XDA GPRS : Sharing with Laptop via IR or CABLE? - Networking

Ok. Please don't tell me to search. I have. If you have found the magic cure, then can you possible and nicely show me there this thread is?
PROBLEM:
No internet access for Laptop on 1.5 hour train trip.
However, TMOBILE XDA phone has good GPRS signal.
REQUIREMENT:
Share GPRS internet connection coming through XDA with laptop.
SOLUTION (?) :
None found. Might test this one : http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cach...aptop-howto.pdf+gprs+laptop+ir&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
Alt Link to above: http://tomt.ath.cx/attachments/gprs-turkcell-laptop-howto.pdf
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I understand boot mode (wallaby) where it can be used as traditional cellular modem. That's limited to speed problems, and I don't wish to pursue that.
I also found a link in Microsoft newsgroup (recaptured in google groups), but I need to track those individuals down:
http://groups.google.com/[email protected]&rnum=1
Thanks, hope we all can figure this out.

With wm2003 4.00.33 German there is the "Wireless Modem" application built in which works with my MDA. I don't know if that application also works with an english ROM. Maybe there is a ROM-Update out there and the wireless modem is included.
Fidl

Thanks. I just checked both PROGS and CONNECTIONS, no such thing.
New to my ENG 4.05.00 is GPRS AUTHENTICATION in the connections/networking seciton, but nothing else.

wize_1 said:
Thanks. I just checked both PROGS and CONNECTIONS, no such thing.
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I know that the wireless modem is NOT included with your 4.00.05 ROM. It was included in the 3.17.03 ENG ROM from O2.
Maybe you give a try to the wmodem.exe i extracted from my german ROM.....
Good Luck!
Fidl

Great!!! I'll try tonight installing that and will let everyone know.

One question, however. From reading other threads (I finally found some), I noticed that the laptop should be running XP.
I guess the question really is, what are the step-by-step instructions to complete the configuration and get the laptop on the internet. I would think that they were:
(1) Getting the phone to have WMODEM [complete]
(2) Powering the phone up, and running WMODEM app [complete]
(3) Powering up the laptop, and then discovering a device [unknown]
(4) Creating a new DUN (dial up networking) connection on the laptop and using the mystery modem device just discovered [unknown]
(5) Configuring SOME NUMBER to dial as the connection parameters [unknown]
(6) Connecting
I would think that the phone would accept the incoming 'request' for it to act as a wireless modem, and initiate a gprs connection, and then do some sort of NAT.
Does ANYONE have ANY more information on how this might work?
Is XP required?

GPRS Settings
You need a Serial Cable or an Irda COM Port available. XP is not required. I do Irda on W2k (it also works with XP)
Check this link for Instructions and the Irda-Driver:
http://www.myxda.com/html/HowToUse/XdaII/How to setup Wireless Modem for IrDA.htm
The important thing is to install a Standard Modem over some COM port and use Advanced Settings for your AccessPoint i.e
AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","web.one.at","",0,0
You then dial "*99#" (without the quotes)
Fidl

I gave up and bought an aircard!
:lol:

Where do we stand on the best solutions?
I have the same problem except I am also interested in getting the XDA to act as a wireless modem for circuit-switched data calls (7Kbps pipe).
I first saw the most pertinent information at http://www.xda-developers.com/modem/ but the page is labeled "superseded". As I understand, as soon as we get ROM 3.16.43 or above, all the "intrusive" trick posted on the page originally is obsolete.
My first question is about the "intrusive" trick there. It sure looks like the trick will get the XDA to act as a wireless modem for your laptop to make circuit-switched data calls (consuming minutes, 7Kbps only). Does it get the laptop to make GPRS connection (45Kbps) as well, assuming I subscribe to T-Mobile's data plan ($20/mo, unlimited data under promotion)?
My second question is, once we get a ROM version that gives a "wireless modem" program, can I make both types of data calls? Sounds like yes for the answer.
If so, great. Let's assume so. T-Mobile US is at ROM 3.14.40 ENG right now. In a matter of a month or two, they are going to post the upgrade for Windows Pocket PC 2003. A tier 2 tech guy told me that it will probably come with a ROM upgrade. I feel that the chances are high that that ROM version provides this "wireless modem" program. If so, isn't it true that the upgrade basically converts our XDA's into a Sierra Wireless AirCard 750, and then some? Or I am off track somewhere?
The tech support told me that the AirCard 750 approach calls for a SIM card for the air card. You would have to either open a new line for a new SIM card, quite costly, or eject the SIM card from your PPC and place it into the air card each time you use it, quite a hassle. Hardware capability wise, XDA is just an AirCard 750, and then some. It's rediculous that it was not made as such to begin with. Maybe it was just a matter of development phases to roll out functionalities gradually and we are getting there?

Hello! I´ve got only one problem left with the xda II
Does anybody know how it ist possible to get the shown data from the XDA2´s IE on the screen of a notebook? I have a wsp flatrate and want to read the text on a bigger screen......... ist that possible? does anybody have experience with this topic?

Re: Hello! I´ve got only one problem left with the xda II
alamor said:
Does anybody know how it ist possible to get the shown data from the XDA2´s IE on the screen of a notebook? I have a wsp flatrate and want to read the text on a bigger screen......... ist that possible? does anybody have experience with this topic?
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Well, there is this remote display application at YORCH.NET
"Remote Display Control for Pocket PC
With the Remote Display Control application, you can display actions on a Pocket PC, including user input, remotely on the display of a desktop or laptop personal computer. This is a great tool for demonstrating the power of the Pocket PC to a large audience. It also allows developers to test their applications for the Pocket PC on a larger screen.
size: 712KB"
I didn't try it yet, it sounds quite interesting for multiple purposes.

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BT WModem and COM ports....

Hi All,
Thanks for all the good suggestions I've got from this site over the last couple of days. I have a new problem for you now...
I see from searching this site that loads of people have had problems using the XDA / XDA II as a wireless modem, but I can't piece together quite what I have to do to get it working with bluetooth.
I've got the pdf from the o2 site, but it's not very clear, and I think it's targeted to W2000 not XP, which is what I have.
SO..... Would somebody be kind enough to let us all know what the step-by step process is to get a laptop, for example, talking to the internet via the XDA II, via BLUETOOTH.
I have the latest o2 ROM, so I have those 2 new check boxes in Bluetooth settings. Most of the laptop setup is ok, but I think the major question is regarding the ports.....
Which port is the XDA talking on?
Which port is the laptop talking on?
How do I make them talk to each other?
And to add to this question - the o2 pdf presumably gives instructions such that we end up using the GPRS line. Can this be modified to use the cellular line to dial up a standard ISP so I can use up some of my free minutes (that's what I do when surfing on the XDA II)?
Sorry it's a bit waffly - PLEASE help! Thanks very much!
Phil
www.o2.co.uk/xda
Under the Bonnet
User Guides
Oddly enough, a file called Using Xda II as a Modem.
Worked for me.
Oddly enough... that's the pdf I'm talking about.
It's not very clear about the COM ports - it says to select the "correct COM port for your connection", so the bit I'm asking about is how to decide upon or determine which is the correct com port for my connection. The important issue here is the bluetooth communication.
It's step-by-step modem and connection guide is also incorrect for XP (mine anyway - as I said, I suspect it's written for 2000, not 2000/XP), so there could be errors in my modem setup - I need to make sure that's not the case as well.
Any more ideas?
OK - let me put this another way - Before pressing connect on the WModem program on the XDA II, do you have to setup a bluetooth serial connection to the PC? If so, HOW? How do you simply make the connection?
Please help - somebody?
Thanks,
Phil
Just to make sure we are on the same document
http://www.myxda.com/html/HowToUse/XdaII/How to setup Wireless Modem for Bluetooth.htm
You first install your bluetooth adapter on your PC and this should install a bluetooth modem on your PC. You then configure that as described in the first section "Desktop setting:" make sure you change the word internet with your service providors APN in the advanced setting string.
Thats your PC side finished for now. no connections made yet.
Ok on to the XDA II, follow the instructions in the next section "Getting Start:" Steps 1 - 6 are all on your XDA II. Now it is waiting to be a modem. Move to your PC and follow the rest of the steps and you hsould get connected.
I used the O2 free WAP APN for my connections when i set it up. This meant having to set the proxy in IE just as you do on the XDA II if you want to browse. This gives limited function for anything other than browsing but for free thats fine for me.
I have not yet tested an ISP using this method but it will be a matter of removing the advanced string in the modem settings and using your ISP details and phone number in the dial pop up instead of *99#. I have done this before with my old nokia 7650.
Also remember if dialing into an ISP like that instead you will only get 9600 baud rate as opposed to the 42k odd that GPRS will give you. However this is fine for most light emails and IMs etc.
Oh and i did bond the 2 devices first. i nearly forgot that.
I Hope this helps you get sorted.
It works fine for GPRS. However when I try to connect to an ISP, I get a "line is busy" message. Any clues?
Dingo - you're great. That's got it.
The pdf that's on the user guide section of 'under the bonnet' section in the XDA site is
http://smsgen.o2-uktech.com/xda2/Xda_II_Modem_Setup_Guide.pdf
which is NAFF!
Your instructions are much better!
I'll try the ISP method soon - I'll let you know if it works.
Cheers!
Phil
OK - looks like I've got the ISP method working.
The process on the XDA is identical, but the modem settings are slightly different. The extra initialisation string can be done away with, and in the security tab of the connection (in network connections) "typical" must be selected rather than "advanced".
Other than that, it's all the sam, for me at least. I use UK2 as my ISP. It's very handy - no registration required.
Hope this helps.
Phil
ISP works for me too. I had to change in CSD line type the data rate to 9600 bps(v.32).
Being used to ADSL, 9600 bps brings back memories
Thanks to everyone who's contributed to this thread - it's helped me connect my laptop to the net thru my XDA2 over bluetooth for the first time!
I have a couple of questions that I hope someone might clear up for me:
1. I've used "mobile.o2.co.uk" in the init string and dialled with *99# which works but the XDA doesn't show any change to the connection icon. Is it using GPRS or data over voice or magic?!
2. Although web and mail downloads works great, I can't send email - I get it returned saying '550 relay not permitted'. A port issue I guess? Can that be solved?
Thanks for your time - keep up the good work.
Andy.

Potential very noob-like question!

I've just started using my MDA Vario II at work. My problem(s) are as follows:
1) I wanted to use a remote program to access all the functions/screen of my vario from the PC - does anyone know any decent, cheap (or preferably free!) remote programs?
2) I wanted to connect it to the PC and still use my unlimited Web & Walk from T Mobile, rather than the work internet connection - but every time I connect it asks me to input details of my work proxy server. Is there any way I can stop it from doing this? Even if I don't input the details, it still doesn't connect via GPRS.
Any help would be much appreciated! I apologise if I'm asking stupid questions - I'm just fresh from the lands of SE P910i's
1) I haven't seen anything free that was realy worth it. I went ahead and bought the best one I've seen and that's SOTI PocketController. It's $35 but since I write apps for the PocketPC it was worth it. With SOTI you can take screen captures, record video of your screen, download the latest skins so it looks like your phone, get access to a command promt, task viewer and stuff like that. Your suppose to be able to connect to it over the internet as well, but I haven't got this part to work yet.
2) You can use a Bluetooth DUN (DialUpNetwork) connection from your laptop to your phone so that your laptop will use your phone as a modem if there is now WiFi connection around. I use this and it is very handy. T-Mobile's web site has the information you need for this, if you can't find it let me know and I will send you the PDF I have for it.
zakkz said:
1) I wanted to use a remote program to access all the functions/screen of my vario from the PC - does anyone know any decent, cheap (or preferably free!) remote programs?
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I use "remote display control for Pocket PC", it's free (as in beer):
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/wce/downloads/ppctoys.mspx
pof - amazing! that was exactly what I was after - thank you so so much!
as for the internet connection - I might not have explained myself properly. Basically I wanted to have my vario connected to my pc by usb, but then use the web & walk from my phone rather than the work internet connection. At the moment, whenever I connect to my work pc, and try to go onto the internet, it asks me to enter the proxy settings for my work network. I basically wanted to disable this and just use my web and walk connection. is this possible?
Thanks for your replies Codesmoke and Pof. I hope i'll be able to return te favour one day when I get to grips with this device!
Yeaaa i've also been trying to do the internet connection thing through your PC, basically leave the phone charging with USB, but active the bluetooth connection and use your phone as a modem, i never got any further than that, mainly cause the non-microsoft bluetooth stack on my computer was giving me trouble dialing up.
Put "*99#" with no speechmarks as the dial up phone number, this will dial into web and walk. Leave the username/password blank.
You could always plug your device into your laptop / computer and then Ctrl-Alt-Del and kill the process "wcescomm.exe" which will then just leave the phone charging ?

GPRS Monitor and Wireless Modem

Hi,
Is there a way to get Spb GPRS monitor to work with the wireless modem. If I connect my PC to the Internet through the wireless modem the GPRS monitor doesn't see it as a live connection and therefore doesn't log the traffic.
I was wanting the same thing so I emailed SPB directly about this and they said that this is not supported in the current version. Implying that it might be in future releases and I've asked them if this is true but they've not yet responded (was less than a week ago).
However, there are bandwidth monitors available for your PC. I have one that is free and can be set up to only monitor dial up connections. It's called NetMeter by ReadError and works fine in Vista.
new wireless modem in aku 33 - maybe the old works also???!
Hi, there...
with the new aku 3.3 (test rom) theres an new wireless modem utility inside...
on one hand thats good... on other not so good...
the good side is that it now supports bluetooth...
on other side its not longer an "modem" as it is now... its a LAN-Device thats shared the internet connectivity from the phone with the pc, like an router with inet access!!!
the good thing is that the gprs monitor just looks to the connection... since it is the normal phone mobile internet access...
the bad thin is that it no longer gives you the option trough IR Beam...
but maybe if someone can send ,or put it here online, the old hermes ´wireless modem tool it works also with the aku33???
just search in windows folder for exe and post it here... thanks
steve
^that also means no driver installation in OS of PC is any longer necassry ... ... its one of the good thins..

How to Setup Laptop to Use 3G Internet from My Cingular 8525?

Okay, I've searched for several hours so I don't act like a true newbie and ask a dumb question that's been asked a hundred times, but I can't find anything definite on this, so here goes.
I have a new Cingular 8525 and have Cingular's PDA Connect Unlimited data plan. I am in a 3G area. I have an out of the box phone with Windows Mobile 5 with no ROM updates or hacks on it.
I would like to take my laptop in the car and hook my phone to it and have my laptop use the 3G connection that my phone is providing. I know you can setup a modem connection, and I've done that, but it only connects at 115k, which is the fastest setting the modem driver and bluetooth dongle have listed. I would like to be surfing on my laptop at the 3G speeds.
I know there are implications where Cingular may or may not charge me, because I am supposed to possibly have something called the Laptop Connect plan, but lets assume that's not an issue.
Also, whichever way is easiest, I can either use my USB cord to tether my phone and laptop together or use my Bluetooth on my laptop and connect that way.
Anyone have the steps on how to make this work?
Thanks
Did you ever get this working?
I have almost the same situation: a Tom Tom GO 720 device that will talk to the 8525's Handsfree service via Blue Tooth, but says that the phone is not advertising the DUN service.
Got it working
I did two things to make it work.
First, I got Internet Sharing working by using the cabinet called UPRREY-ICS[1].cab that you can find on this forum site. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1564979#24. This will install a link to the Internet Sharing application and show it under Programs.
That made my laptop able to use the GPRS connection. This uses the Bluetooth PAN to tether the laptop and the phone. (but be careful - your plan might not allow large data transfers).
Second, I found two files, also on this forum site, called WM6_DUN.zip (or separately as BT_DUN.cab) and MODEMLINK.zip.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/misc.php?do=showattachments&t=314371
MODEMLINK.zip has a .rgu file in it that I didn't have to mess with .. I just copied the other files to the windows directory and restarted.
Now my TomTom GO 710 finds the handsfree connection, the phonebook/object connection, and the DUN service so it can get on the internet when it needs to.
Thanks to URPREY, The.Drone, and MUN for their previous posts. You rock.
Hi
I have a tomtom gps 720 that I am trying to conntect to a HTC touch diamond, downloaded the software and have placed it into my windows directory etc.. which seems to have helped as it now shows on my tomtom that my phone supports wireless data transfers, the problem I am having now is when putting the setting in the tomtom for the wireless settings my mobile of phone does not appear so I am getting up to 65% through setting it up before I run into a wall....
any further ideas?
I would suggest using the data cable method without bluetooth headaches. Diamond has a ver poor battery, so when ised with USB cable it can stay alive but ultimately your laptop battery is drained
Diamond should have built-in internet connection sharing option. Does the prompt that appears when connecting to PC have that? If not try the HTCtoUSB PopUp cabs taken from Raphel.
Regards,
Carty..
I have no problem connecting the htc diamind or the tomtom go 720 to the PC, I'm just trying to get the wireless data to work so I can send and receive text messages through the TomTom.
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Windows Mobile 6 & Extra Dial String

Hello
I am using Windows Mobile 6 and want to make a connection from my Pocket PC to the internet using my mobile phone on a Bluetooth connection, on Windows Mobile 5 I would using the 'Extra Dial String' part while making the connection to *99# but in WM6 it has disappeared therefore I cannot make any connections.
Any tips?
Ta!
Kev.
Hi Kev, no but I am also needing that, if anyone could help It will be highly appreciated...
Same here I'm afraid...
WM6 did remove DUN networking on favor of PAN. It has been hacked to get back DUN. I am on dial up tonight do not able to find links for you but look for a thread I started about TOMTOM and DUN and look for mfrazzz's response. Also you can look for menneisys (sp?) posting on pocket pc mag or somewhere where he details how to do the hack.
In WM6 is really easy..
It includes an application called "Internet Sharing" (it must be in programs).
To use it, you only have to chose in 2 combo boxes:
1- If you want to share the connection via USB or Bluetooth
2- Which network connection you want to share
Then tap on Connect, and then plug the USB cable (or connect via bluetooth).
After this, you phone would be recognized by windows as a network connection (the one you shared).
That's it...
Just keep in mind that if your connection uses a proxy, then you have to set this proxy in the program that you want to use in the PC too.
kevdyas said:
Hello
I am using Windows Mobile 6 and want to make a connection from my Pocket PC to the internet using my mobile phone on a Bluetooth connection, on Windows Mobile 5 I would using the 'Extra Dial String' part while making the connection to *99# but in WM6 it has disappeared therefore I cannot make any connections.
Any tips?
Ta!
Kev.
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hey seems u trying to connnect to idea internet connection ! well i have the same connection on the go on my pc using my universal. hey guys if u ppl get to know about it do share how do to the hack i tried dearching but cudn find much
This was a well known problem that was discussed somewhere. If I remember correctly, the idea of the solution is pretty simple, but the implementation is rather tedious.
As a matter of fact, those connection settings including extra modem init strings are stored in the HKCU-Comm->RasBook-<connection name> registry under the keys "DevCfg" and "Entry".
If you export them in ASCII, you will know what I mean. They claimed that you can export these registries (esp the "DevCfg" key) from a WM5 device (with your init strings of course), and import it back to WM6. Things would then work as you wished.
But the trouble is you got to get a WM5 machine or someone to try to do it for you.

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