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Magician 2 ... rumours rumours!!

Don't know if this old news for some ...
http://www.theunwired.net/./?itemid=2696
An identical device to the Magican with WM5, WiFI, 128MB and 2 replaced buttons!

I spoke to our logistics manager today (TMUK) and he confirmed that the Compact II looks the same as the original with Windows 5 OS. Didn't have anymore tech specs to hand although don't be surprised if some more case colours appear. If I get anymore info I'll update.

BulletTime,
many thanks for your reply. Looks like we might get the long awaited WM5 through "official" channels then!
Hence my excitement!

Athena anyone?

I'm not entirely sure if this is the Athena or not. I heard rumours that this could be the athena but I also heard rumours of an athena that has a different shape than the Magician altogether. I think we'll have to wait and see ...

Could be the HTC Prophet

German tmobile also claims a new release of our mdacompact should appear before christmas. And "yes" they say its planned to be equipped with WM2005 wlan and 128mb.
Greetings

T-mobile compact II (HTC - ???)
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4493.html
Pro: shaped as magician but with windows and OK buttons; wifi; wm 5.0
Cons: no hardware buttons for wm 5.0 softbuttons.
XDA Atom (Quanta - Athena)
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4453.html
HTC Prophet
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4436.html
Pro: wm 5.0; 2MP camera; fm radio; softbuttons; wifi
Cons: only MiniSD!!!
Obviously, images and specs may change before release. We have only rumors.
Bye bye
Isidoro

No more a rumour!!!!
The word is out!!! :
German tmobile is offering the mdacompact 2 around middle of novembert2005.
Specs:
128mb
Windows mobile 2005!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seemingly NO wlan!!!!
See photo from official catalogue:

Are u sure the photo is not a fake? Compact II should have Start and OK hardware buttons instead of contacts and agenda. See
this link.
Isidoro

risidoro said:
Are u sure the photo is not a fake? Compact II should have Start and OK hardware buttons instead of contacts and agenda. See
this link.
Isidoro
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Definately not a fake!!!!!
Picked up the new catalogue for november just an hour ago!
Greetings

So Compact II will be a S110 with windows mobile 5.0? Nothing more, nothing less? Well, at least i think we'll be able to install its rom in our magician in short times!!!
Oh Prophet, we are u???
Bye

Could you please scan page 12 and link it for us?
Or at least tell us what further information about the MDAcII is given on page 12?
Edit:
It seems that the missing page/information is given here.

That's great, because we could use the firmware and have wm5 on our magican i suppose... If anyone have the solution for that please provide us with it.thx

Done for prophet
succesfully done the upgrade from german rom to wwe rom
grazie isidoro

elconte said:
succesfully done the upgrade from german rom to wwe rom
grazie isidoro
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I don't see the relationship of this post with respect to the main topic.

Just wanna give u guys this...

9100 is great, little big to carry around, but nice with w-lan and everything else. WM2005, didn´t like it in the beginning but now after 1 week I like it.. as all the other windows-based things u can do whatever u want
But now it´s confirmed, S200 is coming to sweden in the beginning of 2006. The size is like s100, s110 unbeatable......
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babe...obile-review.com/pda/review/htc-prophet.shtml

i want one. is this thing just a prototype or htc for sure is gonna make it? and i read it has wifi 802.11g could this be true?

The English version is also available:
http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/review/htc-prophet-en.shtml
Compare with Magician, the camera of Prophet has improved a lot. Added Wifi and EDGE but the CPU is changed to slower OMAP... :!:
I donno why HTC want to change CPU type. But this totally prevent existing Magician users from directly upgrade the ROM from WM2003SE to WM5 without buying new device... :roll:

fone_fanatic said:
i want one. is this thing just a prototype or htc for sure is gonna make it? and i read it has wifi 802.11g could this be true?
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yes. Built-in module Wi- fie of version g;

T Mobile
This device is already available with another name from T Mobile :lol:
But as said, OMAP OMAP OMAP
I will wait until next year for the new devices

How does this thing compare to the HTC Charmer aka T-Mobile MDA Compact II, which is supposed to be the WM2005 successor to Magician?
And Charmer should be available already from T-Mobile ;-)

As far as I know, the Charmer has no Wifi and no 2 MPix camera.
@ all
Don't forget: The Hermes is going to come out pretty soon (first half of next year they said).

magician vs blueangel

we all know that there will be no wm5 4 magicin nd blueangel has already + qwert keypad and i think it is cheaper than jam ...................it just that bit is big can any body recommend any other solution or tell how well ba performs compared to mini

Yup the BA got a leaked WM5 test rom & Magician will never get WM5, but BA is more expensive. Not sure about second hand prices though.
I personally like the magician design much more & would go for a wizard, charmer etc instead of a BA.
For spec comparison you can visit the wiki, there's a lot of info there,
M

oltp said:
Yup the BA got a leaked WM5 test rom & Magician will never get WM5, but BA is more expensive. Not sure about second hand prices though.
I personally like the magician design much more & would go for a wizard, charmer etc instead of a BA.
For spec comparison you can visit the wiki, there's a lot of info there,
M
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how can be ba expensive than mini caz mini is newer accorrdin 2 gsmarena....wizard is too much costly nad charmer if i am not wrong is the jam black with wm2k3..........cam on ba is vga and that on mini is 1.3 and i think there is any difference as both stink......how is performance of wm5 on ba can we use all buttons,camera and one handed operation as supported by wm5

oltp said:
I personally like the magician design much more & would go for a wizard, charmer etc instead of a BA.
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I agree, but I wouldn't be recommend a Charmer (though I had it) as it seems that (after a while in this forum) the number of users are limited. Go for a Wizard (if you like keyboard, but it seems that it gives problems), or a Prophet.

hanmin said:
I agree, but I wouldn't be recommend a Charmer (though I had it) as it seems that (after a while in this forum) the number of users are limited. Go for a Wizard (if you like keyboard, but it seems that it gives problems), or a Prophet.
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Maybe it's just the simple fact that T-Mobile (don't know about other operators) is selling the Wizard, but not the Charmers accounts for difference in the amount of users. It seems like a good device though.
Regards, M

oltp said:
Maybe it's just the simple fact that T-Mobile (don't know about other operators) is selling the Wizard, but not the Charmers accounts for difference in the amount of users. It seems like a good device though.
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It seems that MDA Compact 2 is the only Charmer around. If that
s the case, as with probability concept, chances of number of users on Charmer will be naturally smaller.
BTW, what do you mean by T-Mobile is selling the Wizard, not the Charmer?

Ok, apparently TMO is selling different devices in the world. Here in the Netherlands they sell the Wizard, Universal & one or two of the HTC smartphones.
Sorry my mistake, but if the MDA Compact II is the only one it won't be a large seller.

oltp said:
Ok, apparently TMO is selling different devices in the world. Here in the Netherlands they sell the Wizard, Universal & one or two of the HTC smartphones.
Sorry my mistake, but if the MDA Compact II is the only one it won't be a large seller.
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any body not intersted in ba plz i want to exchange my mini with a ba can anybody tell how well wm5 works on ba and 1 more thing does bluetooth on newer pdas like mini stins caz it it is tooooooooo slow in my case (maybe caz of ms stock)

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how can be ba expensive than mini caz mini is newer accorrdin 2 gsmarena....wizard is too much costly nad charmer if i am not wrong is the jam black with wm2k3..........cam on ba is vga and that on mini is 1.3 and i think there is any difference as both stink......how is performance of wm5 on ba can we use all buttons,camera and one handed operation as supported by wm5
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I upgraded from magician to BA 2 months ago. interestingly, the VGA camera on BA is a lot better than magician's 1.3 M. Speed is same on both devices(magician uses more advanced pxa 272 while BA uses pxa 260). keyboard is ok(not great like universal though). Battery life is bad compared to magician. Wi-fi inclusion is great. BT is better too(widcomm)

kdskamal said:
max414 said:
how can be ba expensive than mini caz mini is newer accorrdin 2 gsmarena....wizard is too much costly nad charmer if i am not wrong is the jam black with wm2k3..........cam on ba is vga and that on mini is 1.3 and i think there is any difference as both stink......how is performance of wm5 on ba can we use all buttons,camera and one handed operation as supported by wm5
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I upgraded from magician to BA 2 months ago. interestingly, the VGA camera on BA is a lot better than magician's 1.3 M. Speed is same on both devices(magician uses more advanced pxa 272 while BA uses pxa 260). keyboard is ok(not great like universal though). Battery life is bad compared to magician. Wi-fi inclusion is great. BT is better too(widcomm)
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ok u helped a lot since ur a ba user can u share ur experience on wm5 for ba and alo the size compared to mini ...........and if u tell that it is costly than mini or not

max414 said:
ok u helped a lot since ur a ba user can u share ur experience on wm5 for ba and alo the size compared to mini ...........and if u tell that it is costly than mini or not
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size-wise..its a mammoth, but, on the other hand, i can do a lot of work on it. On mini, the small screen prevented me from doing some serious work on it. eyes used to get tired easily(i am just 18 ). wm5 on BA is ok..tuma 1.4 has brought some problems, but, tuma 1.3 still works for many of the users.
i have reverted back to wm2003SE, because of speed(2003SE is like 40% faster than wm5), memory(128mb(ram)+44mb(storage)+13mb(ext rom)=185mb !!) compared to wm5 ba which has only 44+13 mb memory(which is still greater than universal, wizard)..he he
wm5 is good on BA, all-in-all

kdskamal said:
max414 said:
ok u helped a lot since ur a ba user can u share ur experience on wm5 for ba and alo the size compared to mini ...........and if u tell that it is costly than mini or not
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size-wise..its a mammoth, but, on the other hand, i can do a lot of work on it. On mini, the small screen prevented me from doing some serious work on it. eyes used to get tired easily(i am just 18 ). wm5 on BA is ok..tuma 1.4 has brought some problems, but, tuma 1.3 still works for many of the users.
i have reverted back to wm2003SE, because of speed(2003SE is like 40% faster than wm5), memory(128mb(ram)+44mb(storage)+13mb(ext rom)=185mb !!) compared to wm5 ba which has only 44+13 mb memory(which is still greater than universal, wizard)..he he
wm5 is good on BA, all-in-all
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all info from u was quite helpful .....since u upgraded from mini can u tell it is expensive than mini or not and what if we compare this mamooth(ba) with new wm5 phones like universal and k jam .......not jamin caz it is tiny like jam

max414 said:
all info from u was quite helpful .....since u upgraded from mini can u tell it is expensive than mini or not and what if we compare this mamooth(ba) with new wm5 phones like universal and k jam .......not jamin caz it is tiny like jam
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Yes, it is ard $70-80 dollars expensive than mini. Universal has its own share of problems. But, it is completly different product IMHO. On the other hand, K-jam is not at all mammoth size. It just a bit too think(almost similar width as of universal). If you seek for similar size as that of mini, go in for jamin(imate) or Atom(o2)

TyTN vs Zinc - help me choose??

Hi Folks,
I need a bit of help choosing my next PDA, I've had loads of pocketPC, windows mobile devices inc. HP Jornada 548, Tosh 540, Dell X5, iPAQ hx4700 but this will be my first forage into "convergance" devices.
I was originaly tempted to upgrade my phone to the Orange UK version of the HTC TyTN but i'm now getting cold feed with all this talk of new devices due out, I know there are always newer and better just around the corner but I don't want to jump into a 12 month contract just to find a newer and better unit being available next week.
My dilema is this.....after seeing the specs for the O2 Zinc with the Xscale 520Mhz processor and seeing the benchmarks against the TyTN I'm now more inclinded to wait the for the release of this Zinc (26th March 07), however on my travels through the tinternet I have stumbled upon what I would consider my ideal device...the HTC Kaiser, does anybody have any ideas which network will be carring this device and when it will be released????
I'm fairly sure the overwelling opinion on the site will be for the TyTN but I just need to know what makes this device a "No Brainer" compaired to the O2 Zinc.
Cheers Jim

jb2001 said:
Hi Folks,
I need a bit of help choosing my next PDA, I've had loads of pocketPC, windows mobile devices inc. HP Jornada 548, Tosh 540, Dell X5, iPAQ hx4700 but this will be my first forage into "convergance" devices.
I was originaly tempted to upgrade my phone to the Orange UK version of the HTC TyTN but i'm now getting cold feed with all this talk of new devices due out, I know there are always newer and better just around the corner but I don't want to jump into a 12 month contract just to find a newer and better unit being available next week.
My dilema is this.....after seeing the specs for the O2 Zinc with the Xscale 520Mhz processor and seeing the benchmarks against the TyTN I'm now more inclinded to wait the for the release of this Zinc (26th March 07), however on my travels through the tinternet I have stumbled upon what I would consider my ideal device...the HTC Kaiser, does anybody have any ideas which network will be carring this device and when it will be released????
I'm fairly sure the overwelling opinion on the site will be for the TyTN but I just need to know what makes this device a "No Brainer" compaired to the O2 Zinc.
Cheers Jim
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Not really the answer you want, but my philosophy on life is, get the best you can today and not worry about what's out tomorrow... otherwise you'll never get anything because you'll always find that a month or so down the line something better will come out... so to say!
Otherwise, the Zinc does seem impressive... but O2 have already delayed the release once, so who's to say it will actually be out at the end of march anyway

True....Very True. The exception to that case was the iPAQ hx4700. which in my opinion is still one of the very best PDAs out there and its now 2 years old ???
I decided to hang back for the release of the Zinc hoping WM6 will be on it. have you tried flashing your rom to wm6??? if so did you have any problems setting the phone back up for T-Mobile??

jb2001 said:
True....Very True. The exception to that case was the iPAQ hx4700. which in my opinion is still one of the very best PDAs out there and its now 2 years old ???
I decided to hang back for the release of the Zinc hoping WM6 will be on it. have you tried flashing your rom to wm6??? if so did you have any problems setting the phone back up for T-Mobile??
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I'll agree with you on that... I used to have a hx4700 myself... it was the VGA aspect that appealed to me, but I felt it was before its time... oh, and slightly big!
I think the Zinc will have v5.2 on it???
I've flashed my MDA several times and can almost memorise the internet/mms settings that takes approx. 2 mins to put back in... its all good fun

You may never flash WM6 on a Zinc...

stewcp said:
I've flashed my MDA several times and can almost memorise the internet/mms settings that takes approx. 2 mins to put back in... its all good fun
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Yeah - similar case here. I flash frequently and I could probably set it all back up again the way I like it with my eyes closed Top tip: get CAB files for all your favourite apps (and any relevant serial numbers) and keep them in a folder on your storage card. That way you can even get all set up from a full reset with nothing but your phone.

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Yeah - similar case here. I flash frequently and I could probably set it all back up again the way I like it with my eyes closed Top tip: get CAB files for all your favourite apps (and any relevant serial numbers) and keep them in a folder on your storage card. That way you can even get all set up from a full reset with nothing but your phone.
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Absolutly agree.... I kept all my CAB files on my SD card..Just incase.. but that was WM03se. Is there a HTC "official" rom update available for wm6...where did the wm6 roms come from?? oh and whats the best...

back to the original question,
I own a TYTN and ive had good test run with the Zinc, even though the Zinc has a faster OS the tytn feels faster and reacts better. The finish of the Zinc is a big cheap looking too.
If i was to buy a new phone today it would be the Tytn again, if i was to wait then it would be kaiser or even one of the new samsungs.

Cheers lads.....Just bought a TYTN - Orange SPV M3100 to be more precise.
Now whats the score with all these ROM upgrades.
and is there a today plugin simliar to the Orange today screen

Problem with O2 is the data charges. They're probably the worst out of all the UK networks!
I'd hate to get a phone like the Zinc or Kaiser and have to constantly monitor my data useage.

jb2001 said:
Cheers lads.....Just bought a TYTN - Orange SPV M3100 to be more precise.
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Excellent choice (in terms of looks - a very stylish design).
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Now whats the score with all these ROM upgrades.
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That's far too big a question. You've got some reading to do - see the wiki

for the mods.. you can delete this message if you want...
i just want people warned specially in asia region that o2 zinc is not that good ..
although better processor ( but you will not see the difference compare to HTC hermes ),camera and o2 integrated software..
THere are many other choices on O2 products... Atom exec, atom life..etc..
Just not this is O2 Zinc is not worth recommending....
or im strongly recommending HTC HERMES (Dopod 838 pro, Softbank, or the HTC Tytn if available) if your fun of slide keyboard...
I promised you this will be a great help on you...
Trust me...
I just want you to be happy like me now..

New Trinity/HTC p3600i

Yep, everyone here in oz is talking about this- no places are stocking the Dopod D810 anymore as they cant get it.....
apparently within the next few weeks a new HTC P3600i will be released with more memory and a faster processor......
not sure if this is fiction or not but sounds good- strange though that they would release it here before anywhere else... we always seem to get technology like this about 6-12months after everywhere else (we only got electricity last week! )...... no iphone until late this year.... etc....
personally i think that it is just a rebranding of the current Dopod D810? Anyone from here who has good sources can confirm this?
look at the post halfway down the page here- one guy buying a heap from 3 has been told of the P3600i....:
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=658349&p=-1#bottom

Personally I think it's just a rebranding ... cause the latest official Dopod WM6 ROM (we all jumped on ) states "HTC_P3600i" in the 'About' screen...
Or....in the case of a real P3600i, this would explain why there are some issues with this Dopod ROM on a regular P3600...
Hmz..

It's true
HTC is updating the Trinity with a 500MHz processor and larger memory. Also known as CHT9110 (our P3600 is CHT9100) in Taiwan and offered for about 20% price increase.

Why would they do this when HTC is unveiling a few new phones in a few months? To me the Polaris is the phone to get.....

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Why would they do this when HTC is unveiling a few new phones in a few months? To me the Polaris is the phone to get.....
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I don't see a 3G small (i.e. without keyboard) phone with GPS in the HTC roadmap so maybe there's room for an improved P3600.

this will be my next phone if htc release it in europe.

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I don't see a 3G small (i.e. without keyboard) phone with GPS in the HTC roadmap so maybe there's room for an improved P3600.
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Huh? The Polaris is the same exact phone as the 3300 but with 3G. It has a 2.8" screen, not a 3.5" screen, that was a typo. I have spec screen shots of the Polaris and it looks great.
Look at my ActiveSync, one of the choices is HTC P3600i

after flashing my trinity w/ Dopod's official WM6 ROM, activesync detects it as a P3600i already

it seem soo pc'ish to be willing to replace a device to get 100Mhz more
battery life is more importent
more so if one like to be online with messenger with 3g while on the move
i dont see much real world change in that
polaris seems like a pretty cool device imho

Yep it may be rebranded as HTC P3600i or Dopod810x anyway from what I have seen so far in some Asian websites (HTC P3600 = CHT9100 and the HTC P3600i = CHT9110)
the new specifications may be:
Windows Mobile 6 Professional
Samsung 500Mhz CPU
256MB ROM/64MB RAM
All the rest should remain the same as the previous model.
I can't say that it is 100% sure but you can still have a look at:
http://mobile.163.com/07/0718/10/3JM8DP840011179O.html
below all the pictures.
One big question remain, how much will this new model cost?

I wish 128 Mb RAM

Guybrush said:
I wish 128 Mb RAM
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Exactly.
You would think if there really was an upgrade you would have heard about it. I mean the Artemis is getting an upgrade and we are hearing an official announcement and they gave it 128mb of RAM.
Edit: It does exist...
http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=224&t=356845

Guybrush said:
I wish 128 Mb RAM
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its 64RAM see here http://203.84.199.31/language/trans...cts/pda_CHT9110/pda_CHT9110_fea.html&lp=zt_en

it's still a preproducton.. maybe they will change 128 Mb

128M of RAM would definitely cause battery to drainer much quicker - unless they upgrade the battery too.

P3600i available in Australia in one week.
It really does exist!
Here is the preordering page at a shop here in town.
The price is $1099 AUD.
http://www.ow.com.au/Customer-Assistance/HTC-P3600i-3G-GPS-Pocket-PC

HTC P3600i in latest "3"cattledog!
Yep guyz and guyesses. The latest 3 Three cattledog inside back cover shows and lists the HTC P3600i available on a $49 plan for $32 per month. Now that's $4 less than the Dopod D810 albeit on a $29 plan.
Organizer world have it listed also at $1099 due in about 10 days or so.
Extra ram and 500 processor and my favorite a built in GPS receiver.
Just tought you would like to know that it really is happening!
woja

The Kaiser will be king again!
Actually I reckon that the HTC Kaiser will be the one to wait for coz it's got lots of goodies incuding a keyboard which sits at an angle, has a great and worthwhile camera etc but I don't think it has GPS. There are reviws on the web.
woja

woja53 said:
Actually I reckon that the HTC Kaiser will be the one to wait for coz it's got lots of goodies incuding a keyboard which sits at an angle, has a great and worthwhile camera etc but I don't think it has GPS. There are reviws on the web.
woja
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This is your opinion. I have used the Kaiser and as great of a phone it is, IT IS NOT FOR EVERYONE.
I dislike slide out keyboards as I have had 2 phones like this and got rid of them both. I also dislike heavy phones and this phone is one of the heaviest phones I have held in a while.
Anyway, why would you post about the Kaiser in this thread? If anything, I would be waiting for the Polaris personally, not the Kaiser.

http://www.mobilewhack.com/-htc-touch-cht9110-phone/
is the CHT a D810 w/ Touch interface?