Does someone know if navigon 4 works great on the magician ?
Can we receive some feedback from users that have tried it ?
Thanks.
I have used it and it works fine although personally I prefer TomTom
yaaah
I have the same problem with Navigon 4.2 when I connect it to a bluetooth GPS,
I'm tryed with so many options but not yet, nothing at all, IT DOSN'T WORK WITH THE BLOODY BLUETOOTH GPS, unless I find I a way out to change the bluetooth setting there,
I hope anybody can advise...
regards
Navigon works fine with my BT GPS. No problem at all.
TO jacoh.
Did you mean it is working with the imate jam (magician)?
if yes,
did you pair the bluetooth gps with com5 (as outbound)?
then normal setting of navigon,
then work fine (it is not finding the bt gps at all) where other small navigation software finds it and work with but not the navigon,
ANY SPECIAL STEP YOU DID TO LET IT WORK OR WHAT?
please advise!
thanx in advance
maybe you should call the Navigon software vendor and ask why it does not work.
unless you did not bought the software of course, but you certainly are not a f**king hacker are you?
Yes. It is working with iMate Jam (well it's a Qtek S100 with french OS). Com5 in Navigon settings. GPS is an emtac. No problem. Most of the time, problems come from BT pairing. Does your GPS receiver comes with a test application (emtac provides one for example)?
to mms72 :
i've read that the 4.2 doesn't work. Only the 4.01 does.
to jacoch :
Is it slooow or not ?
for example, when you don't follow the route, how long does it take to recalculate a new one (big delay or not) ?
thanks.
I've heard poeple in France saying it's quite slow to recalculate and almost unusable in cities. I have no problem on my side. It takes 1-2s to recalculate. But it seems to depend on the map density. I live in switzerland in a small city and the maps are probably simpler than the map of Paris or London.
Hi all,
I spend a lot of time to get MN4.2 working reliable. It depends on the protocol that your GPS is working with. As default for my RBT1000 was
GGA=1, GSA=1, GSV=5 RMC=1,GLL=0 and VTG=0. With this configuration the bluetooth connection will lost from time to time.
Now i have changed the protocol to GGA=1 and VTG=1. This combination works perfect for me. In some case (depends on your hardware) you need
GSA=1 also,
\\Yoshi
thank you yoshi:
simple and small question:
How to change those protocls :roll: in my imate jam..
Hi,
It depends on your mouse how to change the protocolls.
In my case the mouse came with a special software to change the protokoll. You can also some special tools for that for example:
winfast navigator.
\\Yoshi
thank you for the advice Yoshi
thank you Yoshi,
it (MN4.2) finaly worked with Holux GR-230 Bluetooth GPS after I changed some protocls (((( BuT )))) not stable , it works like 2 sec's on and 4 sec's off in finding the GPS Signal and I'm still trying to play with protocls to find the best combinations...
:evil: :evil: :evil: still fighting with it... :evil: :evil: :evil:
regards,
MN4.2 working great on my MDA compact with Fortuna Bluetooth GPS.
Mapfile > 330 MB! on 1 GB SD-Card.
Waiting for my 2GB Card to put the whole European map file on it.
Excellent product!
Just purchased MN4.2 with Navigon's GPS receiver. Their own receiver is great because it has TMC reception for traffic updates.
The software runs really well, routes are very fast calculated, no problems at all.
I think this software is really nice, all completely usable without stylus using the d-pad, it might look less appealing than TomTom, but it is way more sophisticated, and the maps are much better quality.
On their website they offer a very attractive upgrade price from any competitive product.
Only issue I noticed so far is that when I miss a turn it is sometimes very fast in giving me another route, and sometimes it is slower, don't know why, but always acceptable.
The only problem is with voice guidance, as it sometimes speaks too late. Particularly when there are turnings one after the other (very close, say 20m), then the voice guidance is a bit slow. It is ok if I am driving slowly, otherwise it speaks too late.
Having a glimpse at the map display clarifies any doubt, so no big issue.
The software is also extremely stable, you can open and close hundreds times without any problem. In my case, everything is installed on SD Card.
For the bluetooth, I first paired using the OS bluetooth config screen, and then I opened MN4, and gave COM5 as the bluetooth port. If it doesn't work, you should restart the program after switching off and on the receiver.
By the way, I live in London.
When I will have more experience with the product, I'll post further impressions.
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Ok I've pretty much tried everything, been browsing the boards for over 6 hours for solutions. I've tried everything and just flat out can not get my Bluetooth GPS to work with preetty much any software I've tried. Using the T-Mobile MDA USA model here with Windows Mobile 5.0.
I did the registry tweak and managed to get the GPS Icon in my connections section. Messed with all the settings there, no luck.
I'm using a Ambicom BT-GPS that I used to use with my IPAQ 6315. Worked flawlessly with IGuidance but no luck. The MDA see's the device, successfully pairs the device. But no matter what settings I try to use I just can't get anything good to happen here. Should I abandon the Ambicom GPS? Is it just not going to work with the MDA? Should I try other software? I'm not all about shelling out bucks for software that I'm not sure is going to work.
Is anybody out there using a working bluetooth GPS setup with the USA T-Mobile MDA? What are you using, what are you running and what hoops did you have to jump through to get it working? I don't mind spending a little bit of money if I know it's going to work.
You did not state which model ambicom gps receiver you have but have you tried the updated drivers here for wm5?
http://www.ambicom.com/support/installation/gps/index.htm
hope this helps
Sorry bout that, it's the basic 1.0 version, BT-GPS...
Apparantly they don't let me download it because I don't send them enough money. That only works with their version of the navigator which is basically the IGuidance software re-branded. I do however have the 2.1 version of IGuidance.
That may be your problem then - try to get wm5 drivers for your device - not sure where from.
I am not a gps expert but few of the readers have praised the holux 236 gps and works with the wizard - and has the new gps chip
see here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=44567&highlight=gps
For some reason, my first Holux GPSlim 236 did the same thing (Mapopolis this time). Surprisingly, an exchange did the trick. If you have a friend with a PDA, I'd suggest he try it too and see if it isn't a bad unit. That's the way I found out.
JB
I have had a huge problem with getting GPS software to work with my MDA... the only marginal success I had was when i got Tomtom Navigator working with my Holux GPSlim 236. At first it didnt work, and I thought I hit a road block. But I switched the outgoing Com ports and got it working. But then I realized that I only had the Great Britain maps, so i downloaded the California maps, but the software wont work. I gave up on Tomtom and am going another route. I really cant get it working. Here is the link where I got the software for Tomtom. All other programs wouldnt work because there is an incompatability with Windows Mobile 5.0. This file works. http://thepiratebay.org/details.php?id=3410079 Good luck.
Going a bit off topic (and not very helpful), but i was amazed to find out the BT Handsfree and BT GPS works at the same time
I'm dead happy to be able to talk and use TomTom at the same time. Everyone i asked said you cant use to BT devices at the same time. Great stuff.
Yes I do enjoy the fact that BT handsfree and BT GPS work in conjunction on my Wizard... really nice.
As for the original poster's issues. I use iGuidance with my Wizard (8125) and it was a bit confusing to get going at first. This is what I had to do.
1. Pair the GPS and the Wizard
2. Select the Com Ports tab and set up a new OUTGOING port, it should default to com6. I would uncheck the secure connection box as I don't think you have to have a secure connection to your GPS, but thats just me. If it doesn't work try checking it.
3. In IGuidance select the tools, GPS options, COM Port, and set it to com 6 just like it defaulted to com 6 in the settings above.
4. Tap the GPS icon and see if you have data streaming over the BT GPS connection. Hopefully you do!
I find that iGuidance is a bit strange in that it wants to hit the GPS on the port so it actively goes to the GPS it just does not sit there and wait so that makes things a bit strange. Also you most likely need the 2.1.3.2NA version on your MDA. All other 2.1.3 versions have an issue and won't display the 3D view at all on QVGA devices... its a known issue that they have fixed in this version. Annoying as the DVD did not have this version on it and I ran into the problem and was annoyed until I went to their site and found the issue fixed.
apologies for the noob question, ive searched but cant seem to find the answer so ill keep it quick and simple :
what do i need to have sat nav on my charmer i.e. hardware ? software ? subscription ?
help much appreciated
You'll need software like Tomtom with a reciever. I'm not sure if the charmer is capable of a wired reciever but for sure a bt reciever will work.
Hi,
Try to find out if your provider offers an online-service like t-mobile navigate in Germany.
I do not need certain software (costs €€€, needs to be upgraded, needs a card inserted) but I have to pay 2 € per route (all over Europe) plus GPRS-charges.
Bluetooth GPS Mouse with Sirf III is highly recommended. I have a Leadtek GPS mouse (sold as Blue Kit) and this is working fine.
CU - Anna
i have the bundled copliot package from tmob, you can buy it yourself with the BT gps reciever for approx £180 from http://www.clove.co.uk/products/products.asp?strAreaNo=400_5_4&intElement=25224
in the UK
or tomtom with BT gps reciever for approx £150 from http://www.pdamods.com/products.asp?cat=104
personally i prefer the accuracy of the CP maps (supplied by navteq) to the pretty bells and whistles of TT
for pocket gps advice, visit www.pocketgpsworld.com they do a speed camera database as well, so you know where the accident blackspots are :wink:
Here a list of questions/answers:
1. You DEFINITELY have to find an appropriate GPS receiver. BT does not work sometimes properly because of the "Microsoft-BT-Stack" installed on the MDAc II which means "I send sometimes and sometimes not" Be careful when choosing the right device.
2. How often do you need advice for routing? Twice a month? 5 times a day? (2/mths=online, 5/day=card)
3. If you prefer a card (GPB 150!!!) be aware of updating costs. You have to buy new cards for countries outside yours... And: Every year???
4. To find the right SW test reports on the Internet are very helpful. But be aware of the slow processor of our device - colourful 3-D-maps will slow down the system dramatically.
5. There is also a service called "TMC" - Traffic Message channel - which is provided by the radio stations. This means that you are able to avoid traffic jams. Your device should be able to receive this, it will be more interesting for inbuild radio/navigation-systems ... I have not done much recherche on this - but my first choice was the online service - might be they will be able to update routes in this manner.
6. - off topic: Here in Hamburg we have a street where the one-way-direction is changed twice a day - as I remember: at 4 pm outwards until 6 am (?) and vice versa. As I was told this is the only street in D where this happens - I will try that soon and report.
Have a nice evening
Anna
P.S.: Hi jonajuna - nice to see you again
regards traffic updates, forgot to say that alk europe (copilot people) do 2 years free subscription to traffic master live with their complete packages (bt gps and software/maps on sd card).
i have never had connection probs with the CP supplied BTGPS3 reciever AS LONG as you remember to switch on the reciever before enabling BT on your mdac2 (once youve run through pairing the devices within the CP UI
i also succesfully use memorymap with the CP reciever for satnav when on foot in the hills which did take a bit of fiddling to set up the BT to go through a virtual serial port, but once done, equally as reliable)
hi back at you anna
edit: oops my bad, i just read that the 2 years traffic subs are only for those that get CP6 bundled with a new Tmob ppc or smartfone
In Australia I've been sucessfulling using Destinator software ware with a GlobalSat BT338 GPS reciever on the imate JAM/XDA Mini.
Connected up fine, along with a Jabra BT headset at the same time.
Also in Australia using Tom Tom 5.21 and Holux GR 232 with no problems.
TomTom is the roxs, I know,but hard to find illegit version to test b4 i buy.
I will try Iguidance, but not sure if North America is supported or works on MDA.
Igo, Navigon, Route 66 are all European.
GPS business in the USA looks like TomTom is the only option but again i dont wanna buy it b4 i test it. If anyone can give me opinions to how it well or poorly it works, that would be awesome!!
ALSO i will be using it with a 16channel Bluetooth GPS reciever.
hopefully the above coverd all the q's if you have any for me let me know.. ALSO i did all the searching and finding. Majority of hits were European, that's y i made the post silly!
Brit,
PS, if you have Tomtom 5.00 PLS if you can email me the software, my BF has all the USA maps, but his software is 5.21 and they wont read on 5.00 and his passcode is already used up for 5.21 upgrade
Also the MDA is a PPC or WM5? This GPS thing is getting really confusing for me. Some say PPC is not wm5 and other say ppc is wm5.
Will Iguidance work on my Mda???? it's compatible with ppc's!
Sorry for sounding so dumb but stuff like sthis ticks me off.
I'm using Iguidance 3.0 and bluetooth gps (don't buy expensive gps because it doesn't make much difference, mine is only $59).And setup is very easy with mda. I hope this helps.
I use iGuidance with NA maps on the MDA and it works just fine. I didn't much care for TomTom at all. I understand iGuidance's speech is slow because of some interaction with ActiveSync but I also understand that it's being worked on and it doesn't really take away from the functionality at all. I use it with a Holux GPSlim 236 via bluetooth without any problems.
Sweeet.. I guess ill pull the trigger on Iguidance then.. I bought a cheap bluetooth receiver from fleabay.. it's not brand name or anything, but it was an impulse buy @ any rate.. we'll see how it goes.
Iguidance looks like the Honda/Acura Navigation rite. From the top not Angled like Tomtom?
Alos has Day and Night feature?
Brit
Re: Which GPS software Works Well with USDM MDA and in the U
IMHO, Mapopolis ( http://www.mapopolis.com ) may serve your purpose better. The map is more up-to-date than TomTom's, and you can try it for free for a couple of days. However, Mapopolis does lack some good features of TomTom, like 3-D view.
Bigshoguns said:
Also the MDA is a PPC or WM5? This GPS thing is getting really confusing for me. Some say PPC is not wm5 and other say ppc is wm5.
Will Iguidance work on my Mda???? it's compatible with ppc's!
Sorry for sounding so dumb but stuff like sthis ticks me off.
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PPC Is pocket pc wm5 is the operating system
i got tom tom and Iguidance working! both look good!
i just have to wait and test it with the gps reciever that i bought. but I may just go out and purchase tomtom b/c many recommend it..
Im using I-go with the american states maps. I like it alot. You can "find" a "test copy" :roll: of it on the web with very little searching along with all the north american maps.
I like that it has overhead view, 3d view, night mode, instant re-routing if you miss a turn, voice commands with different voice packs, a ton of usa points of interest and lots of other features. The maps are more current then tomtom also.
YG-PM!
YG-PM!
Guess what.. I got my gps receiver today. YAY!!!!!!
this is what i did:
1. Turn Bluetooth ON
2. put the gps in pairing mode
3. Click on new partnership
4. It find teh gps and give it "xyz-gps"
5. I give the gps outgiong port "com 6"
@ this point the gps in bt setting has a big yellow circle with a question mark next to it.
so i go to Iguidance and tomtom 5 none of them will detect the gps reciever. SOO frustrated rite now. bout to throw Wizard and gps out the window!!! not really but u can imagine my frustration.
I wil try to use the Search function, but if anyone can help me out that would be AWESOME!!
Let me knwo if im doing something incorrectly... most likely i am! :shock:
Brittany S. :?:
NVM, I got Iguidance to work, but tomtom5 is still being a pain
Hello,
I'm running a stock 8525 (ROM v1.34.502.1) with several hacks (works great). I just purchased a Qstarz BT-Q818 and it worked out of the box with Google Maps and even Microsoft Streets and Trips 2006. Neither of these products are fully-capable GPS navigational products.
I've seen questions and comments about TomTom 6, upgrades from 5, work with WM6, etc, - but I'm curious if anyone can share their experiences installing and using TomTom 6 on Windows Mobile 5. I plan to use US maps, but I don't know if the selected country's maps makes a difference to the reliability, ease-of-use, or installation experience. I don't plan to migrate to WM6 for a bit (until I have a real good reason).
Thanks in advance for your opinions!
Well, I can't help you with Tom Tom on WM05 with this phone.
I had my phone for all of 1 phone call, text message and MMS before I went to WM-6.
That said, I've got Tom Tom 6 with the latest (US and Canada) maps on it, and it works great. Mind you, it isn't as fast (overall) as the dedicated Tom Tom units are, but it gets the job done. In fact on the new LVSW it is pretty close to being at the same speed as a GO300. I'm using it with a Visiontac VGPS-700 bluetooth antenna.
Also, I've got a Motorola MPx and used Tom Tom extensively on that. It is running windows mobile 2003 (IIRC). Obviously its way slower than the 8525, but it worked just fine and got me where I needed to go.
The hardest part of the install on either unit is to get Tom Tom to "see" the bluetooth GPS. And, actually on the MPx it is way easier than on the 8525 with WM06.
I know, I know... you wanted experiance with WM05... but thought that this would help at least a bit.
Thank you, this is helpful. If it turns out I'm the last person on the planet still running WM5, then I'll have to upgrade. Basically, my ROM was ok out of the box and I applied my hacks and apps without any trouble, so I haven't considered an upgrade given the stability vs risk + stability considerations.
I run TT6 on WM5 and I love it. I have had zero stability issues and it works great with my HOLUX 236 BT GPS. I also can receive/send email, calls, internet all while it is running in the background with little to no issues. Once and a while, when I am updating traffic (BOSTON,NYC AREA) performance can be a little slow if I'm multitasking. Other than that, it's flawless for me!
Ditto on the good reports - have run tomtom6 for many 10-15 hour drives, never had any issues. The phone integration features of TT6 are handy - being able to call a POI (eg, pizza shop) from TT6 is sometimes useful. Switches seamlessly between calls and the nav screen without dramas. Handles loss of GPS signal or a slightly incorrect map fine.
Er, you may very well be the last person with WM5 , I've got WM6 as well
@ Guy... lol, except for the guy before you who is running it on WM05.
Oh, I forgot to mention, On my Mpx, I could take two calls with Tom Tom running in the background before the phone would lock up and I'd have to soft reset.
With the 8525, I've had a couple of days where I was on the phone, and forgot Tom Tom was running and it ran from the time I went to work until I left... a 10-12 hour day making calls sending sms and mms, some internet searches etc...never locked the phone up.
I ran TT6 on the stock Vodafone UK WM5 ROM and it was ok but every now and then it would lock up and I would have to end the app and start it up again.
I upgraded to WM6 for one reason SPEED, I don't know about your WM5 ROM but mine was slow. I got so fed up of waiting for 2 seconds after I pressed the red button for a call to end. It did my t*ts in.
Anyway, running TT6 on WM6 has been a superior experience so far as it has not locked up once (on Black 2.0/2.5). Only small gripe is that when a call comes in while using TT the HERMES does not return to the TT screen until the call is finished (you can manually switch back to TT).
One thing to watch out for is the Black 2.5 ROM which updates your HERMES device code and therefore requires TT re-activating. Because of this I have reverted to Black 2.0 (which I find better on battery consumption incidently).
HTH.
TT6 on Std UK T-Mob WM5 ROM
I found that TT6 runs OK but I had to turn off the plotting (on screen) of all the POIs to get it to run smoothly. Some people seem to have reported issues with the rate of data access from their MicroSD cards so it's worth getting a good card (NB - lots of issues reported with Sandisk cards). I run TT6, my phone and CamerAware (which warns about cameras better than TT6). I have had the odd lock-up but in the main all works very well and I am able to count on TT6 with my Vario II. BTW - I use the Holux GPSlim240 which is very nice.
I have even got Windows Live Search running at the same time with a GPS plotted position and mapping/Sat view running from a 3G connection - all very impressive to mates if of little in-car use whilst driving!
Regards
Guy_Incognito said:
Er, you may very well be the last person with WM5 , I've got WM6 as well
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I just installed wm6 and i try and run the start app that installs tomtom and it doesnt do anything im using xplore 1.1!
Anyone has tried using a bluetooth GPS thingie with the Herald and any apps like Destinator or TomTom?
If yes what was your opinion?
My main questions are on:
What app you used and with which GPS hardware?
Battery consumption
CPU/Mem usage and how well the app run
^_^ tnx a million.
Im interested in this as well. Does anyone use any GPS software for their Wing?
I use TomTom 6 and Route66 with a Holux GPSlim236...
The battery consumption depends on the time I use it... Long usage time means more battery drain.
The CPU/Mem usage I'm not sure, but the apps run ok without visible delay between the real position and the position indicated by the program.
EDIT: Forgot to tell onde thing... In TomTom6, the more POI's you select the bigger is the delay between the real position and the one indicated by the program.
I'm using iGO My Way 2006 with this GPS mouse and I'm very satisfied with it.
Have used the software so far in Germany in Netherlands and it didnt fail me at all.
Speed is great on my XDA terra (and before on my XDA neo) which is important,
because some navigation software are running slow on those 200MHz devices.
It's important because on shorter roads and lots of corners the display scrolls
way to slow while you are actually already in the corner.
The voice commands are usually exact and in time just not the display.
Right now I'm testing Navigon MobileNavigator. The map looks nicer, but it is slower than iGO. Can't tell much about TomTom, Route66 and Destinator.
Haven't got my hands on them yet.
I'm using a Holux M1000 GPS Bluetooth Receiver with Destinator 6 and Destinator 7.
Destinator 7 freezes sometimes, but I think it's related to the "Stand by" configuration. With Destinator 6 it works fine.
Regards,
Rodolpho
Well, I'm not yet on WM6, but TOMTOM6 works great with my herald, with a lot of POI, without any delays, and i use a MTK chipset's bluetooth GPS receiver.
I am told that WM6 is faster than WM5 for softwares such as tomtom, so...
Wing/WM6/TomTom6 here. After the pagepool hack (6MB), and after removing most of the stuff from the startup folder (my5aves in particular), TomTom works just fine, not a problem.
Battery life is satisfactory, much better than Axim x30 for sure. You might have to shut down huuuuuge programs like PocketIE manually, before starting TomTom.
Ask some specific questions, please. I'm too lazy to write a complete review this time
I have a WM6 Wing with a Holux 1000 BT GPS. I can't seem to get Tomtom 6 to work on it. The program just can't find the receiver. iGuidance 4 works fine even though it is a bit sluggish. Can anyone help me? I think I've tried two different types of BT GPS receivers and still no luck.
I am running TT6 on WM6 Herald.
TT6 is not that smooth as on my previous Qtek 9000...although I am overclocking to 247 and running on 8MB PP. Maybe its caused by my 4GB MicroSD card I dont know!
Also I have a few "bugs" on my TT, voice instructions sometimes do not match the visual commands and the daylight/night colors function is reversed.
Have reinstalled TT on a fresh WM6 installation with the same results...
Will see now if there is a difference between version 6.01 and 6.03...
And yes I have paid for my TT6 !
HTC4350 here with Holux GPSlim 236
Working with MapFactor Navigator 6, GPS Utilities and Oziexplorer just fine
Also tried GPS Tuner but it won't start because it needs more free memory, though i haven't yet tried the pagepool change.
Other than that, works perfect
cfds said:
I am running TT6 on WM6 Herald.
TT6 is not that smooth as on my previous Qtek 9000...although I am overclocking to 247 and running on 8MB PP.
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Try 6MB PP. No glitches at all, as long as I exit Internet Explorer first. And of course removing everything but btdwake, CapNotify, poutlook and WiFiInit from Windows/Startup. I think I'll remove poutlook, too and see if that stops ActiveSync from starting all by itself all the time.
Also I have a few "bugs" on my TT, voice instructions sometimes do not match the visual commands and the daylight/night colors function is reversed.
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None of that here, using 6.030 (8320).
I am using TT6 with WM6 without any problems! And it runs fast!
My BT GPS receiver is a cheap Sirf3.
moullas said:
HTC4350 here with Holux GPSlim 236
Working with MapFactor Navigator 6, GPS Utilities and Oziexplorer just fine
Also tried GPS Tuner but it won't start because it needs more free memory, though i haven't yet tried the pagepool change.
Other than that, works perfect
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Using TT6 (6.0.3.0 8320) with a TomTom BT GPS and it works great, never had to configure the GPS, TT always find it. But I can't get OziExplorer working with the TT GPS.
Thanks
Hello all,
I own a tmobile wing..
and am also planning to use gps on it..and plan to buy the holus m1000 as well since many of you already use it.. but when looking up prices on tomtom6.. it's usually around 150.00-250.00
can you guys please tell me of a site where you found it relatively cheap.. ?