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Taking an Exec to the US: worthwhile???

Hey guys.
I'm just about up for an upgrade with O2 from my XDAs (which I adore, even though I use like 10% of its capabilities!!) but the problem is that I'm living in the US now. So, I really want the Exec, as it'll save me lugging a laptop about, but am worried that it'll get uber expensive to run here, due to crazy roaming costs.
I'm thinking about changing my tarrif over to a "Data Only" with 5mb per month, at some 8 Pounds a month, but am I right in saying that as soon as I log on to GPRS in the US that I'll be charged "Roaming" fees and that my 5mb will go untouched? If so, is there anyway to get around this, as I like the look and the functionality of the Exec, but don't really have a desire to fork out $1000 for one! Are there going to be any compatability issues in using a UK handset as a main device in the US? Are O2 going to let me swop from my 200 Minutes plan to an Online plan that costs just 8 Pounds? Are there any requirements to being a "Business User"? I've Emailed O2, but to say that they were unhelpful is a huge understatement and then some!!
Lastly: can I play Java games on it/my XDA? Whenever I go to an onlione store with Java games, all of the handsets I see are Motorola and Nokia, etc, and never an XDA. I'm asuming that it must be able to play them, but does anyone have any comments or tips on the process? Thanks guys.

Why dont you just use a sim card from the US depending on where you go you can just buy a sim card if your phone is unlocked hope that help

Hmm. Okay, I think that that would make sense (tbh, I hadn't thought of that!). Okay, is the Exec unlockable? If so, how does one go about it? IE: is it an easy process?

The Exec should already be unlocked: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=30330

yes all execs are unlocked. I have a spare one if you are willing to buy.

Hi GadgetGirl: thanks for the tip and link. I'll check it out.
Zillocx: thanks man, but I already have a line on one. Thanks for the offer though.

Teflon,
be sure to consider a T-Mobile USA SIM since T-Mobile uses GSM 1900 only which is the only US band that the Exec supports. Cingular uses GSM 850/1900 in most major US markets so you'd experience inconsistent since the Exec doesn't have GSM 850. T-Mobile USA is also the best US GSM network to use for data. They have unlimited data plans if you sign a contract with them. If I recall correctly, the unlimited plans run between $19.99 and $49.99 (Unlimited Internet Plan) per month.
http://www.t-mobile.com/services/webandinfo.asp (T-Zones Mobile Web Plan, $5.99/month)
http://www.t-mobile.com/plans/default.asp?tab=internet

I use a universal (Jasjar) and I live in the US, so I can tell you that it's definitely worthwhile I can also give you a bit of advice about a service provider...
Your two options for GSM providers are T-Mobile and Cingular. Like Triband said, T-Mobile only uses 1900MHz, so you know you'll get a signal as long as T-Mobile has coverage there. Cingular uses both 850MHz and 1900MHz, so you can run into some issues with Cingular. Generally, however, in the cities and more populated areas Cingular will have 1900MHz coverage while rural areas are more likely to be 850MHz only. Overall Cingular has better coverage then T-Mobile, but unfortunately there are no maps or anything available to consumers that show where they have 1900MHz coverage and where it is only 850MHz. I'm using Cingular with my Jasjar and I've had very few coverage problems.
Prepaid service in the US is considerably more than it would be with a contract, so if you're going to be in the US for a while, or you will be using your phone a lot you might not want to go prepaid (although I'm sure its much less than international roaming). Here Cingular has an advantage because they'll let you sign a month to month contract where you can cancel whenever you want. With T-Mobile you must sign a contract for a full year.
Please let me know if you have any other questions
Brett

Hi BrettS, where did you bought the Jasjar?

cktlcmd said:
Hi BrettS, where did you bought the Jasjar?
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I got mine from Expansys USA http://www.expansys-usa.com/
Brett

Hey guys,
Well, I just got married, so I'll be living in the US on a permanent basis. I'm towards the East Coast (New Haven, to be exact). My wife is American, and she's with Cingular, so that may be the way to go as calls between us would be free, from what she tells me. I'll do some detailed research into it, although further comments would be appreciated. I'll check out those links too. Now, if I can just get O2 to stop being such asses I'll be a happy man!!

BrettS said:
I got mine from Expansys USA http://www.expansys-usa.com/
Brett
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Do they have warranty on it or does I-mate honor the warranty no matter where you bought the unit? I saw that the I-mate Phone store has it too for 1200 USD. Why did you not bought it from them and opted for expansysUSA?

cktlcmd,
I have a Jasjar as well and I also got it from expansys. I use expansys because I purchased the previous two devices (XDA, I-mate PocketPC Phone ) from them. During my purchase of the Pocket PC phone, I original got the Qtek 2020 and I was not happy. They took it back and sent me the I-mate version without any issues. Overall all accessories and devices purchased from them have been a good experience. In all cases they did honor their 15 days policies if the product did not perform as expected.
Teflon, I am using Cingular and they seems to have the best coverage for GSM in the US. I am located in the East Coast.

To all USA users!

whats up all
I dont want to sound like an MDA flamer/hater, but i just wanted to suggest you guys something...
I had an MDA for more than a month, using it on cingular's network. Seeing all this ev-do, 3G expansion going around here in the states, i was just LUSTING at all this great speeds people were getting with ev-do.
So i thought: Man, im a gadget junkie, and i have a top cell phone using OLD 2G SERVICE?
Are you using a LOT of data? If your answer is yes, man, you dont know what you are missing here.
It's been a week i've got a new PPC-6700 from sprint! Its basically an MDA on steroids. And of course it's got 3G! If you use wifi on your MDA you know what to expect. except that with 3G THE WHOLE CITY IS THE HOTSPOT 8) !
let me tell you once you TOUCH this device you will never want to go back.
Yes i know cingular is rolling out 3G but it is doing so very slowly (only 16 markets compared to sprint's 150+) and by the time cingular finishes its rollout sprint will have 3.5G(ev-do rev A) started on most markets!
I got my 6700 for... ZERO DOLLARS AND NO CENTS, all instant rebates, no mail in whatsoever :shock:
Theres one guy on ebay very reputable called "sprintnetwork" that overnights you one if you have good to excellent credit and signs a contract for a new line of service to sprint. All i had to do was call and get approved and the next day i had the phone.
I don't know but this was such an awesome deal... If any of you guys want to surf a broadband speeds, reliably watch orb, use logmein, even skype, all without wifi.... I don't think there is one better way than to do this now. All that without even spending more than $200.
So bye, im a stranger here now, now im a member of the HTC apache forum! hehe :twisted:
Ps.: i said $200 because i had to pay $175 early termination :?

6700 with Sprint PCS..is it true 3G?
Looks like this 6700 is 3G. But if its running on Sprint..its not GSM
and Sprint PCS is very very OLD technology now.
I cannot use it in EU/Asia so stick with the MDA
Thanks
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ditto what the pp said... being US only is too restrictive for my needs... I'm now looking for a quad band + 3G (not a tri-band + 3G = quad band) phone from Asia. I hear I can then use it in Japan also...

ikkoku said:
ditto what the pp said... being US only is too restrictive for my needs... I'm now looking for a quad band + 3G (not a tri-band + 3G = quad band) phone from Asia. I hear I can then use it in Japan also...
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To my best knowledge, the biggest Japanese wireless providers uses a proprietary service... not sure though

yeah....
well, i got t-mobile so i have EDGE witch is a G3 service. Plus, i get to keep my MDA vario so i dotn have that REDICULOUS looking antenna on my phone. Im happy with my mda, so ha

yeah....
well, i got t-mobile so i have EDGE witch is a G3 service. Plus, i get to keep my MDA vario so i dotn have that REDICULOUS looking antenna on my phone. Im happy with my mda, so ha

Cingular 8525 3G service with a ATT sim card

I’m thinking about buying a cingular 8525 phone, but I am currently under the old ATT network and have the a ATT sim card. I have not switched my service to cingular. If the phone is unlocked will the 3G service work with the old ATT sim card? I spoke with a cingular/ATT customer service agent today and they said I need to have the new upgrade cingular 3G sim card for this service. Does anyone have an old ATT sim that works with the 3G service? Thanks

YOU NEED to migrate over to cingular at&t doesen't work on 3g it works on 1900 mhz thats why your service sucks in doors . cingular will make you sign on a 2 year contract and you WILL NOT be able to keep your same plan, but the service is so much better on Cingular

insanenyc said:
YOU NEED to migrate over to cingular at&t doesen't work on 3g it works on 1900 mhz thats why your service sucks in doors . cingular will make you sign on a 2 year contract and you WILL NOT be able to keep your same plan, but the service is so much better on Cingular
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I can't address whether or not a blue sim will work on 3G, but it stands to reason that it won't. However, if you're saying that AWS only works on 1900 MHz, I have to disagree. I have used blue sims in several phones, including an 8125 that was unlocked, and know by the buzzing interference they cause, confirmed by the test mode on a couple of Nokias and the 8125, that they worked on 850 MHz when it was available.
Be that as it may, I just got an orange-sim'ed 8525 a few days ago and am very impressed with the increased receive sensitivity and audio quality. I'm looking forward to trying it in a 2G area, but I'll have to travel a bit to do that - I live in a GSM-only service area.
(What color are the NEW sims going to be? Light blue? )

Maddog468 said:
I’m thinking about buying a cingular 8525 phone, but I am currently under the old ATT network and have the a ATT sim card. I have not switched my service to cingular. If the phone is unlocked will the 3G service work with the old ATT sim card? I spoke with a cingular/ATT customer service agent today and they said I need to have the new upgrade cingular 3G sim card for this service. Does anyone have an old ATT sim that works with the 3G service? Thanks
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To directly answer your question, I have a TyTn with a old AT&T wireless SIM and it works fine with 3G on Cingular. So the answer is you don't need a new SIM for it to work. But you might run into the same problem I did. I previously had an 8525, bought just before xmas. I tried to unlock it with the free program offered here and was unsuccessful. It seemed like it was radio locked like the new Softbank X01HTs and I don't think there's a solution for that yet, or coming anytime soon. I ended up just returning the 8525 and buying an unlocked TyTn. It might have just been my bad luck with that one particular 8525, or it might be that Cingular is now selling all of them radio locked like the X01HT to prevent them from being SIM unlocked. I have no idea which case is true. Just a warning of what you might be in for if you don't buy an already unlocked 8525 or a TyTn.

As I understood Cingular is now AT&T again starting Monday. Should help with compatibility, right ?

I spoke to another Cingular/ATT agent last night about 3G service with the ATT sim. They said that it might work, but would work better with a Cingular sim. It depended if the old ATT towers had the 3G service installed on them. It sounded to me like they were guessing. I have a great ATT plan so I do not want to switch over to Cingular. Currently I have a I-mate K-jam with an ATT sim card and it works great with the Edge. On the subject of the TyTn I looked in to buying one, but if it breaks I have to ship it to Wales for warranty work according to HTC. I live in the U.S. So I was thinking about a JasJam or 8525. Thanks for your help

My Tytn works on 3G with the old school AT&T sim. I can't really speak on the reliability because i was only in a 3G area for a brief enough moment to test it.

gmkelly001 said:
I previously had an 8525, bought just before xmas. I tried to unlock it with the free program offered here and was unsuccessful.
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Just call Cingular and ask them for the unlock code. They had no issues giving me the unlock code. Unlocked just fine.

Thanks for the info.. Seems like the customer service people are just trying to make me switch to Cingular.

derekmg said:
Just call Cingular and ask them for the unlock code. They had no issues giving me the unlock code. Unlocked just fine.
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I tried that twice, maybe I was just unlucky again but they wouldn't give me the code either time. Doesn't matter now that I have a TyTn though.

My boss just go the unlock code from cingular by saying that he travels to other countries a lot. They made him wait like 2 days and they emailed it to him.

Ok, One person says it does not work, one says it does. Does anyone else have any experience with this? Just would like to know for sure before I go out and buy it.
Thanks

It does work for me just fine with white ATTW sim card. No problems whatsoever.

Maddog468 said:
Ok, One person says it does not work, one says it does. Does anyone else have any experience with this? Just would like to know for sure before I go out and buy it.
Thanks
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I am using unlimited Mmode plan ($24.99) with a Blue ATT SIM older than the white SIM and it works with no problems.

The new sim has more storage space on it.
That is all I know.
I'd really like to figure out what else is different as well.

Same here. Getting UTMS/3G connection (comfirmed with 128k stream from radioio) with blue AT&T sim on a 24.99 unlimited mmode plan. HTC branded TyTN from egadgetdepot. What's more, my EDGE throughput is noticably higher than on my Treo 650.

Thanks for your help.
Some of you still have the 24.99 internet plan for smart phone. I think I pay something like 45.99 a month for my K-Jam. I had the 24.99 plan but they made me change it because I told them I had a K-Jam. I needed help configuring my K-Jam. The tech person told me I had the wrong plan and I would be charge a lot of money for have the wrong plan. Thats how they found out and I was unsure at the time so I just when with it.
Again, thanks for your help.

I heard there was an Audit department which would find out..
I argued about the plan change myself for over an hour with them.
I had a PDA phone before and I did not have to switch..
I still got full internet and they didn't know JACK!
Anyway.. I got a credit of 20 bucks a month for 1 year..
So I am paying the same for unlimited except now I need to pay for Text Messages..
After the year is up I'll probably change the service again to something else..

They also were try sell a plan for my notebook computer for 70 bucks a month. Since then I have used my pda a modem and had no extra charges

Unbranded HTC HD2 work on T-Mobile USA 3G Network? (please read/help)

hello, im currently a tmobile coustomer, isaw that the hd2 will be coming out during spring, may to be more exact. but i cant wait about 6 months, im dying to buy one, my question is if ibuy an unbraded htc hd2, will it work on tmobiles 3G network? since tmobile will be realsing it in spring?
help anybody,
thanks in advance..

No.
T-Mobile uses 1700 and 2100 UMTS. Current HD2s will only support the 2100 band, and T-Mobile -- uniquely -- requires both bands because one is bound to upstream and the other to downstream.
You'll have to wait for the T-Mobile HD2 if you want 3G.

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No.
T-Mobile uses 1700 and 2100 UMTS. Current HD2s will only support the 2100 band, and T-Mobile -- uniquely -- requires both bands because one is bound to upstream and the other to downstream.
You'll have to wait for the T-Mobile HD2 if you want 3G.
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ohh i see, guess will have to wait 6months, thank you for your help.

just to be sure, the bands are a hardware thing? or a software thing?

It's a hardware thing, I'm on T-Mobile with just EDGE speeds but works well enough for me, I don't need much on the data end.
btw, I couldn't even wait til it hit the states...

mhmobile said:
It's a hardware thing, I'm on T-Mobile with just EDGE speeds but works well enough for me, I don't need much on the data end.
btw, I couldn't even wait til it hit the states...
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ooo, yea but for me data nd 3g or HSUPA is a big deal, so iguess im goin to have to wail till tmobile releases the us version.
just wondering at what website did you purchase yours? and how much u paid for yours, ive seen in many sites there about $690

I bought an import HD2 from the UK and use T-Mobile network in the US.Where I live (Texas) it logs in on the E network band, but recently made a trip to San Antonio and it logged in on 3G.

TMOUS w/ EDGE
Same as above... I am on TMO US with Edge and its working fine for me. I also couldn't wait till it hits US.
BTW I have the unlimited Edge plan for $5.99 ( grand-fathered plan ) so I am happy and works better for me instead of switching to thr $29.99 plan.
I use epc.tmobile.com as the APN and speeds are decent.
Arvin

S3BAZ10 said:
hello, im currently a tmobile coustomer, isaw that the hd2 will be coming out during spring, may to be more exact. but i cant wait about 6 months, im dying to buy one, my question is if ibuy an unbraded htc hd2, will it work on tmobiles 3G network? since tmobile will be realsing it in spring?
help anybody,
thanks in advance..
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Here you go.....
Expansys USA
http://www.expansys-usa.com/d.aspx?i=188312&se=s3855
INTEGRON TECHNOLOGIES, INC.
http://www.integrontech.com/HTC-HD2.../htc-hd2.htm?gclid=CJiwrNmnr58CFVFM5QodwDHE1g

Not sure where you got the "May" timeline, as I'm pretty sure it's gonna come out in March (mid-end of).

S3BAZ10 said:
hello, im currently a tmobile coustomer, isaw that the hd2 will be coming out during spring, may to be more exact. but i cant wait about 6 months, im dying to buy one, my question is if ibuy an unbraded htc hd2, will it work on tmobiles 3G network? since tmobile will be realsing it in spring?
help anybody,
thanks in advance..
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BTW, if you look you will see that the phone is available NOW (May??)

taz357 said:
BTW, if you look you will see that the phone is available NOW (May??)
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Maybe you're looking at a European Tmobile, because it definitely is not out in the US.

yea ithink it was in pocketnow.com where i had read that, in spring in may something like that,
and yea im really dying for one =/
and for ambler11 nd arvi007 idk if should get one imported..because 3g is a big deal as i stated before. does the gps work good? stable? youtube? file downloading?
and are you guys on stock roms? or cooked?
thank you all for replying, and helping me.

If data is a big deal for you wait, you've waited this long...
I am in the same boat, I could import now and keep ATT edge, or wait for it to hit T-mo and switch over to a contract free plan. As I use a ton of data a month I will be waiting for full 3g.
If you live in area's with wifi you can mooch off of that, sadly most of the places I am do not provide that so its 3g all the way.

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If data is a big deal for you wait, you've waited this long...
I am in the same boat, I could import now and keep ATT edge, or wait for it to hit T-mo and switch over to a contract free plan. As I use a ton of data a month I will be waiting for full 3g.
If you live in area's with wifi you can mooch off of that, sadly most of the places I am do not provide that so its 3g all the way.
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yup its gonna be 6 long months, but its going to be worth it. =]
thank you all once again.

just wait for 1 month u will be happy

rooster_yang said:
just wait for 1 month u will be happy
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1 month? why one month? lol

ok so iwas just walking around the mall today (sawgrass mills in florida) and there is this store were they sell all kinds of phones and electronics, they have all the line of HTCs phones and iwas very suprised to see the HD2 so iwent to ask how much it was and they told me it was $1,000 i was like :O i asked them if it was the US version and they said yes, they told me it worked on all 3G networks, so iasked them to let me see it and put my SIM card in (tmobile) so itryed it out, and all i got was full EDGE they said it was my sim card, and stuff, i looked at the most and said EURO Version and showed me only the 2100 bands.
bunch of liars and rip offs. -_-

S3BAZ10 said:
hello, im currently a tmobile coustomer, isaw that the hd2 will be coming out during spring, may to be more exact. but i cant wait about 6 months, im dying to buy one, my question is if ibuy an unbraded htc hd2, will it work on tmobiles 3G network? since tmobile will be realsing it in spring?
help anybody,
thanks in advance..
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I have one it does but unfourtantley I dont have an 3g signal and I already talked to tmobile they put insurance on my phone so when the 3G version comes out I will be able to swap it for that one instead of paying extra for it.

Will T-Mobile US HD2 work on ATT 3G?

Hi,
i dont want to use t-Mobile but not sure if HD2 can be used in ATT 3G. Is this possible?
Thanks.

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No.
EDGE for AT&T.

No.
You'll need to buy one from Australia.

Look at at&t's 3G bands, and T-Mobile US 3G bands. Then you will understand why. . .

It may have both chips inside. We need dig it to find out.

Damn it Tito, you broke the trend!

my father is a businessman and he has a extra line open on his t-mobile family plan account that no one uses... it doesn't even have a phone ... he keeps it open just in case one of his clients need to use a phone number when they are on business ventures together.. either way.. i'm ATT and personally i love it.. i think ATT is one of the best phone service providers as far as reception and network speeds... customer service is another issue lol... but either way... as a student i'm spending way too much money on my phone bill.. $130 every month for ATT (I pay for it) My father actually wants me to go over to t-mobile and take that free line that he has open...
now my sister who lives in my apartment with me.. she has t-mobile and the reception at home totally sucks... its about 1-3 bars and the call quality isn't even that great... but if i decide to take that line.. that means i no longer have to pay for my phone bill.. which totally rocks... but i can't get over the fact that i'm gonna lose the ability of having full bars everywhere i went... the only reason why i actually decided to go through with it... is the HD2... if the HD2 was exclusively for ATT or something.. i would've just stuck with my 130 monthly bill... the fact that its exclusively for t-mobile makes my decision not as horrible...
yea.. pointless story... but i felt like sharing.. sorry for hijacking thread...

cellneuron said:
It may have both chips inside. We need dig it to find out.
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Interesting. Have anyone tried this?

sundar_amn said:
Interesting. Have anyone tried this?
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It doesn't. Supported frequencies on the US HD2 are 1700/2100, Euro & Asia spec one is 900/2100, the Telstra one is 850/2100 so that supports ATT 3G, and your only option.
You gotta pay to play.