Only to Chinese Users of XDAII - Please help (GPRS)! - Networking

Hi guys,
I have the problem, that I cannot connect with GPRS. It always says that on the other side no modem is installed.
Provider: Shanghai Mobile / China Telecom
SIM: Prepaid (e-tong)
GPRS: "Business package" (inkl. 500 MB traffic)
Should you be using the same provider, I would be grateful for some screenshots (Chinese screenshots would be fine as well). I (and a member of the IT department) have already been calling 1860 several times and they told me that GPRS is already activated for my SIM, so that I should be able to connect. Only the business package will be activated on 05/01/04 but free GPRS should be working. What am I doing wrong? :roll:
For GPRS (no WAP) it is only necessary to make a new connection and enter "cmnet" as accesspoint, right? No proxy, no password and no username, right??
Please help...

May I copy from other site to solove this problem.
You must be set the APN to cmwap and then setup up the proxy sever to 10.0.0.172:80.
Please try it!

Thanks for your help but these are the settings for WAP via GPRS (please don't mind).
Meanwhile I figured out what the problem was: China Mobile did not activate my GPRS service although several agents at the hotline had confirmed that it was already opened.
GPRS (Internet, not WAP) just requires to enter "cmnet" as Access Point (APN) and then it works smoothly...
I've been discussing with China Mobile's hotline for more than 1.5 hours and spoke to five different agents. The horrible thing was, that four of them didn't even know what the difference between GPRS and WAP via GPRS is.
Having worked for a provider myself, I consider that quite astonishing (& frightening). China Mobile is the biggest provider (or at least one of them) worldwide, so that such a bad knowledge gap should really not appear.
For those guys with XDA in China: Shanghai Mobile offers a GPRS package with an included volume of 500MB for 200 RMB (appr. 20 Euro) monthly. You have to buy an eTong SIM card for that, activate the GPRS in any direct service shop of China Mobile and then you can start using your GPRS like hell, national GPRS roaming is supported and also inclusive.
That's a fair price and shows what is possible but not offered by European providers possibly due to margin reasons (they earn a hell of money with their business customers)...

I wish we could get that here, 20 euro for 500mb, :shock:

Good at PRICE, WORST AT service
Good at PRICE, WORST AT service
Thats it, PRICE is the only thing they offered

Certainly, it's only the price but as long as you can help yourself, you are well off...

how about the result of you?

As already pointed out, I figured out, what the problem was (GPRS not activated from provider's site, although hotline confirmed that it was active).
Now GPRS is running perfectly and GPRS WAP is also working fine...

8) Did anyone know the setting of China Mobile M-zone. I using it via cmwap. Also inform CS of China Mobile. But, still cannot active the CMnet.

Maybe GPRS Internet is not active or available for your card.
If your are trying to access the M-Zone WAP via CMNET this will fail as you need the GPRS WAP connection for that. So maybe GPRS is not supported for your SIM or the service is not activated for you (normally you have to apply via a form for it.
Third possibility is wrong setting - maybe you should call China Mobile and ask for the setting of your XDA2 (Chinese Name: Duopuda 696).

please can u attache here the cab file for china moblie GPRS settings for xdaII?

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O2 payg gprs

I have never been able to access gprs on my O2 payg sim. The sim comes with free sms plus free gprs pages and free wap. Am I missing something, is the sim automatically gprs ready or do I need to get it activated? Others on the forum seem to have managed it but I just cant and I have to be content with standard GSM connection. Any help greatly appreciated, the sim is the one that gives 300 minutes wap plus 300 sms messages free for a minimum tenner a month topup. Thanks.
Is anybody using O2 payg and also using gprs on xda, if so, did you have to get your sim activated to do so. I have found it impossible although others claim to be able to do it.
o2 payg gprs
mate, i take it you have an o2 online chip where you get 300 txt and 300 wap minutes.
now to fully exploit the xda2's data capabilities, you need not the o2 wap gprs service but o2 mobile web which is o2's full internet, web and email (pretty much unrestricted) service and only available to o2 contract customers.
i do know earlier o2 online (genie) chips had unrestricted gprs in some shape or form and some folks were even able to exploit full web access on these but these were provided in error chips.
newer online chips though and even regular payg for that matter can only do wap gprs or wap gsm but nothing more.
i know its a hassle but its got something to do with the different access point names and server IP addresses attached to payg gprs and contract sims.
Gbolly, thanks for that, I can acces everything I need over wap using internet explorer, my problem is I cannot get gprs to work even though the sim details say that I have free gprs pages in the bundle. Is the sim always gprs capable or do I have to ask for it to be enabled. If I put the sim in a smartphone spv it shows the "G" constantly so I am assuming it is capable.
Call Customer Services and they will provision GPRS onto the account. The Genie sims are not provisioned out of the packet. I have to call up Online Customer Services multiple times a day for customers who have bought the sims online and cannot access GPRS. In the shop we simply call up Online and provision the sims in large batches upon arrival to the store. Makes it much easier.
Set your APN to payandgo.o2.co.uk
Username to payandgo
Password is password
Once your SIM has been provisioned you will have access to the GPRS side of things.
Re: o2 payg gprs
gbolly said:
o2 mobile web which is o2's full internet, web and email (pretty much unrestricted) service and only available to o2 contract customers.
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News to me? Im a monthly contract customer, and as far as i know you pay for the data as you use it. You can bundle about 5MB of data, but you pay about £12 for it a month.
If theres some free access im missing out on, please enlighten me!
gprs only works with wap on the xda and mms
wap works with both except not mms
o2 online can only do wap over gprs and not datagprs (mobile web)
if you want to surf using gprs then you should move onto an contract plan.
i phoned up customer services to ask them about dataplans they say they cannot do them for PAYG customers.
o2online sims you buy now days are already set up for gprs use straight from the packet after topping up £10 (wait 24 hours) then your free texts/wap minutes come into play
for mms you will have to phone them up and ask for it to be enabled.
ive been on o2 genie/online for about 4 years now

XDA2 O2 GSM Internet Settings Problems

I've just got an XDA, but am having problems connecting to the internet with it. I'm using GSM (O2 ConnectSettings screen has UK, PostPaid and GSM ticked) because I'm on the 200 minute tariff (at least for the next three months), don't want to pay the daft O2 GPRS costs and will never use the 200 minutes otherwise.
I ask it to connect to to the internet and it says "Dialing +447712932932", then after a few seconds it says "No modem at above number." Does anyone know what internet settings I should be using to get a connection? What about phone profile settings - does the +44 bit mean it's trying to get an international line? Is the number correct?
I mainly read/send email from a non-O2 POP mailbox, but also want to surf the web and have a play with WAP & O2 active.
Any comments about my GSM vs. GPRS thoughts. By the way, when I tried with GPRS (O2 ConnectSettings screen now has UK, PostPaid and GPRS ticked) I got the same error about there being no modem at the other end.
Cheers,
Phil.
Dead easy solution in the end. Apparently the person who swore blind that GSM and GPRS data had been turned on at the O2 end was wrong. So after some more calls to their helpline, it's finally working. God knows why they don't do this by default, since why else would you get an XDA if not for the data connection?
Cheers,
Phil.

International WAP

Hello All,
I am researching purchasing a SPV m1000 for my company to use as a phone and WAP device to check email through our WAP portal. After reading many, many of your postings it sounds like to use GPRS in different countries we will have to change the settings (ie. access points) in each country we visit. Is this correct? Does this become a pain to do? How do you get the settings for each country?
Also I understand that if GPRS is not available you can use WAP using just GSM at 9.6kbps. Do you just dial a number similar to a dial-up to connect to this? How well does it work?
Does GPRS usually work out more cost effictive than data through GSM? Which UK company seems to be the best when using in many different countries?
Thanks for any help,
Daniel
Hello,
The GPRS settings shouldn't change. It depends if your phone provider has roaming agreement worldwide.
I had a french phone provider, Bouyues, who had no agreement, so outside France I was stucked.
Now I am in Switzerland, Swisscom mobile has agreements worldwide and I can get access to WAP without any problem. Of course, it's more expensive... but it works without changing anything.

GPRS in China

Hi, I have a jasjar in the UK using the o2 network, i will be going to China in june and would like to use the gprs nextwork there. Could someone tell me what i need to do to set it up? The help desk here keep insisting that my set up should just work, but I've been to China 3 times already and 3 times the gprs network was unavailable to me. What do I need to do?
Thanks
It all depends if O2 has a GPRS roaming agreement with the operator in China. You need to ask O2 this as they may not have GPRS agreements with every operator which they have a voice roaming agreement.
But when you find out what their roaming data charges are I think you'll find it will be far more economic to get a local prepaid SIM if the operator in the region that you are going to has prepaid GPRS. A quick google shows that E-Tong in Shanghai provide this http://home.wangjianshuo.com/archives/20030707_use_gprs_in_shanghai.htm
That's easy. But firstly , would you like to use sim card produced by China?
If you use chinese sim card, the settings are easy.And what's more, it costs only 2$ for a month . Such phone number start with '136.........'.
The roaming will be extremely expensive. So it's better to forget about it.
The best way is buy one local prepaid card. But it's not easy just like saying.
China has two operators, China Mobile and China Unicom. China Unicom doesn't provide the GPRS service but CDMA. So if you want to use GPRS connection, you have to choose China Mobile. And China Mobile has three kinds of branded service, Go-Tone, M-Zone and Shenzhou Xing. The 1st one is only for registered users, so you won't be able to apply it. M-Zone is the prepaid and for sure with GPRS service, the last one may not be able to use GPRS depends on the different region.
But one thing you must pay attention. All prepaid card provided GPRS service is only able to use http connection with proxy. If you just want to browsing the web pages, it should be no problem. But if you want to receive/send email, there is no way.
Settings:
1: Web browsing
APN: CMWAP
Proxy: 10.0.0.172 port:80
2: MMS
APN: CMWAP
Gateway: 10.0.0.172 port:9201
Server address: http://mmsc.monternet.com
Enjoy it.
To use GPRS roaming in China check out http://www.o2.co.uk/business/produc...ices/travelling/using/gprsnets/0,,600,00.html
Seems its only China Mobile. And the charges are (gulp)
http://www.o2.co.uk/business/productsservices/mobileservices/travelling/using/gprs/0,,606,00.html
dahuzi said:
The best way is buy one local prepaid card. But it's not easy just like saying.
China has two operators, China Mobile and China Unicom. China Unicom doesn't provide the GPRS service but CDMA. So if you want to use GPRS connection, you have to choose China Mobile. And China Mobile has three kinds of branded service, Go-Tone, M-Zone and Shenzhou Xing. The 1st one is only for registered users, so you won't be able to apply it. M-Zone is the prepaid and for sure with GPRS service, the last one may not be able to use GPRS depends on the different region.
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Hi dahuzi... thanks for your reply. Is the Go-Tone a contract service with a monthly service charge?...
May I make some amendments to what dahuzi said:
I'm using both Go-zone and M-zone, and both can browse websites and check email. They are 2 types of connection; one is so called cmwap, and one is cmnet. You should use cmnet, which is the normal GPRS connection used worldwide.
The charge is different in different regions. Let's say in Beijing, the charge is RMB 20 (approx. Eur 2.00) for 50Mbs, RMB 100 for 800Mbs.
1: Web browsing
APN: CMWAP
Proxy: 10.0.0.172 port:80
2: MMS
APN: CMWAP
Gateway: 10.0.0.172 port:9201
Server address: http://mmsc.monternet.com
The above settings is for mobile handset only. You will not be able to use for full intenet usage.
If you intend to use your PDA or PC to access the internet using GPRS. You will require cwnet for full interenet access, and this service only available for locals pay monthly account package only. The service is not available for pay as go customer.
Internet on the move for foreign visitors in China may be confine to Starbucks or some WiFi hotspots.
Anyone who knows the China Mobile CEOs please pass this message to them, we are frustrated with their GPRS services unable to give full interent access for us foreigners.
Well, I was in China during my easter holidays and was very happy to find, after getting my bill, that O2 did not charge a penny for GPRS roaming in China with China mobile. Furthermore there is no need for additional settings on Exec so that everything worked fine and, freely. The GPRS roaming was really perfect; there was no need to buy a SIM from Chinese operators.
I am with an O2 data tariff which accounts for 200M data per month (29.8 pounds inc. tax).
I'm however not sure if it is the same case with Orange but I guess, from my past experience with China Mobile (I used the GPRS service since its open day in CM), it is highly possible to be a free roaming. HOWEVER I AM NOT LIABLE TO ANY MIS-GUESSES so please don't accuse me if I was wrong ..
My service provider is Mobilinkgsm in Pakistan. Last week I visited China. My GPRS worked perfectly there in China. I also sent and received MMS messages without any problem.
I was not required to change any settings for either the GPRS access point nor the MMS settings as my connection with MobilinkGSM Pakistan is set to International Roaming. I have an i-mate Jasjar.
GPRS international roaming rates for Mobilinkgsm Pakistan though are quite high. They charge US$ 0.02 per KB which means almost US$ 20.50 for a MB of Upload + Download data.
Just wanted to share my experience.
Regards

Using G1 in India

I live in the UK (London) and am G1 user (root/JF ADP1.5). I will be visiting India in the near future and would like to be online via the G1. From browsing the web it seems this is possible, other users have managed to do this.
I just wanted to get a clear picture of what is involved in getting the G1 data connection enabled in India?
Here’s what I expect, please correct me if I am wrong and please do add anything that you may think would be of interest in knowing…?
Purchase SIM card. Either Airtel or Vodaphone preferably the one is cheapest and/or provides faster data connection (ie 3g or not).
Phone is unlocked to accept any sim card so no problems there.
Enter some settings in the phone to enable data connection. It’s here where I’m unsure what to do or if the network provider will be able to provide the relevant details I would require?
Once I set this up will the G1 run as normal or will there be any limitations? Will google maps pick up my current location and how accurate will it be in India? Will I receive push Email?
Any other advice/comments about using the G1 on an Indian sim would be greatly appreciated.
Jignesh
As long as you have your data set up, EDGE/GPRS, maps will work just fine, so will your push email. GPS will work too, its pretty accurate, you'll just find tile download times excruciating especially if you are used to 3G. When in India i use Vodafone btw.
Everything work as expected, the interner comnection is EDGE based so the speed is slow, you can get the setting from the provider or else from the internet, generally provider settings are sent to phone through OTA and received as system setting message on other Nokia phone this feature is yet to be implmented on Android. The Airtel setting is Apn airtelgprs.com , once you create a new Apn settingyou just have to enter this apn and other default network and area code will bepicked from simcard
Nothing change the technology and network are same and if you are going to be in Delhi use MTNL as provider and use there 3G network to access Internet
yeah i used it for about 2 months there, no problems whatsoever..(except that I managed to get the screen cracked while playing cricket!) i am not sure about market/OTA working there...but you can use the gprs connection to use all the online frills that G1 has..
I live in Maharashtra, India & have Android Developer Phone 1
Here There Is no 3G only GPRS/EDGE
If U are going to visit Maharashtra or say Mumbai city,
I would prefer u to use Airtel Sim Bcoz Vodaphone Sim Costs 10paise/10kb means nearly 10 Rupees for 1 MB & in $, $1 for 5MB
While Airtel Allows 2 Data plans:
1. Daily Unlimited Plan:
Use Unlimited Data For Rs 20 - 25 per day
I would prefer U this Plan As My G1 at least Uses 30 MB of Data per Day According to Nercounter app
Ask the Airtel Gallery/ Customer Care For Activation...
2. Mobile Office Plan (30 paise / 50 kb):
This Plan charges according to your data Usage, 30 p / 50 kb means Rs. 6-7 per Mb
If U choose This activation process would not be given by customer care, so here is the process:
Dial *567#
Reply "1" Mobile Office Activation
Again Enter "1" Activate Mobile Office
It will be activated within 1 hour
now The Apn Setting:
Apn Name : put any thing, I put Airtel
Apn : airtelgprs.com
Then Save It, U have Activated GPRS/EDGE
Everything works fine, except:
1. OTA.
and 2. Paid Market Apps (at least on my phone! G1 with Jf1.5)
that too can be done !!!
1. OTA is enabled For Both ADP1 & G1 that too in all the Countries...
2. Paid Applications: Its Sim Dependent, So is Not enabled on ADP1,
sol : If u Have an Proper US Billing Address U can get past through it even on ADP1... Just Get MarketEnabler App on Jf 1.5
I can view Paid Apps but cant buy coz i lack US Billing Address...
Using G1 in India in New Delhi
Hi Team,
I got the Android from US, it is unlocked for all networks.
Now, in India I am trying to use it on Vodafone network in Delhi, but the phone does not starts, as after entering the username and password for Gmail, the phone is not able to connect to the Google Servers and so I am not able to start and use my phone here.
manikuta said:
Hi Team,
I got the Android from US, it is unlocked for all networks.
Now, in India I am trying to use it on Vodafone network in Delhi, but the phone does not starts, as after entering the username and password for Gmail, the phone is not able to connect to the Google Servers and so I am not able to start and use my phone here.
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It seems that you have reset your phone, and thats why you got the activation screen.
and now with the Vodafone SIM, you have to setup your phone with their APN. On the activation screen, you have the option to manually set your APN settings by pressing the Menu button.
manikuta said:
Hi Team,
I got the Android from US, it is unlocked for all networks.
Now, in India I am trying to use it on Vodafone network in Delhi, but the phone does not starts, as after entering the username and password for Gmail, the phone is not able to connect to the Google Servers and so I am not able to start and use my phone here.
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guys even im having the same problem . im stuck at login screen the phone fails to contact google servers . cud som1 plz gimme the exact apn settings plz .
Even i had the same problem ...was stuck at login screen
I m with vodafone so activated its vodafone mobile connect service.
vodfone says its gprs/edge service cannot access https websites..
as google login requires https protocol all those who are with gprs/edge wont be able to go ahead.
you need to call your service provider and tell them " i need data plan that allows me to access all www sites"
i have tried almost on all service providers and this is the language they understand..
it takes few hrs for activation for vodafone mobile connect.
after activtion enter APN: www
leave all fields blank.
BANG! you are now in if you don need the service deactivate it!
LOGIN FIXED!!!!

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