Strange SD card behaviour - MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General

Whenever I soft reset the device the memory card is not picked up, or only half the directories are picked up, and I have to pop it out and back in again for it to recognise everything correctly..
I am running 1.72 and we have three imates here at my work and they all behave like this.
Sometimes the Storage Card just seems to vanish even when there was no reset and the card has to be ejected and reloaded to pick it up again! This occurs daily for me (only had the device 4 days though) and one of the other guys here says it hapens quite frequently to him too!
Is this common behaviour for the imate/xda2 ???

I had similar problems with my SD card in my XDA2 (1.66.00wwe), i took out the card and formatted it a few times in my PC and so far it dosent seem to have happened again. This problem originally occurred in my ipaq 4150 so im not sure whether it was card related or not. There's an application called Pocket Mechanic which can run tests on SD cards, might be worth running that to see if it picks up anything. If you need a copy of it you can "borrow" mine.

mmm, no problems with pocket mechanic test!
Might back up data on card and try a low level format through PocketMechanic and see if that helps, but it is strange we have multiple devices and cards here (my work) all with the same behaviour. My Card and imate are both brand new..

Might be of interest: what brand of cards are you using?
There ARE issues with SD cards, mostly related to data transferrate.
Some brands are fast (ie KingMax i read) some are very slow (ie Kingston/Toshiba i noticed)

I bought a Fujifilm 512MB SD card off ebay for a silly low price, originally blamed my problems down to that fact but it seems to be ok now.

It is a Sandisk card (256mb) so VERY slow

Not sure if it is related, but I had an issue with mine, where I could read the SD Card in my PC, but not in my XDAII, unless I pushed it very firmly down, holding it in place.
It turned out to be dirty connections on the Card. With a bit of a clean (with a Screwdriver), everything works again!
Ian

FYI - a pencil eraser is the best thing to use to clean contacts on PC boards, memory cards, etc. It is only mildly abrasive but does a great job of removing grime, etc.
HTH

Browsenow - excellent idea. In fact it comes close to my blue-tack inventions. Well done!

Jupiter - Thanks! I have adapted pencil erasers to another problem for which your solution was BluTack . . . the missing external aerial cover. I found a pencil eraser that was the same diameter as the aerial (antenna for those of us in the US) connector hole, chopped it off and inserted it. It has the added benefit of being firm and slightly longer than the hole, so it provides stability when the device is laying on the desk.
Oh well . . . I guess I need to find something more interesting to fill my days . . . like making my imate work as a TV remote so I don't have to wrench the actual remote from the Mrs. :wink:

Are you trying to say that the rubber solution is better than the blue-tack solution! I vouchsafed you the honour of saying that it came close. Dont throw that back at me. !
Blue-Tack is better because
1. Its sticky
2. Its blue
3. You can use it to stick things
4. In an emergency you can take it out of the XDA and stick a note to the fridge
5. In the event of being bored you can make a baby teddy with it
What can rubber do apart from rub. :roll:
It was a 'good' idea but lets keep it at that

First of all, you did not say it was a 'good' idea - in fact you said it was an 'excellent' idea. As for BluTack . . . if you use it too many times it will be neither blue nor sticky!
As for the eraser, it is better because -
1. It is firm
2. It is NOT blue
3. It can erase things
4. In an emergency you can . . . um, you can . . . :?
5. In the event of being bored you can use it to CARVE a baby teddy - well a really tiny one!
Ha! Long live the eraser 8)

Now your just being silly!
Where are my blue-tack buddies when I need them?

They have all abandoned you and are out searching for various sizes, shapes and colors (colours?) of ERASERS!
They should start their search here: http://www.staples.com/Catalog/Browse/Sku.asp?PageType=1&Sku=507053

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AARRGGHHH!! I've just lost my SD from my Exec

I've only had the Exec for a week and I've had to secure the SD card a few times where it's been accidentally been clicked out. I've just tried to save a doc and noticed that it's missing! :evil: :evil: :evil:
What a crud design. Surely there should be a cover over the memory card slot?
I do love my Exec, but right now I could launch it out the window!!! :evil:
Sorry, just had to vent!
BTW, great forum. Loads of useful info for a new user.
Tis a bad design.
I suggest a little 3M ghost cellotape over the slot. Keeps it in, dust out, and doesn't look to cr*p (it's transparent)
V
Hey Vijay,
I think you're right. I'll do that, just as soon as I get my new card. At least I've got a good excuse to get a 2gb card now. :wink:
Jud
Guys, this might be a problem in need of a good solution either way. Just looked into my slot (!) and there's a lot of dust. Although the slot looks enclosed internally, we had big problems with SPV phones getting dusty through open slots in the old days...
V
I've absolutely no problems with my Qtek 9000, the SD-card is firmly fitted within the device.
When I want to remove it I have to press firmly and push it back at least 1,5 mm so I'm not afraid of losing it.
Maybe it is a problem with your device?
vijay555 said:
Tis a bad design.
I suggest a little 3M ghost cellotape over the slot. Keeps it in, dust out, and doesn't look to cr*p (it's transparent)
V
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Or maybe this.
Just for my 1gb card protection and answering the phone like the xda2 ( without opening it).
Hye, don't get me wrong, I don't use this idea myself, because I switch SD and wireless (between my magician and universal).
But I think generally, a small rubber flap over the SD flap would have been a good design. I think the Orange models have this feature.
V
This happend to me days after I got mine. The problem is that the SD slot is on the bottom. You put it in a pocket that has something in it, coins keys postage stamps , and it depresses the SD card. You pull it out your pocket not realizing and the SD card falls out. :evil:
Cya
Stot

MicroSD card slot

Hi
I took out the dummy SD card in the slot by the usual methods of gently pushing and it pops out, I then inserted (the correct way round) my new 2Gb card which sounded to click in place correctly although it is now stuck and doesnt pop out the same way the dummy one did (I did not apply any hard pressure). I presume this isnt how its supposed to work and the mechanism has faulted, has anyone else had this problem?
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Vario II
luppy said:
Hi
I took out the dummy SD card in the slot by the usual methods of gently pushing and it pops out, I then inserted (the correct way round) my new 2Gb card which sounded to click in place correctly although it is now stuck and doesnt pop out the same way the dummy one did (I did not apply any hard pressure). I presume this isnt how its supposed to work and the mechanism has faulted, has anyone else had this problem?
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Vario II
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did you insert the microSD with contacts upside?
I had a similar problem when I first inserted a brand new A-Data 2GB MicroSD. But I've managed to take it back finally, gently pushing and popping it in and out. Then I've found superfluous plastic on the card, removed it, and since then there are no problems. So don't worry about the slot itself until you're sure it is broken
I am having the same problem. I am sure it is in there correctly, as I can access it. However, I can't get it OUT. HELP!!
jeffreyj900 said:
I am having the same problem. I am sure it is in there correctly, as I can access it. However, I can't get it OUT. HELP!!
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If you put it the card in upside down it goes in crooked. If you force it you risk breaking the card.
If you push the card in all the way it clicks gently as it slips in then is retained. If you push the card gently with your fingernail it should go in slightly then pop out.
If you push it in and it goes in by a mm or so but doesn't pop out then something is holding it back. You can try with some needles or safety pins either side to try and ease the card out....
Good Luck. Scary when you've invested so much into these things when they break
HI,
I had / have the same problem with my new mda vario II. If you look under the battery next to the slot is a small white piece of plastic in a runner. If you gently push that outwards towards the edge of the phone the card will eject. Use a pin or a paper clip.
Could some explain where the excess plastic on the card is so i can fix my card.
Also i am using a Sandisk card if that make anydiff.
Dave
dmj1973 said:
HI,
I had / have the same problem with my new mda vario II. If you look under the battery next to the slot is a small white piece of plastic in a runner. If you gently push that outwards towards the edge of the phone the card will eject. Use a pin or a paper clip.
Could some explain where the excess plastic on the card is so i can fix my card.
Also i am using a Sandisk card if that make anydiff.
Dave
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Dave,
You are a VERY SMART man! I really appreciate that. Mine is a 2gb SanDisk as well. I have a Cingular 8525. I had it in the correct way, and was able to use the card just fine. It bothered me that I could not get it out though. I really appreciate the response! Oh... I removed the made in Tiawan sticker on the back of the card to see if that would help. It did not, but did expose some copper looking stuff like at the end of the card. No big deal
Jeff
Dead SanDisk.
I also had the problem of a stuck 2Gb Sandisk card in a Vario II.
The card was displaying the same problems described in Legolas's card fix thread, (files disappearing or innaccessable) so I was going to check it on my PC.
Unfortunately, in the process of gently persuading it to come out, I appear to have completely killed it! (Unrecognisable in phone, PC or camera.)
I'm going to try painting the contacts on the card with silver paint in case they're not making contact, but I don't fancy digging inside the phone to bend the contacts there.
Any thoughts anyone?
In the meantime I'll wait and see if the 4Gb card is compatible with the Hermes before I order a replacement.
Is this a problem with Sandisk cards, I wonder? Had no problems at all with a 1Gb Kinston card... pop in a new Sandisk 2Gb, and sticks. Didn't shave off any plastic though, just caught hold of the groove on the edge with a fingernail and pulled on it enough to seat it into the proper 'inserted' position.
After inserting it in the slot a few times, it seems to click into place as it should
@dmj1973: Have you updated the Wiki with the info on ejecting a stuck card? Would be useful to have it there, if it isn't already
dmj1973 said:
HI,
I had / have the same problem with my new mda vario II. If you look under the battery next to the slot is a small white piece of plastic in a runner. If you gently push that outwards towards the edge of the phone the card will eject. Use a pin or a paper clip.
Could some explain where the excess plastic on the card is so i can fix my card.
Also i am using a Sandisk card if that make anydiff.
Dave
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Excellent solution.
I've got a 2 gb SanDisk in a Vodafone 1605 with no insertion/removal problems.
(hee, in past life got quite adept at dismantling my iPaq 5555 to get stuck adapters out)
GG
Hi guys,
Just a quick update. I had a further look at my card. I also removed the "made in Taiwan" sticker. My card ejects and inserts fine now.
Your right about the "contacts" being exposed, though i suspect this won't matter too much as they are covered again once they are inserted into the phone.
I don't believe this to be a problem only with sandisk cards but i may be wrong.
Dave
it seems that im a lucky dog because i have never got this problem with my softbank device and kingmax 1g tfcard.
anyhow thx the info upstairs
dmj1973 you saved my day!
today my transcent 16gb microsd arrived. i took the (kind of useless) 128mb out of my acer m900, and suddenly i wasnt able to get either of my micro sd's back into the device! it always jammed half way in ... drove me ****ing crazy thinking my new pda already broke :/ wasted the half day beeing mad until i found this thread! i red until "battery" ... then instantly removed the cover/battery etc, and my cards no longer jammed! -can get them in&out gently again thx 2 you!
seaser

My Memory Card wont stay in anymore :'(

Anyone know why ??? It just wont click in anymore... I woke up one day and it was just sticking out - Ive tried jamming it in but its just not reading it!!
Anyone have any problems like this before ? All my stuff os on the card :'(
Only replying so you dont feel alone. But 1st off check if anyone broke inside it, Anything stuck? I could suggest opening it if you have the tools to check it out and maybe fix it if its not latching right.
Also you can still get a adapter at radioshack for the mini sd. I did. It was 20$ came with SD, Mini SD and Micro SD all in one. So least you could get your stuff. =)
Mem Card
Does it work if you hold it in? If so, I didn't like that mine came out occasionally so I hot glued it in. Hold it in, run a small bead of hot glue on top wait a sec and press the glue into place with your thumb. The glue wont run into the phone and it's easy enough to remove when you actually want it out. If your careful you can even heat it a little with a hair dryer to smooth out the glue. Personally, I don't ever take mine out. I had problems with the device not recognizing my files after removal. I install most everything to the SD that works right there.
**Try this at your own risk. I've done it several times and never had a problem. Just don't blame me if you break something.**
You can apply a thin layer of sticking tape around it to keep it firmly in the slot,but make sure you don't cover the connections with it.It'll stick in there and work proper.
Cheers
It just doesnt seem to be reading it at all - But when I plugged in into my wii all the music is still on it and it seems to be working fine.
When I try and jam in my old card it flashing for a second to say would you like to format the card so it must be working kinda... Argh!
Its really annoying - I used it as an mp3 player quite a lot and theres just not enough internal space...
Hopefully it will fix itself soon as that appears to be the only hope
I'm wondering if maybe the mech is loose and pushed inside. May take a little surgery. If I remember right there is some sort of spring loaded mech that keeps pressure on the card connections while in the slot.

Mini-sd slot broke

Today I removed my minisd card and put it back in shortly after, but something went horribly wrong
Somehow I broke the thing that holds the card in position so now it wont stick in.. so I tried to make it stuck in with a paper which works but it doesn't get recognized then, I guess the mechanism which holds the card always turns on a switch thats tells my wizard to start reading the card
Does anyone got any idea to fix it, cause this sux big time (I bought the phone a few months ago for €200), I cant find my receipt but ill try to get a copy of the shop .
Im so pissed right now
Nobody knows, the warranty is overdue
Could I open the phone and maybe fix it myself?
I got the service manual but not the tools, anyone ever seen the inside of the phone, would it even be possible to fix it?
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similar problem
Hi there
i had a similar problem - had to buy another htc 8125 and unfortunately it came with a broken slot for the minisd card. At first i thought i wasn't pressing the card enough for the thing to click and hold it. Then i realised it was broken. As far as i could see from the little opening there was a white slider which is pushed down by the wider side of the minisd card. It has a spring behind it and somehow it has to click in down position and hold the card.
i tried to push it down with a very very small screwdriver and understand the way it worked. With my bad luck i pushed a little harder and broke that white slider. It just broke in the middle and one part stayed down and the other was pushed up by the spring. It broke exactly at the place where it was pushed by the memory card. So my card was not jumping anymore out - it just stayed in but was not recognised by the phone.
I didn't know what else to do so i found some instructions on how to open the phone and went for it with the hope to reach the memory card slot an hopefully fix it. HTC has taken good care of the stupid slot. It is soldered to the motherboard and nothing much could be done. There are 4 points that hold it but i didn't go that far to unsolder it (didn't know how many springs and other parts would jump out of it). Anyways - what i noticed was the following:
there are two small "plates" at the bottom of the slot. Wheny ou isnert the card they touch and i think this is what makes the slot active and knowing that there is a card in it. I had some dirt betwen them and that was preventing them from making a contact. After i removed that small piece of dirt and inserted the card it worked like a charm. It stays so tight in there now that i hardly can get it out - which is not that bad because i can always use the usb cable to transfer whatever i want.
I think i still have those manuals for opening the phone, so if you decide to go this far and can't find them i can send you an email.
Hope i was of any help
There's no need to open or disassemble the phone to repair the slot,just apply a thin layer of any adhesive tape around it but make sure you do not cover the connectors and insert the card firmly in the slot.
Cheers !
But well even if I push it in it doesnt get detected(I added a piece of paper to hold it in but it didnt detect it still).
I think ill buy a torx screwdriver and open it.
I'll still advise you to check the mini sd in some other phone,if it still doesn't get detected than get a new one or it may need to be reformatted.Opening up the phone might lead onto more problems.
Cheers !
zabardast_1 said:
I'll still advise you to check the mini sd in some other phone,if it still doesn't get detected than get a new one or it may need to be reformatted.Opening up the phone might lead onto more problems.
Cheers !
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I got a 2gb minisd and a 512mb minisd both dont work so im sure its the phones fault , they have always worked fine.

sd card door problem

The lower pin doesnt snap into place and if I press some on the top end of the door the lower end pops out easily. Is there a fix for that?
dunno but the sd card location is a pretty ****ty design.
i guess htc didnt want to have the same problem the ppc6700 had where the sd card would go flying out the phone randomly so on the touch they decided to bury it inside.
as for your original question, call htc they might offer some type of warranty if it's that bad. i usually rub my finger back and forth to push it into place. usually that method works if you're in bed too
SD card door
This has to be close to the WORST design ever, they certainly didn't make it easy. Couldn't they have a little slot on the outside where you push your stylus to release the micro SD?
In your situation you might need to use something like a bit of gum on the inside, sort of icky but, I can't see a way of replacing that tab thing.
After using a few different PPC's, I'll be honest, I don't mind it since I can throw my 8GB SDHC in this bad boy! All my music, a few movies, and a bunch of House.

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