I have an XDA 1, how do i make a fixed change to the memory allocation usage. it continually resets. I have a 256Mb sd card and will store everything there. I want as much memory as psooible for programs ?
Any help would be appreciated.
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I've been getting an error from time to time recently, telling me I don't have enough storage memory ('critically low'). This can't be changed on the JasJar can it (M5000) like it could on most other PDA's.
I don't have all that many programs installed... so I don't want to uninstall anything... anyone know what I can do?
AndyCr15 said:
I've been getting an error from time to time recently, telling me I don't have enough storage memory ('critically low'). This can't be changed on the JasJar can it (M5000) like it could on most other PDA's.
I don't have all that many programs installed... so I don't want to uninstall anything... anyone know what I can do?
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Where do you install your programs? What does your "memory storage" say? I have 25MB left for program and only 1.04mb for storage mem but im not being prompted that mem is critically low. For storage card, i have 334.72mb left out of my 1g since I install most of my programs and save all docs/mp3 etc there.
Storage is showing only 0.5meg free. Program has 17.8 meg free. Around 100 meg on the SD card still...
Just removed Avantgo and I now have 4.8 meg free! Damn, I should have selected it to store the data on the SD card I guess!
But, all the same, is there nothing that can be done to 'shift' the storage and program memory when needed?
@Andy, reformat your SD card. I had the same error messahe when using MS Reader and the ebooks were on the SD card. After a reformat MS Reader did not report shortage of memory (I had 20MB of RAm and about 20MB of user memory free when I had the low memory problem). This problem seems to be related to the use of the PowerSave option in situations when a file may be still open on the SD card, which I think was responsible for causing the SD card problem in the first place.
I'm new to WM5 having previously had a Blue Angel running 2003SE; so far I like my new toy by am wondering about the pros and cons regrading where to install applications Storage Card versus Main Memory. Obviously, installing on Storage card keeps memory free - this is a good thing, but will applications run slower from storage card?
What expereinace can you share regarding thsi?
Thanks
Chris
In WM2003, internal storage ROM is only used to store a backup of the OS and vendor extensions, and is only read during hard resets. Volatile RAM is used to store the OS, files, and applications during regular use (unless they are installed on the SD card), and so their storage must compete with the RAM needed for running programs.
WM5 changes everything -- with WM5, the OS, applications and files always get stored in a nonvolatile storage, be it internal or external, and this is separate from the RAM. Thus battery loss does not cause you to lose installed applications or files. RAM is totally available for running programs, and is not used to store files which are rarely used. There is no more competition for RAM between stored files and running programs.
The WM5 OS and applications running in the background will always use a certain amount of the 64 MB of RAM. You can free it up by removing unnecessary applications. You can also free up the non-volatile storage space by removing vendor extensions and cleaning up temporary files. See this thread, and search for "0506" in re: O2 XDA Exec ROM.
As I have not received my XDA Exec yet, I cannot comment on the speed differences between using internal storage and SD storage. Obviously both are slower than running programs stored in RAM, and depend on the speed on the storage card. But the difference between installing on a SD card and installing in the "default location" is less in WM5 than in WM2003. Installing in the default location won't reduce your available RAM, for example.
I'm sure others have opinions on how best to optimize memory.
thanks for the answer. I posed the question because I pretty much ran out of memory on my device. I have installed in Corporate mode, so don't have O2 active etc. I have just done a hard reset & will now install everything on my storage card just to see what happens
I have had a few WM5 devices. Basically install everything on a removable card. Only install on the internal storage utilities that you are likely to keep around and restrict this to a minimum and small things, like vbar, TRE, etc.
The disadvantage of course is that if you swap SD cards then you can't run applications until you put back in the card installed. I never have this problem as I have only 1gb card permanently in the system. I will shortly be upgrading to a 4gb card (as they are not around £100) which means this is less of a problem. Although note that in the current version of the xda exec's software the camera refuses to write to a 4gb card unless at least 2gb is full.
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I too have a 1Gb card with a 4Gb on order. I'm not very bothered about the camera, but I have read about the 2Gb problem. Hopefully someone will fix this little bug, but until then I can save photos to main memory and then move them about
As a guide I install everything to a SD Card unless it's a today screen plugin or sync's in some way...
that's excatly my thought too - only things which have a today plugin go on the main memory; everything else to SD card - seems to work fine
Hi all,
Could anyone please tell me the differences between the storage memory and the program memory? Yeah, I know this might sounds stupid and I also wish that the answer is really that straight forward.
I always thought that 'Program Memory' is suppose the memory quota for us to install application & softwares. Where, storage memory is just simply the portion of memory where we stores data that we creates.
But whenever I install applications, 'storage' is the memory which always to be used up. Yet, I can hardly use up my 'program' portion of memory...
Can anyone tell me why? and how to install applications in the program memory instead of storage memory?
Thank you very much.
Cheers!
Search would have helped a great deal here, FAQ.
Storage is Flash
Programs is RAM
WM5 works the same way as a desktop. It loads the OS from disk to RAM when you power it on. When you remove the battery everything is safely stored to disc, not RAM as WM2003 was. Battery can go flat, no backup battery needed.
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Search would have helped a great deal here, FAQ.
Storage is Flash
Programs is RAM
WM5 works the same way as a desktop. It loads the OS from disk to RAM when you power it on. When you remove the battery everything is safely stored to disc, not RAM as WM2003 was. Battery can go flat, no backup battery needed.
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..... so how do you save stuff to Program memory? Or is that just temp momory that stuff runs from when you execute it?
You can`t save stuff to program memory.The program memory is like the RAM in your PC,just used for temporary storage and running programs.The storage memory is like the hard drive in your PC,used for actually `storing` data.
liverman666 said:
You can`t save stuff to program memory.The program memory is like the RAM in your PC,just used for temporary storage and running programs.The storage memory is like the hard drive in your PC,used for actually `storing` data.
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So why do they bother displaying it on the memory settings?
And does that mean it's different to how it was on the XDA2? That used to have a slider allowing you to change the allocation for storage/program memory.
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I find storage memory is the one you need to watch out. As you install more programs whether to SD card or to Program memory the storage memory goes down
Too low storage memory and your system will not perform properly. Install programs with large file size first then follow by programs with smaller file size otherwise you'll encounter installation 'Not enough memory' if you do it the other way round
If I set the memory allocation towards storage too low on my Magician (ie. less than 6MB) then the allocator automatically jumps back to its default 50/50 split. Why? And can I somehow hardwire the memory allocation so it won't do that?
Thanks!
Well,I'm new to this forum but I'm proud MDA Compact user for some time. If You want to lower your storage space just turn the slider to 4ex. 4,5MB and click OK before it returns. I had a similar problem and it helped.
It does'nt help in my case...
I think you can disable automatic memory allocation with SKTools. http://s-k-tools.com/
Its done in a different way.
add a key in registry
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Shell\ press new/string in name type NeverDorkMemory
then save now the memory wont jump back to 50\50
PS in storage memory must be minimum 5mb
is there a program, or a tweak that allows me to increase memory size, or manage memory from storage disk somehow? i need memory so my GPS igo8 can work properly
thanks
Nope, sorry but you only have a finite amount of ram. You can't steal any from the storage memory or from the memory card BUT you should be able to install IGO8 to the sd card... The maps are the biggest memory hogs though...
If you need ram then you need to see whats using it and shut that down with the taskmanager program. PLEASE NOTE - if you are using the stock rom then you may have heaps of carrier specific programs running that will eat up that precious ram...
Cheers...