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Don't know if this old news for some ...
http://www.theunwired.net/./?itemid=2696
An identical device to the Magican with WM5, WiFI, 128MB and 2 replaced buttons!
I spoke to our logistics manager today (TMUK) and he confirmed that the Compact II looks the same as the original with Windows 5 OS. Didn't have anymore tech specs to hand although don't be surprised if some more case colours appear. If I get anymore info I'll update.
BulletTime,
many thanks for your reply. Looks like we might get the long awaited WM5 through "official" channels then!
Hence my excitement!
Athena anyone?
I'm not entirely sure if this is the Athena or not. I heard rumours that this could be the athena but I also heard rumours of an athena that has a different shape than the Magician altogether. I think we'll have to wait and see ...
Could be the HTC Prophet
German tmobile also claims a new release of our mdacompact should appear before christmas. And "yes" they say its planned to be equipped with WM2005 wlan and 128mb.
Greetings
T-mobile compact II (HTC - ???)
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4493.html
Pro: shaped as magician but with windows and OK buttons; wifi; wm 5.0
Cons: no hardware buttons for wm 5.0 softbuttons.
XDA Atom (Quanta - Athena)
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4453.html
HTC Prophet
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4436.html
Pro: wm 5.0; 2MP camera; fm radio; softbuttons; wifi
Cons: only MiniSD!!!
Obviously, images and specs may change before release. We have only rumors.
Bye bye
Isidoro
No more a rumour!!!!
The word is out!!! :
German tmobile is offering the mdacompact 2 around middle of novembert2005.
Specs:
128mb
Windows mobile 2005!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seemingly NO wlan!!!!
See photo from official catalogue:
Are u sure the photo is not a fake? Compact II should have Start and OK hardware buttons instead of contacts and agenda. See
this link.
Isidoro
risidoro said:
Are u sure the photo is not a fake? Compact II should have Start and OK hardware buttons instead of contacts and agenda. See
this link.
Isidoro
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Definately not a fake!!!!!
Picked up the new catalogue for november just an hour ago!
Greetings
So Compact II will be a S110 with windows mobile 5.0? Nothing more, nothing less? Well, at least i think we'll be able to install its rom in our magician in short times!!!
Oh Prophet, we are u???
Bye
Could you please scan page 12 and link it for us?
Or at least tell us what further information about the MDAcII is given on page 12?
Edit:
It seems that the missing page/information is given here.
That's great, because we could use the firmware and have wm5 on our magican i suppose... If anyone have the solution for that please provide us with it.thx
Done for prophet
succesfully done the upgrade from german rom to wwe rom
grazie isidoro
elconte said:
succesfully done the upgrade from german rom to wwe rom
grazie isidoro
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I don't see the relationship of this post with respect to the main topic.
hi there
I know it's WM5 upgrade not available right now but I was just wondering that if it'll ever be possible that mini would be upgraded to WM5.Is it possible or mini doesn't meet the hardware requirements of WM5?your ideas?
Read the forums This was discussed all over the place!
However
You can always hope, especially as teh o2 atom specs ate similar.
I get mine hopefully next week when I am over in China.
Nope, never, jamais, nunca, nie, никогда, nooit, ποτέ, mai.
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You can always hope, especially as teh o2 atom specs ate similar.
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I hope that you are aware that Magician and o2 atom are not only different devices, BUT ALSO FROM DIFFERENT MANUFACTURERS.
I will not be so naive to hope for WM5 on Magician, instead I hope for a nice brandnew WM5 device under the christmas tree. This hope is more likely to become true
Oh, another one!
:mrgreen: :lol: BWAAA HAA HAA HAAA HAAAA HAAAA :lol: :mrgreen:
Sorry, but I find people who ask this funny!
Especially because WM5 is absolutely uninteresting. It has been very slow on almost any new devices and the "nomore backups" issue isn't important to most of us people since we know how to make good backups - don't we?
I think WM5 is interessting! Not because of the Backup-Options.
Look here:
http://mobile-review.com/pda/articles/wm2005-1-en.shtml
The Outlook Contacts for example are _much_ better in WM5.
You see the Contact's full name _and_ the numbers and calling is so much easier!
Hate to sound like a newbie (which I am, just got my Mini/Magician today and first post to the forum), but according to some websites (http://www.gsmarena.com/o2_xda_atom-1372.php), looks like the new Atom will use the same processor as the Mini? Only difference is 128MB ram and possibly wifi (although another thread is debating that issue).
Wouldn't that be reason enough to expect a way to install Atom's WM5 to the Mini?
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Hate to sound like a newbie (which I am, just got my Mini/Magician today and first post to the forum), but according to some websites (http://www.gsmarena.com/o2_xda_atom-1372.php), looks like the new Atom will use the same processor as the Mini? Only difference is 128MB ram and possibly wifi (although another thread is debating that issue).
Wouldn't that be reason enough to expect a way to install Atom's WM5 to the Mini?
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Stupy, the problem is not just the processor type. The OS has to interface with all the hardware on your device such as Camera, BT chip, WiFi, Screen, etc. All of these require "drivers" that have to be written specifically for your hardware.
Unfortunately WM5 on the Magician is almost impossible. Unofficial upgrades for other devices occured simply because M$ and/or carriers were testing the new OS on these devices and the ROM got leaked. Now that the testing is over who do you think will take his time and effort to develop this interface for free??? And that's providing he/she has the necessary resources.
At this point the only way to upgrade to WM5 is to sell your device and get a new one :-( I will probably go for the 02 XDA Atom or HTC Prophet fairly soon.
(btw, I really really hope someone proves me wrong )
look at this link
http://www.shinyshiny.tv/2005/12/pink_pda.html
the specs are almost identical to xda2mini except for the 128mb, does this mean there is still hope that wm5 would still be possible for mini?
nato said:
look at this link
http://www.shinyshiny.tv/2005/12/pink_pda.html
the specs are almost identical to xda2mini except for the 128mb, does this mean there is still hope that wm5 would still be possible for mini?
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No. How may times does it have to be said. Read the post immediately before yours. :roll:
It's not going to happen.
kta said:
Stupy, the problem is not just the processor type. The OS has to interface with all the hardware on your device such as Camera, BT chip, WiFi, Screen, etc. All of these require "drivers" that have to be written specifically for your hardware.
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Thanks kta for sorting that out. I just got the Mini, so it'll be a little while before I get the Atom - they don't sell too many of these types of phones here in Canada. No matter, I'll be happy with what I've got. Cheers!
I came across this website checking for christmas goodies and to my suprise!! they are selling the MDA Compact II http://www.clselectronicstore.co.uk/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=663. Their description states that it has wifi and WM5, is this for real? If it is I would really like to buy this device
Seen at Scancom also
Noticed on the Scancom website these devices were imminent.
I purchased my original MDA from them.
That MDA Compact II is called the HTC Charmer. It's basically the same device that we have but with a TI OMAP processor 200Mhz, WM5, 128MB and WiFi.
If you're willing to wait a bit more, there will soon be the HTC Prophet that has all these upgrades PLUS a 2 MP Camera with camera, Bluetooth ver 2.0, EDGE support, and is also Quad Band.
The HTC Prophet is already available on request here:
http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=128025
As far as I am aware, the MDA compact II is wifi compatible (SDIO chip as does its predecessor), but does not have built in wifi, I could be wrong, anyway ordered one from t-mobile yesterday and should be getting delivery on monday when I will be able to confirm this issue.
rgs
Jim
Confused?
Hi there,
Just checked the clselectronicstore website and it claims the charmer has 128Mb ram and built in WIFI... This conflicts some other claims that it doesnt....
Which is true????
Hi,
I have a T-Mobile MDA Compact II and can confirm that is does not have built in wifi.
Hope this helps
Performance MDA compact II versus HTC Magican
Can anyone report how the performance of this two compare.
Because the new one has only 200MHz CPU but it should work
more efficient
Thanks in advance
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scheruga said:
Can anyone report how the performance of this two compare.
Because the new one has only 200MHz CPU but it should work
more efficient
Thanks in advance
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By looking at the review of Wizard and others using the same 200mhz CPU. It proves it is not a good CPU choice. (Just look at how many complaint from Skype user and U will know what I mean)
This looks much like Magician to me, apart from the processor.
Wondering if the Charmer's 5.0 rom works on plain Magician??
Watch out!
hotticeboy said:
I came across this website checking for christmas goodies and to my suprise!! they are selling the MDA Compact II http://www.clselectronicstore.co.uk/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=663. Their description states that it has wifi and WM5, is this for real? If it is I would really like to buy this device
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Hott-Ice Boy is the owner of the www.clselectronicstore.com and www.clselectronicstore.co.uk sites and is a scammer.
DONT BUY FROM THIS SITE!
See http://www.who.is/whois-com/ip-address/clselectronicstore.com/ to confirm this guy is Calferni Simpson of 3 Windley Close, Forest Hill London.
Then look at http://www.vibesconnect.com/KaLz and http://www.face-pic.com/pages/view_profile.php?user=hottice_boy&1=1210926
And you'll see "Kalz", "Hott-Ice Boy" and Calferni Simpson are one and the same.
If you look at http://www.busytrade.com/company/companyInfo.php?memberid=hotticeboy&cTYPE you'll see he also called himself "Simpsons Entertainment" in 2004 (also posted under the hotticeboy alias.
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.
moved to charmer section.
we all know that there will be no wm5 4 magicin nd blueangel has already + qwert keypad and i think it is cheaper than jam ...................it just that bit is big can any body recommend any other solution or tell how well ba performs compared to mini
Yup the BA got a leaked WM5 test rom & Magician will never get WM5, but BA is more expensive. Not sure about second hand prices though.
I personally like the magician design much more & would go for a wizard, charmer etc instead of a BA.
For spec comparison you can visit the wiki, there's a lot of info there,
M
oltp said:
Yup the BA got a leaked WM5 test rom & Magician will never get WM5, but BA is more expensive. Not sure about second hand prices though.
I personally like the magician design much more & would go for a wizard, charmer etc instead of a BA.
For spec comparison you can visit the wiki, there's a lot of info there,
M
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how can be ba expensive than mini caz mini is newer accorrdin 2 gsmarena....wizard is too much costly nad charmer if i am not wrong is the jam black with wm2k3..........cam on ba is vga and that on mini is 1.3 and i think there is any difference as both stink......how is performance of wm5 on ba can we use all buttons,camera and one handed operation as supported by wm5
oltp said:
I personally like the magician design much more & would go for a wizard, charmer etc instead of a BA.
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I agree, but I wouldn't be recommend a Charmer (though I had it) as it seems that (after a while in this forum) the number of users are limited. Go for a Wizard (if you like keyboard, but it seems that it gives problems), or a Prophet.
hanmin said:
I agree, but I wouldn't be recommend a Charmer (though I had it) as it seems that (after a while in this forum) the number of users are limited. Go for a Wizard (if you like keyboard, but it seems that it gives problems), or a Prophet.
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Maybe it's just the simple fact that T-Mobile (don't know about other operators) is selling the Wizard, but not the Charmers accounts for difference in the amount of users. It seems like a good device though.
Regards, M
oltp said:
Maybe it's just the simple fact that T-Mobile (don't know about other operators) is selling the Wizard, but not the Charmers accounts for difference in the amount of users. It seems like a good device though.
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It seems that MDA Compact 2 is the only Charmer around. If that
s the case, as with probability concept, chances of number of users on Charmer will be naturally smaller.
BTW, what do you mean by T-Mobile is selling the Wizard, not the Charmer?
Ok, apparently TMO is selling different devices in the world. Here in the Netherlands they sell the Wizard, Universal & one or two of the HTC smartphones.
Sorry my mistake, but if the MDA Compact II is the only one it won't be a large seller.
oltp said:
Ok, apparently TMO is selling different devices in the world. Here in the Netherlands they sell the Wizard, Universal & one or two of the HTC smartphones.
Sorry my mistake, but if the MDA Compact II is the only one it won't be a large seller.
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any body not intersted in ba plz i want to exchange my mini with a ba can anybody tell how well wm5 works on ba and 1 more thing does bluetooth on newer pdas like mini stins caz it it is tooooooooo slow in my case (maybe caz of ms stock)
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how can be ba expensive than mini caz mini is newer accorrdin 2 gsmarena....wizard is too much costly nad charmer if i am not wrong is the jam black with wm2k3..........cam on ba is vga and that on mini is 1.3 and i think there is any difference as both stink......how is performance of wm5 on ba can we use all buttons,camera and one handed operation as supported by wm5
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I upgraded from magician to BA 2 months ago. interestingly, the VGA camera on BA is a lot better than magician's 1.3 M. Speed is same on both devices(magician uses more advanced pxa 272 while BA uses pxa 260). keyboard is ok(not great like universal though). Battery life is bad compared to magician. Wi-fi inclusion is great. BT is better too(widcomm)
kdskamal said:
max414 said:
how can be ba expensive than mini caz mini is newer accorrdin 2 gsmarena....wizard is too much costly nad charmer if i am not wrong is the jam black with wm2k3..........cam on ba is vga and that on mini is 1.3 and i think there is any difference as both stink......how is performance of wm5 on ba can we use all buttons,camera and one handed operation as supported by wm5
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I upgraded from magician to BA 2 months ago. interestingly, the VGA camera on BA is a lot better than magician's 1.3 M. Speed is same on both devices(magician uses more advanced pxa 272 while BA uses pxa 260). keyboard is ok(not great like universal though). Battery life is bad compared to magician. Wi-fi inclusion is great. BT is better too(widcomm)
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ok u helped a lot since ur a ba user can u share ur experience on wm5 for ba and alo the size compared to mini ...........and if u tell that it is costly than mini or not
max414 said:
ok u helped a lot since ur a ba user can u share ur experience on wm5 for ba and alo the size compared to mini ...........and if u tell that it is costly than mini or not
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size-wise..its a mammoth, but, on the other hand, i can do a lot of work on it. On mini, the small screen prevented me from doing some serious work on it. eyes used to get tired easily(i am just 18 ). wm5 on BA is ok..tuma 1.4 has brought some problems, but, tuma 1.3 still works for many of the users.
i have reverted back to wm2003SE, because of speed(2003SE is like 40% faster than wm5), memory(128mb(ram)+44mb(storage)+13mb(ext rom)=185mb !!) compared to wm5 ba which has only 44+13 mb memory(which is still greater than universal, wizard)..he he
wm5 is good on BA, all-in-all
kdskamal said:
max414 said:
ok u helped a lot since ur a ba user can u share ur experience on wm5 for ba and alo the size compared to mini ...........and if u tell that it is costly than mini or not
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size-wise..its a mammoth, but, on the other hand, i can do a lot of work on it. On mini, the small screen prevented me from doing some serious work on it. eyes used to get tired easily(i am just 18 ). wm5 on BA is ok..tuma 1.4 has brought some problems, but, tuma 1.3 still works for many of the users.
i have reverted back to wm2003SE, because of speed(2003SE is like 40% faster than wm5), memory(128mb(ram)+44mb(storage)+13mb(ext rom)=185mb !!) compared to wm5 ba which has only 44+13 mb memory(which is still greater than universal, wizard)..he he
wm5 is good on BA, all-in-all
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all info from u was quite helpful .....since u upgraded from mini can u tell it is expensive than mini or not and what if we compare this mamooth(ba) with new wm5 phones like universal and k jam .......not jamin caz it is tiny like jam
max414 said:
all info from u was quite helpful .....since u upgraded from mini can u tell it is expensive than mini or not and what if we compare this mamooth(ba) with new wm5 phones like universal and k jam .......not jamin caz it is tiny like jam
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Yes, it is ard $70-80 dollars expensive than mini. Universal has its own share of problems. But, it is completly different product IMHO. On the other hand, K-jam is not at all mammoth size. It just a bit too think(almost similar width as of universal). If you seek for similar size as that of mini, go in for jamin(imate) or Atom(o2)
Hi Folks,
I need a bit of help choosing my next PDA, I've had loads of pocketPC, windows mobile devices inc. HP Jornada 548, Tosh 540, Dell X5, iPAQ hx4700 but this will be my first forage into "convergance" devices.
I was originaly tempted to upgrade my phone to the Orange UK version of the HTC TyTN but i'm now getting cold feed with all this talk of new devices due out, I know there are always newer and better just around the corner but I don't want to jump into a 12 month contract just to find a newer and better unit being available next week.
My dilema is this.....after seeing the specs for the O2 Zinc with the Xscale 520Mhz processor and seeing the benchmarks against the TyTN I'm now more inclinded to wait the for the release of this Zinc (26th March 07), however on my travels through the tinternet I have stumbled upon what I would consider my ideal device...the HTC Kaiser, does anybody have any ideas which network will be carring this device and when it will be released????
I'm fairly sure the overwelling opinion on the site will be for the TyTN but I just need to know what makes this device a "No Brainer" compaired to the O2 Zinc.
Cheers Jim
jb2001 said:
Hi Folks,
I need a bit of help choosing my next PDA, I've had loads of pocketPC, windows mobile devices inc. HP Jornada 548, Tosh 540, Dell X5, iPAQ hx4700 but this will be my first forage into "convergance" devices.
I was originaly tempted to upgrade my phone to the Orange UK version of the HTC TyTN but i'm now getting cold feed with all this talk of new devices due out, I know there are always newer and better just around the corner but I don't want to jump into a 12 month contract just to find a newer and better unit being available next week.
My dilema is this.....after seeing the specs for the O2 Zinc with the Xscale 520Mhz processor and seeing the benchmarks against the TyTN I'm now more inclinded to wait the for the release of this Zinc (26th March 07), however on my travels through the tinternet I have stumbled upon what I would consider my ideal device...the HTC Kaiser, does anybody have any ideas which network will be carring this device and when it will be released????
I'm fairly sure the overwelling opinion on the site will be for the TyTN but I just need to know what makes this device a "No Brainer" compaired to the O2 Zinc.
Cheers Jim
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Not really the answer you want, but my philosophy on life is, get the best you can today and not worry about what's out tomorrow... otherwise you'll never get anything because you'll always find that a month or so down the line something better will come out... so to say!
Otherwise, the Zinc does seem impressive... but O2 have already delayed the release once, so who's to say it will actually be out at the end of march anyway
True....Very True. The exception to that case was the iPAQ hx4700. which in my opinion is still one of the very best PDAs out there and its now 2 years old ???
I decided to hang back for the release of the Zinc hoping WM6 will be on it. have you tried flashing your rom to wm6??? if so did you have any problems setting the phone back up for T-Mobile??
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True....Very True. The exception to that case was the iPAQ hx4700. which in my opinion is still one of the very best PDAs out there and its now 2 years old ???
I decided to hang back for the release of the Zinc hoping WM6 will be on it. have you tried flashing your rom to wm6??? if so did you have any problems setting the phone back up for T-Mobile??
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I'll agree with you on that... I used to have a hx4700 myself... it was the VGA aspect that appealed to me, but I felt it was before its time... oh, and slightly big!
I think the Zinc will have v5.2 on it???
I've flashed my MDA several times and can almost memorise the internet/mms settings that takes approx. 2 mins to put back in... its all good fun
You may never flash WM6 on a Zinc...
stewcp said:
I've flashed my MDA several times and can almost memorise the internet/mms settings that takes approx. 2 mins to put back in... its all good fun
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Yeah - similar case here. I flash frequently and I could probably set it all back up again the way I like it with my eyes closed Top tip: get CAB files for all your favourite apps (and any relevant serial numbers) and keep them in a folder on your storage card. That way you can even get all set up from a full reset with nothing but your phone.
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Yeah - similar case here. I flash frequently and I could probably set it all back up again the way I like it with my eyes closed Top tip: get CAB files for all your favourite apps (and any relevant serial numbers) and keep them in a folder on your storage card. That way you can even get all set up from a full reset with nothing but your phone.
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Absolutly agree.... I kept all my CAB files on my SD card..Just incase.. but that was WM03se. Is there a HTC "official" rom update available for wm6...where did the wm6 roms come from?? oh and whats the best...
back to the original question,
I own a TYTN and ive had good test run with the Zinc, even though the Zinc has a faster OS the tytn feels faster and reacts better. The finish of the Zinc is a big cheap looking too.
If i was to buy a new phone today it would be the Tytn again, if i was to wait then it would be kaiser or even one of the new samsungs.
Cheers lads.....Just bought a TYTN - Orange SPV M3100 to be more precise.
Now whats the score with all these ROM upgrades.
and is there a today plugin simliar to the Orange today screen
Problem with O2 is the data charges. They're probably the worst out of all the UK networks!
I'd hate to get a phone like the Zinc or Kaiser and have to constantly monitor my data useage.
jb2001 said:
Cheers lads.....Just bought a TYTN - Orange SPV M3100 to be more precise.
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Excellent choice (in terms of looks - a very stylish design).
jb2001 said:
Now whats the score with all these ROM upgrades.
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That's far too big a question. You've got some reading to do - see the wiki
for the mods.. you can delete this message if you want...
i just want people warned specially in asia region that o2 zinc is not that good ..
although better processor ( but you will not see the difference compare to HTC hermes ),camera and o2 integrated software..
THere are many other choices on O2 products... Atom exec, atom life..etc..
Just not this is O2 Zinc is not worth recommending....
or im strongly recommending HTC HERMES (Dopod 838 pro, Softbank, or the HTC Tytn if available) if your fun of slide keyboard...
I promised you this will be a great help on you...
Trust me...
I just want you to be happy like me now..