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whats up all
I dont want to sound like an MDA flamer/hater, but i just wanted to suggest you guys something...
I had an MDA for more than a month, using it on cingular's network. Seeing all this ev-do, 3G expansion going around here in the states, i was just LUSTING at all this great speeds people were getting with ev-do.
So i thought: Man, im a gadget junkie, and i have a top cell phone using OLD 2G SERVICE?
Are you using a LOT of data? If your answer is yes, man, you dont know what you are missing here.
It's been a week i've got a new PPC-6700 from sprint! Its basically an MDA on steroids. And of course it's got 3G! If you use wifi on your MDA you know what to expect. except that with 3G THE WHOLE CITY IS THE HOTSPOT 8) !
let me tell you once you TOUCH this device you will never want to go back.
Yes i know cingular is rolling out 3G but it is doing so very slowly (only 16 markets compared to sprint's 150+) and by the time cingular finishes its rollout sprint will have 3.5G(ev-do rev A) started on most markets!
I got my 6700 for... ZERO DOLLARS AND NO CENTS, all instant rebates, no mail in whatsoever :shock:
Theres one guy on ebay very reputable called "sprintnetwork" that overnights you one if you have good to excellent credit and signs a contract for a new line of service to sprint. All i had to do was call and get approved and the next day i had the phone.
I don't know but this was such an awesome deal... If any of you guys want to surf a broadband speeds, reliably watch orb, use logmein, even skype, all without wifi.... I don't think there is one better way than to do this now. All that without even spending more than $200.
So bye, im a stranger here now, now im a member of the HTC apache forum! hehe :twisted:
Ps.: i said $200 because i had to pay $175 early termination :?
6700 with Sprint PCS..is it true 3G?
Looks like this 6700 is 3G. But if its running on Sprint..its not GSM
and Sprint PCS is very very OLD technology now.
I cannot use it in EU/Asia so stick with the MDA
Thanks
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ditto what the pp said... being US only is too restrictive for my needs... I'm now looking for a quad band + 3G (not a tri-band + 3G = quad band) phone from Asia. I hear I can then use it in Japan also...
ikkoku said:
ditto what the pp said... being US only is too restrictive for my needs... I'm now looking for a quad band + 3G (not a tri-band + 3G = quad band) phone from Asia. I hear I can then use it in Japan also...
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To my best knowledge, the biggest Japanese wireless providers uses a proprietary service... not sure though
yeah....
well, i got t-mobile so i have EDGE witch is a G3 service. Plus, i get to keep my MDA vario so i dotn have that REDICULOUS looking antenna on my phone. Im happy with my mda, so ha
yeah....
well, i got t-mobile so i have EDGE witch is a G3 service. Plus, i get to keep my MDA vario so i dotn have that REDICULOUS looking antenna on my phone. Im happy with my mda, so ha
I’m thinking about buying a cingular 8525 phone, but I am currently under the old ATT network and have the a ATT sim card. I have not switched my service to cingular. If the phone is unlocked will the 3G service work with the old ATT sim card? I spoke with a cingular/ATT customer service agent today and they said I need to have the new upgrade cingular 3G sim card for this service. Does anyone have an old ATT sim that works with the 3G service? Thanks
YOU NEED to migrate over to cingular at&t doesen't work on 3g it works on 1900 mhz thats why your service sucks in doors . cingular will make you sign on a 2 year contract and you WILL NOT be able to keep your same plan, but the service is so much better on Cingular
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YOU NEED to migrate over to cingular at&t doesen't work on 3g it works on 1900 mhz thats why your service sucks in doors . cingular will make you sign on a 2 year contract and you WILL NOT be able to keep your same plan, but the service is so much better on Cingular
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I can't address whether or not a blue sim will work on 3G, but it stands to reason that it won't. However, if you're saying that AWS only works on 1900 MHz, I have to disagree. I have used blue sims in several phones, including an 8125 that was unlocked, and know by the buzzing interference they cause, confirmed by the test mode on a couple of Nokias and the 8125, that they worked on 850 MHz when it was available.
Be that as it may, I just got an orange-sim'ed 8525 a few days ago and am very impressed with the increased receive sensitivity and audio quality. I'm looking forward to trying it in a 2G area, but I'll have to travel a bit to do that - I live in a GSM-only service area.
(What color are the NEW sims going to be? Light blue? )
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I’m thinking about buying a cingular 8525 phone, but I am currently under the old ATT network and have the a ATT sim card. I have not switched my service to cingular. If the phone is unlocked will the 3G service work with the old ATT sim card? I spoke with a cingular/ATT customer service agent today and they said I need to have the new upgrade cingular 3G sim card for this service. Does anyone have an old ATT sim that works with the 3G service? Thanks
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To directly answer your question, I have a TyTn with a old AT&T wireless SIM and it works fine with 3G on Cingular. So the answer is you don't need a new SIM for it to work. But you might run into the same problem I did. I previously had an 8525, bought just before xmas. I tried to unlock it with the free program offered here and was unsuccessful. It seemed like it was radio locked like the new Softbank X01HTs and I don't think there's a solution for that yet, or coming anytime soon. I ended up just returning the 8525 and buying an unlocked TyTn. It might have just been my bad luck with that one particular 8525, or it might be that Cingular is now selling all of them radio locked like the X01HT to prevent them from being SIM unlocked. I have no idea which case is true. Just a warning of what you might be in for if you don't buy an already unlocked 8525 or a TyTn.
As I understood Cingular is now AT&T again starting Monday. Should help with compatibility, right ?
I spoke to another Cingular/ATT agent last night about 3G service with the ATT sim. They said that it might work, but would work better with a Cingular sim. It depended if the old ATT towers had the 3G service installed on them. It sounded to me like they were guessing. I have a great ATT plan so I do not want to switch over to Cingular. Currently I have a I-mate K-jam with an ATT sim card and it works great with the Edge. On the subject of the TyTn I looked in to buying one, but if it breaks I have to ship it to Wales for warranty work according to HTC. I live in the U.S. So I was thinking about a JasJam or 8525. Thanks for your help
My Tytn works on 3G with the old school AT&T sim. I can't really speak on the reliability because i was only in a 3G area for a brief enough moment to test it.
gmkelly001 said:
I previously had an 8525, bought just before xmas. I tried to unlock it with the free program offered here and was unsuccessful.
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Just call Cingular and ask them for the unlock code. They had no issues giving me the unlock code. Unlocked just fine.
Thanks for the info.. Seems like the customer service people are just trying to make me switch to Cingular.
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Just call Cingular and ask them for the unlock code. They had no issues giving me the unlock code. Unlocked just fine.
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I tried that twice, maybe I was just unlucky again but they wouldn't give me the code either time. Doesn't matter now that I have a TyTn though.
My boss just go the unlock code from cingular by saying that he travels to other countries a lot. They made him wait like 2 days and they emailed it to him.
Ok, One person says it does not work, one says it does. Does anyone else have any experience with this? Just would like to know for sure before I go out and buy it.
Thanks
It does work for me just fine with white ATTW sim card. No problems whatsoever.
Maddog468 said:
Ok, One person says it does not work, one says it does. Does anyone else have any experience with this? Just would like to know for sure before I go out and buy it.
Thanks
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I am using unlimited Mmode plan ($24.99) with a Blue ATT SIM older than the white SIM and it works with no problems.
The new sim has more storage space on it.
That is all I know.
I'd really like to figure out what else is different as well.
Same here. Getting UTMS/3G connection (comfirmed with 128k stream from radioio) with blue AT&T sim on a 24.99 unlimited mmode plan. HTC branded TyTN from egadgetdepot. What's more, my EDGE throughput is noticably higher than on my Treo 650.
Thanks for your help.
Some of you still have the 24.99 internet plan for smart phone. I think I pay something like 45.99 a month for my K-Jam. I had the 24.99 plan but they made me change it because I told them I had a K-Jam. I needed help configuring my K-Jam. The tech person told me I had the wrong plan and I would be charge a lot of money for have the wrong plan. Thats how they found out and I was unsure at the time so I just when with it.
Again, thanks for your help.
I heard there was an Audit department which would find out..
I argued about the plan change myself for over an hour with them.
I had a PDA phone before and I did not have to switch..
I still got full internet and they didn't know JACK!
Anyway.. I got a credit of 20 bucks a month for 1 year..
So I am paying the same for unlimited except now I need to pay for Text Messages..
After the year is up I'll probably change the service again to something else..
They also were try sell a plan for my notebook computer for 70 bucks a month. Since then I have used my pda a modem and had no extra charges
hey guys, i might be buying an 8525 soon, and i'm just wondering two things:
1- does cingular unlock it for me (my wife uses cingular, and was just gonna get her to call in and unlock it for me), otherwise, what reputable place to you guys advise?
2- once i'm on tmobile, will i have 3G speeds? will the internet work if i have an internet plan?
3- also the guy is asking for 280, he says barely used for a month, what do u think about that?
thanks for all ur help!!
omar
I think you should buy one from Cingular for 199 bucks.. if your wife is eligible for an upgrade it would cost you 217 bucks for a refurbished 8525 <I paid 99 bucks for mine, before they realized it was too cheap>
Cingular will only unlock it if you are going out of the country for an extended period of time, or if you are not currently under contract with them.. I think the initial 2 years of the contract has to have been expired..
The 3G thing, I'm not sure..
hey, i went online and the 8525 is 299 with a 2 yr contract. i dunno if my wife is elgible for an upgrade, i'll call and ask, but even then, i'd prefer to pay less to get it without extending her contract for 2 yrs..
and i'll just tell cingular i'm going out of teh country...
omaralt said:
hey guys, i might be buying an 8525 soon, and i'm just wondering two things:
1- does cingular unlock it for me (my wife uses cingular, and was just gonna get her to call in and unlock it for me), otherwise, what reputable place to you guys advise?
2- once i'm on tmobile, will i have 3G speeds? will the internet work if i have an internet plan?
3- also the guy is asking for 280, he says barely used for a month, what do u think about that?
thanks for all ur help!!
omar
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1. If you buy it, you can follow the instructions on this site to unlock it, here.
2. T-Mobile is currently upgrading their network to support 3G speeds. If you have an internet plan... OF COURSE THE INTERNET WILL WORK!
3. $280 is a really good price, I'd take it. Madcap mentioned $199, but that's only if you get a new plan with ATT or renew your current one (which you will be doing neither).
Good luck!
Yeah, true, I had to add a new line.. and now I just looked they dont even have refurbished 8525's anymore.. when they were selling for 99 bucks everyone must have bought them.. lol..
Taurus, ur 8125 and 8525 really get stolen?
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Taurus, ur 8125 and 8525 really get stolen?
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Yeah, they sure did. I'm pretty bummed about it.
you'll only get EDGE speed, not 3G and even when Tmobile releases its 3G service, the 8525 doesn't have the right radio or whatever to get that (tmobile's 3g will use 1700)
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you'll only get EDGE speed, not 3G and even when Tmobile releases its 3G service, the 8525 doesn't have the right radio or whatever to get that (tmobile's 3g will use 1700)
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correct
i was just going to post that
How the heck did they BOTH get stolen? You get broken into or something? wow.. Are you getting them replaced?
Unlocking the 8125 and 8525 is trivial, as others have mentioned. You don't need to contact AT&T to do it, and likely anyone you talk to in their customer service department will have no idea what you're talking about....
I have an older 8125 that I unlocked and am using it with TMobile now. I'm still using the Cingular ROM on it, too, and everything works on it. I just had to go into all of the telephone options and click on "Get Settings" for every option to retrieve the proper settings for TMobile. However, I didn't provision it with a data plan, I just use WiFi with it.
You can probably live without 3G, as I'm sure you've discovered by now that internet browsing really sucks on these things, and email doesn't require much bandwidth.
im really excited that 3G finally is coming to T-Mobile.
but at the same time, im curious and anxious if my 8525 will run on T-Mob's..
reading the posts above, 8525 will never get the 1700 Mhz signal, but I read around that T-Mob also bought the 2100 Mhz spectrum, and doesnt 8525 has the radio to jump on to that bandwith too right?
i thought i asked you guys who might know a few more things than i do..
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im really excited that 3G finally is coming to T-Mobile.but at the same time, im curious and anxious if my 8525 will run on T-Mob's..reading the posts above, 8525 will never get the 1700 Mhz signal, but I read around that T-Mob also bought the 2100 Mhz spectrum, and doesnt 8525 has the radio to jump on to that bandwith too right?i thought i asked you guys who might know a few more things than i do..
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unfortunately, it doesn't look like it will work without 1700: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2476498
awww crap..
but why is that though?
i mean, why do they need 1700 Mhz AND 2100 Mhz freq to operate..?
Hi,
i dont want to use t-Mobile but not sure if HD2 can be used in ATT 3G. Is this possible?
Thanks.
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No.
EDGE for AT&T.
No.
You'll need to buy one from Australia.
Look at at&t's 3G bands, and T-Mobile US 3G bands. Then you will understand why. . .
It may have both chips inside. We need dig it to find out.
Damn it Tito, you broke the trend!
my father is a businessman and he has a extra line open on his t-mobile family plan account that no one uses... it doesn't even have a phone ... he keeps it open just in case one of his clients need to use a phone number when they are on business ventures together.. either way.. i'm ATT and personally i love it.. i think ATT is one of the best phone service providers as far as reception and network speeds... customer service is another issue lol... but either way... as a student i'm spending way too much money on my phone bill.. $130 every month for ATT (I pay for it) My father actually wants me to go over to t-mobile and take that free line that he has open...
now my sister who lives in my apartment with me.. she has t-mobile and the reception at home totally sucks... its about 1-3 bars and the call quality isn't even that great... but if i decide to take that line.. that means i no longer have to pay for my phone bill.. which totally rocks... but i can't get over the fact that i'm gonna lose the ability of having full bars everywhere i went... the only reason why i actually decided to go through with it... is the HD2... if the HD2 was exclusively for ATT or something.. i would've just stuck with my 130 monthly bill... the fact that its exclusively for t-mobile makes my decision not as horrible...
yea.. pointless story... but i felt like sharing.. sorry for hijacking thread...
cellneuron said:
It may have both chips inside. We need dig it to find out.
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Interesting. Have anyone tried this?
sundar_amn said:
Interesting. Have anyone tried this?
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It doesn't. Supported frequencies on the US HD2 are 1700/2100, Euro & Asia spec one is 900/2100, the Telstra one is 850/2100 so that supports ATT 3G, and your only option.
You gotta pay to play.
Hello guys I have been a HTC guy since I got my very first TIlt, then my FUZE, and my PURE. All of these phone were ATT branded, and I used the 10/month medianet plan.
They are now catching on and have changed my plan to the 30/month one. I do not like this since I do not really use the web. So I did some research and need your help.
I know if I get a T-Mobile branded one I wont get 3G, butt what if I get a non branded HD2, would I get 3G then?
If I were to get a T-Mobile or a non branded HD2 would ATT still change my medianet plan to a PDA plan? I know they are doing this with non branded Nexus 1 phones but I am unsure about HD2.
If you have this with ATT tell me how you use it, do you have 3G, what web plan do you or if you do not.
Thanks, I hope on buying one of these soon.
well i'm a att guy... but.. i'm going over to t-mobile.. due to this phone... cheers
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well i'm a att guy... but.. i'm going over to t-mobile.. due to this phone... cheers
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I know what you mean dawg but T-mobile has poor service in my area, they only offer edge.
I am switching to T-Mobile for the HD2, and the cheaper prices, Las Vegas has a big blanket of 3G from all carriers, at&t has been sucky lately due to the iPhone.
Even though they where my first carrier(Original at&t), they wont be my last. I cant wait to go Magenta.
As for your situation, you might have to settle for the retail price then just unlock it, since the service on edge for at&t rather than on T-Mobile.
i have it on AT&T i get 3G speeds in san diego just fine works great. my version is the australian version from telstra.
been using the european version with at&t and edge speeds are fine (have access to wifi at work and home). i have been paying for the $10 data plan since October/November with no problems. At&t website lists the phone i am using as other after i had selected an old motorola razor i was using previously. So i am not sure how they detected and switched you over to their smartphone plan.
You'll need the Australian Telstra version to get ATT 3g. It costs like $800 for imported versions though.
I have been using my Euro version HD2 since Dec with ATT. Have been paying $10/month for data. Just signed another 2 yr contract with the Nazi's (yea, I know) and got a free Blackberry. When I registered the Blackberry.....or activated it with the new sim ATT had in it, I got a text saying I needed to pay for the $30 data plan. Long story short......I told them I wont be using the new phone, I will be using my HD2 that I have been using. Gave them the IMEI and they said that it was not considered a smart phone. They are such geniuses! Even though it is EDGE, I am quite happy with it.
I also called the next day and explained how I travel international a lot, and asked to get the unlock code for the new Blackberry. Had the code the next day, unlocked it, so I guess I will sell it and try to recoup what I am going pay over the next 2 years!
Been using my European HD2 since they first came out, on AT&T.
Works just fine.
They found out because, chances are, your phone is not SIM unlock...or you somehow stupidly give them your IMEI number. If you want to get back on the old $10/$15 medianet plan, call them up and tell them that you're using some old phone (like a razr) and would like to get out of the PDA/smartphone data plan.
I'm on AT&T ($15 medianet) and I would never think about jumping to a worser carrier/service over a phone. That's retarded.
^^ how about for a free phone bill??
as i said i'm att right now.. but i spend about 130 a month which is frickin insane... as a student.. my father offered me one of his lines that he has open anyways (kept open in case one of his clients needed a temp phone or service) and because he's already paying for it regardless.. i get it free of charge.. which in my opinion totally rocks... PLUS i get the HD2 which makes the situation even better....
but no, personally i rather keep att... the call quality and reception is just so good everywhere... i never drop calls.. nor does my antenna recieve less then full bars... and i have done my fair share of research.. and t-mobile's reception is kinda bad... and in my apartment complex.. (my sis has tmobile) i'll probably manage about 2-3 bars... yea.. totally sucks.... but as i said before.. free phone bill...cheers
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They found out because, chances are, your phone is not SIM unlock...or you somehow stupidly give them your IMEI number. If you want to get back on the old $10/$15 medianet plan, call them up and tell them that you're using some old phone (like a razr) and would like to get out of the PDA/smartphone data plan.
I'm on AT&T ($15 medianet) and I would never think about jumping to a worser carrier/service over a phone. That's retarded.
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I called them up and gave them a IMEI from a LG shine I had. I never told them I had a pda. The reason they knew I was on a pure was because the pure I had was branded by ATT.
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I called them up and gave them a IMEI from a LG shine I had. I never told them I had a pda. The reason they knew I was on a pure was because the pure I had was branded by ATT.
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Like i said, it's probably because the pure wasn't sim unlocked since it's AT&T branded (meaning that they already have the IMEI for that particular phone). I always keep a few unlocked dumbphones around (samsung x820 and samsung u600) just in case I run into situation like this...
AT&T service in Northern Chicagoland area simply sucks. I have AT&T phone from work and use T-Mobile as my personal phone service carrier - cannot compare at all. AT&T 3G appears to be somehwat faster (in miliseconds) but no drastic speed difference between the two.
Where do people recommend buying a Telstra HD2 and having it shipped to the U.S.?
Thx
I tried the TMO HD2 today and Tmo's signal sucks in my area.
I have a telsa hd2 and i use it on att and i get 3g coverage. it works fine. the only i dont like is i cant access the media mall that att users use to download games and apps.