Exec?
Regards
I've asked, and no-one knows (all they know is that it'll be later than any internal release date; which they didn't have).
link to o2 XDA Exec Software Update
You are required to enter your phone number and imei number.
http://www.my-xda.com/xdaexec_soft.html
Anyone know if this version (v1.13.188) is the latest release similar to that for the JasJar etc?
...to answer my own question. I guess not. JasJar seems to be ROM VERSION 1.30.76 WWE
You dont have to enter your mobile or IMEI number if you go here for future exec updates
http://www.my-xda.com/xdaexec_soft3.html
when hell freezes over?
bit cynical ..... but like most people I have been trying to get an answer and all i can get is... we are working on it... we will release an update.. but no dates as yet...
If you were o2.. and were getting a shed load of money from Blackberry contracts every month would you rush out and release an update that enables a competimg product that might cut into some of that phat profit
1.13.188 is an update over the launch version that came with the Exec when it was released, however it is significantly behind the imate, Orange and T-Mobile ones. As usual, o2 are last with an update.
To be honest, my iMate one works so well, I'm not even sure if I'm willing to flash it back to an o2 ROM. It'll have to be a pretty amazing release.
Cheers
Ant
What are the differences between the o2 and I-Mate one?
This update has been in testing for over a month now so hopefully should be release soon. It wont include A2DP though.
Also you dont need the IMEI number anyway, just simply change the 2 to a 3 in the address bar (http://www.my-xda.com/xdaexec_soft2.html - change to soft3 on the end).
oops!
stuartwatkins
do you know it definitely not have a2dp ? a contact I have at o2 tells me it will. he has been wrong before but was sure the new rom would contain a2dp.
@CRJL, i did not think A2DP has been included in any of the ROM updates. In fact, I am not sure if any of the HTC WM5 devices has A2DP at the moment (someone please correct this if I am wrong).
@jah. I know that's why I was excited about this o2 rom. it may well be he is full of poo. we will see. like I said he has been wrong before
I am absolutly sure! O2 have said that this will be included in future ROM updates, but not the new one - shame!
I was hoping that the fact that O2's update was taking so long was maybe a sign that it would include A2DP where others had not.
MS give links to the devices with A2DP already available:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/business/5/default.mspx
I know the spv600s now ship with it
rgds
The mail I got from O2 stated that it would include A2DP so it will be interesting to see if they make good on the promise.
I reckon it will be in the next few weeks though.
I did offer to beta test (nudge nudge wink wink) but they knocked me back.
Cheers
since my post I have been intouch with my "friend" at o2. he is 95% sure that the reason for the delay in the rom release is due to a2dp being made ready for this ROM :0 :0
He also says it will be out in no more than 14days.
CRJL said:
since my post I have been intouch with my "friend" at o2. he is 95% sure that the reason for the delay in the rom release is due to a2dp being made ready for this ROM :0 :0
He also says it will be out in no more than 14days.
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Can you ask your mate if Blackberry Connect is going to be available too?
im going to be right pissy if ad2p isnt included when there are other mickey mouse phones being shipped with wm5 and ad2p.
Any more news? Or is everyone still waiting...
hello ppl...
a bit of an FYI here, but I just got off the phone with i-mate support and I pressed the issue of an official WM6 update for the Jasjam which won't void the warranty (that would also fix A2DP issues and such). The lady on the other end said that they are currently working on the new ROM and expect to have it out by the end of this month. I guess this has gotten my hopes up but I also know that i-mate is a lot of talk and no action as well. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens. But come the end of the month, I will definately be calling and nagging them. That said, it was a real pain trying to find their phone number. They don't make it easy.
Its nice to dream Imate phone support is pathetic..Go and have a read of there forums.
"Dear Sir,
Thank you for contacting club i-mate™ Technical Support.
With regards to your query, please do note that we will not release a Windows Mobile 2006 ROM upgrade for the JASJAM or for any previous similar devices (e.g JASJAR, K-JAM, JAMin).
It is definite that we will only issue WM6 for the recently released i-mate™ devices (e.g. JAQ3, PDAL) and for the forthcoming Ultimate Devices - https://www.clubimate.com/ultimate/.
In addition, just in case you'll find a WM6 upgrade from other websites, we strongly advised you not to use it as it will only bring faults to the device.
If you have any other concerns, please do not be reluctant to contact us and we will be delighted to support you.
Regards.
Technical Support - i-mate™"
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hello ppl...
a bit of an FYI here, but I just got off the phone with i-mate support and I pressed the issue of an official WM6 update for the Jasjam which won't void the warranty (that would also fix A2DP issues and such). The lady on the other end said that they are currently working on the new ROM and expect to have it out by the end of this month. I guess this has gotten my hopes up but I also know that i-mate is a lot of talk and no action as well. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens. But come the end of the month, I will definately be calling and nagging them. That said, it was a real pain trying to find their phone number. They don't make it easy.
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they will be releasing a official wm6 update (ENU) until Jan 2008
there exist some wm6 rom updates in chinese and arabic and there is one
non official for the jaq3 im talking about the rom for the ubiquio 501 the ugly brother of the jaq3 if you are willing to risk you can try the ubiquio rom in your device of course having the backup files of the original & official imate rom
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Well, with all these mixed responses from i-mate, I just called them up again to enquire about this WM6 ROM which was supposed to come out end of September. The lady said this time, "we are testing the ROM now and expect to release it by November. Many people have asked the same question. I assure you everyone will know when it is out".
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Have these people never heard of project managers or sticking to deadlines? Come on i-mate - HTC and Dopod released their official ROMs a long time ago. i-mate are absolutely hopeless! If i-mate management requires someone to come in, do some hiring and lots of firing, cut costs and increase productivity, let me know. If it wasn't for that 2 year warranty that they have, I would have used a cooked ROM a long time ago. Also, just on another aside, warranty repairs done in Australia take 1 month. Why??
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I still love the HTC products and my phone, and the next phone I get will definately be HTC branded (never again will I have anything to do with i-mate), and all the people on this forum are absolutely fantastic
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Hello Dinty,
I have a 2 yr warrenty with my jasjam, I flashed to WM6 (dopod official release)
Would not go back now. Hopefull if there is a fault, I will still be able to flash back. Unless I brick it during flashing, everyon knows here that WM6 will not fail your device.
warhammer, I got a different reply from Imate, much kinder about cooked rom upgrades, see below:-
Dear Customer,
Thank you for contacting Club i-mate™ Technical Support. As per your query, be informed that however there is several Rom builds available on the internet such http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=355 but we didn’t release official WM6 Rom build for any i-mate device yet as we are currently investigating possibility of installing WM6 on our devices.
Note: Rom build available on any website other than www.clubimate.com is considered Third party Rom build and we don’t guarantee its usability or functionality.
Please do not hesitate to contact us, we’ll be happy to assist you
Best Regards,
Technical Support - i-mate™
need to reinstal wm 5 on imate jamin
hi can anyone tell me what to do.I have a used imate jamin italian version,i'm trying to register it on imate.com but the previous user already was registered with the imei and s/n,so wont let me subscibe.I need to change the language from italian to english only way is to reinstal wm 5 full version in english.please if anybody has something that can help me,my e- mail is [email protected]
thanks
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I have a 2 yr warrenty with my jasjam, I flashed to WM6 (dopod official release)
Would not go back now. Hopefull if there is a fault, I will still be able to flash back. Unless I brick it during flashing, everyon knows here that WM6 will not fail your device.
warhammer, I got a different reply from Imate, much kinder about cooked rom upgrades, see below:-
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Hi Qwsoftware,
Have to say that I am amazed by the response they gave you. When I called back in September, they had said that by using a non-standard ROM the warranty would be instantly void. It sounds like i-mate have a clear case of "the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing". That said, I was never in the biggest rush to upgrade to WM6 back then, but now that I require more space (such as from a 6GB or 8GB microSDHC card) and would like the extra stability, I reeeealy want WM6.
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hi can anyone tell me what to do.I have a used imate jamin italian version,i'm trying to register it on imate.com but the previous user already was registered with the imei and s/n,so wont let me subscibe.I need to change the language from italian to english only way is to reinstal wm 5 full version in english.please if anybody has something that can help me,my e- mail is [email protected]
thanks
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hi l.e749,
Firstly, this is the forum for the HTC Hermes / i-mate Jasjam. The forum for the i-mate JAMin is the same as the HTC Prophet. Also, ROM's are one of the most discussed things on this forum.
Look at the WIKI under ROMs and Upgrading:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Prophet
and also, search the forums:
http://www.google.com/advanced_search?q=+site:http://forum.xda-developers.com&hl=en&lr=&as_qdr=all
I've got a jasjam and im just annoyed iMate haven't bothered yet, theres text all over their website that says they wont be bothering either. Considering we've been hearing mixed sources on Wm6 for Jasjam for ages, i wouldn't be suprised if it doesn't come out.
It's all this crap that makes me never want to buy an imate/o2 device again, i'll be purchasing from Dopod/HTC next time. O2, my atom was average with lots of issues that couldn't be fixed. Jasjam, in my opinion after sales support is just CRAP.