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USB Host Capabilites

I read that engadget was able to get USB hosting working on the universal, however it appears that this is not possible (reading the threads here). I just wanted to confirm that using a 'usb dongle' to connect other devices to the universal does not work - as I thought that wm5 did support this. Is it just a question of drivers or is the hardward not capable?

Just to remind that topic...
I'm really interested is it possible to connect a portable harddrive to my MDA Pro?

i dun think so its true. If anybody proves this to be true, then please let us know.

noname_nick: have you found the engadget article?
V

@Vijay555,
It was a Q&A article they posted when they had just received the Universal. Should be there in their archives i guess.
Cheers.

I just checked with an sd card reader and a 40gig usb hdd....it didn't detect either :-(
don't think the universal supports usb hosting :-(
hope its just a software handicap and not a hardware one!
San

universaldoc said:
@Vijay555,
It was a Q&A article they posted when they had just received the Universal. Should be there in their archives i guess.
Cheers.
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yeah I even posted in that engadget article asking to reconfirm their findings and thry did reply saying it could be used as a usb host as they had it dine themseves (it was one of the factors that made me get the universal) alas the dumbfuc*ers removed the ABILITY for usb host or maybe engadget was Forced to say yes(as in LIED) under pressure from htc etc??
just my 2 cents !

If I'm not mistaken, the hardware in the Universal supports USB Host. But it is not implemented in the software running on the Universal... It's like having a sound-card in your computer, but with no drivers to use it. Maybe there will be a patch or update for WM5 which supports USB Host.

Suspect that you need a USB host cable to have any chance of testing USB host functionality, this cable tells the PDA that it now needs to work in host mode.
The Sharp Zaurus has a similar arrangement where a single USB port can work in host or slave mode, which is switched using the relevant cable, link to such a cable http://www.streamlinecpus.com/store/product.php?productid=100&cat=0&page=1&featured
Suggest you search Zaurus forum (www.oesf.org) for more information.
Mike

does anyone has this cable and test it already?
It seems it will fit the mini USB port for the Universal?

Don't think it's native on the Universal - if it was, it ain't now. In the meantime, Softick Card Export II PC version 2.10 works great as USB Host services to the Storage Card!

Yes, I use the same thing on my Uni. I like it very much as i do not need a SD card reader anymore. But I still dream to be able to hook up my external slim HDD to my Uni.

Yes, I use the same thing on my Uni. I like it very much as i do not need a SD card reader anymore. But I still dream to be able to hook up my external slim HDD to my Uni.

vijay555 said:
noname_nick: have you found the engadget article?
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Here is the article http://www.engadget.com/2005/09/02/...l-questions-weve-got-htc-universal/1#comments

I found driver for Toshiba E740 USB mass storage driver ( for PPC 2002) but maybe is a best way to find solution for Universal - it's look that only soft for this funcionality is missing :?: Deje PocketPC Page

usb host.....
USB standard provide 5 volt DC.
All HTC device have got 3,7v DC battery!! so it is not possible to power any kind of USB device!!.
The only way consist in voltage duplicator that should provide 5v using 3,7 v source, i think that HTC device has not this voltage regulator.
wishes
Antonio

fraant said:
USB standard provide 5 volt DC.
All HTC device have got 3,7v DC battery!! so it is not possible to power any kind of USB device!!.
The only way consist in voltage duplicator that should provide 5v using 3,7 v source, i think that HTC device has not this voltage regulator.
wishes
Antonio
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the universal have the hw to have usb host functions but htc don't have put it to the out side world.
The mini-usb can't be used as initiator.
in thoery you could open the universal and hook another miniusb connector on the usb bus.... and then the drivers nightmare
Deje have drivers for mass-storage on ppc2003/ppc2 and they work fine.
I use both on casio-e200 and on the toshibare800.
btw:neither casio nor toshiba have 5v bateries and they work with external usb devices like keyboards mices etc, for disks i have to use external power...
bye

[MDAcompact,Magician] USB connection to external WEBCAM, possible?

Ciao, I am Valerio.
Perhaps you can help me, I have a Magician , and I would like to connect an USB webcam to the Magician without the PC, just 1 XDA Magician and 1 extern USB webcamera.
I did not find anything on the net.
DO you think that it is possible?
Thanks in advance!
Valerio

NOone can solve it?
I am not an so expert like you xda expert, but someone could solve the problem.
I read in this forum somone reach to connect an external USB HHD to the Magician. Then I suppose that it should be possible to connect a webcam. But how? None of you are able to solve the "Rebus"?
I thought that you are "expert"
Please solve it!

if you can cook a WM6 ROM for my Magician, As a return favour, I will solve ur USB problem

It simply cannot be done.
Initially I thought you wanted to use the camera on the Magician as a webcam as you have it connected to a computer ... that can probably be done.
But you can't connect an external device to the USB port on the Magician and expect it to be able to control it. The driver doesn't exist. Not to mention, the PDA also won't be able to power the webcam through the USB port.
You have better luck if you find a BT webcam and connect it via BT instead. Still, I am not sure what the point is ... you already have a camera on the phone you can take short video clip with. If you want to do live streaming video the phone doesn't even support EDGE (only GPRS) so the data rate will never support it.

siddharta said:
I am not an so expert like you xda expert, but someone could solve the problem.
I read in this forum somone reach to connect an external USB HHD to the Magician. Then I suppose that it should be possible to connect a webcam. But how? None of you are able to solve the "Rebus"?
I thought that you are "expert"
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Whos the "you", you are refering to? you seems to be talking to air. And, get your proof right, you can't connect a Magician to an external USB Hdd.
Oh, I'm the newbie, I can't float on air, but you the export, so must be able to float on air. I've read somewhere that people can float on water, so you must be able to float on air.

Please guys, relax a little.
The magician (as most HTC phones) do not support the USB host function. Also the USB connector is only USB client.
You can use the built-in cam for messenger on your PC though.
Or as survelliance camera is you have wifi ;O)
Lx Cam
Cheers

getting relaxed
Dear member of the group.
I read on the forum in a past post that someone connected a Magician to an HDD.
It was a replay to a post about WM2005 on Magician. Someone said that he was not able to install it but it reaches to connect an external HDD.
Anyway, answering to your posts, I would like to advise that about powering the external devices it is possible in my case because I could manifacture an ad-hoc usb cable with external power supply for the magician and the webcam.
It is "only" a driver problem or it is an hardware problem that an USB client miss some component that makes it not possible operating as host.
If It is a driver problem, perhaps some "gurus" could help us.
I tell you that I would many new very attractive feature if it would be possible.
Thanks in advance for your help.

siddharta said:
I read on the forum in a past post that someone connected a Magician to an HDD.
It was a replay to a post about WM2005 on Magician. Someone said that he was not able to install it but it reaches to connect an external HDD.
Anyway, answering to your posts, I would like to advise that about powering the external devices it is possible in my case because I could manifacture an ad-hoc usb cable with external power supply for the magician and the webcam.
It is "only" a driver problem or it is an hardware problem that an USB client miss some component that makes it not possible operating as host.
If It is a driver problem, perhaps some "gurus" could help us.
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<rant>
I'm not quite understand about the Hdd part of your post. However, I presume you meant that this guy is not able to use the Ext-Hdd even though he has already connected to the phone, right? That's quite surprise to be that the 'connection' didn't burn off his phone. You can connect everything to anything, and the reason device designers make millions types of sockets and plugs, it to avoid users from pluggin something that arent' suppose to do so. e.g., you can modify a wire and plug your USB and plug it into a 240V AC wall out-let (DO NOT try this at home, just an example) and attempt to charge the phone from 0 to 100 in less than a minute?
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Anyway, for your question, it is a hardware problem. You'll need a host controller for any device to able to host any USB stuff. Google for it.

It can be done...
...altough not as a really usable webcam, Coolcamera can display on the pc what the CMOS is looking.

Cmq ho visto appena dopo postato ke 6 italiano, quindi te lo dico in italiano e pure piu dettagliato!! Come ho detto sopra, hai da provare Coolcamera.. Non soltanto x la funzione "webcam" (ke alla fine è una finestra sul desktop praticamente inutilizzabile, xo è figo xk puoi anke visualizzare quello ke stai facendo sul palmare!!) ma anke xk migliora drasticamente qll k potresti fare con la fotocamera.. Io ormai non la uso piu, xk x qualke motivo mi vengono fuori le bande di colori come se ne avesse solo 256 a disposizione, ma mi accontento lo stesso... ^^

Could someone test the video out cable from the raphael?

Hi,
could somenone please try the video out cable from the HTC Touch Pro?
What happens when you insert the cable?
Thanks in advance!
I'm waiting for my touch HD, should arrive end of the week!
Bye!

+1 on this request! Even if it doesn't work out of the box i bet we could figure out how to make it work by extracting the functionality out of diamond rom.....

It has been tested on Winmo.nl
The result:
Nothing happens.
Besides that, HTC has already said the used hardware is _not_ capable of providing a TV-Out signal. It will not happen for the HD.
Onderop de Touch HD zit zoals je boven hebt kunnen zien de standaard HTC ExtUSB aansluiting. Deze poort is voor het opladen van het toestel en voor de verbinding met een PC (USB). Helaas ondersteunt de HD geen TV-out. Als je de HTC AC T110 TV-out kabel op het toestel aansluit gebeurt er … niets.
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Or, which might be easier to read for anyone not Dutch around here:
As you can see above, at the bottom of the Touch HD is the standard HTC ExtUSB-connector. This port is used for charging the device and connecting it to a PC (USB). Unfortunately, the HD does not support TV-Out. When plugging the HTC AC T110 TV-Out cable in to the device... nothing happens.
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something is always missing to get the perfect HTC!

They will never make the perfect device, its not in their intrests to do so.
It will always be missing this or that or on a different model.
i would like someone to crack open a Touch Pro and see if there is a diferent chip, i think there will be, i doubt it will intigrated in to the main chipset which is why HTC dont advertise these phones as having TV out.

anyone else think it could of also been the software missing so thats why it didnt work. vga out aint a matter or just a cable. it involves software to turn on the output etc..

Pawel062 said:
anyone else think it could of also been the software missing so thats why it didnt work. vga out aint a matter or just a cable. it involves software to turn on the output etc..
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I tend to agree here....could be a software issue...we've seen htc do these things in the past...same chipset, crippled feature for no good reason!!!
this was the #1 feature that i was looking for in the HD

I did not know that Raphael has TV out ! .... and not in HD
I agree, there will be no perfect HTC ...

No TV-Out, no big problem. Put a Media Receiver (I use Pinnacle Showcenter 250HD) on your christmas wish list (from 175$). It enables you to bring all media content from devices that can join a WLAN to your TV, in HD quality. Ok, maybe its not the quick fix to present media content from your phone outside of your home, but it covers you at home.

I have the cable and the HD, and yes nothing happend
It works with the HTC Touch Pro so maybe with the the touch Pro software it will work too in the HD.
someone has the software?

Trinity was released without neither the GPS being operational, nor mentioned in the manuals. I even bought a BT GPS external receiver! Yet it has been my best navigation assistant over almost 3 years.
So you can not take for granted anything in the HTC world.....
And yes, I ordered one of those Tv-out cables for the Raphael, tried on my HD and nothing happened.

Synchronize problem – Cable

So, I’ve a trinity and when I plug the cable, the computer don’t detect the HTC, I’ve windows Vista but I’ve tried on XP too.
The HTC charges but isn’t detected by the computer :s
Thanks
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Tenho um trinity e quanto ligo o cabo, o computador não detecta o HTC, tenho o windows Vista mas tentei no XP também.
O HTC carrega mas não é detectado pelo computador :s
Obrigado

Do you have Windows Mobile Device Centre, for Vista, or ActiveSync, for XP installed?

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Do you have Windows Mobile Device Centre, for Vista, or ActiveSync, for XP installed?
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Yes, and updated

Try disabling fast data synchronization on your HTC Phone.
Clear the checkbox on Settings-> Connections -> USB To PC
Are you using the mini usb default cable (that came with your phone)? Some cables do not lead power correctly, just in case.

pjvieira said:
Try disabling fast data synchronization on your HTC Phone.
Clear the checkbox on Settings-> Connections -> USB To PC
Are you using the mini usb default cable (that came with your phone)? Some cables do not lead power correctly, just in case.
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I don't find that, the only option there is "Enable advanced network funcionality" :s
I think that is the original one, but I am not sure. The phone charges, could the problem be the cable?
Sorry for my English

Your english is just perfect.
Sorry about that, i use WM6.5, so the name must be mistaken... you are right, that's the functionality i was talking about... sometimes, it makes impossible to connect to ActiveSync...
A friend of mine got the same problem with Touch HD... it charges, but no ActiveSync... just changed the cable, and it was fine... Just to make sure it wasn't the same problem.
Could you also check mini usb plug on your phone? I also got a bent pin that made it impossible to update Roms... But it would charge also... you should have 5 metal pins separated from each other about 1/2 mm...

LOL the problem was the cable, it's working now!!!
I just have changed the cable!
Thank you all!

Topway TS7

I'm looking for info on hu based on this board. It seems pretty rare although I know of at least 4 "manufacturers" that use it. I'm just starting this thread to be a place holder for any knowledge or questions about it.
Personally I'd love a pinout diagram and any help getting both the USB ports to work at the same time.

I have the same issue on my 9" "Android 10" ( Oreo ) Ts7 Topway Head unit, Currently I have a touch screen issue not working in any way ( either a .bin file gone missing or a dead touch screen ) Although it was working well before something changed. Currently I can only operate it with a corded mouse and cannot get the USB posts 1 & 2 to work at the same time, to use a keyboard or test playing off a USB, or loading repair files via the 2nd USB port. When I change the port in one way or another I lose use of the initial port. I has actually browsing to see If I can use a USB hub to expand use of the one port I have access on to fix my problems, when I saw your post. Vendor has not been very useful and slow to react and in a different time zone. Have you had any luck with your unit ?

The USB of TS7 is single-channel and does not support two USB ports to work at the same time

localos said:
The USB of TS7 is single-channel and does not support two USB ports to work at the same time
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谢谢本地人，
不幸的是，我无法翻译您提供的图片。 能否请您用文字说明您在屏幕截图中的意思。 我现在接受一次只能使用一个 USB 端口，谢谢。

Copy of a similar head unit pinout but it is obviously not the TS7 you are asking for.

Thanks for the clarification @localos. It has two physical ports and comes with two USB cables, so you'd think....!
Thanks also Chucie for the pdf. You are right, it's not the same as the TS7, but is very similar so maybe will help us figure it out.

JethroNull said:
Thanks for the clarification @localos. It has two physical ports and comes with two USB cables, so you'd think....!
Thanks also Chucie for the pdf. You are right, it's not the same as the TS7, but is very similar so maybe will help us figure it out.
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I sent you photos of mine wired up by a local audio shop to your thread on your local DIYmobileaudio forum you asked the same question on. The mic works fine so copy mine.

localos said:
The USB of TS7 is single-channel and does not support two USB ports to work at the same time
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Localos, are you able to help me with my Touchscreen not working. I'm getting close to ripping the whole Android system out and going back to factory crap.

Chucie said:
I sent you photos of mine wired up by a local audio shop to your thread on your local DIYmobileaudio forum you asked the same question on. The mic works fine so copy mine.
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Yeah, thanks again, that's a huge relief for me

Chucie's pic. For future reference.

Boa tarde,
Alguem me pode ajudar?
Tenho o topway TS7 mas nao consigo entrar no modo desenvolvedor. Alguem sabe o codigo de desbloqueio? Nao tenho o manual de instruções nem o contacto do fornecedor.
Obrigado

How to conacting ts7 pc

Ahmad933 said:
How to conacting ts7 pc
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first firmwaare pac files required. am just started work on ts7 pcb to flash but i didnt find te firmware i have 1 pac which i work

Hi there. I have the TS7 based head unit SP-7069. It Is 1 GB RAM / 16 GB FLASH. No SD card...Two USB (single link) - no buttons - no external MIC support (I have external MIC, connected instead of the internal one) and...one BAD thing - FM radio WITHOUT RDS support in the system/radio app. Problems are: only one USB working at one time - and if you have a front camera and DAB+ receiver (which I started to use due to RDS/station names etc) , only one of them is working and kill each other. You are not able to connect some USB flash with music or the phone through USB - no other USB ports.
I tried to use USB HUB, but that looks that there is no support for USB HUB in the kernel/fw implemented. (sometimes it found FLASH USB, which was connected to the HUB, but the second FLASH USB or mouse,DAB+ etc, was not recognized ((twice yes)), and the system almost every time stop working until the USB HUB was unplugged.
Does somebody know what to do for USB HUB working? Or some RDS radio app, which is working?
I have FW version:V12.1.1_20210329.133820_TW11 and if i try to use Check for update of the system, it closes the update app only...and nothing happened!
I tried to "check for updates" in the advanced menu, and it find "Current version: com.tw.carchoose_3f18_00_200408"...."Updated version: com.tw.carchoose_3f18_00_210928" and after some second it say "Download completed is being updated"....and do nothing. If I try to use the check for an update...it says the same...current 200808 and updated ver 210928....nothing changed.
Does somebody have the same radio head unit? It is not bad, but RadioApp without RDS and bad USB support is horrible. =o/.

Pauloverissimo76 said:
Boa tarde,
Alguem me pode ajudar?
Tenho o topway TS7 mas nao consigo entrar no modo desenvolvedor. Alguem sabe o codigo de desbloqueio? Nao tenho o manual de instruções nem o contacto do fornecedor.
Obrigado
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Hi. Mostly Topway TS7 (my is SP-7069) uses 8888 for advance setup and 7890 for service setup. Sadly nobody knows the factory code for normal factory advance config... the seller told me that he does not know it too =o/

JethroNull said:
Chucie's pic. For future reference. View attachment 5413095
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Hi. And what about the internal mic? Did you disconnect him somehow? I disconnected it and soldered the terminals to the JACK connector instead. It is working perfectly.
And sorry for the question: which FM receiver chip do you have inside your TS7? My SP-7069 has some "four in one" without RDS and I never found which type is inside that "four in one" exactly. The board inside is TOPWAY TS7-A120LP2B-V4.
If I try to check it by the system setting - there is one value: "radio: TEF..." - and nothing more... the font is too big to see the whole value it..that's mean that there is a possibility that it is: TEF6624/21 or TEF6657, TEF6686 or TEF685x - that type I am able to choose from the list, System version is V12.1.1_20210329.133820_TW11.

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Why does it come with 2 usb if only one works at a time I’m so lost

gordy1987 said:
Why does it come with 2 usb if only one works at a time I’m so lost
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the second one is for pc-connecting