Hello All,
I am researching purchasing a SPV m1000 for my company to use as a phone and WAP device to check email through our WAP portal. After reading many, many of your postings it sounds like to use GPRS in different countries we will have to change the settings (ie. access points) in each country we visit. Is this correct? Does this become a pain to do? How do you get the settings for each country?
Also I understand that if GPRS is not available you can use WAP using just GSM at 9.6kbps. Do you just dial a number similar to a dial-up to connect to this? How well does it work?
Does GPRS usually work out more cost effictive than data through GSM? Which UK company seems to be the best when using in many different countries?
Thanks for any help,
Daniel
Hello,
The GPRS settings shouldn't change. It depends if your phone provider has roaming agreement worldwide.
I had a french phone provider, Bouyues, who had no agreement, so outside France I was stucked.
Now I am in Switzerland, Swisscom mobile has agreements worldwide and I can get access to WAP without any problem. Of course, it's more expensive... but it works without changing anything.
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Can someone help, I'm confused about how GPRS works.
The situation is, I have a XDA on the O2 network. GPRS works fine in the UK.
I recently went to HK, and it didn't work.
Before I went to HK, I phoned the O2 help line and asked them specifically if I need to make any changes, they said 'NO', it should work without any changes similar to GSM international roaming.
By looking around this forum, its seems to me that information given to me is wrong.
Would it be correct to say that if I take my XDA to another country for a short trip, I need to set up the GPRS dial up to connect to whatever GPRS provider that exist in that country?
In other words, GPRS is not seemless like roaming GSM?
With GSM roaming it uses the SS7 network which all netorks connect to.
GPRS roaming never specified the mechanism to carry roaming traffic (as it was IP and not suitable for carrying over SS7).
Consequently there are about 4 public GRX networks that carry GPRS roaming traffic. For seemless GPRS roaming every operator has to connect to all 4.
O2 only has GPRS roaming agreements with a few operators in a few countries. For instance in France there is only a roaming agreement with SFR, so GPRS does work fine, without any changes in config on SFR only. GPRS roaming to O2 will not work on the other two networks.
O2 may have a GPRS roaming agreement with one operator in HK.
Vodafone will ONLY GPRS roam with other Vodafone group companies.
O2 UK do, indeed, have one agreement for GPRS roaming in Hong Kong. They were correct in saying no settings need changing - you are not connecting to the Hong Kong GGSN, after all.
Did you ask that all international roaming bars be lifted and reboot the unit at least 24 hours in advance of leaving the country?
Hi guys,
I have the problem, that I cannot connect with GPRS. It always says that on the other side no modem is installed.
Provider: Shanghai Mobile / China Telecom
SIM: Prepaid (e-tong)
GPRS: "Business package" (inkl. 500 MB traffic)
Should you be using the same provider, I would be grateful for some screenshots (Chinese screenshots would be fine as well). I (and a member of the IT department) have already been calling 1860 several times and they told me that GPRS is already activated for my SIM, so that I should be able to connect. Only the business package will be activated on 05/01/04 but free GPRS should be working. What am I doing wrong? :roll:
For GPRS (no WAP) it is only necessary to make a new connection and enter "cmnet" as accesspoint, right? No proxy, no password and no username, right??
Please help...
May I copy from other site to solove this problem.
You must be set the APN to cmwap and then setup up the proxy sever to 10.0.0.172:80.
Please try it!
Thanks for your help but these are the settings for WAP via GPRS (please don't mind).
Meanwhile I figured out what the problem was: China Mobile did not activate my GPRS service although several agents at the hotline had confirmed that it was already opened.
GPRS (Internet, not WAP) just requires to enter "cmnet" as Access Point (APN) and then it works smoothly...
I've been discussing with China Mobile's hotline for more than 1.5 hours and spoke to five different agents. The horrible thing was, that four of them didn't even know what the difference between GPRS and WAP via GPRS is.
Having worked for a provider myself, I consider that quite astonishing (& frightening). China Mobile is the biggest provider (or at least one of them) worldwide, so that such a bad knowledge gap should really not appear.
For those guys with XDA in China: Shanghai Mobile offers a GPRS package with an included volume of 500MB for 200 RMB (appr. 20 Euro) monthly. You have to buy an eTong SIM card for that, activate the GPRS in any direct service shop of China Mobile and then you can start using your GPRS like hell, national GPRS roaming is supported and also inclusive.
That's a fair price and shows what is possible but not offered by European providers possibly due to margin reasons (they earn a hell of money with their business customers)...
I wish we could get that here, 20 euro for 500mb, :shock:
Good at PRICE, WORST AT service
Good at PRICE, WORST AT service
Thats it, PRICE is the only thing they offered
Certainly, it's only the price but as long as you can help yourself, you are well off...
how about the result of you?
As already pointed out, I figured out, what the problem was (GPRS not activated from provider's site, although hotline confirmed that it was active).
Now GPRS is running perfectly and GPRS WAP is also working fine...
8) Did anyone know the setting of China Mobile M-zone. I using it via cmwap. Also inform CS of China Mobile. But, still cannot active the CMnet.
Maybe GPRS Internet is not active or available for your card.
If your are trying to access the M-Zone WAP via CMNET this will fail as you need the GPRS WAP connection for that. So maybe GPRS is not supported for your SIM or the service is not activated for you (normally you have to apply via a form for it.
Third possibility is wrong setting - maybe you should call China Mobile and ask for the setting of your XDA2 (Chinese Name: Duopuda 696).
please can u attache here the cab file for china moblie GPRS settings for xdaII?
Hi,
I hope someone can help
Just bought a XDA Exec so that can use it in japan to replace my M1000 which is a A1000 in disgise
At the moment I'm using DoCoMo but I'm getting some strange problems the phone takes ages to lock to the signal and sometimes wouldn't ring
I can't seem to get the internet to work with my M1000 setting
The only other 3G network is Vodaphone so i'm wondering if it would be any better than DoCoMo service and if anyone has managed to get the internet work on any one of these networks
Thanks
Rob :?[/b]
Hi, Tokyorob
I think DoCoMo is no suitable and improper for using Exec.
The standard of the cellular phone base stations are different between DoCoMo and others .
DoCoMo's base station named Release99, and the World standard one named Release4.
DoCoMo has also R4 station, but they are only 30 percent of all its stations, and 70 percent are R99.
All devices of DoCoMo are built as Suitable for R99 and R4 both.
M1000 is also that.
But HTC Universal is suitable only for R4.
That's why your Exec can not catch the wave of DoCoMo.
You'd better getting Vodafone USIM.
Regards
Thanks Shamilsh,
That's explains the drop outs
I did try out the Vodafone USIM and found it locked on faster but I still can't get the packet transfer to work
any ideas ?
Can I ask you something?
Hello Guys,
I dont mean to look silly but, as far as I know Japan networks are not GSM, they operate on CDMA, or am I mistaken?!
Thank you & have a great day all.
Tokyorob
You have two means to connect internet with your Exec.
One is UMTS Network of Vodafone KK.
Just you can set DialUp with your Exec setting Utility.
Select a modem: Callular Line(GPRS,3G)
Access Point Name: vodafone
User Name: [email protected]
Password: vodafone
And another is using bluetooth modem like as M1000.
Setting is same as M1000's one.
Regards
Thanks Shamilsh
Tried the config with my friends USIM and it worked..
What pricing package are you on ?
I was looking at the Dual Packet Flat-rate but told by my friend that it doesn't cover everything
Vodafone are less than helpful on the matter
Basically I want to be able to :-
Have the 3G connection on all the time
surf the web
run pocket msn/messager
do you think that will be covered ?
Thanks
Rob
Hi Rob
to use internet, you need to contract package "Happy Packet Super Plan"
or "Data Value Pack Plan".
But on "Data Value Pack", you can not make voice call.
with "Dual Packet Flat Plan", you will not be able to use MSN Meesenger nor E-mail nor Skype, because it is not real internet but it is WAP.
Very sorry but our situation around Mobile is very Inconvenience and non-flexible.
Shamilsh,
Many thanks
contracted to the "Happy Packet Super Plan" going to see what my monthly bill is going to be ..
Rob
Hi, I have a jasjar in the UK using the o2 network, i will be going to China in june and would like to use the gprs nextwork there. Could someone tell me what i need to do to set it up? The help desk here keep insisting that my set up should just work, but I've been to China 3 times already and 3 times the gprs network was unavailable to me. What do I need to do?
Thanks
It all depends if O2 has a GPRS roaming agreement with the operator in China. You need to ask O2 this as they may not have GPRS agreements with every operator which they have a voice roaming agreement.
But when you find out what their roaming data charges are I think you'll find it will be far more economic to get a local prepaid SIM if the operator in the region that you are going to has prepaid GPRS. A quick google shows that E-Tong in Shanghai provide this http://home.wangjianshuo.com/archives/20030707_use_gprs_in_shanghai.htm
That's easy. But firstly , would you like to use sim card produced by China?
If you use chinese sim card, the settings are easy.And what's more, it costs only 2$ for a month . Such phone number start with '136.........'.
The roaming will be extremely expensive. So it's better to forget about it.
The best way is buy one local prepaid card. But it's not easy just like saying.
China has two operators, China Mobile and China Unicom. China Unicom doesn't provide the GPRS service but CDMA. So if you want to use GPRS connection, you have to choose China Mobile. And China Mobile has three kinds of branded service, Go-Tone, M-Zone and Shenzhou Xing. The 1st one is only for registered users, so you won't be able to apply it. M-Zone is the prepaid and for sure with GPRS service, the last one may not be able to use GPRS depends on the different region.
But one thing you must pay attention. All prepaid card provided GPRS service is only able to use http connection with proxy. If you just want to browsing the web pages, it should be no problem. But if you want to receive/send email, there is no way.
Settings:
1: Web browsing
APN: CMWAP
Proxy: 10.0.0.172 port:80
2: MMS
APN: CMWAP
Gateway: 10.0.0.172 port:9201
Server address: http://mmsc.monternet.com
Enjoy it.
To use GPRS roaming in China check out http://www.o2.co.uk/business/produc...ices/travelling/using/gprsnets/0,,600,00.html
Seems its only China Mobile. And the charges are (gulp)
http://www.o2.co.uk/business/productsservices/mobileservices/travelling/using/gprs/0,,606,00.html
dahuzi said:
The best way is buy one local prepaid card. But it's not easy just like saying.
China has two operators, China Mobile and China Unicom. China Unicom doesn't provide the GPRS service but CDMA. So if you want to use GPRS connection, you have to choose China Mobile. And China Mobile has three kinds of branded service, Go-Tone, M-Zone and Shenzhou Xing. The 1st one is only for registered users, so you won't be able to apply it. M-Zone is the prepaid and for sure with GPRS service, the last one may not be able to use GPRS depends on the different region.
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Hi dahuzi... thanks for your reply. Is the Go-Tone a contract service with a monthly service charge?...
May I make some amendments to what dahuzi said:
I'm using both Go-zone and M-zone, and both can browse websites and check email. They are 2 types of connection; one is so called cmwap, and one is cmnet. You should use cmnet, which is the normal GPRS connection used worldwide.
The charge is different in different regions. Let's say in Beijing, the charge is RMB 20 (approx. Eur 2.00) for 50Mbs, RMB 100 for 800Mbs.
1: Web browsing
APN: CMWAP
Proxy: 10.0.0.172 port:80
2: MMS
APN: CMWAP
Gateway: 10.0.0.172 port:9201
Server address: http://mmsc.monternet.com
The above settings is for mobile handset only. You will not be able to use for full intenet usage.
If you intend to use your PDA or PC to access the internet using GPRS. You will require cwnet for full interenet access, and this service only available for locals pay monthly account package only. The service is not available for pay as go customer.
Internet on the move for foreign visitors in China may be confine to Starbucks or some WiFi hotspots.
Anyone who knows the China Mobile CEOs please pass this message to them, we are frustrated with their GPRS services unable to give full interent access for us foreigners.
Well, I was in China during my easter holidays and was very happy to find, after getting my bill, that O2 did not charge a penny for GPRS roaming in China with China mobile. Furthermore there is no need for additional settings on Exec so that everything worked fine and, freely. The GPRS roaming was really perfect; there was no need to buy a SIM from Chinese operators.
I am with an O2 data tariff which accounts for 200M data per month (29.8 pounds inc. tax).
I'm however not sure if it is the same case with Orange but I guess, from my past experience with China Mobile (I used the GPRS service since its open day in CM), it is highly possible to be a free roaming. HOWEVER I AM NOT LIABLE TO ANY MIS-GUESSES so please don't accuse me if I was wrong ..
My service provider is Mobilinkgsm in Pakistan. Last week I visited China. My GPRS worked perfectly there in China. I also sent and received MMS messages without any problem.
I was not required to change any settings for either the GPRS access point nor the MMS settings as my connection with MobilinkGSM Pakistan is set to International Roaming. I have an i-mate Jasjar.
GPRS international roaming rates for Mobilinkgsm Pakistan though are quite high. They charge US$ 0.02 per KB which means almost US$ 20.50 for a MB of Upload + Download data.
Just wanted to share my experience.
Regards
I need to setup GPRS on my cell phone, but my phone carrier told me that they dont give support to phones bought on other countries.
Does someone know which are the steps for setting up the GPRS and be able to connect to internet when there is no WiFi??
Thanks
Oscar
Anyone?
Hi,
You have to know your operators acess point.
Then select Start>Settings>Connection>Connections>Add a new modem connection.
And fyll with your providers information.
Where do you live?
Regards
JoseF
I live in Peru, South America, and my operator is CLARO
Please do a search
http://www.taniwha.org.uk/gprs.html
http://www.esato.com/archive/t.php/t-105977
You have to ask you provider for the actuall information.
JoseF