I want upgrade/downgrade my O2.
help me!!!
there is also 2003SE
not sure which are the best
some people report some versions
of 2003 deleting their SD cards though
other then that it all mostly comes down to
look and feel
and a few applications which would not run on
2002
thank
Rudegar said:
there is also 2003SE
not sure which are the best
some people report some versions
of 2003 deleting their SD cards though
other then that it all mostly comes down to
look and feel
and a few applications which would not run on
2002
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your favorites (2002, 2003)? some people tell ROM 2003 is 4.01.12?
Im not need app for 2002.more soft free in pocketfreeware... is good.
2003SE, my O2 is GSM low, Ram small!!!
Thank!!!
i will test 2003 again!
4.02.04 ENG Qtek from http://www.romkitchen.de/ I tried to cook - and after 9 versions, I've prepare best one for myself.
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Hi all!
I have a basicaly question, what is the benefit for xdaI upgrade to WM2003? :?:
If I have a way xda SD port upgrade to SD IO support, I really want to use WM2003 and I will enjoy bluetooth/WiFi through SD IO optional product.
Anybody please tell me, Can I cange SD port upgrade to SD IO support? How difficult to do so? How much I have to pay?
Thank you for all
No upgrade to sdio. You can try the upgrade, if you dont like it just restore your original rom.
sdio cant be added to the xda1 at least not using software
maybe if one could find a sdio chip to replace the sd reader chip which have the same connectors and solver it on
and reprogram the whole rom but i doubt it
from 2002 to 2003 on xda1 is little to be gained from imho
sure some programs need 2003 to run
but many programs made for 2002 dont run on 2003
i did the upgrade yesterday
WM2003
Reason's to upgrade:
1) Read this link: http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/articles.php?action=expand,16788
2) GPRS is faster. The TMO RS6.24.01 that comes with the RUU4.01.00 support GRPS class 8 (4R1T) & 10 (3R2T). That receive & transmit GSM channels.
3) All PPC2002 program works with WM2003 ! In fact, most programs will work better work WM2003. CE4.2 is far more stable, less buggy than CE3.0 in PPC2002. Point taken, Vindigo crashed all the time on PPC2002 but runs crash free on WM2003. Per the link above, WM2003 (CE4.2) was written for the StrongARM processor which is what PPC2002 was too. Intel's XScale processor is compatible with SA but the Microsoft CE4.2 code is not optimized for XScale. You'll see some metrics run faster on a 205MHz SA than 400MHz XScale.
I just got a iMate XDA2 (400MHz XScale) and I don't notice a performance improvement on the same applications I ran on my 205MHz SA XDA1.
If you do upgrade to TMO ROM4.01.00, RS6.24.01, it will be with an .exe file that upgrades both ROM & RS. Get yourself a SD card reader/writer (~$20) & a spare 64M SD card in case the upgrade screws up, then you use the Wallaby bootloader to do the install via the SD card.
Best of luck
2) GPRS is faster. The TMO RS6.24.01 that comes with the RUU4.01.00 support GRPS class 8 (4R1T) & 10 (3R2T). That receive & transmit GSM channels.
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well unless he use the US gsm system 900/1900 then upgrading to that radio stack would be a very very very bad idea
3) All PPC2002 program works with WM2003 ! In fact, most programs will work better work WM2003. CE4.2 is far more stable, less buggy than CE3.0 in PPC2002. Point taken, Vindigo crashed all the time on PPC2002 but runs crash free on WM2003. Per the link above, WM2003 (CE4.2) was written for the StrongARM processor which is what PPC2002 was too. Intel's XScale processor is compatible with SA but the Microsoft CE4.2 code is not optimized for XScale. You'll see some metrics run faster on a 205MHz SA than 400MHz XScale.
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well there are many many applications which dont! work on wm2003 but does on 2002
i could find many examples of this here is just one before version 1.6 this program did not work on 2003
http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/todaysinfo.shtml
and just searching this forum give many results of people finding programs which dont work on 2003
and they having to pay for new versions of programs to get it to run on 2003
Rudegar said:
2) GPRS is faster. The TMO RS6.24.01 that comes with the RUU4.01.00 support GRPS class 8 (4R1T) & 10 (3R2T). That receive & transmit GSM channels.
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well unless he use the US gsm system 900/1900 then upgrading to that radio stack would be a very very very bad idea
3) All PPC2002 program works with WM2003 ! In fact, most programs will work better work WM2003. CE4.2 is far more stable, less buggy than CE3.0 in PPC2002. Point taken, Vindigo crashed all the time on PPC2002 but runs crash free on WM2003. Per the link above, WM2003 (CE4.2) was written for the StrongARM processor which is what PPC2002 was too. Intel's XScale processor is compatible with SA but the Microsoft CE4.2 code is not optimized for XScale. You'll see some metrics run faster on a 205MHz SA than 400MHz XScale.
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well there are many many applications which dont! work on wm2003 but does on 2002
i could find many examples of this here is just one before version 1.6 this program did not work on 2003
http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/todaysinfo.shtml
and just searching this forum give many results of people finding programs which dont work on 2003
and they having to pay for new versions of programs to get it to run on 2003
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Understand. I had Lotus EasySync Pro with PPC2002 but did not work with WM2003. Needed an upgrade which they would charge full price. No upgrade policy at Lotus. Screw em. So I went with CommonTime mNotes (Cadenza) for my sync software.
Yes there can be cases, especially with the word "freeware" that could bite you. WM2003 uses the registry completely now whereas PPC2002 didn't use muchof the registry. Apps could install and work without registry entrys. Those app's types probably will bite you.
Thanks for the clarification and feedback.
I have the SX56 and waiting for the hopeful WM2003 official upgrade through Siemens. I don't want to take chances cooking my own ROM.
I've read this thread with interest with regard to the worth of upgrading.
I know there are issues with programs that don't work, and I guess I'll just have to wait and see. I will be eager to use Microsoft voice command.
The last I heard, the latest tentative date for the official Siemens release is supposed to be by Monday, but who knows? (I read this on another forum, so I am not stating this as fact at all!)
Thank you for all reply
I understood I can not change to SD IO suport basicaly
So I have to re-investigate for upgrade to WM2003 now.
I think ROM upgrade is a very risky work for me.
many thanks all of reply again
Any body know that? Waht is th diference? Please help :roll:
Those who did not upgrade because they couldn't see any difference will tell you that there is no difference; those who did upgrade will tell you it's worth the upgrade because it costs you nothing but a few minutes, and at the very least lets you install software that is for PPC2003 only (as well as other benefits I won't go into)...
I really don't know where you are trying to go with such a question, you make your own justification to upgrade, otherwise DON'T!
some programs dont work with 2002 if made for 2003 like ms voice commander or what ever it's called
2003 also add 2 volume sliders one for phone and one for pda
and i think it support midi and wma ring tones aswell where 2002 only support wav
2003 also has some sort of bug in it that keeps erasing my freakin' sda card!
How do I go back to 2002?
flashing a xda1 back and forth is easy using the sd card flash way
Anyone tried a Pocket PC 2003 lately? I was just dug my XDA IIs out of the cupboard - runs so bloody fast!! Switch between programs and settings its all instant. Puts the Hermes and WM5/6 to shame.
Dos also fast, but when it comes to function...
And the programs for ppc2003 are also getting fewer everyday.
One important difference between WM2003 and later versions of WM is the type of flash memory used. WM2003 uses NOR flash which allows XIP (execute in place), i.e. it behaves like RAM and programs can be executed directly from it. WM5 and later uses NAND flash, which behaves like a disk, i.e. programs have to be copied into RAM before executing. This copying slows down the OS.
This can't be accurate because WM2003 devices had WM5 upgrades.
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This can't be accurate because WM2003 devices had WM5 upgrades.
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Only a few with newer flash technology!
indiekiduk said:
This can't be accurate because WM2003 devices had WM5 upgrades.
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You got me! Sorry, don't believe a word I said in my previous post!
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This can't be accurate because WM2003 devices had WM5 upgrades.
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As posters have said above, Certain devices had the flash memory type available to allow a WM5 upgrade (most likely something built in as an upgradeable thing at the time before WM5 was rolled out).
This was something I remember reading about before buying my TyTN.
Hey men,
I just want to ask how is it with aplications for wm2003 compatibility with ppc2002.
Is there any good site for wm2003 only? Or appz list... I realize theres not much for wm2003 yet-
in most cases applications works from pocketpc 2000 to wm6.1 if they are arm based that is
what are the advantages/disadvantages of wm2003 / wm6.1? which one is much better? coz for me, wm 6.1 is really nice but i miss the storage memory on wm3..so i'm thinking of downgrading to wm3...so i would like your opinion about the 2 roms/versions..
I have the same dilemma, wm 6 is slower but much nicer... I don't know many other advantages...
advantage of WM6 is that there are a lot of cool new third party applications available for WM6 while 2003 has a few really old ones and not many new ones being released anymore.
hmmm....how about WM5 then?
I forgot the most important difference between 2003 and WM5 and 6. Persistent memory. Meaning if you run out of power your data will not be erased in WM5 and WM6. Between 5 and 6.1 the most obvious difference would be threaded SMS.
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I forgot the most important difference between 2003 and WM5 and 6. Persistent memory. Meaning if you run out of power your data will not be erased in WM5 and WM6. Between 5 and 6.1 the most obvious difference would be threaded SMS.
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ok..what i only like w/ 2003 is the storage capacity..it's far more better than wm6.1 but i could live with that..
WM 6
Hi i bought my first htc himalaya (02 XDA II) off ebay for 80 quid two months ago and it was running wm2003. Cause im only 12 i thought it would be great but i was let down by the interface and there wasnt much on it. So i decided to do some research on later versions of wm. And found that on 6 there are a lot more things on offer. So i said "sod it im gona update the system" and i did twice with diffrent versions and found the one i liked. Since then i have played COD 2 on it with NO LAG! So i think it is THE best!