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MS Voice Command when unit is closed?

Hi all, I am new to this forum.
I own a Dopod 900, and currently trying to get MS Voice Command to work properly with my unit. I believe one of the problem with this application is that it does not respond to command while the unit is in closed mode (the pda screen in inside). Is solution to this problem already available?
I have searched the forum but have not been able to find any solution. I apologize if I missed it, please kindly point me to that posting if there is any.
Any advise is greatly appreciated.
- Josh :?:

From what I've read so far there isn't a fix I'm afraid. It's not fully compatible with WM2005 and will just have to wait for an update from Microsoft :-(

Thanks for your reply. That's too bad. I really have high hope that there is a solution for just this one problem, as there are already tweaks for the other problems. Being unable to receive command in closed mode really make MS Voice Command very much less usable. Too bad.
- Josh

I agree, but at least it's a step up with the other voice dial (that comes it with?). Couldn't do dialling from BT headset at all on WM2003 :-(

The "closed mode" doesn't bother me as I carry the Exec round in a Krusell case, with screen up. This allows me to instantly answer the phone when it rings (having seen who's calling first on the screen).
But there are a few more annoying problems with MS Voice Command 1.5 (I have UK version) present under Windows Mobile 5.0.
This one is unique to WM5.0:
- The first is when I try to call up a certain contact by "Show John Smith", it would show John Smith's contact under WM2003/03SE, but under WM5.0 it just shows blank screen on the Summary tab. This is still a proper contact, if you go to Notes tab, you see proper notes for this contact. You can press Edit and it will be edited... BUT, meanwhile if you just open Contact app, the ones you open are working great.
GBugger...
The following coupla' niggles are also present under WM2003/03SE.
- The days of week when answering "What date is it today" (somehow UK regional settings don't even have it, so I had to enable it in registry under NLS settings) -- all are announced correctly except Wednesday & Thursday, which are sounding simply as "Wed" and "Thu" instead of proper name.
- The signal strength for 1,2,3 and 4 "units" is announced as 30, 60, 90 and 100% correspondingly, instead of 25,50,75,100 which would seem more logical here. I don't know though if it's just caused by something real or an attempt to easily convert
That said, the application is enormously useful especially with the Krusell case, because the carrying shape for Exec in this case is PDA shape with screen up; but it's protected by screen cover of the case and you can't really write on the screen without opening the case -- so voice activation of programs and then controlling them by 5-way navigation control, is really a great way of using the Exec Examples of these programs are the eWallet (ever forgotten your PIN numbers or clothes size?) and speaking date/time, very convenient when you can't look down there.
Hopefully Microsoft corrects these small errors - the WM5.0 devices are the future.

EastExpert said:
Hopefully Microsoft corrects these small errors - the WM5.0 devices are the future.
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Really, MS should have had this wrapped up ages ago. So disappointed. I want a device like the Exec, but with Voice Command fully working and A2DP sorted, and it's a shame I still can't get all this.
I was so used to the VC software on my JAM, shame the Exec is giving problems.
And I'm tired of tangling my headphones up...
MS, sort all this out already.

EastExpert said:
The first is when I try to call up a certain contact by "Show John Smith", it would show John Smith's contact under WM2003/03SE, but under WM5.0 it just shows blank screen on the Summary tab. This is still a proper contact, if you go to Notes tab, you see proper notes for this contact. You can press Edit and it will be edited... BUT, meanwhile if you just open Contact app, the ones you open are working great.
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Copy the outres.96.dll into the windows folder and the contact will display correctly.

I'm sorry, but no, it doesn't work for me. Same effect as without outres.96.dll. And yes, I made a soft reset after copying it to the windows dir.
So the next question now is: how to remove the file again?
If I try to delete it, Resco Explorer says "Cannot delete file 'outres.96.dll'. The process cannot access the file because another process has locked a portion of the file."
If the file is useless, then I want to remove it from the device. But it has been blocked by another process.
Thanx in advance
tomestos

I had the same problem but saw the answer on a forum somewhere. After you have installed the dll and do a soft reset as it reboots for a short period it does a security check on the new dll and asks whether you really want to install it, if you answer yes then you will find the blank contacts screen problem is fixed. If you take your eyes off the screen at the end of the soft reset you will miss this security question a it defaults to No after a few seconds. Hope this helps.

I had the same problem but saw the answer on a forum somewhere. After you have installed the dll and do a soft reset as it reboots for a short period it does a security check on the new dll and asks whether you really want to install it, if you answer yes then you will find the blank contacts screen problem is fixed. If you take your eyes off the screen at the end of the soft reset you will miss this security question a it defaults to No after a few seconds. Hope this helps.

guc925 said:
I had the same problem but saw the answer on a forum somewhere. After you have installed the dll and do a soft reset as it reboots for a short period it does a security check on the new dll and asks whether you really want to install it, if you answer yes then you will find the blank contacts screen problem is fixed. If you take your eyes off the screen at the end of the soft reset you will miss this security question a it defaults to No after a few seconds. Hope this helps.
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I have answered 'yes' to the security check. Nevertheless the dll doesn't work for me. So I want to remove it now, but I can't because it's blocked by some process.
Thanx in advance
tomestos

I've copied the file gnassel suggested into my Windows directory (using the explorer on my desktop pc).... rebooted the exec.. and voila.. it's working like a charm now.. My voice command shows the contact when I say : "Lookup XXXX" or when i call someone, it confirms the person and shows his information just fine. Norte I am usin the u.s. version of voice command 1.5.
Thanks gnassel !

This is a reply to my own posting above.
I did the soft reset using an application called 'psShutXP' (maybe someone knows it; one use it in order to switch off or soft reset the device). Voice Command's contacts mask doesn't worked.
A few minutes ago I soft resetted the device using the "original" reset hole. And voila: Voice Command works as expected!
So there seems to be a difference between "soft reset" using psShutXP and soft reset using the reset hole.
Sorry for the confusion. THE FILE OUTRES.96.DLL WORKS!
By the way: What exactly does outres.96.dll?
Best regards
tomestos

Many thanks gnassel, it works great..

The file was from OzVGA

Thanks for drawing attention to it and posting it, or I wouldnt have know..
Take a thanking damnit

Guys, where do I put the outres.96 dll file again? If I am using File Explorer there is a "WINDOWS" Folder from the very root with a lot of files. Is that the folder I am suposed to put the oures.96 dll file or just leave it outside in the main root?

cktlcmd said:
Is that the folder I am suposed to put the oures.96 dll file?
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yes
c:\windows\
;-)

gnassel said:
cktlcmd said:
Is that the folder I am suposed to put the oures.96 dll file?
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c:\windows\
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It's "\windows" not "C:\windows".
Best regards
tomestos

Thanks everyone. I thought for a while I have to plug it in my computer too.

Is there any software which can do this?

Basically I am looking for some software which, on receipt of an SMS will initiate an outbound call to a number in the contact list on the phone.
something along the lines of :-
SMS received from 1-555-5555 containing the word CALLBACK and a password.
Phone then dials 1-555-4444 or any specific contact as defined in its config
it doesn't have to use the contact list but must be triggerable remotely.
Target device is a HTC Hermes. and possibly a StarTrk
The program doesn't need to be stealthy, it's to initiate the call with full permission from the owner but without intervention.
Partly it's for my grandfather, if I give him a Startrk then I want to be able to activate a call remotely if I get notified that he has triggered his medicalert system, so I can try to see if he is ok without him having to answer a call.
I googled, and found nothing, I'm hoping someone here can either write an app that can do what I need, or suggest a product that will enable me to do this.
Auto answer is too generic, I want it to be just for myself and not all callers, and the password is because there may be times I just want to send a generic SMS

Sounds like you are talking about an SMS Callback trigger, though I have never heard of a mobile based one.

I always seem to want the impossible or the unwritten maybe it's time one was written?

Crash Override said:
I always seem to want the impossible or the unwritten maybe it's time one was written?
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just unwritten, it's not impossible
pretty easy actually
i'll try to throw some together this week if/when I have the time

try this
Just place it on the phone and edit the config.ini if needed default settings are:
trigger = CALLBACK
password = pass
I tested this on my TyTn2, and it seems to do what you wanted, the program will activate the speaker when calling (can be changed in the config.ini)
this way if your grandfather cannot reach the phone he still be able to talk..
But test it before use, I'm not sure how sensitive the mic of the phone is.
I do like the idea so I'll probably add some more functionality
- auto pickup on call from fixed number
- status
- call/sms log
Let me know what you think.
PS. this was created for a touch screen device not a smart phone...
also I can not be held responsible for damages, phone bills etc.
but that goes without saying ..right
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tested by sending an SMS to myself, the program then called my number, but when i tried with a friends phone it didn't work
let me know if it works for you (if you have 2 phones)
also make sure if the number you send it from is in your phonebook or not (could be the issue)
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that is the issue, working on it
Issue solved
now I need to figure out how to replace the attachment
I'll add it in a new post

I also believe SKSchema can do this in watch mode. Actually SKSchema can do lots of cool things in watch mode.

new version attached
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build a cab, also added apptodate support

is it just me or does it seem to autodial the number that sent the SMS?
one addition would be the facility to set the option that if number X sent the SMS then callback to number Y
example - if I am in the US I will have the number 1-555-1234 but my grandfather is in the UK - +44-555-5555
I run a voip line with a UK DID number such as +44-555-6666 so when the SMS is received from 1-555-1234 the return call goes to the +44-555-6666 instead of the US Cellphone (cost reasons lol, UK landline free, international call of any length = US national debt)

Here is a SMS Trigger I built, do not know if that satisfy you.
Check rk-SMSSwitch under my signature.

Crash Override said:
is it just me or does it seem to autodial the number that sent the SMS?
one addition would be the facility to set the option that if number X sent the SMS then callback to number Y
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yes you are right, don't know how i could have overlooked that
I'll fix this in the next version
any other requests?
:-D
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Program updated, you should be able to run apptodate to get the new version
don't you love just that program

Mr_Gee said:
any other requests?
:-D
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Program updated, you should be able to run apptodate to get the new version
don't you love just that program
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Will there be a Smartphone version of this app that I could run on my QTek 8500 (StrTrk) ?
Thanks

timwb said:
Will there be a Smartphone version of this app that I could run on my QTek 8500 (StrTrk) ?
Thanks
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Sorry, i just noticed this reply
To be honest i wasn't planning on creating one, but i could give it a shot
the biggest problem is i don't have a Smartphone to test it on..

I'm sure you could probably find a few testers in the forums, there's quite a lot of people on here!
I'll obviously be willing to test anything you are able to come up with. I don't know where you are located mr gee but on ebay UK you can buy an old Orange spv c500 (HTC Typhoon)or c600 (HTC Tornado I think) really cheap now. There are also WM6 roms available for these devices on this site somewhere.

timwb said:
I'm sure you could probably find a few testers in the forums, there's quite a lot of people on here!
I'll obviously be willing to test anything you are able to come up with. I don't know where you are located mr gee but on ebay UK you can buy an old Orange spv c500 (HTC Typhoon)or c600 (HTC Tornado I think) really cheap now. There are also WM6 roms available for these devices on this site somewhere.
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I already checked eBay, and there might be some good ones but I don't want to overpay
I'll keep it in mind
Attached is the same program but compiled for a smartphone, I'm not sure if it will work, I remembered I have an emulator for smartphone installed, but I received an error message when running the exe.., I think because the CF.NET wasn't installed..
let me know

I tried it on my QTek 8500. The exe ran but all I got was a window with a blue background and the words "SMS2Call v. 0.03" in black.
No buttons to press or anything, had to use Task Manager to exit it. Which id did without complaint. Thanks for trying, some work may be needed I think

timwb said:
I tried it on my QTek 8500. The exe ran but all I got was a window with a blue background and the words "SMS2Call v. 0.03" in black.
No buttons to press or anything, had to use Task Manager to exit it. Which id did without complaint. Thanks for trying, some work may be needed I think
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Currently that is the program
Could you try to edit the ini file?
in case you have 2 phones, add the number from the 2nd phone in the file
save and run the program
send an sms from the 2nd phone with the passcode mentioned in the ini file
your 1st phone should call this number after the SMS receipt
I know the program doesn't look like much but i might fix this in the future
when i do i'll also look at the exit button.
the reason i didn't was because the application was for an older person,
this person could be playing around with the phone accidentally closing the program ...

I looked in the .ini file and then tried sending a text to the phone containing the words CALLBACK PASS. I tried this with/without a space, up and lower case, with the program in the background or on screen but it didn't do anything. Do I have to put a shortcut in the Startup folder or something? Or am I not formatting the text message properly? The sending phone number is in the contacts list if that makes a difference.
Any ideas?
Thanks

Could you just not set his phone to auto answer ? - that way you can call him any time.

timwb said:
I looked in the .ini file and then tried sending a text to the phone containing the words CALLBACK PASS. I tried this with/without a space, up and lower case, with the program in the background or on screen but it didn't do anything. Do I have to put a shortcut in the Startup folder or something? Or am I not formatting the text message properly? The sending phone number is in the contacts list if that makes a difference.
Any ideas?
Thanks
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not really, assuming it works maybe it has to do with the formatting,
Callback should be in capitals and pass in lower letters.
when I tested this with my TYTN2 it worked the way it should.
also did you enter the default number ? e.g. the number that will be called?
PauloJ5 said:
Could you just not set his phone to auto answer ? - that way you can call him any time.
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Gee why didn't I think of that...
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Seriously have you read the thread?
the topic starter didn't want it this way for several reasons...

Default number and closed flip
I didn't enter a default number because I want it to respond to any number that sends the text. I deleted the DefaultNumber line from the config and it worked, to a point. The phone I'm running it on is a Qtek 8500/HTC StrTrk, which for those who don't know, is a flip phone. My problem is this, if the phone is closed when the text is received the call is made but cut off immediately because the phone is set to hang up calls on closing. Nowhere can I find a setting to stop this from happening, anybody have any ideas?

X1 after restart always on 'Ring' only!

Hello everyone!
Since always I found that on my X1i (generic_uk 3AA) the Ring and Vibrate changes back to just 'ring' after a restart.
Is there any way to make this Ring and Vibrate "permanent" even after a restart? I looked into the Registry but did not find a proper value to mess around with ....
I had now 6 or 7 of those X1s and this last one is 09W23(!) and still does that.
Help is appreciated

What is this... nobody has the same problem and/or nobody knows a registry 'trick' or other means to solve that either?

michaelthemage said:
What is this... nobody has the same problem and/or nobody knows a registry 'trick' or other means to solve that either?
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(having that many phones wouldnt matter it would be a software bug if anything)
Just checked mine - after a restart it is still set to vibrate and ring
BUT i am running Vodafone UK - i actually prefered it to generic but since i am using a different rom i cant say properly although they are very similar - see what someone with the same firmware says.
Dont know how to fix though sorry

Hey, thanks for answering. I have voice command installed and a photo contact program that includes ring selections. Even though I don't use those, one never knows if these interfere somwhow.
But there should be some here who know a registry setting and/or have the same problem and solved it somehow.
In any case.... waiting for now....

michaelthemage said:
Hey, thanks for answering. I have voice command installed and a photo contact program that includes ring selections. Even though I don't use those, one never knows if these interfere somewhow.
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I bet they do interfer.

Mark message read when first opened, not delayed

I tried searching but couldn't find anything to solve my problem, maybe I was searching for the wrong thing but here's my dilemma.
I have a brand new Sprint TP2.
When I read a text message on the messages tab in Manila, neither the little number in the scroll bar or icon in the notifications bar goes away (marking it as read) unless I leave it on the message for an extended period of time. Does anyone know a registry key I can edit to shorten this time, or another work around.
Thanks!

I noticed the exact same thing... really annoying when the text messages are short and you can read it in a split second... seems to have some sort of a time limit before the notification goes away...
there has to be a registry file that can be edited to make the time go to 0...

Yep, does my head in too!
There HAS to be a way to reduce or remove this...
Anyone?

Yes I've noticed this too.. It's very annoying.
What you'll also notice is if you are texting someone with the WM6 interface and keep the contact's text window open, it never marks new texts as unread. So when you go back you'll have all these new texts.
However if you use HTC's interface you don't have this problem but the HTC's interface doesn't work very well and it's not very dominant.

markyochoa said:
Yes I've noticed this too.. It's very annoying.
What you'll also notice is if you are texting someone with the WM6 interface and keep the contact's text window open, it never marks new texts as unread. So when you go back you'll have all these new texts.
However if you use HTC's interface you don't have this problem but the HTC's interface doesn't work very well and it's not very dominant.
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YES! I couldn't pinpoint what the problem was, but that is ANOTHER issue I'd like to fix.

See this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=560100
Copy the dll to your windows directory and reboot and all will be well.

expediter said:
See this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=560100
Copy the dll to your windows directory and reboot and all will be well.
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Why didnt you just link the file too? lol
This works great. Thanks to Yay for this
Just unzip and copy to your windows folder overwriting your existing copy
as always BACKUP YOUR DATA and dont blame me for anything you do to your phone
View attachment htmlnote.zip

"Speak" caller id

Hi All,
First question from me. I have just moved to the TD2 from nokia n95. On the N95 you could set it so that is would say the callers id when they rang. So, I had a short ring tone that would play, then it would say the name and cycle.
Does any body know if it is possible (or how to do it) on the TD2.
thanks for your help and ideas.
cheers

Use Voice Command...START-SETTINGS-PERSONAL-VOICE COMMAND
if it is installed on your device.

thanks jdwilson,
it is not installed on my device - do you know how I would get it?

Search on this forum or Google.

Well, I have got it installed and working for everything but the caller id (despite all the things ticked and setting the bits from other threads). If anybody has any great ideas they will be welcomed, but I will play.
It certainly allows a gap in the tone, but the phone is silent, then the tone starts up again, so I think it is trying to do it.

Use this:
http://www.htc.com/www/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=249&cat=0&dl_id=673

But can it be used on other ROM versions?
I was never clear what, exactly, this update did - and since HTC said it could only be applied to a ROM version that pre-dated mine (and 6.5) I never found out!
If this 'fixes' any issue for Caller ID is it applicable to WM6.5???

thank fighter for the suggestion, but my rom version is not suitable

Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=561303

thanks again fighter, my caller id displays fine it is just not annouced.

When you open Voice Command, and select the phone option, on the right side of the screen, is a notification button, select that, then you will have 3 options for the announcement, make sure you select the one you want.

Yes, I have tried all of the options in notification, thanks. I will keep digging.

NetCallerID does not work in all countries and has no audio, but as an alternatieve;
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-netcallerid.html

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Yes, I have tried all of the options in notification, thanks. I will keep digging.
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Hi What is the version on MSVC? hope you installed in RAM itsef and not in storage. try uninstall and install again - soft reset.. after that in VC notifactions choose second or third option .. it should work

Hope this will help
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Well, I have got it installed and working for everything but the caller id (despite all the things ticked and setting the bits from other threads). If anybody has any great ideas they will be welcomed, but I will play.
It certainly allows a gap in the tone, but the phone is silent, then the tone starts up again, so I think it is trying to do it.
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Take a look here, I hope it will solve your problems http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619358
You can also download the cab file from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5485644&postcount=44
I never tried the cab but it should work.

Thanks for the help.
my version is 1.60.4622.0
I have tried most of the settings in the first link (and some others in another thread).
The control cab generates errors (I have installed mortscript)
I was wondering if the system was not putting the ttscallerid.wav in the volatile, so I am trying to search the the phone for the file, I have not found it yet - using activesync and explorer.
Still digging, but the other features are quite good.