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GSM based net connection

Does anyone know if there is a way to connect to a normal ISP, using a GSM connection, instead of GPRS. I have data calls on my t-mobile account, but when i set up my isp details and dial it, the XDA tells me the remote computer is not responding, when it blatently is, cos i can dial it using my laptop.

Hi Dave,
If you are UK based T-Mobile have released their GPRS service last week. They have a number of packages including 0.075p per KB or £15 for 10MB.
Its not on their website but their staff know about it.
Simon.

Your settings are wrong. Put the correct settings in. Ask someone who knows what the correct settings are in order to discover the correct settings

Maybe it's not all about wrong settings.
After I tried to connect to O2 using GSM from Danmark last week, I called O2 Germany and they told me it won't work. They have no roaming partner for GPRS in some countries and they disabled the GSM for whatever reason. The old numbers I could use to dial in last year won't work any longer. I get timeout error messages or "The connection you dialed does not answer". (It doesn't say it don't exist!)
Considering to quit O2 and use T-D1 again instead. I am very disappointed by the O2 net coverage.
Martin

Martin
OK, some networks do not support GSM data, and frequently networks will not have GPRS agreements with other networks in other countries.
Can you register onto Telia? In Denmark I believe they have GSM data @ 9.6kbps
You also need to make sure that your home network enables 'full' GSM data, maybe that's what you meant in your post. If they switched it off ask them ever so politely if they'll turn it back on.

I connect to the net using the wap number which is included in o2 minutes on the 250 package, (the gsm internet number was not included minutes) you can change the number dialled in the connection settings box. also set it to "always dial"
check the number dialled as it puts a prefix depending on country settings etc you also need data enable on your sim which is done thru your gsm provider. Sorry if i'm saying the obvious... hope this is of help

Dave, you need to have T-Mobile enable CSD (Circuit Switched Data), which is off by default. There is no charge to have this enabled.

O2 payg gprs

I have never been able to access gprs on my O2 payg sim. The sim comes with free sms plus free gprs pages and free wap. Am I missing something, is the sim automatically gprs ready or do I need to get it activated? Others on the forum seem to have managed it but I just cant and I have to be content with standard GSM connection. Any help greatly appreciated, the sim is the one that gives 300 minutes wap plus 300 sms messages free for a minimum tenner a month topup. Thanks.

Is anybody using O2 payg and also using gprs on xda, if so, did you have to get your sim activated to do so. I have found it impossible although others claim to be able to do it.

o2 payg gprs
mate, i take it you have an o2 online chip where you get 300 txt and 300 wap minutes.
now to fully exploit the xda2's data capabilities, you need not the o2 wap gprs service but o2 mobile web which is o2's full internet, web and email (pretty much unrestricted) service and only available to o2 contract customers.
i do know earlier o2 online (genie) chips had unrestricted gprs in some shape or form and some folks were even able to exploit full web access on these but these were provided in error chips.
newer online chips though and even regular payg for that matter can only do wap gprs or wap gsm but nothing more.
i know its a hassle but its got something to do with the different access point names and server IP addresses attached to payg gprs and contract sims.

Gbolly, thanks for that, I can acces everything I need over wap using internet explorer, my problem is I cannot get gprs to work even though the sim details say that I have free gprs pages in the bundle. Is the sim always gprs capable or do I have to ask for it to be enabled. If I put the sim in a smartphone spv it shows the "G" constantly so I am assuming it is capable.

Call Customer Services and they will provision GPRS onto the account. The Genie sims are not provisioned out of the packet. I have to call up Online Customer Services multiple times a day for customers who have bought the sims online and cannot access GPRS. In the shop we simply call up Online and provision the sims in large batches upon arrival to the store. Makes it much easier.
Set your APN to payandgo.o2.co.uk
Username to payandgo
Password is password
Once your SIM has been provisioned you will have access to the GPRS side of things.

Re: o2 payg gprs
gbolly said:
o2 mobile web which is o2's full internet, web and email (pretty much unrestricted) service and only available to o2 contract customers.
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News to me? Im a monthly contract customer, and as far as i know you pay for the data as you use it. You can bundle about 5MB of data, but you pay about £12 for it a month.
If theres some free access im missing out on, please enlighten me!

gprs only works with wap on the xda and mms
wap works with both except not mms
o2 online can only do wap over gprs and not datagprs (mobile web)
if you want to surf using gprs then you should move onto an contract plan.
i phoned up customer services to ask them about dataplans they say they cannot do them for PAYG customers.
o2online sims you buy now days are already set up for gprs use straight from the packet after topping up £10 (wait 24 hours) then your free texts/wap minutes come into play
for mms you will have to phone them up and ask for it to be enabled.
ive been on o2 genie/online for about 4 years now

Vodafone & GPRS

I have recently unlocked my phone so that I may use it on Vodafone as the O2 coverage in my area is not the best.
My question is is it possible to log onto to the Vodafone GPRS system with my XDA.
If so how do I configure my XDA so that it works.
Awaiting With Interset Your Replies
Andy

im having the same problem

GPS
Youll need a slieve or gps reciever for the nav system to work. it will work fine with vodaphone, just not on its own as a hand set.

Vodafone GPRS Settings
Hi Vodafone GPRS setting on XDA are as follows: Start/Setting then connection tab, click Connections and on My ISP, add a new modem connection. Enter name i.e. Vodafone then select modem type Cellular Line(GPRS).Internet Access point is 'Internet' if your on contract, and 'pp.vodafone..co.uk' if your on pay as you go. Next user name is web and password is web. That's it your done, go surf. :roll:

Re: Vodafone GPRS Settings
Tried your connection setup as suggested and got the message 'No modem at above number'. Any clue what next, Thanx

Vodafone GPRS Settings
As far as I can see these settings work fine on the XDA1, I do not have access to a XDA2 so i cannot confirm if these settings will work on XDA2.

Doh! after categorically stating I had followed gadgetnet's advice and couldn't still get web access on my xda2 I have to eat humble pie. Gadgetnet's advice is spot on but ofcourse technonerds like me have to first of all check that their service provider has GPRS enabled their sim cards. I got Vodafone to enable GPRS on my sim (simply a phone call request made to their call centre) and half an hour later I was surfin in fine style. Remember if you want to access Adult sites like the National Lottery you have to go on line by other means to the vodafone website and set it up. Takes about 15mins with credit card as ID of age.

Vodafone GPRS Settings
Followed gadgetnet's instructions to the letter, worked a treat first time. Really impressed with the service far better thatn O2's. So thankyou gadgetnet.

Downgraded from Contract to pay as you go.

I have recently lost my job so as funds are low, decided to get a pay as you go sim for my XDA2 and cancel my contract.
Now I find that I can't get full Internet access over GPRS. Shame but not the end of the world. Before realising this, i have changed and deleted most of my connection settings.
Therefore, I need the connection settings so that I can send & receive my pop3 mail. (is this possible over GPRS on pay as you go?)
I called O2 but they were no help.
Also, if I were to unlock the XDA2, does Orange or any other network give FULL Internet via GPRS?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

xda2 payg
I've cancelled my contract and am using an orange payg sim. GPRS is free till end of april in the UK. GPRS is generally free on O2 PAYG if you can trick them into enabling it. I used the cab files available here to set up everything.

I am afraid you will not get FULL internet including POP3 email on O2 UK's PAYG GPRS, you only get WAP as most other ports are blocked.
If you have an ISP with a dialup number you could use standard GSM and dial in to get full access but then you are charged by the minute and only have a speed of 9600. If your emails are small then it is quite quick to do it this way.
If your sim is an O2 Online PAYG card and you change to the new Talkalot Calls & Messages tarif for your free allowance then you can use some of your 100 free minutes/text. Your ISP must have a standard localised dialup number though as 0845 etc are not covered by free minutes AFAIK.
However if you text a lot then it would be best to stay with Talkalot Messages. After all if you use more than 3 minutes a day then your only paying 5p a minute weekdays and 2p a minute weekends anyway.
Regardig your wap access though there are sites that will log into your email account and display your emails on wap pages for you. This may be ok but remember anything over your free wap allowance costs £2.35 per MB.
http://mail2web.com from pc
http://mail2web.com/pda from PDA
you may have to change the http to wsp on the PDA depending on how you are configured.
Hope this helps.

FULL GPRS on PAYG O2
I can browse the web on my new O2 PAYG sim, it can be enabled, but needs a bit of guile and effort. Having worked at O2 previously helped.

Unusual T-Mobile UK data connection problem

Bought an HTC SIM-Free Touch HD.
Transferred Pre-pay Contract Web'n'Walk SIM from T-Mobile MDA Vario III (HTC TyTN II/Kaiser), which has been working very well for over a year, worldwide. In the HD the Internet data connection is very unreliable. It hardly ever connects first time; and loses connection frequently e.g. after 5 or so web pages. Sometimes the "Number Dialled, cannot connect" bubble appears; sometimes just obscure messages like "cannot connect to web page". Resetting or restarting the radio does not help as normally the first connection fails. Persistence usually works i.e. after about 8 re-tries a page will be loaded or whatever other data request is being made. I have scoured the internet, XDA and other support forums and tried various connection setups. I hoped the April ROM update would fix it, but it made no improvement. The T-Mobile SIM also works in my Sony Vaio which has an Option internal 3G modem.
I tried an O2 phone contract SIM: worked perfectly, but cost me a fortune in data charges just to prove to myself it worked in various places, including in cars and trains. I bought a Vodafone PAYG USB Stick and have used the SIM from that faultlessly for £10 out of the first £15 for 1Gig of data (of course there is no phone service). I tried a data SIM from a T-Mobile USB 3G Stick, and that showed the same symptoms as my T-Mobile Phone Contract SIM. So it seems to be T-Mobile connections, not the particular SIM.
I want to use my T-Mobile Phone SIM as I can use it overseas, I know the phone number, and I am on contract so I am paying for it, including unlimited internet, anyway. However there seems to be a mismatch between the Touch HD and the T-Mobile service. The T-Mobile SIM works fine in other devices (originally an MDA Pro, HTC Universal); and other carriers work fine with the HD. Is there a registry tweak or some other modification I can make to make this work? Thanks

hi i used these settings
for web'n'walk users, use the following credentials
Connects To: The Internet
Access Point: general.t-mobile.uk
username: t-mobile
Password: one2one
DNS: as per above
Note: The DNS settings above are for OpenDNS servers, which have shown to improve the performance of web browsing on the T-Mobile network.
Adding the following Header to HTTP Requests disables the Image Recompression and Improves Page Loading Time. However only Desktop Browsers and PIEPlus have a option to add additional headers.
Cache-Control: no-transform
hope it helps

Thanks. I'll give it a try.

'fraid that did not help, but:
1) received SMS from T-Mobile yesterday saying that they would be improving the network over the next few days to improve connections, so maybe I've been suffering faults they are now fixing, and
2) learnt that Orange and T-Mobile use 1800MHz whilst O2 and Vodafone use 900MHz so perhaps the 1800MHz reception of the HD is marginal.
Will keep an eye on T-Mobile but contract runs out soon so have signed up with O2 Simplicity (SIM_only) plus unlimited Web for £17.38 per month on month only commitment contract - works fine.
Thanks for the help.