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Set up 2nd email account for "send from" only?

Hi,
I have my Gmail email forwarding to another POP email that is pulled down into my main email account on my PPC (Imate JasJar). What I'd like to do is set it up so that when I receive an email from someone who sent their message to my Gmail account I can send my response back to them showing a "from" address of my Gmail addy, not my POP addy.
I was able to do this on my Tmobile sidekick, I think by just setting up another email account that it never checked that had my normal POP settings but displayed a "from" address of my choosing. Then when composing a reply it allowed me to choose which addy I was using to send from.
I tried setting up a 2nd email account on my JasJar using my Gmail pop settings, but when I went to send an email from it also started to download 400-500 of my emails from my Gmail account.
There's got to be a way to do this, right?

Well, you could change the "outgoing mail" settings in your second pop account by choosing to use different outgoing settings, and entering your G-Mail settings.
That way you'd only have one pop account shown, which would receive mail from your second account only but send through your G-Mail account...

Hmm... That might work pretty out pretty well, I'm going to give it a test run today. Thanks fo the help.

GMail

How can I configure both my Jasjar and my GMail account to keep all my e-mails on my Jasjar everytime it attempts a send and receive? At the moment it just wipes them clear, leaving me up the creek without so much as a paddle.

Vanishing GMAIL
...bizarre - was just about to post the same question. This is very frustrating! You have to be quick to read your mail, as when the device performs another send and receive it wipes ur inbox!

I used to use Gmail with a POP account with ActiveSync Email with Hotmail with Text and with MMS all coexisting simultaneously and have never had the problem you indicated, all my mails remain until I delete them of my own accord.
Sorry I am not much help. I recently stopped syncing my Gmail as it just didnt get used, I now only use it to store my emails that I want to keep for a long long long time and use my hotmail account for every tom **** and harry that wants an email address
I just simply followed the steps on the gmail website to setup and never lost any.

I've just had a little play and it seems that it might have something to do with what happens to the e-mail on the GMail servers once it's been downloaded using POP.

I have been using POP to access my GMail account and I agree with Simon_Darley... it all works fine.
I use Gmail as a spam filter from various email addresses I have.... I copy (autoforward) all mails from all my different email addresses automatically so it filters the spam, and keeps the mails safe for me so I have an archive of all my incoming messages in one place.
I'm happy to compare settings if you want me to help

This has ALWAYS worked for me:
http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?s=8749ac1eba9a4e574e3b66ec8a97c308&t=70622

BudgieUK said:
I have been using POP to access my GMail account and I agree with Simon_Darley... it all works fine.
I use Gmail as a spam filter from various email addresses I have.... I copy (autoforward) all mails from all my different email addresses automatically so it filters the spam, and keeps the mails safe for me so I have an archive of all my incoming messages in one place.
I'm happy to compare settings if you want me to help
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and yes I do exactly the same as Budgie... forward any other email account to my Gmail...

I've got it sorted. I had to change it to keep all of the e-mails in the inbox once they'd be downloaded using POP; made sense really.

philtech44 said:
This has ALWAYS worked for me:
http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?s=8749ac1eba9a4e574e3b66ec8a97c308&t=70622
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I have used the settings above and can receive my mail but I can't send GMail, all I get is the following message...
"Unable to connect to the incoming mail server. Verify that the server name is correct then try again to send and receive mail."
Is it possible to send mail for Gmail from the Exec?
Has anyone got Hotmail account settings as this would be very useful too :?:
Any help would be appreciated :?

StellaDel said:
Is it possible to send mail for Gmail from the Exec?
Has anyone got Hotmail account settings as this would be very useful too :?:
Any help would be appreciated :?
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yes if you follow the instructions and configure correctly sending/receiving works perfectly...
Don't you have Pocket MSN ?

Make sure you turn off the setting which deletes mails over 3 days old. This setting seems to be the default. Also have your gmail keep a copy of the messages and not delete them. (You have 2GB on gmail so its not much of a problem.)
You can also send email using gmail, just use the settings they give you (smtp.gmail.com I think?) and make sure you have SSL enabled.

Hello,
i have created a threat in the wizard forum, and now i see you have these problems too.
My wizard delete ALL Mail in Incoming when i send a mail. Whats the Reasen for this? Damn i want to keep my mail!

what worked for me is :
option 3/3
get message headers only
include 999kb of message body
using this setting I can send & receive when I want without losing my mail.

Damn jag_freeman you are the best!!! How do you get this idea??? But it works!!!!!

Email dissapear after resync?

i've setup my gmail account on the Wizard, i can send and recieve fine, but if i download emails, and i resync then the mail box empties the previous emails i had.
any know how to fix this...

Yes I've had this too after upgrading to iMate2.16 firmware.
Then I disabled my E-mail syncronization (it's useless for me anyway).

So how come my Hotmail emails dont dissapear when i connect to gprs? all emails i've read stay in the inbox, but not on my gmail account.

empty inbox
Similar problem here. gmail and my work e-mail (read) disappear from inbox after sync. Any solutions?

I had a similar problem where less and less messages were being downlaoded when I did a send and receive over wifi. However if I did a send and receive over gprs I would get the remaining messages.
I have now got to the point where no GMail messgaes are being downloaded.
Any ideas?

Just go to the setup of the account on the wizwerd and then Options then next u will find ( only display messeages from the last ( ) Days just increase the number of dayes to eg. 365 dayes ( a year ) this will keep all the messeages in your wizwerd inbox from the last year...u will find the default is 3 dayes by the mean this will show only the messages from last 3 days.....

i had the same problem, but i have foudn a very good solution.
I created an free exchange server account on http://live.mail2web.com/ and pushed my mails from gmail to this email adress. Now i sync my Wizard over WLAN directly with the exchange account! (i have no partnership with my PC)
The second pro is, that you have a full backup of your mails and contacts, so make a hard reset on your device and sync all data back
if you leave the mails in gmail's incoming, you can download the mails to your pc too.

Good explanation but the solution is no good...
Here is a good explanation of why the emails are disappearing...
http://www.palm.com/us/support/treo/treo700wverizon/faqs.html
However, the problem is that after you download the headers, you have to download the messages (2 send/receives for message? stupid). Then afterwards you still have the same issue in that after you download the full message, the servers treat it as the same as before and make them disappear.
Weak!

email dissapearing
Get another email client like : webIS mail / flexmail2006 and all messages will stay.

Changing the number of days to display messages form seemed to do the trick. I didn't have that box ticked so I assumed that it wouldn't affect it.
It's working now though, that's the main thing!

when u setup the email account u will find that box ....the defult of the box is 3 days this means emails from 3 days will only appears in the inbox ....if u increase this number of days for example 365 this means emails from the last 365 will be shown in the inbox.....this is the only soulution....it is only the setup of email account

Another thing u will notice that emails downloaded are only the headers...if u wnat the body of the email ( not the attachments ) you have to increase the kilobites downloaded from the email ( also at the setup prosses ) from 2 kilobite to for example 20 kilobite...NOW you will have the body of the email also with the header....if u want to download the attachments just clik the last line in the email to download the attachments of the email next time u syns.....that is it SO SIMPLE

Hi,
I used to have this same error when i first configured GMAIL. I'm not sure what options i selected at that time. But i did two things not sure which one fixed it but now its fixed and i have all the emails stay in my inbox until i delete them myself. here are the settings
1. On you phone open GMAIL inbox, select Menu/Tools/Options and Edit GMAIL account, on the 4th screen click options, on the 2nd screen uncheck "Only display messages from the last..." on the 3rd screen select "Get message headers only" and check "Include" and type in whatever KB you like (i have it as 512) click finish.
2. Go to your GMAIL account, select Settings/Forwarding and POP and in POP download select "Enable POP for all mail (even mail that's already been downloaded)" and click save changes.
Well this should do the trick.
Thanks,
Khawar

Gmail POP’ped to desktop and IMAP’ped to Wizard?

I would like to read my gmail email in MS Outlook on my computer, and while I am away from it, read the new only emails (the ones not yet downloaded to desktop) from my T-mobile MDA.
The way I understand it is done is to POP emails to desktop (which deletes them from the email server) and use IMAP on the mobile device to read whatever is not POPped yet. The problem is that Google’s Gmail does not support IMAP protocol. So how do I do this then, other than to change to an email provider who supports both POP and IMAP?

In gmail's POP service you can choose to either delete or archive email d/l by your device. You could read ur email from your pda then the email you just read would be archived into another folder.

I think what you need to do is change the settings in MS Outlook on your desktop to leave a copy of the email on the server for x number of days. On your PDA change the imap server settings to only download the last x number of messages or messages that were received in the last x number of days. I don't use a POP server anymore but you should be able to use the "tools" then "email accounts" then "view or change exisiting email accounts" and look for something along the lines of leave copy/copies of email on the server so that way Outlook doesn't delete them from the server.... In terms of the POP settings on the PDA make sure that it is never deleting emails off the server otherwise you are going to be faced with "dissapearing" email messages.
Hopefully this helps or someone else can be more helpful.

go to your gmail account, in the settings you can set it to be accessable through POP, do that. Dont forget to set it to leave a copy on the server
On your PDA you need to configure Outlook to accept the gmail accout.
go Start > Programs > Messaging
at bottom of screen choose Accounts
click New
enter email address click next
enter Your Name, User name, Password ( I leave the save password box ticked as I am idle ) click next
choose account type POP3
choose Name POP3 (unless you have option to choose another name you like better) click next
in server information
set Incoming as pop.gmail.com
set Outgoing as smtp.gmail.com
click the options button, page 2 of 3 check Outgoing requires server auth , check box Require SSL
click next
box now shows all Accounts as New, Text Message, POP3
click the OK top right of screen
thats it, done.

Wizzer said:
In gmail's POP service you can choose to either delete or archive email d/l by your device. You could read ur email from your pda then the email you just read would be archived into another folder
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...and hence not downloaded to the desktop if I understand correctly.
justintime07 said:
On your PDA change the imap server settings...
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Gmail does not support IMAP unfortunately. Also, I do not want to go by the number of days or number of messages because those things are not known in advance. I only want to pop email to my computer, and read whatever is not popped to the computer from the mobile device.
tbc_borg, the instructions are helpful if I only wanted to read email from the road. But after email is downloaded to the device, Gmail does not pop it to the desktop, which is not good for me.
I think I found how to do this.
I got another gmail address, set up forwarding of everything from the main email to the second one (with the original left in the main Inbox). I pop everything from the main email to the desktop and from the second email address to the Wizard. I will be receiving duplicate emails to both desktop and the mobile device, but that is better than having only half of emails on the desktop. Any better ideas? I searched extensively, found nothing smarter (well, again, other than finding an email provider that supports both pop and imap protocols).

I had the same problem. What I did was open a second relay a/c, eg [email protected]. I then added a forward on all mails from my normal gmail account to the relay account. On my phone I have my incoming mail server set to the relay account but my outgoing server set to my normal account. This means that all your mails will be forwarded to the relay account and when you want to reply to any of them on the phone it will send them from your normal account!
Bit of a roundabout way of doing things but works fine!

WOW, good hint with the different outgoing server, decmac! It works just as expected!
But I noticed something else that is wrong. I send a test email to my main email address, it gets forwarded to the relay email address. Send/receive from computer, receive the email fine. Send/receive from Wizard, receive it fine as well. So far so good. However, when I send/receive from the Wizard again, the email message that has just been downloaded gets DELETED and is nowhere to be found on the device (not even in "Deleted Items" folder.) I wonder what I have missed in the settings somewhere.

Yeah, that's a problem. It seems to only keep a current copy of your Gmail inbox on the phone so when you do send/receive it overwrites everything. What I have done to get around this is select "Get Message headers only" and select "Include x Kb of message body" Make x big enough to get all of your messages. It then keeps my messages in my inbox until I either delete it or select "Get entire message and any attachments" in the email message.
Not sure if this would work but maybe move messages into a local folder on the phone. Haven't tried this but in theory it should work! The above works perfect for me!

Perfect! It works!
Vielen Dank!

Kein Problem

Gmail POP3 deletes unread messages after second check

I just got my Mogul last week, and i find this one thing annoying -- I have it set up for Gmail, checking with POP3, and what it does is will only display mail it has not seen before, which would be fine, but if i have an email in my inbox on the phone it will get removed once it checks for mail again, even if it is still unread.
does anyone know if i can change that?
i would use IMAP but the problem with that is some messages won't display the body of the message on the phone.
So if you know of a fix to either of these i would appreciate it if you could enlighten me.

for pop3 check that its not set to download messeges from today only, and also make sure its not being deleted through gmails webaccess or some such

it is set to get the past 3 days, and they are set to stay on the server even after being downloaded through pop. I have had to go online to check it after my phone deleted one after a second send/recieve, so they are all still on the server. I just wish the phone would keep any message it downloads till i specificaly say to delete them.

I'm in the same boat with you. It's fairly annoying, to be honest. There are times when I'm not able to check my phone for email until it's already checked the server a couple of times. So when I can check it, any new messages I recieved after the first server check have already been cleared out of the inbox on my phone.
Is there no way to keep unread messages on the phone until they've been read or until I specifically tell the phone to delete them?

im not sure what the issue is, it works fine for me, messeges are always there, unread, on the phone until i mark them as read (even if i read them through the web access i still have to mark them read on the phone too) i dont know what other settings you can check

defaultdotxbe, could you possibly post the settings you have on your phone for checking your gmail account? and maybe even the settings you have under the POP3 tab in your gmail? maybe we'd be able to replicate exactly what you have for settings. it's probably that we have something set just slightly differently, and my guess is that it's going to be something in the gmail account settings, not the settings on our phones.

be sure of having this as username: recent:[email protected]

ersocia said:
defaultdotxbe, could you possibly post the settings you have on your phone for checking your gmail account? and maybe even the settings you have under the POP3 tab in your gmail? maybe we'd be able to replicate exactly what you have for settings. it's probably that we have something set just slightly differently, and my guess is that it's going to be something in the gmail account settings, not the settings on our phones.
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in the pop3 tab in gmail i have "Enable POP for all mail (even mail that's already been downloaded)" and "When messages are accessed with POP archive Gmail's copy"
on the phone i have all the default settings (automatically downloaded when i entered my email address) accept i change "download messeges from the past 3 days" to 7 days (although it works the same with 3 days)
im using sprint rom 2.17

I had the same issue. The username was the issue. Thx for that

yep, the username was what was wrong, thanks!

now when i send a message, the next time i check for messages it arrives as a new email... is there anyway to stop that?

nope, sorry