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the remote desktop client on my vario ii connects to my work desktop perfectly using our office vpn but it is rubbish! the screen doesn't scale well at all or provide any kind of zoom out function.
I have a vnc client which performs much better but it won't connect over the vpn it only works when connected directly to the office network.
forwarding ports is out of the question. so my question is this.
is there a vnc client for pocket pc which will work over vpn or is there a way to make the remote desktop client less rubbish
also are there any apps out there that will let me browse my work network over the vpn. resco doesn't seem to be able to do it even the ftp client won't work.
am I missing something about vpn connections as it seems the only two apps that work over one are activesync and the remote desktop client.
Did you tried to acces domain controler throught the VPN? If yes it is normal that it doesn't work; Domain controler require security enhancement in auth that pocket devices cannot deliver yet. The only way I know is to reduce the security enhancement by using the GPO on the concerned servers; but this is far of being a clean fix.
Just trying to use connect to a vnc server on my workstation. btw our domain controller is the exchange server and active sync works fine
Active sync & exchange do not use the integrate authentification & kerberos; it uses a plain text auth (crypted with the SSL certs), that's why it works. Even if you are on the LAN you will not be able to access your domain's controller shares because of security enhancement.
This is far from solving your issue; but I just wanted to make it clear. Concerning your issue I can't help you at the moment, I still didnt tried the VPN & advanced networking.
btw, good luck
I have set up a vpn on my home computer, no domain, and can't access shares or a vnc server on that either.
Hi Stemill, I seen your other post about the vpn issues with Resco also, I have heard in the past about vpn issues using the [email protected], are you using [email protected] or [email protected]?
I use the terminal/remote client on a daily basis, and it does blow, vj on the board here has made an app that allows fullscreen with the terminal client, and theres a Mocha remote desktop client that supports scaling but no fullscreen, both of which have their own quirks. The scaling makes the text impossible to read when its even at 25%
I have been working on connecting to the remote desktop on mac with vnc, and I've gotten as far as an error on authentification, so I know its possible outside of a home network, but I don't have a clue about buisness situations..exchange or vpn's.
I not even 100% positive about the wap issue, I just seem to remember reading something about it in the past.
Sorry I wasn't of much help, also I kind of have a question for you, I see you mention activesync, you're not activesyncing over an internet connection are you?, I'm working on installing apps that I don't have a .cab for over an internet connection, but the best route I had figured out was to install to a ftp share and then grab the .cab from there with Resco.
Best of luck to you.
Hi there.
I'm on t-mob in the uk. They have a 3g network with full internet access so i'm not using wap at all.
Thanks for the tips about the remote client tweaks. Do you have a link?
I'm using activesync to connect to my works exchange server to sync email and calendar. Pretty sure its not possible to sync over the air to a pc without using exchange. You certainly won't be able to grab remote files via activesync.
If we could figure out how to get apps to work over vpn you could set one up on your pc and (theoretically at least) browse its contents using resco without having to bother with ftp.
If it's not possible to get stuff working over the vpn then you've probably found the best solution already. use ftp or setup a webserver on your pc and host the cab files on that. pocket ie seems to let you install cab files directly from a link.
btw which vnc client are you using on your phone?
Hi, I forget a lot of the time that people here have so many different carriers, sorry.
Here's the link to vj's terminal addon app
http://www.vijay555.com/?Releases:VJFullscreenTSC
And here's the link to the Mocha remote client app
http://www.mochasoft.dk/rd.htm
I used .Net vnc when I was able to get the authentification error
http://www.freewareppc.com/docs/netvncviewer.shtml
I think my problem on the authentification was with the apple remote desktop itself, I read about somethin in the authentification being non standard and sometimes the free vnc viewers don't work..but that was also pc to pc related, the same makers of the Mocha remote desktop also make a vnc client..that was gonna be my next try, I just haven't gotten there yet.
I inistally set up my pc to be able to remote to it from my phone and access aol chatrooms..well mainly one I have hung out in for years, then realized if I set up a server, I could install apps that I couldn't find in .cab form over the net with it, I used to have windows server 2003 set up with IIS(webserver) and the streaming media services, I'm wondering now if the windows streaming media really works with the pocket windows media, and if I could even use it with my gprs/edge connection, I'm still waiting on 3G, suprisingly the remote desktop isn't too bad on gprs/edge.
I'm currently waiting to get a new hard drive before I can really get to work, I'm testing on an old messed up xp install, and half the time I can't even access "my computer" or open folders without it crashin explorer.
I have a new AT&T Tilt and I've just installed a WIFI access point on my home/office LAN. My WIFI laptop was simple to configure as member of the Windows WORKGROUP. I've been struggling with my TILT. Some questions:
1) Is this supposed to work?
2) How do you assign the TILT to a workgroup?
3) I can see other workgroup PCs from the TILT, but I cannot see the TILT from other PCs. I am able to ping the TILT from a PC both by ip address and by device name (which happens to be "tilt").
Thanks for any help,
From what I understand you want to be able to browse phone files over wifi?
Yes. On any LAN PC, I would like to click on "My Network Places" and see the WM6-Phone listed with the other WORKGROUP computers. Then I would like to be to click on it to browse its directorys. And also drag & drop files to/from the phone. Thanks.
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Yes. On any LAN PC, I would like to click on "My Network Places" and see the WM6-Phone listed with the other WORKGROUP computers. Then I would like to be to click on it to browse its directorys. And also drag & drop files to/from the phone. Thanks.
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Not sure that's going to work unless you can find some other way of connecting other than by using Activesync
I understand the "Not sure that's going to work..." part. I don't follow the "unless you can find some other way...". I'm not using Activesync (at the moment) I wish to use a WIFI Access Point to join a LAN WorkGroup. I call that "some other way". It would seem that this desire would be widely shared by the wider community of users. It's a logical thing to want to do. There are enough parameters to tweek that given the proper expertise, I would guess that you could connect anything to anything else. I just don't have the expertise so I thought I would pose the question...
As far as i know, windows mobile doesn't include a smb (file) server. You have only a client. This means that you can browse your desktops' shares from the phone but not the contrary.
Windows CE 5.0 and 6.0 actually have a smb server but i think this is not shipped with the Mobile variant.
Unless you find some 3rd party software of course (i don't know of any but i've never really looked for it).
Bye
EDIT: if you want to be able to share files in the PPC with the desktops in the network, you can install a FTP server in your PPC. Then you can use a ftp client on the desktop to browse the PPC.
Try this one: http://www.mochasoft.dk/freeware/ftpd.htm
Nice solution. Thank you.
Seeing LAN shares with Tilt
I have the same goal (to share both ways between Tilt and LAN), but some additional issues.Have had the Tilt for only one day, so forgive me for any dumb questions!.
Can't even see the LAN shares from the tilt (nor the other way around). The phone indicates it is connected to our WiFI, and other LAN PCs can see another's share \\Titan for eg., but when I type //Titan into the Tilt browser it says it can't connect to that. Any suggestions why?
I wondered if its a syntax problem. Seems the Tilt does not have a reverse slash (\), but I would think forward slash (/) should work equally well.
In some circumstances, the phone invites logging into a VPN, but we dont have one established on our LAN. Would this facilitate sharing files? Does setting one up require running a server or is a simple Peer to Peer network sufficient? If so, how do you set one up?
Once I am sure I hve a Wifi connection I will try the ftp client solution.
Any suggestions welcomed.
Thanks
Trekker451
I have been searching for clarity thru islands of info in the forums as well as the net. Any help directing me would be sweet. I am trying to use my T-Mobile Wing HTC WM6 to control a computer on my home network. I have somewhat knowledge of having the server and client. Have read and installed programs. I want to be at McDonalds *or any wifi spot and log in to home computer. When I have a VNC server running it says the network ip address of 192.168.1.101 but I assume thats because its thru my network. I have went to what is my ip address.com and tried that with the port the server allows in the vnc viewer and had no luck. I think I might be too newb for such an advanced concept. I am somewhat computer savvy to alot of technical terms. If anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated. I use messengers if faster communication is necessary. Thanks in advance to any help or thoughts.
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I have been searching for clarity thru islands of info in the forums as well as the net. Any help directing me would be sweet. I am trying to use my T-Mobile Wing HTC WM6 to control a computer on my home network. I have somewhat knowledge of having the server and client. Have read and installed programs. I want to be at McDonalds *or any wifi spot and log in to home computer. When I have a VNC server running it says the network ip address of 192.168.1.101 but I assume thats because its thru my network. I have went to what is my ip address.com and tried that with the port the server allows in the vnc viewer and had no luck. I think I might be too newb for such an advanced concept. I am somewhat computer savvy to alot of technical terms. If anyone could help it would be greatly appreciated. I use messengers if faster communication is necessary. Thanks in advance to any help or thoughts.
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a few thoughts,
1. what version of windows are you running. (e.g Xp Home or vista )
as Vista home basic and premium will not accept a remote desktop connection without a 3rd party hack to make it work only business and ultimate support remote desktop
If on XP home be sure to set allowing of remote desktop sessions to be allowed under the system properties area.
2. do you have a password setup on the user account that you log into windows on if no remote desktop will not allow access.
3. when browsing from a 3rd party network ( e.g mcdonalds or over GPRS/HSDPA ) you browse to your external ip not the dark ip of 192.168.1.x i use dyndns.org so i can just browse to the dynamic domain ip which is my external ip of my home pc
4. since you mentioned a dark ip i can only also assume your using a router at home. this means you either use such as LogmeIn/Hamachi and browse to the home pc's Hamachi IP ( e.g 5.5.100.50 ) or you will have to set a port forward in your router to forward any requests from port 3389 to the local IP of the home pc, ( e.g 192.168.1.100 )
I use static ip's in my router at home to ensire that the port forward will always goto my home pc's internal ip address. My particular router from netgear allows to have the ip of a specific machine be assigned the same ip internally based on it's ethernet adapter MAC address. making no changes required on the pc itself other them standard DHCP.
hope this helps.
1. what version of windows are you running. (e.g Xp Home or vista )
as Vista home basic and premium will not accept a remote desktop connection without a 3rd party hack to make it work only business and ultimate support remote desktop
If on XP home be sure to set allowing of remote desktop sessions to be allowed under the system properties area.
1. I am using Windows XP Home. I have allowed Remote Access under the tab Systems Tab.
2. I only have a pw on the prog VNC server on the pc but no passwords for windows *should I? :| ... Then I try VNC Viewer the the Pocket PC *T-mobile Wing.
3. I am reading up on the dyndns.org site. I assume I need the free dns service for those with dynamic IP addresses. *i hope I have that.
4. I have Linksys Bef11s4... I believe I can set static ip's though its tricky for me. I am going to try for the pc I want to connect to. This networking stuff gets a little bit blurry for me. I understand that static means non-changing, therefore the pc to connect to in network will have same ip on restarts and things. I am familiar with the port forwarding options *do i need tcp and udp checked?... again any thoughts definately appreciated...
lastly, Do you have any particular progs you recommend for me to do this concept? I have a few installed, but not sure i need all.. I have pocketputty on pda and wm6 rdc... plus vncvier. On the PC i have VNC CLient and VNC Server *believe I only need server. Thank you for your time Cyberjak
1. Just go to http://www.logmein.com
2. Sign up. It's free.
3. Screw Remote Desktop and juggling internal vs. external IP addresses and DNS.
4. Use/enjoy...no work needed.
MJB
Logmein has like 6 choices... I am looking to remote access outside my network... also is this free? I see trials and stuff... thanks for help mjb
have the logme in installed on main and when i use pda it doesnt work...i installed cab and log in fine but when i go to remote the pc it takes my access code and then pops up with error message for menuPDA.html... i cleared history and cookies and tried to make sense of the forums... I am using the T-mobile Wing with WM6.... wierd... willing to try the other way if needed... i guess i could also try loggin thru a pc not home to the remote pc... i believe i saying this remote term correctly but i believe u understand. I am trying to use my PDA anywhere to control home pc.... thanks for help guys... i am willing to try whatever way works...
I've used Logmein on my MDA Pro, Ameo and now on my Vario 3.
You should first try to remote your PC while your sitting next to it. That way you can see any firewall pop ups that may be blocking you.
I have been trying when i am right next to it... I am using my WM6 to connect wi-fi to the internet thru my network.... the pc i wanna control is on my network...
It doesn't matter what network the PDA and PC are on. Logmein uses an internet connection.
yeah, tried a bunch of things to get logmein to work, and it always comes to the page of "403 Forbidden (0x5) menuPDA.html System error: Access is denied. (5)"
checked their forrums too...
guessing i should try going back to client/server manual entry... either way, any advice from you guys much appreciated.... It seems WM6 are known for incompatibility issues with RDC situations.... hoping not the case but...thanks again guys
got logmein working nicely, thank you for the help guys...
Gooer Remote Desktop Service
I am using Gooer Remote Desktop Service(http://www.gooer.com) and it let me access my home PC using laptop or mobile phone.
remote desktop only works, as far as I know, on XP pro & Vista
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=357009
Does anybody how i could access my Pocket PC from my PC over the network. I could do it vice versa through Resco but i can't do Pocket PC from PC nor Pocket PC to Pocket PC. Any ideas? I would like it to happen just how the PC does it, with no major add-ons. I don't want to have to deal with VNC, FTP, etc. So if you know, i'd really like to know the answer. Thanks
I was looking for the same thing and haven't been able to find anything.
(I know you said u didn't want to use FTP)
So far the only thing I have been able to find for this is an FTP solution.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351882
I can access the local network from the phone, but apparently there is no SMB server available for Wm6
Why can't you just use the explorer function of ActiveSync?
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Why can't you just use the explorer function of ActiveSync?
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There are multiple reasons for wanting to access your device from the network. I myself am using multiple machines and would like to drag and drop files from my phone without having to get a bluetooth dongle and install active sync on every one of those machines.
If anyone has setup a smb server for wm6 i'd love to know, also if anyone has any other recommendations for a good ftp server that mocha one doesn't run in the background properly and the bottom toolbar for it stays on my today screen.
Not exactly what you're after, but I've seen a web server for WinMo around somewhere...
Or maybe something along the lines of a VNC client?
Yea, there are reasons for the networking thing. I have several devices on the network and i would life to get a NAS device. I don't want to go to the trouble of setting up ftp/vnc. Mapping the device using Resco works GREAT. For some reason, my laptop can't find my Tilt when i search for devices on the network and i was thinking maybe it was because it didn't have the same workgroup name?
useful for sure
Assuming you're on the LAN with WiFi, what happens when you port-scan your device's IP?
Not sure what you mean by port-scan but when i go to file explorer on my laptop and type \\ip of tilt, it gives me some error. I'm really trying to look into this and most advice is using vnc and another program which i don't want.
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Not sure what you mean by port-scan but when i go to file explorer on my laptop and type \\ip of tilt, it gives me some error. I'm really trying to look into this and most advice is using vnc and another program which i don't want.
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I don't think you're understanding when i said wm6 doesn't have a SMB server running.
Basically, it isn't running the microsoft networking services to access the file shares. You wont get it to work unless you get some sort of SMB daemon(server) for the phone, which to my knowledge doesn't exist.
look up SMB in wikipedia and u will understand what im talking about.
If using Resco to map shares, will you be able to play media (music, movies) over the wlan then, or will it not be fast enough?
I'm assuming that mediaplayer in wm6 won't have a problem playing from shares...or am I wrong?
/Pilot1
I kind of got this resolved. Not the way i really wanted it, but now i use Pocket Controller Enterprise and it does this. Really nice features, i could connect to anybody in the world, just need their host name.
Doesn't the desktop version of total commander do this? The only problem is the desktop version isn't free...
...like 'AndFTP' & 'SwiFTP'. Can someone please be so kind as to post tutorial? I am using my computer through a Cordless router. I thought I saw a post here about a similiar app but cannot seem to find it. Thanks.
I just installed SwiFTP. Does anything else need to be installed on the computer? I am already using a FTP program on my Win Vista. I just installed it on the phone and typed in the username and password that I made up, but how to see start seeing the files on the computer? I see the app is running at the top of the black banner.
some cell phone carriers filter port 21 the default port for FTP
so you might not be able to use them
i had to change it to another port
what are you trying to do with the FTP?
you need a FTP client if you want to download stuff
you don't need a FTP server on your phone
Thank you. I would like to access my computer from my phone or/and vise versa. I read somewhere where someone is doing just that. So which FTP client app do I need?
the 2 you mentioned are pretty much the best at the moment
but none of them supports soft ftp which is more friendly with proxy and firewalls setup by the phone carriers
you just need to type in the address of your computer, and the port of your ftp server at home, then you can connect to it
make sure you use a port that is not blocked
Thank you. How do I find the FTP address on my computer? I am on a wireless router.
you need something like no ip or dynDNS
and also setup your router to allow traffic through the port you want
OK, thanks but you mention setting up the router, which is something I cannot do. I had it installed by someone else. You mentioned my computer's IP. Again, I ask, how do I find my computer's IP?
I wish there was a step-by-step somewhere on the net to install and setup this thing.
if you can not configure your router, then it will not work
you can get your ip by using the software from noip and dynDNS as mentioned above