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Only to Chinese Users of XDAII - Please help (GPRS)!

Hi guys,
I have the problem, that I cannot connect with GPRS. It always says that on the other side no modem is installed.
Provider: Shanghai Mobile / China Telecom
SIM: Prepaid (e-tong)
GPRS: "Business package" (inkl. 500 MB traffic)
Should you be using the same provider, I would be grateful for some screenshots (Chinese screenshots would be fine as well). I (and a member of the IT department) have already been calling 1860 several times and they told me that GPRS is already activated for my SIM, so that I should be able to connect. Only the business package will be activated on 05/01/04 but free GPRS should be working. What am I doing wrong? :roll:
For GPRS (no WAP) it is only necessary to make a new connection and enter "cmnet" as accesspoint, right? No proxy, no password and no username, right??
Please help...

May I copy from other site to solove this problem.
You must be set the APN to cmwap and then setup up the proxy sever to 10.0.0.172:80.
Please try it!

Thanks for your help but these are the settings for WAP via GPRS (please don't mind).
Meanwhile I figured out what the problem was: China Mobile did not activate my GPRS service although several agents at the hotline had confirmed that it was already opened.
GPRS (Internet, not WAP) just requires to enter "cmnet" as Access Point (APN) and then it works smoothly...
I've been discussing with China Mobile's hotline for more than 1.5 hours and spoke to five different agents. The horrible thing was, that four of them didn't even know what the difference between GPRS and WAP via GPRS is.
Having worked for a provider myself, I consider that quite astonishing (& frightening). China Mobile is the biggest provider (or at least one of them) worldwide, so that such a bad knowledge gap should really not appear.
For those guys with XDA in China: Shanghai Mobile offers a GPRS package with an included volume of 500MB for 200 RMB (appr. 20 Euro) monthly. You have to buy an eTong SIM card for that, activate the GPRS in any direct service shop of China Mobile and then you can start using your GPRS like hell, national GPRS roaming is supported and also inclusive.
That's a fair price and shows what is possible but not offered by European providers possibly due to margin reasons (they earn a hell of money with their business customers)...

I wish we could get that here, 20 euro for 500mb, :shock:

Good at PRICE, WORST AT service
Good at PRICE, WORST AT service
Thats it, PRICE is the only thing they offered

Certainly, it's only the price but as long as you can help yourself, you are well off...

how about the result of you?

As already pointed out, I figured out, what the problem was (GPRS not activated from provider's site, although hotline confirmed that it was active).
Now GPRS is running perfectly and GPRS WAP is also working fine...

8) Did anyone know the setting of China Mobile M-zone. I using it via cmwap. Also inform CS of China Mobile. But, still cannot active the CMnet.

Maybe GPRS Internet is not active or available for your card.
If your are trying to access the M-Zone WAP via CMNET this will fail as you need the GPRS WAP connection for that. So maybe GPRS is not supported for your SIM or the service is not activated for you (normally you have to apply via a form for it.
Third possibility is wrong setting - maybe you should call China Mobile and ask for the setting of your XDA2 (Chinese Name: Duopuda 696).

please can u attache here the cab file for china moblie GPRS settings for xdaII?

GPRS vs. WAP

T-mobile is offering unlimited GPRS service for $50/month, which is insane since they used to offer it for $20. They do have a plan for blackberries with minutes that doesn't seem too unreasonable, but it is WAP service. Is this worth getting? What is the difference? Thanks.
-Ross

GPRS is way way way better than WAP, faster too. With GPRS speeds are similar to a 56k modem, WAP is something like a 14.4k modem (I think it's 11k but I can't remember). With WAP you pay for the time you spend online, with GPRS you pay for the data you download and can use the phone whilst connected to GPRS. Get GPRS.
Regards,
Neil.

wap = whatever content they have on their network/server
gprs = anything on the internet.
be warned that some scumbag providers call wap gprs. I have been trapped like this about 12 months ago by vodafone. At the time their own network could not support billing full gprs so after some serious complaining over the service I got I ended up with a company called martin doors who was a partner with vodafone (vodafone do have it now though).
Here I pay 2.5c/kb. $50 usd is high but if I used it unlimited it would be way more.

Actually, WAP is the "highway" as it were, with GPRS and GSM being the actual types.
GPRS is pay per KB,
GSM is pay per minute.

If the two offers were unlimited gprs and unlimited wap, is their any other difference besides speed?

I did not know that wap was available via dial up. My only acces to it was through gprs. What I was getting at was the content. With vodafone AU the internet is only available through "full" gprs, ie you could not go to this site through the wap connection.
Anyway gprs/gsm is the same thing just put to different use.

In the Netherlands TMO offers gprs unlimited 'Internet Totaal' (includes wifi hotspot usage & meant for laptops etc) access for €50 per month & they offer 'Pocket Internet Totaal' for only €9.50 per month (unlimited gprs access & hotspot usage meant for pda's). So it's exactly the same thing even on the phone bill, only the pockey version includes a €40 discount. Guess which contract I'm having with about 200MB usage a month ;-)
Complain about it, refer to it. More European countries offer this scheme. Maybe it works.
Good luck, M

"Actually, WAP is the "highway" as it were, with GPRS and GSM being the actual types. "
no GPRS and GSM are the "highway" as in the connection type
over which HTML or WAP is transmittet
WAP is a sad subset of HTML and require ones operator to make links before one can access a wap page unlike normal internet

GPRS in China

Hi, I have a jasjar in the UK using the o2 network, i will be going to China in june and would like to use the gprs nextwork there. Could someone tell me what i need to do to set it up? The help desk here keep insisting that my set up should just work, but I've been to China 3 times already and 3 times the gprs network was unavailable to me. What do I need to do?
Thanks

It all depends if O2 has a GPRS roaming agreement with the operator in China. You need to ask O2 this as they may not have GPRS agreements with every operator which they have a voice roaming agreement.
But when you find out what their roaming data charges are I think you'll find it will be far more economic to get a local prepaid SIM if the operator in the region that you are going to has prepaid GPRS. A quick google shows that E-Tong in Shanghai provide this http://home.wangjianshuo.com/archives/20030707_use_gprs_in_shanghai.htm

That's easy. But firstly , would you like to use sim card produced by China?
If you use chinese sim card, the settings are easy.And what's more, it costs only 2$ for a month . Such phone number start with '136.........'.

The roaming will be extremely expensive. So it's better to forget about it.
The best way is buy one local prepaid card. But it's not easy just like saying.
China has two operators, China Mobile and China Unicom. China Unicom doesn't provide the GPRS service but CDMA. So if you want to use GPRS connection, you have to choose China Mobile. And China Mobile has three kinds of branded service, Go-Tone, M-Zone and Shenzhou Xing. The 1st one is only for registered users, so you won't be able to apply it. M-Zone is the prepaid and for sure with GPRS service, the last one may not be able to use GPRS depends on the different region.
But one thing you must pay attention. All prepaid card provided GPRS service is only able to use http connection with proxy. If you just want to browsing the web pages, it should be no problem. But if you want to receive/send email, there is no way.
Settings:
1: Web browsing
APN: CMWAP
Proxy: 10.0.0.172 port:80
2: MMS
APN: CMWAP
Gateway: 10.0.0.172 port:9201
Server address: http://mmsc.monternet.com
Enjoy it.

To use GPRS roaming in China check out http://www.o2.co.uk/business/produc...ices/travelling/using/gprsnets/0,,600,00.html
Seems its only China Mobile. And the charges are (gulp)
http://www.o2.co.uk/business/productsservices/mobileservices/travelling/using/gprs/0,,606,00.html

dahuzi said:
The best way is buy one local prepaid card. But it's not easy just like saying.
China has two operators, China Mobile and China Unicom. China Unicom doesn't provide the GPRS service but CDMA. So if you want to use GPRS connection, you have to choose China Mobile. And China Mobile has three kinds of branded service, Go-Tone, M-Zone and Shenzhou Xing. The 1st one is only for registered users, so you won't be able to apply it. M-Zone is the prepaid and for sure with GPRS service, the last one may not be able to use GPRS depends on the different region.
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Hi dahuzi... thanks for your reply. Is the Go-Tone a contract service with a monthly service charge?...

May I make some amendments to what dahuzi said:
I'm using both Go-zone and M-zone, and both can browse websites and check email. They are 2 types of connection; one is so called cmwap, and one is cmnet. You should use cmnet, which is the normal GPRS connection used worldwide.
The charge is different in different regions. Let's say in Beijing, the charge is RMB 20 (approx. Eur 2.00) for 50Mbs, RMB 100 for 800Mbs.

1: Web browsing
APN: CMWAP
Proxy: 10.0.0.172 port:80
2: MMS
APN: CMWAP
Gateway: 10.0.0.172 port:9201
Server address: http://mmsc.monternet.com
The above settings is for mobile handset only. You will not be able to use for full intenet usage.
If you intend to use your PDA or PC to access the internet using GPRS. You will require cwnet for full interenet access, and this service only available for locals pay monthly account package only. The service is not available for pay as go customer.
Internet on the move for foreign visitors in China may be confine to Starbucks or some WiFi hotspots.
Anyone who knows the China Mobile CEOs please pass this message to them, we are frustrated with their GPRS services unable to give full interent access for us foreigners.

Well, I was in China during my easter holidays and was very happy to find, after getting my bill, that O2 did not charge a penny for GPRS roaming in China with China mobile. Furthermore there is no need for additional settings on Exec so that everything worked fine and, freely. The GPRS roaming was really perfect; there was no need to buy a SIM from Chinese operators.
I am with an O2 data tariff which accounts for 200M data per month (29.8 pounds inc. tax).
I'm however not sure if it is the same case with Orange but I guess, from my past experience with China Mobile (I used the GPRS service since its open day in CM), it is highly possible to be a free roaming. HOWEVER I AM NOT LIABLE TO ANY MIS-GUESSES so please don't accuse me if I was wrong ..

My service provider is Mobilinkgsm in Pakistan. Last week I visited China. My GPRS worked perfectly there in China. I also sent and received MMS messages without any problem.
I was not required to change any settings for either the GPRS access point nor the MMS settings as my connection with MobilinkGSM Pakistan is set to International Roaming. I have an i-mate Jasjar.
GPRS international roaming rates for Mobilinkgsm Pakistan though are quite high. They charge US$ 0.02 per KB which means almost US$ 20.50 for a MB of Upload + Download data.
Just wanted to share my experience.
Regards

Setting for ATT (I have an ATT 3G SIM Card) on my NEW TyTN

I have just received my new TyTN. I have no idea how to enter the settings for GPRS and / or HSDPA. Can anyone point me in the right direction. i was told because I am on the old ATT Charter Plan, my settings would be a little different than the regular cingular. Thanks in advance

I am assuming you mean Cingular in the US. If that's the case .. please check this thread out ..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282226

Magicman_007 said:
I have just received my new TyTN. I have no idea how to enter the settings for GPRS and / or HSDPA. Can anyone point me in the right direction. i was told because I am on the old ATT Charter Plan, my settings would be a little different than the regular cingular. Thanks in advance
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If you can follow my notes here they are:
MMS Configuration
Retrieve Messages Immediately
Save Sent Messages
Servers
AT-T MMSC
10.250.250.100
9201
http://mymsc.mymmode.com
The Internet
100k
Wap 1.2
My ISP
AT-T Internet
Cellular Line (GPRS)
Proxy
Work Network
AT-T WAP
Proxy
Proxy
This network connects to the internet
This network uses a proxy server
WAP 10.250.250.250 9201
Secure WAP 10.250.250.250 9203

I do not understand this enough to decipher your notes. Would you, or someone else be willing to help me out a bit and explain it, or walk me through it.
Thanks

Ok..I really need help and I hope someone is willing. I do not understand this stuff enough to figure out what the post above was.
I am making calls. Surfing the web, but I can not send Text Messages.
Would someone be kind enough to treat me like the moron I am, and explain what settings I need and where to enter them.
I am still on the ATT network and have not switched over to a cingular plan. I have the old ATT charter plan with unlimited data. Thanks in advance

Magicman_007 said:
Ok..I really need help and I hope someone is willing. I do not understand this stuff enough to figure out what the post above was.
I am making calls. Surfing the web, but I can not send Text Messages.
Would someone be kind enough to treat me like the moron I am, and explain what settings I need and where to enter them.
I am still on the ATT network and have not switched over to a cingular plan. I have the old ATT charter plan with unlimited data. Thanks in advance
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Anytime I have switched to another unlocked GSM phone my TXT messaging always worked by default (someone correct me if I am wrong) but the message desk # is in the SIM Card.
I have the same exact plan as you do and probably the same SIM (blue one)
Does TXT messaging work on other phones?

I called Customer Service and they had accidently turned off the text messaging. Now I can send, but I still can not get pics.
to make matters worse, I can not connect to the Internet. I keep getting a message that says,
"Cannot conect for an unknown reason....."
Before speaking to customer service, I could connect. I had not entered any settings and I could connect.
I tried the above settings and get the same message.
Anyone have any suggestions?

ring them back and tell them they have prob switched you data plan off lol

javaoverride2003 said:
ring them back and tell them they have prob switched you data plan off lol
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Java - Would you believe that is exactly what happened? They "accidentally" turned it off. I had a number of blunders like that with them. I do wonder if it is because I still have the old ATT Charter Plan. I have unlimited phone everything for $99 and unlimited data for $24.99. They keep trying to make me switch, but I am like NO WAY. Stuff like this keeps happening to me. I do wonder if they do on purpose.

GPRS Setting for Afghanistan

Well I was so happy yesterday. I received my new MWg Atom (great phone BTW) and was all set to set up GPRS. Unfortunately, Afghan Wireless Communications Company does not support this device. They do all of their GPRS setting via OTA SMS. This is a very long shot, but I was wondering if anyone knows what the manual GPRS setting are for AWCC or Roshan in Afghanistan. The Auto Configurator does not have either of these networks. Pakistan is the closest country I could find in the list.
Bobby

sorry dude, all you can find about those networks is to call customer service..
they should help you out with a device wich needs manual settings...

Thanks for the reply, but I've already been down that road. They just hang up when you mention your device is not Nokia, Samsung or Motorola. They insist my phone doesn't support GPRS, but of course it does. Also, I erased all of the settings and got connected, but it is very slow (8Kbps max). I believe I'm connected to their GPRS, but they also have an INTERNET profile which is supposed to be faster.

besjr69 said:
Well I was so happy yesterday. I received my new MWg Atom (great phone BTW) and was all set to set up GPRS. Unfortunately, Afghan Wireless Communications Company does not support this device. They do all of their GPRS setting via OTA SMS. This is a very long shot, but I was wondering if anyone knows what the manual GPRS setting are for AWCC or Roshan in Afghanistan. The Auto Configurator does not have either of these networks. Pakistan is the closest country I could find in the list.
Bobby
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check the following AWCC GPRS settings
hXXp://afghanistanforums.com/index.php/topic,2.0.html

check the following AWCC GPRS settings
hXXp://afghanistanforums.com/index.php/topic,2.0.html

Maihan,
Thanks for the reply. I'd already configured the phone like you described in your post. Actually, I have successfully used three different settings
APN: wap
Username: awcc
Password: 1111
Proxy: 10.100.1.52 (port 80)
*limited to HTTP traffic only. Slow to start, but fast when it recognizes DNS
APN: internet
Username: blank
Password: blank
APN: blank
Username: blank
Password: blank
* both these connections are slow. Speed test show 2.8Kbps MAX
AWCC shows that it connects at EDGE speed, but the connection is much slower than regular GPRS. Seems like it wasn't worth the cash to have the phone. What speeds are you getting? Also, it appears that after 1700hrs, I can't even get a connection. I really wanted to use AWCC to replace the high cost internet service I subscribe to now. I was at least hoping to get at least 56Kbps service out of this.
If you have any other advice please reply. Thanks.
Bobby

AWCC GPRS
Dear Bobby,
Hope you are fine and doing your best,
Thanks for sharing with us your settings,
I have tested these all settings and have checked my speed, the speed of AWCC is very slow, my average speed with all three settings is between 1 -12 kbs.
I don’t think so your phone is bad because sometimes AWCC get hang and the internet doesn’t work for while.
Maihan Nijat

anyone have manual settings for Roshan?

Perhaps you can find it on the GPRS/Internet Connection Settings for the whole world thread

I use AWCC with much success, $20 per month unlimited. I only use it to check email and chat with Palringo, so I dont need much speed. I use my gmai+google voice to send and receive txts from home. Some of my guys use Roshon and have good luck as well. I am in Kandahar with good coverage, and the settings posted above by besjr69 have worked on both networks.

thanks -- good information. I'll be in Herat Provence soon.
I heard talk of 3G last year - any insight from someone on the ground?

AWCC sucks big time. It costs 20 usd per month, unlimited, crappy speed. You can get your emails though and sometimes check Facebook .
1. send message to 999 with text: GPRS
2. wait for 24 hours
3. APN: internet (everything else blank)
ROSHAN
i'm just trying that right now. Other than the APN, i saw that you must activate GPRS by sending message to 167 with text: GPRS on
http://www.afghanistanforums.com/index.php?action=printpage;topic=323.0
hope it helps.

Knumb said:
anyone have manual settings for Roshan?
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Roshan settings are as follow
Name: Roshan
APN: internet
everything else leave default and ensure phone internet service turned on

roshan is... expensive...

There was some news of 3G coming in 2011 to Afghanistan and the government was in talks with the carriers. The carriers are concerned that their investment in infrastructure could be wasted by attacks on towers. I doubt it will happen this year and if it does it will probably just be Kabul.

pyrator said:
roshan is... expensive...
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Depends on how you use it...
I have had a 1,k AFS scratch card loaded on my phone for 3months. still have about 350AFS on it. I use it to call local Roshan #'s mainly and RARE calls stateside after 9pm afghanistan time. I've done maybe 15 sms msgs on it to the USA.
BUT yes GPRS data is stupid $$$
as of 04/07/2011
GPRS Rates: A fee of 0.10 Afs is applicable per 10 KB download in Afghanistan.
So 1 AFS per KB, a 1k AFS card is $23ish USD do the math...
MIGHT be cheaper @ the Bazaar or via online top up but don't think so

fooman123 said:
thanks -- good information. I'll be in Herat Provence soon.
I heard talk of 3G last year - any insight from someone on the ground?
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Just talk, still 2g/GPRS IF your lucky, some guys are saying its not worth bothering out in the field.
YzRacer said:
There was some news of 3G coming in 2011 to Afghanistan and the government was in talks with the carriers. The carriers are concerned that their investment in infrastructure could be wasted by attacks on towers. I doubt it will happen this year and if it does it will probably just be Kabul.
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Thought I read Kabul had it (April `11 time frame) but I'm way down in Kandahar so we are just glad to have service
Cause yes, they used to shut down cell towers at night to keep them from getting attacked.

roshon gprs setting
I use my android with these setting, simple..
access point
Name: Any name u want
APN: internet
Save those in. Your gprs should kick in.
Im in Bagram and it works for me in certain areas.

Majikman said:
I use my android with these setting, simple..
access point
Name: Any name u want
APN: internet
Save those in. Your gprs should kick in.
Im in Bagram and it works for me in certain areas.
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What are the speeds like on Bagram, and how fast do the Roshan cards deplete? I currently have a Roshan Sim in my HTC but didnt even know I could use data!

I wonder if you (or any expert else) can tell me how it is configured on Galaxy S2 phones? I can't find the setting for such GPRS details?