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radio downgrade needed

can anyone help please?
I have updated my UK O2 Xda to radio version 4.21 and am having the same problems some of the members are posting about.
loss of signal, not searching when reset, etc
can i downgrade?
and if so, does anyone have and older UK O2 radio version i can downgrade to ?
Thanks in advance
Chris (Species)

radio downgrade update
Thanks for the many replies
update as follows
i found an old radio stack update and rom.
back flashed the rom, but the radio stack downgrade fails every time.
please has someone any ideas on how to downgrade the radio stack
this loss of signal and poor reception is annoying to say the least.
thanks in advance.
Chris (species)

species_8472 said:
can anyone help please?
I have updated my UK O2 Xda to radio version 4.21 and am having the same problems some of the members are posting about.
loss of signal, not searching when reset, etc
can i downgrade?
and if so, does anyone have and older UK O2 radio version i can downgrade to ?
Thanks in advance
Chris (Species)
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Sorry to say that a lot of user is stuck with this RSU 4.21 including me, Which can't downgrade back to older version. You might need to wait for newer version.
Friendly speaking only saw a post from this forum that ONE person manage to revert back the RSU. :wink:

:lol:
On my xda (MDA from T-Mobile Germany) I made a complete update with RUU & RSU from this file "4.00.10 - official-tmo2003.rar". After that I experienced same probs as any (?) other European user. So I decided to switch back: I downloaded my old 3.23 RSU from T-Mobile Germany (http://www.t-mobile.de/downloads/software/t_mobile_mda_gsm_gprs_update_v3_23.exe and installed it. While installing to my desktop I ignored an error that says I am trying to install an older version and I should not do that blablabla. It automatically installs (copies) every needed file to the xda via ActiveSync add/remove software dialog.
The updateprogram starts automatically on the xda. It goes slowly to 100% without any error but after a self-performed soft reset it starts again?! So I looked in the StartUp folder and there it was: the program rsuupdate... Incorrectly it was still there, so I deleted it myself.
Now I have a RUU V 4.00.10 ENG with PW10B1 (on my german PW10A1) and a RSU V 3.23. It's running more stable than everytime before.
Chris

Thanks for the post Chris, I just tried that solution but my O2 Xda just hangs when trying to install the T-Mobile upgrade with an error message in german. it was worth a try though.

error message
The error says "Wenn ein Upgrade durchgefuhrt wird mussen sie das Gerat vom Strommetz trennen"

just sussed the error. it must mean take the pda out of the cradle .... doh
its upgrading now. ill let you know it its fixed the prblem. cheers

looks like it worked it logged onto the network straight away. ill keep an eye on it, and keep you updated.
Thanks for the info your a STAR.
Chris (species)

I just came back in from garden, where I were lying in the sun and planning the barbecue for tonight. 8) Great weather here but unfortunately today is my last day of holiday
Yes, the error message says " While upgrading you must disconnect your device from the power line."
Thanks for the info your a STAR.
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I'm glad I could help you. And some others too?! Thanks to xda-developers.com! :lol:
Chris

update
new problem.
After turning the phone part off, I find that I cant turn it back on again. if I reflash with 4.21 the phone turns on but again the no signal problem comes back
When I say phone part, what I mean is the pda works fine just the phone connection
glad the weather is nice for you .. here in the UK North East coast we are having heavy rain and thunder storms. its nice n cool though and gives me an excuse to sit here and check out the new threads.

here in the UK North East coast we are having heavy rain and thunder storms
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Uh, that sounds not good.. We have 30 °C (86 °F) and a lot of sun.
Which RSU did you use? The german one from T-Mobile.de? I suppose it is optimized in any way. Try the English one at http://www.o2.co.uk/personal/xda/docs/Radio_Stack_Upgrade_v421.zip
Chris (meanwhile outside in the sun with laptop and WLAN)

T-Mobile versions don't have GPRS 4+1 AFAIK...

Chris.
yep I used the T-mobile one in your origional post and it works fine until you turn of the radio part on the pda. The alternative link you suggested is the one that has the big problems radio stack v4.21 from O2 Uk.
no worries, ill just have to wait until O2 uk sort out the bugs
thanks for all the advice much apreciated
Chris (species)

RSU problems...
I also had some problems after upgrading to 4.21 (including not seeing my home network!!!).
I went into the bootloader and siwtched to DualBand GSM 900/1800, and then everything worked again. BUT then you NEVER go anymore in the menu BAND of your settings or it will switch you back to old config.
Give it a try,
Laurent

Thanks Ill give that a try and keep everyone posted on the situation
Chris (species)

Still the same im afraid,
looks like I will be waiting for O2 to do some bug fixing and releasing an update. Unless anyone knows better ?

Which is a recent / suitable ROM and Radio upgrade for QTEK

Hello folks,
QTEK 1010 bought from Dubai
Model PW10A1
ROM version 3.16.52 ENG
ROM Date 03/10/03
Radio version 3.19.01
Protocol version 32S54
My questions: -
For me, which is a suitable upgrade...
From www.myxda.com:-
ROM version 3.20.06
Radio version 4.21
OR
From www.carrierdevices.com.au:-
CE Upgrade File : RUU_CEv3.18.04wwe_Qtek_SHIP.exe
Radio Upgrade File : RSUv1.15_(GPRS_T32500_ENG).exe]
Thanks
Faisal

Re: Which is a recent / suitable ROM and Radio upgrade for Q
faisal said:
Hello folks,
QTEK 1010 bought from Dubai
Model PW10A1
ROM version 3.16.52 ENG
ROM Date 03/10/03
Radio version 3.19.01
Protocol version 32S54
My questions: -
For me, which is a suitable upgrade...
From www.myxda.com:-
ROM version 3.20.06
Radio version 4.21
OR
From www.carrierdevices.com.au:-
CE Upgrade File : RUU_CEv3.18.04wwe_Qtek_SHIP.exe
Radio Upgrade File : RSUv1.15_(GPRS_T32500_ENG).exe]
Thanks
Faisal
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You may use any ROM Updgrade, you may even want to cook your own ROM, but please do not think of performing a radio stack upgrade if your present radio is working well and giving you a trouble free service.

Hi guys,
I 'm in same situation but with higher versions, and can hardly wait to get a new 2003 ROM.
I can't just play with my XDA as I use it all the time for work and it's pretty stable so far. I just also can't tell that the ROM is 'totally' separate from the RUU in WM2003.
So the question is: is there any one here who has gone through a 2003 upgrade for Qtek 1010 to tell us his thoughts after the upgrade ?
I read a lot about the stability of 4.00.16 ENG, but all been written was for O2 R4.21 or T-Mobile R6.xx. Did any one in this region (Mid East) with R 3.2x went into this upgrade ? and what is the current status ?
Thanx all ....

Latest ...
I tried upgrading to 4.00.11 ENG from the kitchen ... no matter how many trys it just restarts and gives the same error message "Can't open USB/com port ..." ...
Do I miss anything ??

more update ...
Tried to cook the new ROM as .nb1 file and used Xdatools from the kitchen to flash my device .... same result :? :evil:
Is it possible that there is a ROM protection on my XDA ??? :shock:

Biso007 said:
more update ...
Tried to cook the new ROM as .nb1 file and used Xdatools from the kitchen to flash my device .... same result :? :evil:
Is it possible that there is a ROM protection on my XDA ??? :shock:
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Hi Biso007,
Look at the IDIOTS GUIDE at:
http://www.xda-developers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3171
and follow the instructions thoroughly one by one and you can't go wrong, it did work for me, I was in the same situation.

Samohile - Thanks. It is good advice to not mess with the radio if you can help it.
My only problem is that my device periodically shuts off. Then pressing the power button soft boots it. I cant tell for sure but it seems that this happens after an incoming or missed call. It seems that other friends using ROM 3.18.04 and Radio 3.25.01 (like our friend biso007 here) seem to have very stable systems.
I can try upgrading the ROM only and see what happens but the information at www.carrierdevices.com seems to imply that both ought to be upgraded at the same time. I notice it is an Australian site. Does that matter? Also, the version of the radio upgrade is a bit confusing, at least from its name. (Radio Upgrade File : RSUv1.15_(GPRS_T32500_ENG).exe] ). I wonder what this RSUv1.15 translates into since the name of the exe file for the ROM is nicely descriptive of the version (3.18.04).
Any advice in this would be very welcome..

Well i am using WM2003 4.00.11 and its working fine for me no problem i cooked in the kitchen you just need to read arround this great forum for a whgile on topics such as upgrades and ROM to know exactly what you are dealing with and then you will able to upgrade smoothly.
:wink:

Hi ARZLEB
I read lots and lots about upgrade lessons but none of them worked for me .... I got an advice to use SD card with bootloader as it's the only working way. Now I wonder why the EXE method was created!!
I see that u got the 4.00.11 working. Did u upgrade it using EXE or SD card. Any help would be so appreciated ... thnx

Well i used the EXE methode the file i cooked in the Kitchen but i didnt change the version i left as 3 at the bottom of the page it works fine i upgraded from 3.XX to 4.XX then i downgraded from 4.00.11 to 4.00.05 then upgraded again all using EXE format so far working great.
i will be honest with you i know about the SD methode very well but never tried it so u have to make more search on this issue.
If you need anything more plz message me anytime and i will be more then whilling to help you step by step...

faisal said:
Samohile - Thanks. It is good advice to not mess with the radio if you can help it.
My only problem is that my device periodically shuts off. Then pressing the power button soft boots it. I cant tell for sure but it seems that this happens after an incoming or missed call. It seems that other friends using ROM 3.18.04 and Radio 3.25.01 (like our friend biso007 here) seem to have very stable systems.
I can try upgrading the ROM only and see what happens but the information at www.carrierdevices.com seems to imply that both ought to be upgraded at the same time. I notice it is an Australian site. Does that matter? Also, the version of the radio upgrade is a bit confusing, at least from its name. (Radio Upgrade File : RSUv1.15_(GPRS_T32500_ENG).exe] ). I wonder what this RSUv1.15 translates into since the name of the exe file for the ROM is nicely descriptive of the version (3.18.04).
Any advice in this would be very welcome..
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Faisal sorry for very late reply.
I have flashed my Qtek (bought in Abu Dhabi) with several versions of roms cooked in kitchens (Jeff's and Stefans's), but I have finally settled with ATT release wm2003 Siemens SX56 upgrade. It comes with most of the bugs fixed (except multiple reset bug) and is quite stable. I almost never have to reset it. You can flash the ROM only by SD card method though. You can try it. It's always a good idea to flash using SD card method. USB method using ProgramA is not very safe. I guess the network in Pakistan is compatible with the one in the UAE, so you can safely use it, if you don't mess up with the Radio Stack. My Radio is 3.23.01 and I have no problems with that.

2 rom upgades and still no signal .. help please !

ok fellas ...
i went from :
rom version: 3.17.03 ENG
rom date: 5/15/03
radio version : 4.17
to the upgrade :
rom version: 4.00.16 ENG T-Mobile US
rom date: 7/10/03
radio version : 4.17.00
courtesy of www.yorch.net
however the phone still can not pick up a signal ..
with upgrade i have not been able to switch GSM band from 900/1800 to 900 or 1900 successfully through the wallaby bootloader (after changes are made i can not get out of bootloader without doing a hard reset) also note the xda developers band switch tool is also present but reads error
also note
before the upgrade
my device model no. PW10A1
after upgrade
my device model no. PW10B1
not sure if im getting any closer to the solution but im still happy at this point i havent burned up the unit ...
perhaps it is still an issue of the radio version 4.17.00 (which is the only thing i havent fooled with yet)
any thoughts on trying the radio upgrades from www.yorch.net (under upgrades) ??
if this doesnt kill me it will surely make me stronger ... i will throw a party with beer for everyone if we can get this turkey running !!
thanks again folks !

Have you tried removing sim card prior to gsm switch in bootloader then reinserting after reboot?.

yes i have tried that as well ...
still no luck :?

eurowerks said:
yes i have tried that as well ...
still no luck :?
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I had a similar problem on one of the units I have. It ended up that I had to redo the radio to get it working again. The radio from yorch's should be fine.

TMO 4.10.00, RS 6.24.01
I upgraded my XDA I with this .exe file and everything went perfect. Search this forum on RUU or 4.10.00 and you should find the link to the file (~18M). TMO is pretty much locked on ROM4.10.00, Radio 6.24.01 still needs some work, still having problems only with NorTel Networks equipment. Hope this helps you.
Filename to look for:
RUUv2.04b_CEv4.01.00wwe_VS_Ozone_Test_(Integrate_Radio_6.24.01).exe

TMO 4.10.00, RS 6.24.01
I upgraded my XDA I with this .exe file and everything went perfect. Search this forum on RUU or 4.10.00 and you should find the link to the file (~18M). TMO is pretty much locked on ROM4.10.00, Radio 6.24.01 still needs some work, still having problems only with NorTel Networks equipment. Hope this helps you.
Filename to look for:
RUUv2.04b_CEv4.01.00wwe_VS_Ozone_Test_(Integrate_Radio_6.24.01).exe

TMO 4.10.00, RS 6.24.01
I upgraded my XDA I with this .exe file and everything went perfect. Search this forum on RUU or 4.10.00 and you should find the link to the file (~18M). TMO is pretty much locked on ROM4.10.00, Radio 6.24.01 still needs some work, still having problems only with NorTel Networks equipment. Hope this helps you.
Filename to look for:
RUUv2.04b_CEv4.01.00wwe_VS_Ozone_Test_(Integrate_Radio_6.24.01).exe

ROM: 4.01.00 ENG
Radio: 6.24.01
it is my dream ... no mission at this point to find this upgrade .... can anyone point me in the right direction? :?
thanks

Your "mission"
Your mission should be to practise with the search buttom associated with the Upgrading It forum, at top of page next to FAQ button, to find what you're looking for!

thanks for the mission co ordinates .. but i have actually tried the search option believe it or not ... before i posted ... also have tried the link via the ftp that was suggested .. just cant seem to located it ...
stumped :?

Hi eurowerks !
You can download from my ftp server.
ftp://pdabolt.homeftp.net
user:som
pass:som

sebi ...
hello and thank you ... still cant access the folder ... it says something like windows cant access the folder ... be sure i have epermission to access ... just cant understand how ive come so far and im so close ... i am new to this so im sure im just not getting something right ... i do appreciate the offer .. thanks .. ill keep trying

Hey eurowerks you need to use a program like CuteFTP or WS_FTP LE
to get to this site as well!
CuteFTP can be found at:
http://www.cuteftp.com/downloads/cuteftp.asp
WS_FTP LE can be found at:
http://www.ftpplanet.com/download.htm
HTH

thanks a bunch qman ...
the ftp download was a success
i am now running ..
rom : 4.01.00 eng
rom date : 10/27/03
radio version : 6.24.01
still no luck with it picking up a signal for the phone ... i have removed the sim ... and even switched between 900 and 1900 and still cant get a signal ...
any ideas? anyone ... please :?

It might be your SIM card so try it in another phone and see if it works.
If so try upgrading to the AT&T Radio stack its what I use.
HTH

i really cant believe it is the sim as it works fine in my other phone .. so i tried to do the radio uprade ...
from 6.24.01
to a.20.10
i was a bit skeptical as it is an at&t stack and i am using t mobile usa ..
dloaded it from yorch ... opened it in the windows directory of the xda as they say ... and it says something like upgrade failed.. press ok to restart
:?
says to be sure the path is correct and none of the files are missing ... perhaps there is something i am missing ...
also wondering how dangerous this radio upgrade is ... been reading some horror stories about others that have ruined their devices trying the upgrades .. but after all this is the 3rd rom ive installed so i figured what could a radio upgrade hurt ... anyways .. still no luck ..

eurowerks said:
i really cant believe it is the sim as it works fine in my other phone .. so i tried to do the radio upgrade ...
from 6.24.01
to a.20.10
i was a bit skeptical as it is an at&t stack and i am using t mobile USA ..
dloaded it from yorch ... opened it in the windows directory of the xda as they say ... and it says something like upgrade failed.. press ok to restart
:?
says to be sure the path is correct and none of the files are missing ... perhaps there is something i am missing ...
also wondering how dangerous this radio upgrade is ... been reading some horror stories about others that have ruined their devices trying the upgrades .. but after all this is the 3rd rom Ive installed so i figured what could a radio upgrade hurt ... anyways .. still no luck ..
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Confirming you copied all of the below files to your Windows root folder
RSUpgrade.exe
RSUpgrade.cp64
monitor_ul_bs.map
monitor_ul_bs.m0
and the upgrade still failed with a be sure path is correct and none of the files are missing? BTW your old radio stack is still in tact since it failed in
this way. Just remove any leftover upgrade links from your Startup folder.
How dangerous is upgrading the radio stack you ask? Its the most dangerous upgrade you can do in my book and should be only do as a last resort in getting your phone to work.
Also I can understand why you're skeptical as to it being an AT&T radio stack, most are but its the most powerful radio stack to date in my book and I've used them all (US that is). Your device must really be in bad shape to knock it down! :shock:
BTW what part of the US are you located?
HTH

Confirming you copied all of the below files to your Windows root folder
RSUpgrade.exe
RSUpgrade.cp64
monitor_ul_bs.map
monitor_ul_bs.m0
yes the above files were all copied to the windows folder of the xda .. not too sure about what u mean by root folder ... but they were opened within the windows folder ... :?
i did remove the files after it failed .. perhaps i should just be happy the pda works and it powers on ... :lol:
anyways im here on the east coast (nyc) .. lemme know if anyone comes up with anything else ... also wondering ... has anyone tried the upgrade from the siemens web site ?? i think it is something like A.20.17 .. im assuming it is a radio upgrade as well ?
question re. radio upgrades ..
is performing the upgrade by opening the exe file on the device standing alone the risky part? :? since upgrading the rom also has the radio upgrade within it and it is done while connected to the pc on the cradle with activsync perhaps that makes it safer ... ??

eurowerks said:
also wondering ... has anyone tried the upgrade from the siemens web site ?? i think it is something like A.20.17 .. I'm assuming it is a radio upgrade as well ?
question re. radio upgrades ..
is performing the upgrade by opening the exe file on the device standing alone the risky part? :? since upgrading the rom also has the radio upgrade within it and it is done while connected to the pc on the cradle with ActiveSync perhaps that makes it safer ... ??
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The A.20.17 upgrade contains both ROM and radio stack upgrade. The ROM is AT&T's most current Pocket PC 2002 update.
As far as the radio stack failure goes it can happen either way but its best not to have your device connected to the PC while doing it though!
HTH

Hey guys ...
The point is what is the actual type of the device A or B. Forget what's is shown in the device info as it can ve changed buy a wrong ROM or RSU upgrade. Refer to the device sticker in the device back side. If the device is A type then it's only 900 or 900/1800 type ... don't ever try to switch to any 1900 option as it may ruin the Radio part. If it's B then you can select the 1900 if your network supports this band. Don't forget also to switch it in the phone settings since now you have 4.01.00.
As Peter Poelman said, try to select the right band from the bootloader and soft reset more than once. Usually it takes many trials.
Good luck ...

GSM module hangs. Is it normal-please advise me.

I have XDA with ROM 4.00.11 ENG and Radio 4.21.00. Problem is : GSM module hangs so heavily that I have to cold-reset my device. This is very oppressive especially when I have set software.
I need some advice please.

RSU 4.21 is known to have many issues as you can read in this forum ... if you are using 900/1800 MHz, it's good to switch to RSU 3.25 from Carrier Devices.
If you are not ready to give up your xda ... I strongly advice you to get it flashed by a repair center ... RSU flashing is very dangrous even tho it worked for many people here!!
One last note, better to check with your operator if they can advice on a specific RSU version

Where I can download this RSU up/downgrade software ?
Where I can download this RSU up/downgrade software ?

Here is the file ... do this action on your own responsibility!!!

...done.
well see if it works good. need couple of days. I had before also 3.23.00 and 3.23.11 - both of them sucked. Signal was very weak (according to indicator on top of the screen). Now i see quite good coverage indication. Thanxx a lot.
BTW - I was in Cairo. Enormous ....

Best radio rom for PW10A1?

please, can someone tell me best radio rom for wallaby pw10a1?

any answer to this question.. i'm curious too

I cant help you..... I have a pw10b1 but my software now says pw10a1?!
All I wanted was to unlock my tmobile phone so i can use it for Cingular
my radio is 6.25.02

cheapman said:
I have a pw10b1 but my software now says pw10a1?!
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The model identificatin in the ROM is fixed. Check always the rearsticker to identify your device. If you have a PW10B than it will stay (hardwarelike) a PW10B device....
Stefan

still the real question is not answered

Also anticipating inputs from other PW10A1 users. As for me, the only radio I can flash on my Wallaby is 4.21. The 4.16 radio always has the 1% error failed. 4.21 works for me but I'm not that happy since the signal tends to drop intermittently at times. Had experiences of calls being cut and SMS not received.