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XDA GPRS : Sharing with Laptop via IR or CABLE?

Ok. Please don't tell me to search. I have. If you have found the magic cure, then can you possible and nicely show me there this thread is?
PROBLEM:
No internet access for Laptop on 1.5 hour train trip.
However, TMOBILE XDA phone has good GPRS signal.
REQUIREMENT:
Share GPRS internet connection coming through XDA with laptop.
SOLUTION (?) :
None found. Might test this one : http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cach...aptop-howto.pdf+gprs+laptop+ir&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
Alt Link to above: http://tomt.ath.cx/attachments/gprs-turkcell-laptop-howto.pdf
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I understand boot mode (wallaby) where it can be used as traditional cellular modem. That's limited to speed problems, and I don't wish to pursue that.
I also found a link in Microsoft newsgroup (recaptured in google groups), but I need to track those individuals down:
http://groups.google.com/[email protected]&rnum=1
Thanks, hope we all can figure this out.

With wm2003 4.00.33 German there is the "Wireless Modem" application built in which works with my MDA. I don't know if that application also works with an english ROM. Maybe there is a ROM-Update out there and the wireless modem is included.
Fidl

Thanks. I just checked both PROGS and CONNECTIONS, no such thing.
New to my ENG 4.05.00 is GPRS AUTHENTICATION in the connections/networking seciton, but nothing else.

wize_1 said:
Thanks. I just checked both PROGS and CONNECTIONS, no such thing.
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I know that the wireless modem is NOT included with your 4.00.05 ROM. It was included in the 3.17.03 ENG ROM from O2.
Maybe you give a try to the wmodem.exe i extracted from my german ROM.....
Good Luck!
Fidl

Great!!! I'll try tonight installing that and will let everyone know.

One question, however. From reading other threads (I finally found some), I noticed that the laptop should be running XP.
I guess the question really is, what are the step-by-step instructions to complete the configuration and get the laptop on the internet. I would think that they were:
(1) Getting the phone to have WMODEM [complete]
(2) Powering the phone up, and running WMODEM app [complete]
(3) Powering up the laptop, and then discovering a device [unknown]
(4) Creating a new DUN (dial up networking) connection on the laptop and using the mystery modem device just discovered [unknown]
(5) Configuring SOME NUMBER to dial as the connection parameters [unknown]
(6) Connecting
I would think that the phone would accept the incoming 'request' for it to act as a wireless modem, and initiate a gprs connection, and then do some sort of NAT.
Does ANYONE have ANY more information on how this might work?
Is XP required?

GPRS Settings
You need a Serial Cable or an Irda COM Port available. XP is not required. I do Irda on W2k (it also works with XP)
Check this link for Instructions and the Irda-Driver:
http://www.myxda.com/html/HowToUse/XdaII/How to setup Wireless Modem for IrDA.htm
The important thing is to install a Standard Modem over some COM port and use Advanced Settings for your AccessPoint i.e
AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","web.one.at","",0,0
You then dial "*99#" (without the quotes)
Fidl

I gave up and bought an aircard!
:lol:

Where do we stand on the best solutions?
I have the same problem except I am also interested in getting the XDA to act as a wireless modem for circuit-switched data calls (7Kbps pipe).
I first saw the most pertinent information at http://www.xda-developers.com/modem/ but the page is labeled "superseded". As I understand, as soon as we get ROM 3.16.43 or above, all the "intrusive" trick posted on the page originally is obsolete.
My first question is about the "intrusive" trick there. It sure looks like the trick will get the XDA to act as a wireless modem for your laptop to make circuit-switched data calls (consuming minutes, 7Kbps only). Does it get the laptop to make GPRS connection (45Kbps) as well, assuming I subscribe to T-Mobile's data plan ($20/mo, unlimited data under promotion)?
My second question is, once we get a ROM version that gives a "wireless modem" program, can I make both types of data calls? Sounds like yes for the answer.
If so, great. Let's assume so. T-Mobile US is at ROM 3.14.40 ENG right now. In a matter of a month or two, they are going to post the upgrade for Windows Pocket PC 2003. A tier 2 tech guy told me that it will probably come with a ROM upgrade. I feel that the chances are high that that ROM version provides this "wireless modem" program. If so, isn't it true that the upgrade basically converts our XDA's into a Sierra Wireless AirCard 750, and then some? Or I am off track somewhere?
The tech support told me that the AirCard 750 approach calls for a SIM card for the air card. You would have to either open a new line for a new SIM card, quite costly, or eject the SIM card from your PPC and place it into the air card each time you use it, quite a hassle. Hardware capability wise, XDA is just an AirCard 750, and then some. It's rediculous that it was not made as such to begin with. Maybe it was just a matter of development phases to roll out functionalities gradually and we are getting there?

Hello! I´ve got only one problem left with the xda II
Does anybody know how it ist possible to get the shown data from the XDA2´s IE on the screen of a notebook? I have a wsp flatrate and want to read the text on a bigger screen......... ist that possible? does anybody have experience with this topic?

Re: Hello! I´ve got only one problem left with the xda II
alamor said:
Does anybody know how it ist possible to get the shown data from the XDA2´s IE on the screen of a notebook? I have a wsp flatrate and want to read the text on a bigger screen......... ist that possible? does anybody have experience with this topic?
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Well, there is this remote display application at YORCH.NET
"Remote Display Control for Pocket PC
With the Remote Display Control application, you can display actions on a Pocket PC, including user input, remotely on the display of a desktop or laptop personal computer. This is a great tool for demonstrating the power of the Pocket PC to a large audience. It also allows developers to test their applications for the Pocket PC on a larger screen.
size: 712KB"
I didn't try it yet, it sounds quite interesting for multiple purposes.

BT WModem and COM ports....

Hi All,
Thanks for all the good suggestions I've got from this site over the last couple of days. I have a new problem for you now...
I see from searching this site that loads of people have had problems using the XDA / XDA II as a wireless modem, but I can't piece together quite what I have to do to get it working with bluetooth.
I've got the pdf from the o2 site, but it's not very clear, and I think it's targeted to W2000 not XP, which is what I have.
SO..... Would somebody be kind enough to let us all know what the step-by step process is to get a laptop, for example, talking to the internet via the XDA II, via BLUETOOTH.
I have the latest o2 ROM, so I have those 2 new check boxes in Bluetooth settings. Most of the laptop setup is ok, but I think the major question is regarding the ports.....
Which port is the XDA talking on?
Which port is the laptop talking on?
How do I make them talk to each other?
And to add to this question - the o2 pdf presumably gives instructions such that we end up using the GPRS line. Can this be modified to use the cellular line to dial up a standard ISP so I can use up some of my free minutes (that's what I do when surfing on the XDA II)?
Sorry it's a bit waffly - PLEASE help! Thanks very much!
Phil

www.o2.co.uk/xda
Under the Bonnet
User Guides
Oddly enough, a file called Using Xda II as a Modem.
Worked for me.

Oddly enough... that's the pdf I'm talking about.
It's not very clear about the COM ports - it says to select the "correct COM port for your connection", so the bit I'm asking about is how to decide upon or determine which is the correct com port for my connection. The important issue here is the bluetooth communication.
It's step-by-step modem and connection guide is also incorrect for XP (mine anyway - as I said, I suspect it's written for 2000, not 2000/XP), so there could be errors in my modem setup - I need to make sure that's not the case as well.
Any more ideas?

OK - let me put this another way - Before pressing connect on the WModem program on the XDA II, do you have to setup a bluetooth serial connection to the PC? If so, HOW? How do you simply make the connection?
Please help - somebody?
Thanks,
Phil

Just to make sure we are on the same document
http://www.myxda.com/html/HowToUse/XdaII/How to setup Wireless Modem for Bluetooth.htm
You first install your bluetooth adapter on your PC and this should install a bluetooth modem on your PC. You then configure that as described in the first section "Desktop setting:" make sure you change the word internet with your service providors APN in the advanced setting string.
Thats your PC side finished for now. no connections made yet.
Ok on to the XDA II, follow the instructions in the next section "Getting Start:" Steps 1 - 6 are all on your XDA II. Now it is waiting to be a modem. Move to your PC and follow the rest of the steps and you hsould get connected.
I used the O2 free WAP APN for my connections when i set it up. This meant having to set the proxy in IE just as you do on the XDA II if you want to browse. This gives limited function for anything other than browsing but for free thats fine for me.
I have not yet tested an ISP using this method but it will be a matter of removing the advanced string in the modem settings and using your ISP details and phone number in the dial pop up instead of *99#. I have done this before with my old nokia 7650.
Also remember if dialing into an ISP like that instead you will only get 9600 baud rate as opposed to the 42k odd that GPRS will give you. However this is fine for most light emails and IMs etc.
Oh and i did bond the 2 devices first. i nearly forgot that.
I Hope this helps you get sorted.

It works fine for GPRS. However when I try to connect to an ISP, I get a "line is busy" message. Any clues?

Dingo - you're great. That's got it.
The pdf that's on the user guide section of 'under the bonnet' section in the XDA site is
http://smsgen.o2-uktech.com/xda2/Xda_II_Modem_Setup_Guide.pdf
which is NAFF!
Your instructions are much better!
I'll try the ISP method soon - I'll let you know if it works.
Cheers!
Phil

OK - looks like I've got the ISP method working.
The process on the XDA is identical, but the modem settings are slightly different. The extra initialisation string can be done away with, and in the security tab of the connection (in network connections) "typical" must be selected rather than "advanced".
Other than that, it's all the sam, for me at least. I use UK2 as my ISP. It's very handy - no registration required.
Hope this helps.
Phil

ISP works for me too. I had to change in CSD line type the data rate to 9600 bps(v.32).
Being used to ADSL, 9600 bps brings back memories

Thanks to everyone who's contributed to this thread - it's helped me connect my laptop to the net thru my XDA2 over bluetooth for the first time!
I have a couple of questions that I hope someone might clear up for me:
1. I've used "mobile.o2.co.uk" in the init string and dialled with *99# which works but the XDA doesn't show any change to the connection icon. Is it using GPRS or data over voice or magic?!
2. Although web and mail downloads works great, I can't send email - I get it returned saying '550 relay not permitted'. A port issue I guess? Can that be solved?
Thanks for your time - keep up the good work.
Andy.

WIRELESS MODEM CONNECTION PROBLEM

Hello:
I am using the "Wireless Modem" to connect my laptop to the web via GPRS on my PDA2k. When I use the connection via USB (cable between laptop and PDA2k), it works perfectly. When I do it via Bluetooth, I get the error message "Error 734: The PPP link control protocol has been terminated" right after it tries to register the computer on the network. It seems to recognize the username and password fine, but then it shows the error message and drops the connection.
Any clues as to why this is happening? I have the exact same settings in both the USB and BT dialup connections. I'd like to be able to use BT because it is one less cable to carry around.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Fernando

bluetooth modem connection problem
Hi, i read in other forum about this problem, is it setting problem or XdaII problem?
I plan to get one mainly for this purpose, if it is a problem then i have to get something else.
any one please help to clearify.
thanks

AlexT:
I did this OK with my old MDAII, so I think this is not a Himalaya (MDA2, XDAII) problem, but rather a Blueangel (MDA3, PDA2k) problem.
Fernando

I had this problem recently while abroard.
Even though it "dials" the default GPRS connection you need to manually enter the correct APN name in WirelessModem->tools->settings. It defaults to the APN of the first GPRS account entered rather than the one currently active.
Hope this helps.

Do you know which ROM your version of wmodem came with? (wmodem is installed with the OS ROM not the Ext ROM, right?) Looking at mine, which I think is from i-mate, there is no tools menu in the wmodem applet, and therefore, no place to set/check the APN...

hey anyone has the JAM driver for the wireless modem? If yes can someone please post it here or attach it on this thread. I really need it in an emergency as I am away from my home and don't have the CD with me for the time being. Please please please can someone send me the file
thanks in advance
ysatti

hey anyone has the JAM driver for the wireless modem? If yes can someone please post it here or attach it on this thread. I really need it in an emergency as I am away from my home and don't have the CD with me for the time being. Please please please can someone send me the file
thanks in advance
ysatti

I figured my question out. It is included in the ExtRom. The version included in OEM_TMO_NL_IssueFix_142115.sa.CAB in T-Mobile_MDAIII_Ext_Rom_142115_WWE.rar has the Tools menu.
ysatti, there are a few versions floating around. Try this modem driver:
ftp://xda:[email protected]ers.com/Uploads/USB_modem
or this one:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/Blueangel/O2_UK_Xda_IIs_Upgrade_v140242.exe/
If those don't work, try the attached CDMA version, even though you have a GSM phone. (Remeber you have to be logged in to see attachments)

hello, did anybody found out the solution? I had exc the same problem with my xda mini now. But couple months ago I canuse the bt wireless modem without any problem. I don't know what's up, I did not make any change on setting and installed new progame this period. Last the bt is worked, I can send and received files between the pc and mini.

hello, did anybody found out the solution? I had exc the same problem with my xda mini now. But couple months ago I canuse the bt wireless modem without any problem. I don't know what's up, I did not make any change on setting and installed new progame this period. Last the bt is worked, I can send and received files between the pc and mini.

Hi!
Did you add in modem properties initialisation string?
For me: AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","www.umc.ua". I didnt use modem dialer, only usbmdm driver. Connection set up manualy. Sorry my little English ).

kevino said:
I had this problem recently while abroard.
Even though it "dials" the default GPRS connection you need to manually enter the correct APN name in WirelessModem->tools->settings. It defaults to the first GPRS provider entered rather than the one currently active.
Hope this helps.
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That's work for me. After add the APN, now I can use bt wireless modem.
Thanks

bartman,
Glad it helped.
Dasert75's solution should work as well, and for people without the "tools menu" because it does the same thing.
Seems silly that it uses the default GPRS account but does not get the APN from the settings for that account though.

com open error (8)
i installed wm2005
but when i try to activate the witreless modem on my device on usb connection it says
com open error (8)
any one has any idea ?

Imate pda2 as an external modem to connect notebook via GPS

I have Imate pda 2 .I Want to use it as an external modem and connect my notebook ( Hp Pavillion 4141) to the internet via GPRS through bluetooth
Could someone please give me a step by step ( I am a novice ) instruction as to how to do this?

hi
did u find a solution ! ??? i can help if u r still Not able to do it.

i could do with a hand
i have the O2 XDAIIi. I followed the O2 instructions from there web site. Im connecting my Tosiba Laptop to the XDA via USB. i can get the laptop to see the xda as a wireless modem, it talks to the xda and the xda shows the 'flashing' modem lights on the screen. the problem i have is the laptop just says page cant be displayed. If you have idiot instructions that wouls be great. the laptop is running XP home edition.
Thanks Pete

I'm very interested in this, because I have "free" gprs at the moment, and if i could run my laptop VIA gprs (even if it is slow) it would free my life up alot!
I didn't even manage to get as far as my laptop seeing my XDA IIi as a wireless modem. Could you send me the link on the O2 site on how to get that far?

the site is here
http://www.my-xda.com/xda2i_spec.html
scroll down and you find this and more
http://www.my-xda.com/downloads/SettingUp_XdaII_s_i_modem.pdf
No when I came to set this up I found my XP didnt match the screen shots so did my best.
also it tells you to put the xda in modem opertation when in the cradle but you need to do it before for, so the PC sees it as a modem rather than xda
Pete

Hi
Someone knows where to get the HTC USB modem driver ?
I don't have thedisk
Thanks

I got it....should be tagged to this message!!
I also managed to get the thing working in the end...
I uninstalled the modem and the network link.
ran the modem prog on the xda, hit start plugged into the usb on the laptop
The laptop active sync disabled before plug in!!
Finds the HTC modem and installs
Then rather than setting up a connection I launched internet explorer, tool, internet options, connections
set one up through there...
YOU DO NEED to add the initalization string from the O2 instruction sheet for the serial connection though. otherwise it fails the connection
AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","MOBILE.O2.CO"
also check out this place for more info on GPRS settup
http://www.filesaveas.com/gprs.html
Pete

perfect!!
TDIPower said:
I got it....should be tagged to this message!!
I also managed to get the thing working in the end...
I uninstalled the modem and the network link.
ran the modem prog on the xda, hit start plugged into the usb on the laptop
The laptop active sync disabled before plug in!!
Finds the HTC modem and installs
Then rather than setting up a connection I launched internet explorer, tool, internet options, connections
set one up through there...
YOU DO NEED to add the initalization string from the O2 instruction sheet for the serial connection though. otherwise it fails the connection
AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","MOBILE.O2.CO"
also check out this place for more info on GPRS settup
http://www.filesaveas.com/gprs.html
Pete
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thats exactly... the way it should be.. 100% working!
anybody out there with a macintosh who has done this??????

Just getting around to trying your instructions.
If this works I will be super happy. More happy than a Chocoholic in a chocolate wearhouse....or an alcoholic with the keys to a brewary.

this stupid board
just to clear this up for the USB mode you still need to enter the string. which can be found on the O2 instructions for the serial connetion of i posted there anyway.
Pete

I attempted to set it up, but got no-where really....
The instructions are very confusing.

tomw86 Ive added you to msm so you if you're on i can try and chat you through it.
Did you get the modem installed??
Here's how I did it.
Open active sync, File, connection settings.
Disable the USB option.
Close Active sync
fire up the XDA, Programs, WModem (wireless modem program)
Plug the XDA into the computer.
It should now find the modem and go through the give me a driver bit. Tell it to go manual and point it to where the drive is located, if it is the one I posted above then you will need to unzip it first (I had to zip it to upload onto here) or point to the location on the cd.
Let me know if you get that far. Ill try and sort out the rest. I got the modem connected and the laptop to talk to it, connecting to O2 but my IE wouldnt connect through it. I ended up removing the connection and staring again and it worked.
Pete

How to use GPRS Internet on Laptop

How can you use GPRS Internet from your O2 Exec/JASJAR on Laptop/Desktop computer?
I am guessing there should be a way through the wireless modem. Any ideas guys?

Activate the wireless modem, install the device as a modem on the computer.
Dial *99# with the computer..

Hi all
I just avtivated by wireless modem through similarly named app on Exec.
Then on laptop dialed *99# and all was looking well until Win XP laptop said registering computer on the network.
Then error message on Laptop said device wasn't functioning.
Whilst it was trying though the coloured lights on the wireless modem(exec) app were flashing away like merry.
That was entertaining enough but any clues as to where I'm going wrong?
Using a bluetooth dongle with IVT soleil on laptop.
Which works for activesync and headset.
Have stopped activesync on exec in order to get this far.
Phil

You have to install USB modem drivers for your Exec on your XP desktop. I don't know if the modem will work through bluetooth. I use USBmodem drivers with my Vario and it works perfectly. I don't know if you need to use different drivers for your Exec, but I will attach the ones that work with the Vario.

fillippe said:
Then error message on Laptop said device wasn't functioning.
Phil
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Try a soft reset (that worked setting up a mate's Universal with the same error), sounds like you have the modem installed and everything else set up.
Btw when his couldn't connect with that error, it couldnt connect to the network when not functioning as a modem anyway.

thank you for the modem driver for Universal! I really looking for it :wink:

this is about the best walkthrough i have ever read. so Koksie thanks if you wrote this....
anybody got any ideas when this error comes up when i go to start "4- Then in Programs, click on "Wireless Modem". With the Connection type on USB, click on "Start". " and i click start thie error "ERROR .... COME OPEN ERROR"
any ideas what that means?!
Jay

I did not write it myself, just found it and passed it on because it worked perfectly for me. I have no idea why it gives the error you mention. I think the walk through was found on this forum, perhaps try to find the thread and ask the question there? The person who posted this originally might perhaps know the answer. good luck!

I've tried this loads of times all I get is a COM OPEN ERROR on the XDA.. it did work once briefly then wont work again..

I've tried this loads of times all I get is a COM OPEN ERROR on the XDA.. it did work once briefly then wont work again..

I had the same problem. In bluetooth settings delete all the outgoings port that you created. In my case it was port 8 for gprs....Now works¡¡

well thanks for the help.. lol although that doesn't sound to promising maybe i will take it back to o2?
arhh just saw dherrero's reply i may try thatl
jay

hey hey! great thanks for that works brillantly. now i just need to test my tomtom to see if he can stil connect to my GPS device:

Update
Koksie and Kevino most helpful.
I gave up on Bluetooth and got me USB cable out.
The USB modem connects and works well now.
I am not sure the "receive all incoming beams" tick is neccessary?
For O2 customers I found this which was quite useful for the USB Modem Connections settings on the Laptop/PC.
http://flash.o2.co.uk/productsservices/mobileweb/pdfs/Windows manual set up instructions.pdf
BTW I can connect for my emails but have to setup a new Email Account in Outlook to send using the O2 smtp server (smtp.o2.co.uk).
However I still can not get Internet Explorer to be able to browse on this GPRS connection, any ideas?

Re: Update
fillippe said:
BTW I can connect for my emails but have to setup a new Email Account in Outlook to send using the O2 smtp server (smtp.o2.co.uk).
However I still can not get Internet Explorer to be able to browse on this GPRS connection, any ideas?
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Well m8...as you bring this up...
If anyone can shed some light on this it would be great.
It seems to me tat this problem is only with o2 :?
I have also tried in the passed to make phones work with laptops an tomtom go's etc for the gprs connection usage and had no joy.... at first i thought it was the phones...tested with Nokias 6310i, 6230, 6230i, SE t630, w800, w900i, etc all running the latest firmware and 02 active settings and always connection errors.
In the meantime ALL the other networks like voda, t-mobile, orange etc work like a charm on the same setups.
:?: :?:
BR