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Will I be able to upgrade XDA's 2002 Version to 2003 when it's released in the next months ? :?:
No, at least not likely. Rumour has it that the new OS requires more than 32Mb of ROM. That is why the iPaq 3970 and 5450 (and a few others) carry 48Mb ROM.
Would we not be able to do a limited upgrade AKA the 3630 ipaq upgrade to 2002 and maybe add a few apps into ram ??
I hope so.
maybe also we can increase ROM size? does hardware supports this? As I know, RAM upgradeable on all MDAs/XDAs to 64Mb (and maybe more? I seen info but don't know how)
So if we'll got 48 or 64 of flash rom we can upgrade. But what 2003 system is will be? Can you give some infos about it?
Pocket PC 2003, codename Ozone, will primarily be a bug-fix release for Pocket PC 2002 with few enhancements. Users should not expect big changes.
Well i agree you may not notice many deffrence or changes but i was assured from people at Microsoft that majore changes within the OS will take place. I am not sure if they will ever be able the fix the bugs GOD knows each day we discover tonnes...
Anyways we should wait and see
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Why wouldn't it be possible to upgrade?
The amount of build-in ROM shouldnt be that much of a problem. Since PPC 2003 PE mainly features bugfixes that total size of the OS shouldn't have increased that much. Else it would be possible to install some application is RAM like they did for the iPAQ 36xx.
The only real reason I can think of is the lack of support from O2 and the other telco's that sell these devices.
Keep hoping!
Kamil
I think it is very possible to see XDA can upgrade to PPC 2003 phone edition, however the upgrade may not be free. I look forword to upgrade my T-Mobile MDA with a PPC 2003 O2 English ROM :twisted: .
Pocket PC 2003 Phone Edition
More About Pocket PC 2003
Microsoft recently gave developers an overview of the next version of its Pocket PC operating system. Codename Ozone, this will primarily be a bug-fix release for Pocket PC 2002 with a few enhancements.
Developers will have access to new tools to allow them to build applications that take fuller advantage of the XScale processors found in most of today's handhelds. However, these applications will not run under Pocket PC 2002. Of course, the reverse is not true, as Pocket PC 2003 will retain backward compatibility.
Microsoft has decided to postpone adding other new features, such as voiced control, until a .NET version of Pocket PC is completed -- expected in two to three years.
it will be possible to upgrade the 3870 too ...and it has the same amount of rom ...if i'm not wrong ...
Er... according to Microsoft sources, pocket PC 2003 phone edition runs on Windows CE 4.2 - this is more than a bug fix release!
2003
does anyone have a copy of the BETA version floating around?
IT works fine
I have hacked to HTC phone, parts are SX56 and parts are XDA, but I am running 2003 fine on it right now. There seems to be all sorts of little things, and some of the skins are much prettier, but other than that I don't notice anything huge.
Yeah, I am running Palm OS 6 in my reconstruted XDA with 256M ram and Amd Opteron processor too. It is extermely fast, as fast as my Desktop computer.
hehe :lol:
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Yeah, I am running Palm OS 6 in my reconstruted XDA with 256M ram and Amd Opteron processor too. It is extermely fast, as fast as my Desktop computer.
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Thats not rue, ist it?
WOuöd br the best solution
Sorry, my BT-Desktop´s Battery was empty :shock:
YESSSS!!!
xda with PocketPC2003 is a reality! At least one such device was received by local pda-related software company for review. I have no details about current devices upgrade availability, though.
The only fact is: PocketPC2003 for xda exists and should be pre-installed to new devices after OS will be presented by Microsoft.
I have it on good authority that it is feasible to put PC2003 onto Xda, however this will only happen for evaluation purposes and is unlikely to be available as a general upgrade.
Hi all!
I have a basicaly question, what is the benefit for xdaI upgrade to WM2003? :?:
If I have a way xda SD port upgrade to SD IO support, I really want to use WM2003 and I will enjoy bluetooth/WiFi through SD IO optional product.
Anybody please tell me, Can I cange SD port upgrade to SD IO support? How difficult to do so? How much I have to pay?
Thank you for all
No upgrade to sdio. You can try the upgrade, if you dont like it just restore your original rom.
sdio cant be added to the xda1 at least not using software
maybe if one could find a sdio chip to replace the sd reader chip which have the same connectors and solver it on
and reprogram the whole rom but i doubt it
from 2002 to 2003 on xda1 is little to be gained from imho
sure some programs need 2003 to run
but many programs made for 2002 dont run on 2003
i did the upgrade yesterday
WM2003
Reason's to upgrade:
1) Read this link: http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/articles.php?action=expand,16788
2) GPRS is faster. The TMO RS6.24.01 that comes with the RUU4.01.00 support GRPS class 8 (4R1T) & 10 (3R2T). That receive & transmit GSM channels.
3) All PPC2002 program works with WM2003 ! In fact, most programs will work better work WM2003. CE4.2 is far more stable, less buggy than CE3.0 in PPC2002. Point taken, Vindigo crashed all the time on PPC2002 but runs crash free on WM2003. Per the link above, WM2003 (CE4.2) was written for the StrongARM processor which is what PPC2002 was too. Intel's XScale processor is compatible with SA but the Microsoft CE4.2 code is not optimized for XScale. You'll see some metrics run faster on a 205MHz SA than 400MHz XScale.
I just got a iMate XDA2 (400MHz XScale) and I don't notice a performance improvement on the same applications I ran on my 205MHz SA XDA1.
If you do upgrade to TMO ROM4.01.00, RS6.24.01, it will be with an .exe file that upgrades both ROM & RS. Get yourself a SD card reader/writer (~$20) & a spare 64M SD card in case the upgrade screws up, then you use the Wallaby bootloader to do the install via the SD card.
Best of luck
2) GPRS is faster. The TMO RS6.24.01 that comes with the RUU4.01.00 support GRPS class 8 (4R1T) & 10 (3R2T). That receive & transmit GSM channels.
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well unless he use the US gsm system 900/1900 then upgrading to that radio stack would be a very very very bad idea
3) All PPC2002 program works with WM2003 ! In fact, most programs will work better work WM2003. CE4.2 is far more stable, less buggy than CE3.0 in PPC2002. Point taken, Vindigo crashed all the time on PPC2002 but runs crash free on WM2003. Per the link above, WM2003 (CE4.2) was written for the StrongARM processor which is what PPC2002 was too. Intel's XScale processor is compatible with SA but the Microsoft CE4.2 code is not optimized for XScale. You'll see some metrics run faster on a 205MHz SA than 400MHz XScale.
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well there are many many applications which dont! work on wm2003 but does on 2002
i could find many examples of this here is just one before version 1.6 this program did not work on 2003
http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/todaysinfo.shtml
and just searching this forum give many results of people finding programs which dont work on 2003
and they having to pay for new versions of programs to get it to run on 2003
Rudegar said:
2) GPRS is faster. The TMO RS6.24.01 that comes with the RUU4.01.00 support GRPS class 8 (4R1T) & 10 (3R2T). That receive & transmit GSM channels.
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well unless he use the US gsm system 900/1900 then upgrading to that radio stack would be a very very very bad idea
3) All PPC2002 program works with WM2003 ! In fact, most programs will work better work WM2003. CE4.2 is far more stable, less buggy than CE3.0 in PPC2002. Point taken, Vindigo crashed all the time on PPC2002 but runs crash free on WM2003. Per the link above, WM2003 (CE4.2) was written for the StrongARM processor which is what PPC2002 was too. Intel's XScale processor is compatible with SA but the Microsoft CE4.2 code is not optimized for XScale. You'll see some metrics run faster on a 205MHz SA than 400MHz XScale.
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well there are many many applications which dont! work on wm2003 but does on 2002
i could find many examples of this here is just one before version 1.6 this program did not work on 2003
http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/todaysinfo.shtml
and just searching this forum give many results of people finding programs which dont work on 2003
and they having to pay for new versions of programs to get it to run on 2003
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Understand. I had Lotus EasySync Pro with PPC2002 but did not work with WM2003. Needed an upgrade which they would charge full price. No upgrade policy at Lotus. Screw em. So I went with CommonTime mNotes (Cadenza) for my sync software.
Yes there can be cases, especially with the word "freeware" that could bite you. WM2003 uses the registry completely now whereas PPC2002 didn't use muchof the registry. Apps could install and work without registry entrys. Those app's types probably will bite you.
Thanks for the clarification and feedback.
I have the SX56 and waiting for the hopeful WM2003 official upgrade through Siemens. I don't want to take chances cooking my own ROM.
I've read this thread with interest with regard to the worth of upgrading.
I know there are issues with programs that don't work, and I guess I'll just have to wait and see. I will be eager to use Microsoft voice command.
The last I heard, the latest tentative date for the official Siemens release is supposed to be by Monday, but who knows? (I read this on another forum, so I am not stating this as fact at all!)
Thank you for all reply
I understood I can not change to SD IO suport basicaly
So I have to re-investigate for upgrade to WM2003 now.
I think ROM upgrade is a very risky work for me.
many thanks all of reply again
I want upgrade/downgrade my O2.
help me!!!
there is also 2003SE
not sure which are the best
some people report some versions
of 2003 deleting their SD cards though
other then that it all mostly comes down to
look and feel
and a few applications which would not run on
2002
thank
Rudegar said:
there is also 2003SE
not sure which are the best
some people report some versions
of 2003 deleting their SD cards though
other then that it all mostly comes down to
look and feel
and a few applications which would not run on
2002
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your favorites (2002, 2003)? some people tell ROM 2003 is 4.01.12?
Im not need app for 2002.more soft free in pocketfreeware... is good.
2003SE, my O2 is GSM low, Ram small!!!
Thank!!!
i will test 2003 again!
4.02.04 ENG Qtek from http://www.romkitchen.de/ I tried to cook - and after 9 versions, I've prepare best one for myself.
Hi. This may sound a bit weird, but I would like to put WM6 Professional on my non-phone pda. I am just wondering if i could. I have upgraded it to WM6 Classic using this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329079&page=7&highlight=copenhagen
what benefit do you really think this would give you?
I would just like to experience the phone edition of Windows Mobile.
what are the advantages/disadvantages of wm2003 / wm6.1? which one is much better? coz for me, wm 6.1 is really nice but i miss the storage memory on wm3..so i'm thinking of downgrading to wm3...so i would like your opinion about the 2 roms/versions..
I have the same dilemma, wm 6 is slower but much nicer... I don't know many other advantages...
advantage of WM6 is that there are a lot of cool new third party applications available for WM6 while 2003 has a few really old ones and not many new ones being released anymore.
hmmm....how about WM5 then?
I forgot the most important difference between 2003 and WM5 and 6. Persistent memory. Meaning if you run out of power your data will not be erased in WM5 and WM6. Between 5 and 6.1 the most obvious difference would be threaded SMS.
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I forgot the most important difference between 2003 and WM5 and 6. Persistent memory. Meaning if you run out of power your data will not be erased in WM5 and WM6. Between 5 and 6.1 the most obvious difference would be threaded SMS.
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ok..what i only like w/ 2003 is the storage capacity..it's far more better than wm6.1 but i could live with that..
WM 6
Hi i bought my first htc himalaya (02 XDA II) off ebay for 80 quid two months ago and it was running wm2003. Cause im only 12 i thought it would be great but i was let down by the interface and there wasnt much on it. So i decided to do some research on later versions of wm. And found that on 6 there are a lot more things on offer. So i said "sod it im gona update the system" and i did twice with diffrent versions and found the one i liked. Since then i have played COD 2 on it with NO LAG! So i think it is THE best!