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OK.. so I am new, and excited. I have had alot happen to my trusty old tmobile pocket pc phone over the last two days.
First, I got it unlocked by tmobile two days ago and then switched to ATT. Big big plus for me here where I live as my tmobile service would not work at home, SMS and voicemail notifications were rarely recieved. So far so good with ATT, in fact I get the notifications almost instantly, and I have FULL service with ATT at my home now.
Ok.. then yesterday and today I got interested in the idea of upgrading to the 2003 software. Went ahead and bit the bullet and did it. So far so good. I am now running:
ROM Version: 4.00.21 ENG
ROM Date: 8/11/03
Radio Version: 6.18.00
Protocol Version: 324e4
I have not noticed any real issues yet. I have noticed that it locked up on me once when changing a theme I believe. But I did a soft reset and the change was made, I then changed it to another theme to test and no problem.
I dont seem to have the sliding backlight settings I noticed some where else. But I do think like the signal bar meter better as it is clearer now to the eye when you have even one bar. As well as love the mute, and the dual volume slider.
I thought I read there was a higher version radio stack some where, but I have to find that again.
All in all very happy. Happy with the new ROM and tools and forums made available by XDA-Developers, happy with ATT service and hope to be reporting back more good news in the future.
ok.. figured out the sliding backlight
I guess I got confused and thought the sliding backlight control I saw was related to the 2003 ROM, when in fact I guess it was seen by me on the XDA version 2. So, that clears that up for me.
Now to just get the newest radio stack...
Re: ok.. figured out the sliding backlight
RasnCain said:
I guess I got confused and thought the sliding backlight control I saw was related to the 2003 ROM, when in fact I guess it was seen by me on the XDA version 2. So, that clears that up for me.
Now to just get the newest radio stack...
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No problem on the radio stack, I just need confirmation on what network you're on AT&T or T-Mobile so I'll know which stack to send.
Also I'll need an email address to send to, PM me on that.
BTW good work on the upgrade. :lol:
thank
OK.. radio is now updated to A.20.10 which should be the latest ATT radio version correct ? I have noticed one odd thing about after I upgraded to the ATT radio is that it no longer says what network I am connected to as it did with the tmobile radio.
I also noticed something stange with the 2003 software and GPRS. Seems there is no "end" option to end the GPRS connection.
All in all I am pleasantly surprised about how easy and smooth all has gone in doing all of this. I like the always connected GPRS.
thanks
Yes you are correct A.20.10 is the latest ATT radio stack!
Good obs on noticing that the AT&T stack doesn't show what network you're using, it was also the first thing I noticed too! :wink:
Yea the only way to end GPRS now its to press the Red phone button or buy Spb GPRS Monitor
http://www.softspb.com/products/gprsmonitor/index.html
HTH
Where do i get pocket pc phone 2003?
I have the AT&T Siemens SX 56 phone, and thanks to you guys i unlocked my phone. Now, i can switch to t-mobile service . But, i would also like to upgrade to the new version of the Pocket PC Phone edition 2003. Can i do that yet?????
A reply would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Re: Where do i get pocket pc phone 2003?
paulwhiteside said:
I have the AT&T Siemens SX 56 phone, and thanks to you guys i unlocked my phone. Now, i can switch to t-mobile service . But, i would also like to upgrade to the new version of the Pocket PC Phone edition 2003. Can i do that yet?????
A reply would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
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Congratulations on the unlocking! 8)
As far as upgrading to Pocket PC Phone edition 2003 you can build your own from Jeff's kitchen at:
http://cuba.calyx.nl/~jsummers/ROMkitchen/
or you can download it from Yorch's web site at:
http://www.yorch.net
Note: its located under software.
BTW what radio stack does your SX56 currently have if its less than A.20.10 you'll want to upgrade that too?
HTH
Call siemens customer support for the failed radio stack 1% or other failed error message users
Siemens will fix/flash the xda for free all u pay is for shipping it to them the will flash it and send it back USPS priority mail...
make the call !!! i did , shipped today (no waiting on the return)
Siemens rebuild after pc2003 upgrade 1% failure
I too had the failure. I sent my SX56 to Siemens. they promised 10 working days. it turned into 18 working days. Their reason was they are having a flood of failed sx56 pc2003 upgrades.
I do not know if they are looking into the problem. I would hope they would place better controls for the upgrade if it has known failures. Such as: You must have rom version xx.xx, radio version A.xx.xx etc.
I see others attempting to load via an sd load. I am very much a novice and I do not yet know how all that works.
Russ
currently siems seems to suck... they gave me high hopes too mine was received by them on the 16 od feb and still waiting...
i am not sure if the radio stack can be upgraded by SD card... i beleiv e the only possible soln is SERIAL flashing which needs more than he cable... so we kindof have no other options yet
I saw on the xda site that special rom can be loaded which whould allow me to unlock sim. But I also saw people saying that they could not upgrade to PC2003 which the Special Rom.
I think after you get your Seimens back you may want to hold tight. I am going to wait and see what Cingular offers when the smoke clears.
They may offer a free upgrade and help.
Russ
I think Siemens are being very favourable toward people with failed upgrades, after all it is a FREE upgrade to the latest operating system, they would have been in their rights, having warned about flashing roms being a dangerous process whereby it could render the xda useless, to tell you to pay to rectify the problem. They should be commended on their willingness to help people despite the fact that it will cost them money to do so, so give credit where credit is due please.
I agree, we should not look unfavorably to a free upgrade. It is odd that so many sx56 units are showing up as failed upgrades however.
I suspect there is some issue with the rom update they offered some time ago. Hopefully, they will do further testing and revise the download version.
I will hold off trying again until I have spoken live with them to discuss potential causes.
I will pass along all that I find out.
Russ
cruisin-thru said:
I think Siemens are being very favourable toward people with failed upgrades, after all it is a FREE upgrade to the latest operating system, they would have been in their rights, having warned about flashing roms being a dangerous process whereby it could render the xda useless, to tell you to pay to rectify the problem. They should be commended on their willingness to help people despite the fact that it will cost them money to do so, so give credit where credit is due please.
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Oh sure i am willing to give them credit that is why when i found out they were being so good and offered to fix it for free i came back here and told the rest of the folks... but the issue is ever since they wont give me an update or an ETA is why i say they suck... i am still looking forward to a fixed ph... try call them and they say one more week (every week) i even asked them to send it back without fixing so i can do whatever they said they can initiate it but dont know how long it will take to do that either
that is why the frustration....
update Siemens web site says shipped today...
awaiting to see what they have done on it...
After the phone was returned, then what?
Just curious if anyone who had their XDAs flashed back to PocketPC 2002 at the Siemens service center was able to try the Windows Mobile 2003 upgrade again (and have it successful).
I'd like to try to upgrade to WM2003 again -- anyone have advice for avoiding the radiostack upgrade failure that screwed my unit in the first place? My failure occured when the handset received a phone call just after I started the upgrade process.
Thanks --
Sean
got the ph back yest (overnight though they mailed it usps priority) must day am a happy camper again thanks to siemens
update:
what they did is probabbly replace the radio part of the phone,(ph has a new IMEI # and call timers were at 0) either that or they replaced the mother board and restored to ppc2002 with radio 20.10 (locked to ATT)
i went to 3.17 unlocked it again
upgraded to 2003 rom from lumpi's web site and left the radio there this time. actually getting a better signal strewngth then the new radio stack....
so there is the current status.
Siemens turnaround quote is now 30 days
I just talked to Siemens as they have had my phone for two weeks. It is still in queue to be reflashed. They also told me that they will NOT flash to WM2003 or the new radio stack. I will get it back with PPC2002 and the original AT&T radio stack. They indicated that the upgrade was the users responsibility. They also acknowledged that it may fail again leaving the phone unusable. You get the feeling that both Siemens and AT&T just wish they could forget the SX-56.
BTW, I don't consider the fact that Siemens is doing the reflash at no cost something to brag about. They would not have been in this mess if the upgrade had been more thoroughly tested.
I had planned to have the PPC Tech guys upgrade the Ram and battery in my SX-56, but I wonder if it makes any sense to further invest in this idea of a combo PDA/Phone.
david
They would have been within their rights to have never released an upgrade so how you can fault them for giving a free upgrade is beyond me, by the way I have upgraded several xda's with the wm2003 official flash and had zero problems, its the radio stack that causes all the trouble, if your radio stack isnt broken its best to leave it alone, I was very happy to get a free official wm2003 upgrade. I have a Toshiba e740 and have been told by the makers that an upgrade to wm2003 is not an option but if it was it would cost a fair bit of cash so I have a flash upgradable pocket pc that will forever be stuck on wm2002 unlike xda owners who got it free from Siemens/ATT
Can anyone tell me where they called? My 2003 upgrade failed and my PPC has failed!! I am completely lost without it!!
PS ATT has forgotten the SX56 as they no longer carry it or sell it.
Which has pretty much been the case since the begining. The ONLY support I have ever recieved has been from this site.
Work around the RSU issue to upgrade to WM2003
I used the OSImage tool from this Web site to manually upgrade to WM2003 (after I had to send my SX56 back to Siemens for a re-flash to PPC2002). I didn't upgrade the radio stack -- really just wanted WM2003 so that I could get a mute buttom.
No problems since the upgrade, for what it's worth.
-s
I fix all dead Radio stack failure, no need to wait , same day service!
Re: After the phone was returned, then what?
ts96740 said:
Just curious if anyone who had their XDAs flashed back to PocketPC 2002 at the Siemens service center was able to try the Windows Mobile 2003 upgrade again (and have it successful).
I'd like to try to upgrade to WM2003 again -- anyone have advice for avoiding the radiostack upgrade failure that screwed my unit in the first place? My failure occured when the handset received a phone call just after I started the upgrade process.
Thanks --
Sean
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I have gone from the original AT&T ROM to the Siemens 2003 Update to the XDA 2002 SE back to the original AT&T ROM and so on and so forth...the radio stack on any of them are just down right horrible. ALL OF THEM ARE CRAP. I had to go back to using my PALM TUNGSTEN W in order to make and receive phone calls, the main reason for getting a phone right.
Its just so disappointing. SO SO Disappointing. And no one should blame Microsoft, this isn't a Microsoft issue. I have another PDA/GSM Phone that doesn't fustrate me the way this one does.
Just sickening.
Just thought I would update the group on the issue of how to get the radio stack reinstalled once it decides otherwise (such as during the upgrade using the newest Siemens/ATT&T ROM). I first sent my SX-56 to the PPC Tech guys who thought that they would have a solution in short order, but the problem seems to be a mysterious program that is part of the radio stack and is required BEFORE the stack will upgrade or reinstall. No stack, no program. Microsoft seems to be the sourse of the program and the PPC Tech guys are hoping to get it from MS, but no timeline or promises.
So, we decided to see if AT&T or Siemens would help. AT&T was worthless (as expected), but Siemens stepped right up to the plate and told us to send it in and they would reflash the radio stack for free. They are aware of the problem, so regardless or whether your unit is in or out of warranty, the reflash is on-the-house. You have to call Siemens and get an RMA. They have to process the RMA rather than you doing it, otherwise it will wind up costing you $25 if you unit is over 1 year old, so make the call. Once Siemens returns the reflashed unit (I am having it sent back to PPC Techs, I am having the RAM upgraded along with the newer 1800mAH battery.
hey i figured the same out too.... but unfortunately they are bogged down. mine has been with them for over a week and they say will take another week maybe more
I posted the same one week ago
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=6066&highlight=
update 2weeks plus and still waiting for the to send it back...
No ETA when i call customer service.... sucks
Does anyone know were I can find the lastest radio stack. This is why I ask for ait and see maybe I need somethind else. When I 1st got the MAD II the service was good since then T mobile US has upgraded some sites and now the phone sucks around here. Half the time I have no service. Do you think the phone might be going bad or just need the new Radio stack. My Radio Version is 1.06.01 not for sure if there is anything newer then that. Any help someone can give would be great. One last thing is there a new ROM VER for the XDA II US yet that I might need as well. ROM Ver I have now is 1.60.00WWE
I updated from http://www.my-xda.com/xda2i_soft2.html but didn't get the new radio version, and got the .169 rom version that is supposedly so bad.
Sooooo ummmm......What do you think is going on?
Is anyone else chaseing this, because due to major family problems I just don't have time at the moment! I can't afford to re-flash my Xda again, it can't be out of action!
**Edit - I did this yesterday. They could have fixed it since.
Not you going wrong, O2 have withdrawn the 1.11.170 ROM because of the connection and stability issues mentioned elsewhere on this site.
If you want stability and don't use Blackberry, use the ROM I made that can be found on this site. Have a look in the few recent threads here and you will find them.
Sorry to hear about your problems, hope they're sorted soon for the better.
Take care of yourself,
PUG.
I had got confused. I'll try it after christmas, once things have settled down. I'll just have to put up with no bluetooth for now
Will my warrenty/insurance be valid if I use an unoffical ROM?
Officially yes but there's always way around that.
O2 do state that only ROMs released by themselves are supported but those of us who have customised their 2i's know that most of the problems with the 2i are down to O2's software in the extended ROM causing the problems.
More often than not, most companies like that will not worry about what ROM is on the phone so long as it was released officially by a company for an Alpine device and it's not a cooked WM5 when it's never been released if you know what I mean.
Anyway, good luck and Merry Christmas.
Pug
I must say that after the last rom upgrade (69) was released and I had problems with it, o2 data support actually recomended that I install the rom from this site!! So that should tell us all something, should it not!?!?!?
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Pug is spot on - .169 caused my BT headset to play up no end, but rather than re-flash to the vanilla .162 rom, I used Pug's with the 1.04 radio. This is the best of the available 02 roms, imho. BT fine, and the radio upgrade improves signal strength and clarity - nice one, Pug! BTW I also downgraded Caller ID, which solved my GPRS connection issues, and fitted a bigger battery. I am now happy to use my Alpine as my only phone, which was the plan in the first place...
Merry Xmas all
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Pug is spot on - .169 caused my BT headset to play up no end, but rather than re-flash to the vanilla .162 rom, I used Pug's with the 1.04 radio. This is the best of the available 02 roms, imho. BT fine, and the radio upgrade improves signal strength and clarity - nice one, Pug! BTW I also downgraded Caller ID, which solved my GPRS connection issues, and fitted a bigger battery. I am now happy to use my Alpine as my only phone, which was the plan in the first place...
Merry Xmas all
smcaul said:
I must say that after the last rom upgrade (69) was released and I had problems with it, o2 data support actually recomended that I install the rom from this site!! So that should tell us all something, should it not!?!?!?
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Then they say to people that to do so would invalidate their warranties. I just shout at them and tell them exactly what I want them to do for me, that sorted my last problem, didn't give them chance to read the script that said "hard reset". Wish they'd all sing from the same hymn sheet. Still, you pay peanuts you get monkies don't you.......
I actully got o2data support to send me a copy of 162 rom on a disk as they did not have it on their website, so I can always reflash back to that if I need to send the xda in for repair during it's warrenty. Thinking about it, is it worth me putting this (162) rom on the ftp site so anyone can reflash with it?
Please do, I am about to get a 2i and I plan to experiment as soon as I get it but I would like the .162 ROM to fall back on as it seems to be the most stable official release,
Thanks
Sorry it has taken a couple of days (but it is xmas :lol: :lol: ) but I have put the 1.11.162 official o2 rom on the ftp site (ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Alpine/) I have uplaoded a .rar and the .exe versions hope they may be of some use to you.
tomw86 said:
I updated from http://www.my-xda.com/xda2i_soft2.html but didn't get the new radio version, and got the .169 rom version that is supposedly so bad.
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I updated from this file aswell, and my Radio downgraded(?) to 1.00!
Not only this, but I applied the TomTom 5.21 upgrade at the same time, and TomTom stopped working - well, it started to lose the gps connection when i had the speaker cable for my GPS cradle plugged in and TomTom emitted a sound!
I reinstalled TomTom back to 5.1, and still got the problem, so I hard reset the XDA - same problem still!
I have now installed the .162 ExtRom with 1.04 Radio, and this seems to have solved the problem as far as TomTom is concerned, even with the latest 5.21 update. The real test will be tomorrow when I take her indoors to work in the morning, as so far (due to the snow!) I have only tested TomTom sat stationary outside the house!
Getting back to the point, though, I think I will be giving the .169 ExtRom a miss from now on!
UPDATE : I've finally gotten out and about in the car, and Installing the .162 ExtRom has solved my TTN5 problem