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Hello All,
I am researching purchasing a SPV m1000 for my company to use as a phone and WAP device to check email through our WAP portal. After reading many, many of your postings it sounds like to use GPRS in different countries we will have to change the settings (ie. access points) in each country we visit. Is this correct? Does this become a pain to do? How do you get the settings for each country?
Also I understand that if GPRS is not available you can use WAP using just GSM at 9.6kbps. Do you just dial a number similar to a dial-up to connect to this? How well does it work?
Does GPRS usually work out more cost effictive than data through GSM? Which UK company seems to be the best when using in many different countries?
Thanks for any help,
Daniel
Hello,
The GPRS settings shouldn't change. It depends if your phone provider has roaming agreement worldwide.
I had a french phone provider, Bouyues, who had no agreement, so outside France I was stucked.
Now I am in Switzerland, Swisscom mobile has agreements worldwide and I can get access to WAP without any problem. Of course, it's more expensive... but it works without changing anything.
Could some kind soul please send me the WAP and Internet setting for the Rogers AT&T service in Canada?
Thanks very much,
senmc said:
Could some kind soul please send me the WAP and Internet setting for the Rogers AT&T service in Canada?
Thanks very much,
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Here you go.
internet.com
wapuser1
wap
Good luck.
Do not forget, that you have to subscribe to data services (it will not work with WAP)
thanks
Okay thanks everyone.
I've got the settings as:
Cellular line (GPRS)
Access point name: internet.com
user name: wapuser1
password: wap
domain: (blank)
under advanced: Use server-assigned IP address, software compression off, IP header compression off. Server tab: use server-assigned addresses
Under GPRS settings i have
CHAP authentication (note i also tried PAP without sucess); and class 10 (which shouldn't matter).
Now mys CSD line type settings (not sure how much this matters because I don't know what CSD is):
Data rate: 9600 (v.32)
Connection element: non-transparent
Any other settings that might be configured wrong?
As for having to have a WAP account - my understanding is that all phone accounts are on a pay-per-use basis unless a specific plan is purchased.
Thanks again everyone,
Sean
oh.
I see what you mean now - sorry, I read it wrong the first time. I have to subscribe to a data service plan - the phone will not do WAP on its own. Do you know why that is? The cost on Rogers is very high for a data plan while it is much more reasonable for WAP phones. I really only need the WAP - not the rest of the internet. Is there no way of getting just WAP?
YES, we all now about Rogers prices
I actually switched to Fido, but still maintaining Rogers account for other purposes.
I am not sure about using I-Mate with WAP, but I think by using special WAP browser it should be possible. Sorry cannot be more help for you.
ARRRGGGGHHHHH
I've just spent a ton of time researching whether it was possible to use my XDAII to dial-in to my work. I mean the phone is a modem/phone/computer so it has all the hardware present.... At work there is a RAS that would allow me to pick-up my e-mail and surf the internet. I do it with my laptop connected through a land-line all the time. while connecting over a GSM line would be slower than a GPRS connection it would be a heck-of-a-lot cheaper and it would be more mobile than my laptop and no need for a landline!!! Anyway, turns out that beautiful ROGERS AT&T service does not allow CSD on their system (if anyone knows a way around this please please please share it with me!!). I guess, the idea is to force people to subscribe to their expensive GPRS data plans.
i would love to get all I can out of my XDAII but I'm not sure at this point if I can justify the extra $25 month for 3mb of data with Rogers or the $25 month for the 5mb of data from FIDO... both of these providers are crazy expensive (plus, add the cost of the $6.95/mth access fee I'd be required to pay for FIDO). Now, if I had a normal phone which only did WAP then it would cost me about $7 for 1mb - not a lot of data but a more reasonable rate.
So, that's where I'm at.... if anyone out there knows of a good plan for data usage - or better yet a way to do CSD on Rogers please let me know. Noviur, or anyone, if you know of a WAP browser program that would allow me to use WAP on Rogers please point me in that direction.
Thanks,
Sean
PS. Just a little disappointed that after all the money spent on this beautifull phone I'm now limited in its use so that Rogers can continue to make more money on me besides what they make for my high-speed internet, digital cable and 2 mobile phone plans.
you can not bit 50CAD unlimited from Fido. In states it is the same amount of money, may be jsut little bit less and only from T-Mobile (based on references from my friends )
5Mb will not make you happy, sorry to tell you... my avarage is about 17Mb per month....
If i can help you in anything with solving this - let me know.
Thanks Noviur,
Do you know if FIDO allows CSD? If they do I'd consider switching. How do you find the FIDO reception - I've heard that it can be problematic and they don't have as large a coverage area as Rogers.
Where in Canada are you?
Toronto
me too
in some places Fido even beter than Rogers..., such as Steeles & Leslie
In some places the same s...t, such as Bayview & 16th, or Weldrick between Bayview & Spadina...
Let's put this way - the quality of service is better, the service is almost the same, bu limited to the geographic areas... for example i am stil using my Rogers, when going for a weekend up north...
Downtown is very good receiption...
Tell me if you need me more specific...
BUT do not forget, that is is very difficult to bit 45 unlimited+50 unlimited itnernet...
The quality of service must be better with Fido - Nothing could be worse than Rogers.
I too head up north frequently (just about every weekend) but my phone doesn't get reception up there anyway - Neither Rogers or Fido (now Bell gets perfect reception).
Right now I'm on a $20/mth plan that gives me adequate telephone minutes - I get 150 minutes during the day and unlimited evenings and weekends starting at 7pm... that seems to work for me. Jumping to $95/mth would be a big increase that I'm not sure I could/should pay.
Noviur,
Do you know if FIDO has CSD? If they do then you can dial-in to any ISP or RAS server - while it would be much slower than GPRS it would only use your telephone minutes and you wouldn't have to pay the GPRS fees. For me it would be amazing because then I could collect my e-mails, messages, etc. from my work just like i do with my laptop.
I am not sure about it... I think a raised this question some time ago with CSR because of the KSE Fax soft, and was told that Fido does not support CSD... But the best place to check that would be www.howardchui.com forum....
Hi, I have a jasjar in the UK using the o2 network, i will be going to China in june and would like to use the gprs nextwork there. Could someone tell me what i need to do to set it up? The help desk here keep insisting that my set up should just work, but I've been to China 3 times already and 3 times the gprs network was unavailable to me. What do I need to do?
Thanks
It all depends if O2 has a GPRS roaming agreement with the operator in China. You need to ask O2 this as they may not have GPRS agreements with every operator which they have a voice roaming agreement.
But when you find out what their roaming data charges are I think you'll find it will be far more economic to get a local prepaid SIM if the operator in the region that you are going to has prepaid GPRS. A quick google shows that E-Tong in Shanghai provide this http://home.wangjianshuo.com/archives/20030707_use_gprs_in_shanghai.htm
That's easy. But firstly , would you like to use sim card produced by China?
If you use chinese sim card, the settings are easy.And what's more, it costs only 2$ for a month . Such phone number start with '136.........'.
The roaming will be extremely expensive. So it's better to forget about it.
The best way is buy one local prepaid card. But it's not easy just like saying.
China has two operators, China Mobile and China Unicom. China Unicom doesn't provide the GPRS service but CDMA. So if you want to use GPRS connection, you have to choose China Mobile. And China Mobile has three kinds of branded service, Go-Tone, M-Zone and Shenzhou Xing. The 1st one is only for registered users, so you won't be able to apply it. M-Zone is the prepaid and for sure with GPRS service, the last one may not be able to use GPRS depends on the different region.
But one thing you must pay attention. All prepaid card provided GPRS service is only able to use http connection with proxy. If you just want to browsing the web pages, it should be no problem. But if you want to receive/send email, there is no way.
Settings:
1: Web browsing
APN: CMWAP
Proxy: 10.0.0.172 port:80
2: MMS
APN: CMWAP
Gateway: 10.0.0.172 port:9201
Server address: http://mmsc.monternet.com
Enjoy it.
To use GPRS roaming in China check out http://www.o2.co.uk/business/produc...ices/travelling/using/gprsnets/0,,600,00.html
Seems its only China Mobile. And the charges are (gulp)
http://www.o2.co.uk/business/productsservices/mobileservices/travelling/using/gprs/0,,606,00.html
dahuzi said:
The best way is buy one local prepaid card. But it's not easy just like saying.
China has two operators, China Mobile and China Unicom. China Unicom doesn't provide the GPRS service but CDMA. So if you want to use GPRS connection, you have to choose China Mobile. And China Mobile has three kinds of branded service, Go-Tone, M-Zone and Shenzhou Xing. The 1st one is only for registered users, so you won't be able to apply it. M-Zone is the prepaid and for sure with GPRS service, the last one may not be able to use GPRS depends on the different region.
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Hi dahuzi... thanks for your reply. Is the Go-Tone a contract service with a monthly service charge?...
May I make some amendments to what dahuzi said:
I'm using both Go-zone and M-zone, and both can browse websites and check email. They are 2 types of connection; one is so called cmwap, and one is cmnet. You should use cmnet, which is the normal GPRS connection used worldwide.
The charge is different in different regions. Let's say in Beijing, the charge is RMB 20 (approx. Eur 2.00) for 50Mbs, RMB 100 for 800Mbs.
1: Web browsing
APN: CMWAP
Proxy: 10.0.0.172 port:80
2: MMS
APN: CMWAP
Gateway: 10.0.0.172 port:9201
Server address: http://mmsc.monternet.com
The above settings is for mobile handset only. You will not be able to use for full intenet usage.
If you intend to use your PDA or PC to access the internet using GPRS. You will require cwnet for full interenet access, and this service only available for locals pay monthly account package only. The service is not available for pay as go customer.
Internet on the move for foreign visitors in China may be confine to Starbucks or some WiFi hotspots.
Anyone who knows the China Mobile CEOs please pass this message to them, we are frustrated with their GPRS services unable to give full interent access for us foreigners.
Well, I was in China during my easter holidays and was very happy to find, after getting my bill, that O2 did not charge a penny for GPRS roaming in China with China mobile. Furthermore there is no need for additional settings on Exec so that everything worked fine and, freely. The GPRS roaming was really perfect; there was no need to buy a SIM from Chinese operators.
I am with an O2 data tariff which accounts for 200M data per month (29.8 pounds inc. tax).
I'm however not sure if it is the same case with Orange but I guess, from my past experience with China Mobile (I used the GPRS service since its open day in CM), it is highly possible to be a free roaming. HOWEVER I AM NOT LIABLE TO ANY MIS-GUESSES so please don't accuse me if I was wrong ..
My service provider is Mobilinkgsm in Pakistan. Last week I visited China. My GPRS worked perfectly there in China. I also sent and received MMS messages without any problem.
I was not required to change any settings for either the GPRS access point nor the MMS settings as my connection with MobilinkGSM Pakistan is set to International Roaming. I have an i-mate Jasjar.
GPRS international roaming rates for Mobilinkgsm Pakistan though are quite high. They charge US$ 0.02 per KB which means almost US$ 20.50 for a MB of Upload + Download data.
Just wanted to share my experience.
Regards
I need to setup GPRS on my cell phone, but my phone carrier told me that they dont give support to phones bought on other countries.
Does someone know which are the steps for setting up the GPRS and be able to connect to internet when there is no WiFi??
Thanks
Oscar
Anyone?
Hi,
You have to know your operators acess point.
Then select Start>Settings>Connection>Connections>Add a new modem connection.
And fyll with your providers information.
Where do you live?
Regards
JoseF
I live in Peru, South America, and my operator is CLARO
Please do a search
http://www.taniwha.org.uk/gprs.html
http://www.esato.com/archive/t.php/t-105977
You have to ask you provider for the actuall information.
JoseF
Well I was so happy yesterday. I received my new MWg Atom (great phone BTW) and was all set to set up GPRS. Unfortunately, Afghan Wireless Communications Company does not support this device. They do all of their GPRS setting via OTA SMS. This is a very long shot, but I was wondering if anyone knows what the manual GPRS setting are for AWCC or Roshan in Afghanistan. The Auto Configurator does not have either of these networks. Pakistan is the closest country I could find in the list.
Bobby
sorry dude, all you can find about those networks is to call customer service..
they should help you out with a device wich needs manual settings...
Thanks for the reply, but I've already been down that road. They just hang up when you mention your device is not Nokia, Samsung or Motorola. They insist my phone doesn't support GPRS, but of course it does. Also, I erased all of the settings and got connected, but it is very slow (8Kbps max). I believe I'm connected to their GPRS, but they also have an INTERNET profile which is supposed to be faster.
besjr69 said:
Well I was so happy yesterday. I received my new MWg Atom (great phone BTW) and was all set to set up GPRS. Unfortunately, Afghan Wireless Communications Company does not support this device. They do all of their GPRS setting via OTA SMS. This is a very long shot, but I was wondering if anyone knows what the manual GPRS setting are for AWCC or Roshan in Afghanistan. The Auto Configurator does not have either of these networks. Pakistan is the closest country I could find in the list.
Bobby
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check the following AWCC GPRS settings
hXXp://afghanistanforums.com/index.php/topic,2.0.html
check the following AWCC GPRS settings
hXXp://afghanistanforums.com/index.php/topic,2.0.html
Maihan,
Thanks for the reply. I'd already configured the phone like you described in your post. Actually, I have successfully used three different settings
APN: wap
Username: awcc
Password: 1111
Proxy: 10.100.1.52 (port 80)
*limited to HTTP traffic only. Slow to start, but fast when it recognizes DNS
APN: internet
Username: blank
Password: blank
APN: blank
Username: blank
Password: blank
* both these connections are slow. Speed test show 2.8Kbps MAX
AWCC shows that it connects at EDGE speed, but the connection is much slower than regular GPRS. Seems like it wasn't worth the cash to have the phone. What speeds are you getting? Also, it appears that after 1700hrs, I can't even get a connection. I really wanted to use AWCC to replace the high cost internet service I subscribe to now. I was at least hoping to get at least 56Kbps service out of this.
If you have any other advice please reply. Thanks.
Bobby
AWCC GPRS
Dear Bobby,
Hope you are fine and doing your best,
Thanks for sharing with us your settings,
I have tested these all settings and have checked my speed, the speed of AWCC is very slow, my average speed with all three settings is between 1 -12 kbs.
I don’t think so your phone is bad because sometimes AWCC get hang and the internet doesn’t work for while.
Maihan Nijat
anyone have manual settings for Roshan?
Perhaps you can find it on the GPRS/Internet Connection Settings for the whole world thread
I use AWCC with much success, $20 per month unlimited. I only use it to check email and chat with Palringo, so I dont need much speed. I use my gmai+google voice to send and receive txts from home. Some of my guys use Roshon and have good luck as well. I am in Kandahar with good coverage, and the settings posted above by besjr69 have worked on both networks.
thanks -- good information. I'll be in Herat Provence soon.
I heard talk of 3G last year - any insight from someone on the ground?
AWCC sucks big time. It costs 20 usd per month, unlimited, crappy speed. You can get your emails though and sometimes check Facebook .
1. send message to 999 with text: GPRS
2. wait for 24 hours
3. APN: internet (everything else blank)
ROSHAN
i'm just trying that right now. Other than the APN, i saw that you must activate GPRS by sending message to 167 with text: GPRS on
http://www.afghanistanforums.com/index.php?action=printpage;topic=323.0
hope it helps.
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anyone have manual settings for Roshan?
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Roshan settings are as follow
Name: Roshan
APN: internet
everything else leave default and ensure phone internet service turned on
roshan is... expensive...
There was some news of 3G coming in 2011 to Afghanistan and the government was in talks with the carriers. The carriers are concerned that their investment in infrastructure could be wasted by attacks on towers. I doubt it will happen this year and if it does it will probably just be Kabul.
pyrator said:
roshan is... expensive...
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Depends on how you use it...
I have had a 1,k AFS scratch card loaded on my phone for 3months. still have about 350AFS on it. I use it to call local Roshan #'s mainly and RARE calls stateside after 9pm afghanistan time. I've done maybe 15 sms msgs on it to the USA.
BUT yes GPRS data is stupid $$$
as of 04/07/2011
GPRS Rates: A fee of 0.10 Afs is applicable per 10 KB download in Afghanistan.
So 1 AFS per KB, a 1k AFS card is $23ish USD do the math...
MIGHT be cheaper @ the Bazaar or via online top up but don't think so
fooman123 said:
thanks -- good information. I'll be in Herat Provence soon.
I heard talk of 3G last year - any insight from someone on the ground?
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Just talk, still 2g/GPRS IF your lucky, some guys are saying its not worth bothering out in the field.
YzRacer said:
There was some news of 3G coming in 2011 to Afghanistan and the government was in talks with the carriers. The carriers are concerned that their investment in infrastructure could be wasted by attacks on towers. I doubt it will happen this year and if it does it will probably just be Kabul.
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Thought I read Kabul had it (April `11 time frame) but I'm way down in Kandahar so we are just glad to have service
Cause yes, they used to shut down cell towers at night to keep them from getting attacked.
roshon gprs setting
I use my android with these setting, simple..
access point
Name: Any name u want
APN: internet
Save those in. Your gprs should kick in.
Im in Bagram and it works for me in certain areas.
Majikman said:
I use my android with these setting, simple..
access point
Name: Any name u want
APN: internet
Save those in. Your gprs should kick in.
Im in Bagram and it works for me in certain areas.
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What are the speeds like on Bagram, and how fast do the Roshan cards deplete? I currently have a Roshan Sim in my HTC but didnt even know I could use data!
I wonder if you (or any expert else) can tell me how it is configured on Galaxy S2 phones? I can't find the setting for such GPRS details?