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Radio Update broke my MDA

Hello everyone.
Im having serious trouble with my MDA i updated just yesterday. Somehow it hung up at 60%. Waited for about 15 Minutes but nothing happened. So restart, but MDA was dead.
I managed it ti load the CE and ROM with an SD from another MDA into the broken one. Went well, the device boots, after 15 minutes, but everything goes very slow.
So managed it to upload the cab file of the RSU on another SD, inserted it, executed, but at 1% it just fails to flash and want to restart the MDA.
I also tested the method someone mentioned with the autorun.exe, didnt help.
In the wallaby bootloader i saw that there is an option to Backup the GSM ROM to SD, but then it wants some kind of "PC Monitor". Thought it might be some kind of hyperterminal connection, but turned out not to be.
So, does anybody here have a clue what to do???

GSM ERROR
Hello there
I've suffered the same problem as many others did.
I suggest one final solution before giving up and believing it's a dead motherboard.
the solution I believe is:
1- Using a working XDA and through the bootloader click on contacts button to get to the flash menu then click on the option for copying rom and GSM to SD.
2- after complete copy use the same SD card in your device (at bootloader)
3- tell me what you get..

Re: GSM ERROR
smiley said:
1- Using a working XDA and through the bootloader click on contacts button to get to the flash menu then click on the option for copying rom and GSM to SD
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Gives me the already mentioned "Please connect RS232 and run PC Monitor" Screen...

If you are sure you have followed all procedure re: 1% screen of death mentioned in various threads in this forum, then you're best bet is to return the unit the your distributor/ service centre for repair.
I had this problem and posted my experiences on several threads. I spent the first 2-3 weeks trying different things without any luck. THen one day, I just return the unit the distributor and they repaired in two days. I was told they had to replace the GSM main board.
My problem was caused by T Mobile radio stack upgrade ( I did not use SD method, so the installation installed Tmobile radio stack on my 900/1800 xda. It worked fine until I accidentally 'checked' the 1900 option...
Just my two cents

XDA1 Software upgrade.. now it wont power up

Hi got the xda1 rom/radio upgrade from o2 web site.
installed radio upgrade first, it then asked me to remove ac power, i took it off dockign station, it rebooted, asked me for a simlock.. to which there was no mention of in the upgrade instructions.. i turned it off and on, and now it wont even boot up.. comes on with 02 logo.. then a white screen with blue banner at top..
what can i do to fix it??
i cant even see it on the pc!!!
please advise, i really hope i have not broken it.
can o2 do anything?

i can get to the bootloader by holding down power when soft resetting phone.. comes up with gsm error...
then nothing....
i can get to other menu about sd backup ect if i hold down the two buttons at top of unit when in bootloader.
how do i go about repairing the radio and rom ??
is it possible?

bootloader
ok, i can copy the rom ect from xda to sd card... and even copy it back over again.. so if i put the sd card in a reader on the pc.. and put a good rom and radio on it.. will it work ok booting off the sd card?
i can get to that menu from the bootloader..

You need to get a working rom installed then try to address the gsm error, I never heard of an xda asking for sid code when doing an official upgrade. Did you leave your sim card in the xda when it was updating the radio stack? You may be aware from reading on the forum that radio stacks once corrupted are very difficult if not impossible to rectify. I would suggest unpacking the rom you downloaded, burn just the ce part to rom using sd/bootloader method, then try to install gsm again, this time without sim inserted, you will find here on the forum the instructions to burn gsm from sd card, do this after you have a working bootable system. Good luck.

yes., the sim card was in the system at the time.. its an 02 sim card however, so i guessed this was ok.
printed out the 10 page instructions on how to upgrade s.ware so there was no problems (like this)
the radio stack was installed before the rom if that makes any difference?
is it possible for the xda1 just to lock up like this without having done it the way i did?
perhaps it would have done this anyway??
just thinking i could bring it back to place i got it at and not inform them of the s.ware upgrade that caused the problem to see if they can replace it or something...
just an idea, coz at the moment im kind of stuck.

Hi ...
If you managed to reinstall the ROM through SD card, does it mean you have a bootable system but the RSU doesn't work ?
If so and you can access the XDA from Activesync, then you may locate the 4 files of the RSU upgrade from the \windows\startup directory ... delete them then a hard reset may flash the original RSU back if it's not screwed up.

it should be possible to flash the rom via sd, as i can dump the faulty one to sd and then back over.. so, that part of the bootloader works.
ill ring the place ig ot it at and see what they can do, as it just "went off, all by itself"
i would try the sd flash myself but i aint got a card reader for sd.. just smart media.. lol
it doesnt sound as bad as some peoples s.ware problems however, as the bootloader seems to work ok.,. so fixing it may be possible, but ill give place i got it off a ring first.
thanks for all the info.

If it is under warranty and using the official flash upgrade destroyed the gsm radio stack then O2 should repair or replace. Radio stacks are very difficult to repair and people have asked about getting it fixed only to be told the mainboard needs replacing at huge cost.

thanks for the info, i got a sd card reader, but when i put the thing into pc it asks to format it so it wont read the stuff ive dumped from xda to the card..
oh well, ill give these guys a ring to see what they can do.
where can i get hold of the files to put to the sd card?
ive got the rom/radio files, but they are pc exe`s and not seperate files..

well, i got it flashed ok using official 3.17 s.ware via sd card..
on powering up, it still fails, just white screen with blue top, although there is a keyboard icon on the bottom right which was not there before.
still get gsm error on bootloader..
if only there was a way to put new radio stack on it via sd

djkus said:
well, i got it flashed ok using official 3.17 s.ware via sd card..
on powering up, it still fails, just white screen with blue top, although there is a keyboard icon on the bottom right which was not there before.
still get gsm error on bootloader..
if only there was a way to put new radio stack on it via sd
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Dead phone, you need send service center to repair, or to me

Cannot access my Bootloader - HELP!!!

Hi eveyone!
I've tried to upgrade my XDA to WM2003 (4.01.16 ENG form T-Mobile). Now I cannot access to my bootloader and GSM doesn't work.
Is there any chance to fix my XDA? Is there any softawre to restore bootloader?
I would be really appreciate for help.
Tom

if the bootloader is broken then
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/XDAtools
look at the first picture

Do you think it'll work, even though I cannot connect via Activ Sync???

what do you get when trying to access the bootloader screen ?

Nothing, beacuse I simply cannot access bootloader. When I do soft restart with holding the power button, it doesn't bring me to bootloader screen.
Is it possible that I had deleted Bootloader??? How can I restore it?????
Please help me, beacuse I can't afford to by a new device.
I do appreciate every hint.
Regards

AFAIK device still works so there is a possibility to upgrade it by copying sth into device using MMC or SD card. If I feel right about the reason of problems mensioned above he have to change Radio Stack and he can do this by MMC transfer and exe method. Maybe some of U can provide some link to working RS with good readme included...

Wiltom said:
Is it possible that I had deleted Bootloader??? How can I restore it?????
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Yes, if you still can sync with your xda, run the fixbootloader.bat from \xdatools\binaries on your PC

Im so scared...!!

I just bought a t-mobile wallaby from here in india, And i decided there was a update available after 3.14 or something. so i ran it. But it stopped in the middle. Said 20 min but waited an hour. Then i took the xda of its cradle and did a hard reset... Now all it does is switches on and show t-mobile and the light stay on...nothing after that. I think i really messed it up. Gave it to a guy who said he could fix it but now 4 days later says he cant. Really need help on how to do it myself Please. Please help me, cant throw money away like that......can some show me step by step instructions as i am stupid with upgraded or reinstalling this device.

why have you decided that you could upgrade your device if you don't understand anything to upgrading and its consequences.
Upgrading is *dangerous* for dummies.
You are the weak link[/list]

mananmistry said:
I just bought a t-mobile wallaby from here in india, And i decided there was a update available after 3.14 or something. so i ran it. But it stopped in the middle. Said 20 min but waited an hour. Then i took the xda of its cradle and did a hard reset... Now all it does is switches on and show t-mobile and the light stay on...nothing after that. I think i really messed it up. Gave it to a guy who said he could fix it but now 4 days later says he cant. Really need help on how to do it myself Please. Please help me, cant throw money away like that......can some show me step by step instructions as i am stupid with upgraded or reinstalling this device.
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:x Forget what this guest just said we are a community who help each other out :x
I am now using the XDAII but when i had the XDA1 i had a similar problem. Got stuck upgrading. Hang onto your horses dude your device isn't dead so breath a sigh of relief. If you have a SD/MMC Card reader then use it to burn the base Rom from
http://lumpistefan.dyndns.org and then install it through the boot loader(Hold the Power button and then press the soft reset button using the stylus(you will enter the boot loader mode and then follow the instructions on how to install the Rom.
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Go to a shop or a friend who had similar device, make sure you have a SD/MMC card with you and then enter the bootloader mode as described above and then copy the ROM on the SD Card. Then insert the card in your device and again enter the Boot Loader mode and Copy the Rom from the SD Card to your device after you are done press the Hard reset button on your device to switch it off keep it off for atleast 60 sec before pressing the hard reset button again to switch it on. Your device will live again.
[/b]A WORD OF ADVICE
Don't touch the Radio Stack on either your device or the other one. Always select Rom only.
If you need further help with using the bootloader search these forums you'll come up with alot of info.
Let me know how it works out

one question
Thanks for the advice.....your must be the better part of the site.
what happens if i cannot get into the boot loader.
thanks again

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mananmistry said:
Thanks for the advice.....your must be the better part of the site.
what happens if i cannot get into the boot loader.
thanks again
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I believe there's a way to go-back! Do a flush by pressing on the power button+the hard reset+the navigation button pressed. All at once and that's how you go-back to the original ROM. Let me know if it works and if you dare to do it anyways.. 8)

guest said:
why have you decided that you could upgrade your device if you don't understand anything to upgrading and its consequences.
Upgrading is *dangerous* for dummies.
You are the weak link[/list]
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Mr. Guest you are an idiot, many of us have been at this point one time our another. This is no way to respond to a forum member in need of help.

i'm no techie when it comes to these things but just out of curiousity WHAT causes the upgrade to stop? mananmistry said he was in the middle of upgrading already; is it the rom he used or is it the connection (power flux, cable, sync, etc)? just curious... :wink:
oh and its beers for the others and the loo for the guest

update
now the thing is i got the phone back. I have connected the usb but pc cannot find device and xdatools or the rom .exe files wont install. it says "xda not found via activesync", something like that. I went into the boot loader and it said GSM ERROR and stops. have to press calender key to get into sub-menus. what is the problem. does the rom kitchen .exe files need sactive sync to be present. please can some one tell me.
do i need a sd card reader. can i not just use someone phone to put my sd card and burn onto sd...??

You are now in serious trouble, the GSM error often proves fatal for the phone. You can still flash the rom though by following the previous instructions. After that is completed you will have to try flashing a radio stack. Please be prepared to be disappointed, I wish you the best of luck. The good news is that even if the phone doesnt work you should still have a working pda.

Where can i get a radio stack rom...???
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where can i get a radio stack rom....will try...
If my gf has a pda with sd card can i use the unit to see the sd card and write the rom on it???

Re: update
mananmistry said:
now the thing is i got the phone back.
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how did U get the phone back 2 work (bootloader)
thanks
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get a radio stack from here
http://lumpistefan.dyndns.org/tools/

my wallaby loader is indicating gsm error

m wallabr boot loader is showing gsm error and ever since the radio has been off.wat do i do to bring it back,imean the gsm,cos i have tried turning it on but to no avail. is there any flash program i can use to correct this?pls hlp me.

Try this:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wallaby_HT_GSMError
Stefan

pls i dont have any sd card at the moment
thanks for the site given,but pls i want to know if i can use this without the sd card.can i use the cradle?i.e active sync to run it?cos i need to fix up this stuff fast.the rom version of my ppc is 4.01.16,hope it wont be the wrong type for the flash software that i will use.

If you're device come up and you get activesync working, it should work also with the 4.01.16 ROM....
Stefan