Stupid Questions: 1. how do you turn the xdaII off? - MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General

This is my first pda so please forgive the stupid questions...
1. I am at a loss as to how i can switch off the xdaII completely. I can dim the screen, and switch off the screen, but not the entire xdaII. The bluetooth light and the green light flash continuously, unless i remove the battery catch down.
2. is there a way of getting a better battery indicator at the top, without having to go through the settings menu all the time. I can't seem to create shortcust of any kind.
3. ultra profiler... is it just me... i switch it to silent and it makes no difference.
Thanks...

Why would you want to turn it all the way off? This results in what is known as a "cold boot" - everythng in RAM (even the current date & time) is erased and the phone goes back to the way you bought it.
I don't know how to do it on the XDAII. On the XDA you press a piece of the stylus into a little hole on the bottom.

Fais, on the XDA 1, to switch off both phone and pda, first either hold down the red handset button for a while or tap the signal meter top right of screen and switch off radio/phone, then hit the power button once for a very short time. This will switch off phone and pda. I cant comment on xda2, dont you have a user guide?

Fais said:
1. I am at a loss as to how i can switch off the xdaII completely.
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2. is there a way of getting a better battery indicator at the top, without having to go through the settings menu all the time.
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Well, you must turn off the PDA part and the telephone part separately. For the PDA part, there's a hardware button (which I guess you knew already... ). To turn off the phone part, tap on the antenna indicator and select the first "link" in the bubble that appears. On an MDA I, the phone could also be turned off by holding the red "hang-up" hardware button for a few seconds. This does not work with the MDA II. It's not clear if this is a bug that will be corrected through a software update or if it's a feature.
Note that all that does not really turn your MDA II completely off. But you don't want that anyway, because you'd lose all your data and installed programs, as they are in RAM only.
There are many programs that can display battery and/or storage indicators on your "today" screen. Try searching for "battery" at Handango. The only program I found so far that indicates the battery status directly in the navigation bar is SmallMenu (http://tillanosoft.com/ce/smenu.html)
Cheers
Daniel

1. Tap on the network indicator, on the right middle part of the Navigation Bar (at the top of the screen), then click on "Turn Wireless Off". Then click on the Bluetooth connection on the right side of the command bar (bottom bar), and select OFF. All your flashing lights will go off.
2. Download "BatMemTime" (find it on Google). It is a free today plug-in
3. I don't use ultra profiler. You may try "My Phone Profile" by JGUI, I think it has more features.

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1. Tap on the network indicator, on the right middle part of the Navigation Bar (at the top of the screen), then click on "Turn Wireless Off". Then click on the Bluetooth connection on the right side of the command bar (bottom bar), and select OFF. All your flashing lights will go off.
2. Download "BatMemTime" (find it on Google). It is a free today plug-in
3. I don't use ultra profiler. You may try "My Phone Profile" by JGUI, I think it has more features.
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Thanks everyone for the replies and links to batt indicators... that was a big help!! i've been so used to the p800 that all this is so new to me... The manual doesn't make it clear for a non-pda user about switching the xdaII off.... not to me anyway.
Tekflow thanks... i can switch off the bt quickly and switch on just as easily now... and more important sleep without having to cover the phone with by jacket at night :roll:

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XDA 2 always on handsfree (speaker on)

Quote this FAQ from myxda.com :
Q. Is it possible to activate the loudspeaker on my xda before choosing a telephone number? Is it possible to permanently turn the loudspeaker on loud, so i do not have to press the green button?
A. There is a way for doing this. The only disadvantage: after a soft-reset this setting is not activated anymore and must be readjusted. Dial any number, for example the Voicemail Box, so that nobody is disturbed by a phone call. Then disconnect and tip onto the signal symbol in the title bar. Tip onto the disconnect telephone button and then immediately press the green button (accept telephone call) keeping it pressed until the note appears: The loudspeaker is activated. The telephone then disconnects, without establishing a connection. The information that the loudspeaker is activated remains. The next step is turning on the telephone. The loudspeaker is turned on instantly with each dialled number. However, you can always turn the loudspeaker on or off by pressing the green button a little longer BEFORE dialling.
I've tried it and there is no response, even I can not get first step (Tip on the disconnect button ). May be this FAQ is only for XDA I ...
Has anybody tried it on an XDA II ?
Has anybody a way to permanently activate loudspeaker on XDA II ?
Yes, I've tried it, it works.
But sometimes could be difficult to activate due to some lag or slow response time for taps ... Once activated, the screen will look like this:
Can yo please explain it step by step ?
I've tried a lot of times, withou results. Thanks
ok, i found this easier:
- Turn on flight mode.
- Press green button for a few seconds until it says "Speakerphone is on". (Don't worry, as you're on flight mode, no call is made)
- Now, turn off flight mode to use the phone and have the speakerphone always on.
Enjoy.
No way !!
Turn On fligth mode.
--Press green Button while in TODAY opens Phone Screen
---Press green button while in PHONE screen shows Buuble "The phone is currently off. Dou you want to turn Wireless on?
I have ROM 1.60.00 WWE
-- Radio Version 1.10.00
You'll have to PRESS DOWN AND HOLD the green button for about 2 seconds. Not just one click.
Of course I did it
Have you been able to activate speakerphone during a call before?
The procedure is the same, press and hold down the Green button should activate, except that this is done when flightmode is on.
It's strange why your unit doesn't behave the same? Try hold down longer perhaps..
@chriswo
sorry for OT, but PLEEEEASSSE let me know the name of that software you're using for the today screen. i've been desperately looking for something like this for ages now.
thanks
regards ize|man
if you mean
chriswo's screenshot
then do you mean the signal strength
or ?
if you're talking about the launcher, it's called cLaunch, it's free.
Yes I can activate it during a call, and as I like it (it works 'sufficient' for me as a hands free for the car) is because I wanted to have it always activated.
May be there is some installed software. Will try to uninstall what is not essential. Can you post your rom & radio versions ?
boyz boyz you're fast as lightning
i just updated the screenshot. pls reload this page.
and YES it's cLaunch i just googled and it seems to be what i need (BIG buttons on the today screen)
thanks a lot
regards ize|man
Alrught, if you find it difficult to activate Speakerphone while on flight mode. try this:
On PHONE display, turn on flight mode and immediately PRESS AND HOLD DOWN the green button. Don't let it go completely on flight mode, so you got to do it while the radio was shutting down.
try that and let us know.
OK, this one WORKED without problem.
Now I have a 'perfect' and 'cheap' handsfree for my car.
THANK YOU very much !!!
Chriswo?
Where did you get that signalstrenght today plug in from ? looks really good
That's HudsonMobile PhoneDashboard.
Anyone notice if you cancel the speakerphone, then enable your bluetooth headset and make a call, the headset stays connected even after you end the call?
I don't know if this really is an advantage or not, I'll see how much more the battery drains if any.
Also, I notice that after activating the speakerphone "always-on", my ringetone gets almost silent. :?

How to turn off magician?

how the hell do you turn off the device, if i press the power button once the screen goes completely black and i cannot tap anything but i can still recieve calls and if i press any of the buttons it comes alive. if i press and continue pressing for two seconds, the screen simply dims and i can still tap on the screen?
so how do you switch it off?
and if you reset how do you prevent it from loading the T-Mobile customization?
Also, mine has a dead pixel and i have just opened it can i take it back as faulty? it's only one dead pixel but it's really really annoying...does it count as a fault. i'm gonna try and take mine back tomorrow
A short press turns the unit off
A longer press will shut down the backlight, but leave the unit on
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A short press turns the unit off
A longer press will shut down the backlight, but leave the unit on
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Well, when i do that the screen goes blank but i can still recieve calls and if i press any of the buttons it goes back on again!!!!!!!!!!!!
To totaly turn off the device you need to slide the battery lock button out and then back in. It is the only way I have found to totaly turn the device off.
To lock the keys go into "settings" then "system" and choose "button lock" then choose "Lock all buttons except power button".
John
oh, i see. i thought it was like the other phones, nokia SE etc.
thanks alot for all your replies
thank you
this is not a phone, this is a pdaphone, it works like a pda... if you want tu turn off the phone, you can use the flight mode.
sayreul said:
this is not a phone, this is a pdaphone, it works like a pda... if you want tu turn off the phone, you can use the flight mode.
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I dont think it has anyhting to do with PDA. I have had 3 PDA's before. All of them had an "off" button that turned the thing off. Ditto for phones. So this is just Microsoft's strange decision. Dont make the guy feel back just because he is thinking logically - and they are not.
I've had quite a few PDAs over the years:- Casio E80? Psion 3, 3a, 3c, 5, 5mx, iPaq 3630, XDAI, XDAII, MDA Compact.
None of them have ever had an off button. They turn off the screen and may even slow the processor or put it in sleep mode. But they all kept their memory powered up and clock / alarms / appointments alive at all times.
This may change in the future as flash ram is now fast enough that you could actually run stuff from it so you could truly kill power (apart from clock and wakeup stuff) without emptying your memory.
My old Visor Edge, Palm Tungsten T, T2 and TE all had off buttons. I dont know of any electronic device where anyone should expect that the "off" botton doesn't turn it off.
If that button on Windows Mobile devices is a "sleep" button, then they should mark it with a "sleep" symbol, rather than the intl symbol for "power", which is what they have on there - and which is what confuses people.
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My old Visor Edge, Palm Tungsten T, T2 and TE all had off buttons. I dont know of any electronic device where anyone should expect that the "off" botton doesn't turn it off.
If that button on Windows Mobile devices is a "sleep" button, then they should mark it with a "sleep" symbol, rather than the intl symbol for "power", which is what they have on there - and which is what confuses people.
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So, if your Palm completely powered down when you pressed this magic "off" button, how come the alarms still worked? How come it woke up when you pressed any of the four application buttons or tapped the screen? How come your data was still kept in RAM?
More wisdom from the skagen...
My Nokia 6100 has an off button and it works. Doesn't stop my alarms from waking me up. So did my SE T610 before that
Everybody here has had a cell phone before. The all have "off" buttons that turn the device off. Only Microsoft, in its infinite stupidity, has decided to have a an "off" button that should in fact be labelled "sleep".
You are the one with no clue.
If you press the "off" button on your N 6100 or SE T610 you are right in that they would really be off. You can not receive a call, any alarms will not sound until you turn the phone on again and so on.
But this is not so for most PDA:s on the market.
Most PDA:s will go into some kind of sleep mode when you press the "off" button. And mostly it is not even a true sleep mode, a lot of processes are still running, and even network connections can be kept active. This is also the way most PDA users would want their PDA to work. Also, the way most PDA:s are built, a power down means resetting everything back to defaults and thereby loosing all of your data and third party applications. This could be cured by using non volatile RAM for all of the memory, but I guess there is probably a good reason why this is not normally done.
Actually, on most modern computers a short tap on the power button will put them in suspend mode and holding it for more than two seconds will turn them off. So the only thing that is really strange with the PDA is that a long press on the button will not even put it in sleep mode but only shut off power to the display. And as I actually don't know anyone that has ever used that worthless function I think they should probably replace it with a "real" sleep mode, where all of the hardware is actually shut off except for support voltage to keep the memory "alive".
bamse said:
If you press the "off" button on your N 6100 or SE T610 you are right in that they would really be off. You can not receive a call, any alarms will not sound until you turn the phone on again and so on.
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On N 6100 ,and on all nokia phones, the clock alarm wake's up the phone... You then have a choice of whether to activate the phone or not...
Same with all the Siemens phones I owned ( 4 so far). When shutting off the phone, the clock and alarms keep working. The only thing that does not work, off course, is the radio so incoming calls are diverted to voice mail. But with the phone off, the alarms still wake me up!
It would indeed be a good idea if using the power button on any type of XDA would turn the device really off, using power only for keeping the clock working and the data stored...
If the alarms jeep working on your phone when in "off" mode it is not actually off but in a low power mode with the phone functions turned off. So what you are really asking for is that the power button should turn off the phone but keep the pda running. This seems quite useless to me. Exactly how often are you in such a hurry to turn off the phone?
Yes, the device is in sleep mode, but it is a very deep sleep indeed, since it uses close to zero power. When I put my Compact in sleep mode, running programs will not shut down but will stay running, the Today screen is still running and the same goes for the phone radio and GPRS. This means that the battery drains much quicker. So in order to save power, I have to turn off the radio (flight mode), kill running apps and then put the device to sleep with the power button. Seems like rather a hassle, doesn't it, compared to a normal phone? So I don't mean for the PDA to keep running ful operations, but rather to power down to a level where it only uses a little power to keep the storage working. And when waking up, I don't need to see the Today right away, a few seconds loading the screen like on a normal phone is worth the power save to me.
skagen said:
My Nokia 6100 has an off button and it works. Doesn't stop my alarms from waking me up. So did my SE T610 before that
Everybody here has had a cell phone before. The all have "off" buttons that turn the device off. Only Microsoft, in its infinite stupidity, has decided to have a an "off" button that should in fact be labelled "sleep".
You are the one with no clue.
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This guy is unbelievable. You were claiming that your Palm turned completely off when you hit the off button - not a cellphone, jerk.
Koksie said:
When I put my Compact in sleep mode, running programs will not shut down but will stay running, the Today screen is still running and the same goes for the phone radio and GPRS. This means that the battery drains much quicker. So in order to save power, I have to turn off the radio (flight mode), kill running apps and then put the device to sleep with the power button.
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Wrong - programs that can be _are_ suspended when you put the PDA into standby. Try it with MediaPlayer.
How do you know the Today screen is still running? Like you know the fridge light really stays on when you shut the door?
Wouldn't you be complaining more (because of the missed calls) if turning the PDA off to save the battery also killed the phone?
Most of us can get our heads round this - the Standby button on the side controls the PDA. The Flight mode controls the phone. Not exactly difficult, is it?
Koksie said:
And when waking up, I don't need to see the Today right away, a few seconds loading the screen like on a normal phone is worth the power save to me.
That's where you fall into sjkagen's trap, again. For the zillionth time, the Jam/Compact is not just a phone. It's primarily a PDA. That's why it costs so much more than a phone. And on a PDA, you need to be able to look up information instantly - not have to wait a minute for the darn thing to boot up.
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skagen said:
My Nokia 6100 has an off button and it works. Doesn't stop my alarms from waking me up. So did my SE T610 before that
Everybody here has had a cell phone before. The all have "off" buttons that turn the device off. Only Microsoft, in its infinite stupidity, has decided to have a an "off" button that should in fact be labelled "sleep".
You are the one with no clue.
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Oh skagen, how ignorant you are. Seems you cannot understand pictures, let alone words.
The label on the Jam "off" button is a line through a broken circle, which is the IEC symbol for STANDBY, not POWER OFF. Just like on all other PDAs, and your TV remote control.
See
http://eetd.lbl.gov/Controls/overview/symbols1.pdf
Now look again at all your "phones" which completely shut down when you press the "power" button. What symbol do they have?
Seeing as you obviously have so much difficulty telling the difference between a cellphone and a Palm, a phone and a PocketPC, or a power switch from a standby button, here's another teaser for you.
1. How do cellphones manage to keep their memory when they are turned off or the battery is removed?
2. What is the difference between the memory in cellphone and that in most PDAs?
3. Why do most PDAs have Standby (Soft Off) and not Power (Hard Off) buttons?
Wow, seems like some people are getting really sensitive when I call the Magician a phone... Sorry if I insulted you guys, it is just that I compare it to a phone because I use it for that the most, but I do understand that it is actually much more than that!
I have no problems with the way the sleep button works, it is ok for me, I just wanted to say that there are other possibilities that could have been used to map the button to. Especially since some people would have liked the button to work more "phone wise". But since it is primarily a PDA, I see that this current application is the most logical thing for the button to do.
BTW you are totally right that most running apps are termintated when pushing the power button. Although WMP stays active in the running programs menu, the music is cut off. However, since the prog stays loaded, does this consume more power than shutting it down completey (e.g. with SPB Pocket Plus)?
I think the Today screen stays loaded BECAUSE IT IS RIGHT THERE AFTER WAKE UP, just as you say: it does not have to be booted first. BTW: I have a little window in my fridge door to check wether the light goes off .
And please guys, don't call each other jerks or ignorant just because someone's questions or remarks anoy you. Reply polite or don't reply at all!

Phone-likeness of TyTN?

Gday TyTN folk.
I have an iMate PDA2k and am thinking of moving to TyTN, but being a bit frustrated with my current unit I'd like to know whether TyTN makes a better phone than BA does.
My specific botherments are:
- notification light (green/red/orange) where the functions over-ride each other. e.g. if I miss a call while its charging, it starts flashing red, but then it completes charging and goes green. Actually, even if it's not charging it seems to stop flashing red after a while. I want it to keep flashing red until I actually handle the device and should have noticed.
To me it makes more sense to combine the bluetooth light with the charge light, and leave the phone notification as a separate item.
- notification icon space in start bar. Currently it's ALWAYS showing a multi-message bubble icon (I'm always in CDMA 1x coverage, and also have an app running that puts its own notification icon up) so I don't see a new one for SMS or voice message. It looks like the best answer might actually be a 3rd party start-bar app, but still.. is it any better under WM5?
- waking up. Incoming calls, messages, and bluetooth connections, wake up the device completely. If it's in the pouch, or worse, in my pocket, the screen then gets bumped, thereby performing actions I don't want to. Even getting it out of my pocket without bumping the screen is a challenge. I tried setting an unlock password (some time ago) but that wasn't satisfactory; I don't remember whether the screen still unlocked on incoming calls, or if unlocking was too much a nuisance.
Ideally, it should wake up enough so that the firm hardware buttons are unlocked but the screen isn't active until you've used a button.
The voice-recording button used to annoy me with accidental presses when removing from pouch; I changed that button to do screen rotate which I find more useful, and no big deal when pushed accidentally - just push it again.
- Sound quality, especially for the person on the other end of a call. I've had people tell me I'm faint on the iMate. Positioning is a little interesting as I don't really want to rub my face all over the screen. Does the TyTN pick up any better?
- turning the phone off. (Like Windows' contradictory "click start to shut down") I really don't like the fiddly actions required to "turn on flight mode" on pda2k, especially when I don't want to get out the stylus. People with normal mobile phones can turn them completely off using one hardware button, and they don't have to look hard to see whether it's on or off. Some have mentioned wanting an easy way to switch to/from silent mode.
Is there a quick, sensible, easy way to turn the phone on and off, preferably also to/from silent?
Thanks
gregnash said:
- notification icon space in start bar. Currently it's ALWAYS showing a multi-message bubble icon (I'm always in CDMA 1x coverage, and also have an app running that puts its own notification icon up) so I don't see a new one for SMS or voice message. It looks like the best answer might actually be a 3rd party start-bar app, but still.. is it any better under WM5?
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First a corresponding icon (envelope, phone), after more notifications, you get a bubble (?). Not a bubble all the time.
gregnash said:
- turning the phone off. (Like Windows' contradictory "click start to shut down") I really don't like the fiddly actions required to "turn on flight mode" on pda2k, especially when I don't want to get out the stylus. People with normal mobile phones can turn them completely off using one hardware button, and they don't have to look hard to see whether it's on or off. Some have mentioned wanting an easy way to switch to/from silent mode.
Is there a quick, sensible, easy way to turn the phone on and off, preferably also to/from silent?
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One hardware button for standby, hold it to turn the device off completely. You get a window where you can just hit the d-pad button.
There's also a button for comm-manager, there you can select silent/vibrate mode and flight mode.
Hi, you speak of not wanting to rub your face on the screen, I actually use my TyTN in speaker phone mode to prevent this, I just quickly enable speaker on a call, and flip the phone to where the back is by my face, it puts the speaker in a good spot also, I know it sounds a bit weird, bit works pretty well.
Granted I don't do this with every call, mostly I use it when I know the call is gonna last for more than a few minutes.
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TiMMah!!! said:
First a corresponding icon (envelope, phone), after more notifications, you get a bubble (?). Not a bubble all the time.
One hardware button for standby, hold it to turn the device off completely. You get a window where you can just hit the d-pad button.
There's also a button for comm-manager, there you can select silent/vibrate mode and flight mode.
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You're right about the notification icon, but if I was watching the screen at the time of the additional notify then I'd already know what's there and wouldn't need the icon. On the pda2k cdma, being in a 1x coverage area generates a notification, plus mNotes puts one, so there's a bubble even before I receive any sms, voicemail etc. Combine that with the behaviour of the flashing light, it means if I missed something I may not know about it unless I go looking.
Thanks re the hardware button, that's good news.
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ChaoticDruid said:
Hi, you speak of not wanting to rub your face on the screen, I actually use my TyTN in speaker phone mode to prevent this, I just quickly enable speaker on a call, and flip the phone to where the back is by my face, it puts the speaker in a good spot also, I know it sounds a bit weird, bit works pretty well.
Granted I don't do this with every call, mostly I use it when I know the call is gonna last for more than a few minutes.
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Creative! I'll remember that one..
Sounds like you should check out PhoneAlarm

Screen go off on phone call

Hi, everyone. My Tytn when is on a phone call, switch off the screen. I can't find anything like this in the forun (perhaps I don't look for on the right way).
I not find how to disconnect it on the configuaration of my Tytn. Does anybody knows how to get the screen on during a phone call.
The problem is when I'm driving, and on a phone call, lose the screen and my navigator instructions. It's is a problem, cause, I must to switch on the PDA and reconnect the navigator. (the people alwais call on the worst moment , I don't know why?)
Thanks to all.
Start>Settings>System>backlight>Battery Power, then take the tick off the selection "Turn off backlight if device is not used". Do the same under the external power tab.
At the bottom of the screen you should see a MENU option. Click on the Advanced tab then take the tick off the option "Turn off device if not used for ...."
This lot should solve your problem. The downside is you might then start to use more battery power as the device leaves itself in an always on position.
VCheers
WB
wacky.banana has offered some good advice. But IF your problem happens ONLY when a phone call comes in, then I think you might have phoneAlarm installed and configured to do this. pA includes this feature in order to let folks listen and speak, with the phone against their ear, and not fear starting up myriad applications as their ear touches the pressure-sensitive screen.
Just an idea.
-pvs
just press the button
just press the standby button, or any button to turn the screen back on,
id rather have the option to turn the screen back on, rather than having it on all the time especially if i am out and about, and as we all know, battery power on the tytn is a precious commodity :_)

Questions. Do we have answers ?

Hello to everyone. I have a few questions...
1. When we hold the reject call button pressed the device keys lock. Is there an option to autolock the device keys let's say in 1 minute ?
2. What's going on with the alarm clock ? When the device is turned off the alarm clock can't "wake" (turn the power on) the phone and you lose the alarm. Is there a solution ? G-Alarm or Spb Time no good...
3. The programmable Soft Keys. Just above them at the bar it says Calendar and Contacts. But the Soft Keys run other applications because we have programmed them to. Is there a way the bar above them to reflect the Soft Key's programs and not Calendar and Contact ?
Thanks for your time...
1. Use S2U2
2. Of course the alarm can't ring when the device is switched off. What did you expect? It's turned off! No power, no boot, no ring. Your home computer won't ring either if you disconnect the power supply.
3. No, it's not. Because these buttons do not belong together. You have 4 buttons to use, otherwise you just would have 2 -it's much better this way.
However, you can do other way around and program the softkeys to do what the buttons on the screen tell you. START --> SETTINGS --> BUTTONS
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1. Use S2U2
2. Of course the alarm can't ring when the device is switched off. What did you expect? It's turned off! No power, no boot, no ring. Your home computer won't ring either if you disconnect the power supply.
3. No, it's not. Because these buttons do not belong together. You have 4 buttons to use, otherwise you just would have 2 -it's much better this way.
However, you can do other way around and program the softkeys to do what the buttons on the screen tell you. START --> SETTINGS --> BUTTONS
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1. THANKS !
2. Every cellphone can "wake up" and power on by its self when the defined alarm time is met. And then the alarm goes off so you can wake up. That's default from the first cellphone that ever came out. This is a bug and no software can fix this. I have tried G-Alarm and Spb Time. I guess i have to wait the update...
3. Yes I agree but it's confusing. You see e.g. Calendar and when you press the soft key File explorer runs...
2. There you go..."every cellphone can wake up". But you have to get used to the thought that this is a pocket PC and no cellphone. Every cellphone is still running and using battery power, even when switched off, so the alarm can go off. Windows mobile and also Symbian S60 are operating systems that must boot first before the phone is active. When a pocket PC is switched off, it is really off. This is no bug and no update will ever fix this.
3. It was confusing for me too at first, because this is my first touch-screen phone. But after a while I got used to it and like it as it is. I have the buttons on the screen and then I have the two programmable buttons -with them I open the START-button and rotate the screen.
EDIT: I press the "Flight mode" button on the SE-Panel before going to sleep, so all connections are disabled but the alarm goes off. This mode hardly need any power but the alarm will go off when needed. So you can compare this with the "power off" mode on former cellphones.
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2. There you go..."every cellphone can wake up". But you have to get used to the thought that this is a pocket PC and no cellphone. Every cellphone is still running and using battery power, even when switched off, so the alarm can go off. Windows mobile and also Symbian S60 are operating systems that must boot first before the phone is active. When a pocket PC is switched off, it is really off. This is no bug and no update will ever fix this.
3. It was confusing for me too at first, because this is my first touch-screen phone. But after a while I got used to it and like it as it is. I have the buttons on the screen and then I have the two programmable buttons -with them I open the START-button and rotate the screen.
EDIT: I press the "Flight mode" button on the SE-Panel before going to sleep, so all connections are disabled but the alarm goes off. This mode hardly need any power but the alarm will go off when needed. So you can compare this with the "power off" mode on former cellphones.
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2. Every Nokia I had (Communicators, N95) turned on by its self when the alarm time met. Also all HTC phones (with windows) do that. I also had QTEK 9000. The same thing. Windows mobile but it turned it's self on. This is the first time I see this in a phone and it's unacceptable. Oh well ! I thought the option of Flight mode but I didn't want to believe that a phone in 2009 could not "power on" by its self. Nevertheless I strongly believe that this is a bug and it will be corrected...
3. Thanks !
Thank you skycamefalling for your answers...
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2. There you go..."every cellphone can wake up". But you have to get used to the thought that this is a pocket PC and no cellphone. Every cellphone is still running and using battery power, even when switched off, so the alarm can go off. Windows mobile and also Symbian S60 are operating systems that must boot first before the phone is active. When a pocket PC is switched off, it is really off. This is no bug and no update will ever fix this.
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little veto here.
Symbian is a CELLPHONE OS. therefore the alarm does work since its always running even of the phone is turned off.
Windows mobile was not intended to be a cellphone OS. it just received a small update. therefor ... device turnoed off = 0 power usage ... well close too ^^
its not a bug. its neither intended. its just a non existing feature. and since it would use some extra hardware (check alarm/clock and start phone) u probably wont get this feature at all.
btw ... why in the world would i want to turn my phone off
PS: keep in mind that u bought a Pocket PC with cellphone features and not vise versa!
Hmmm...my N95 of the first generation definitly did not power itself when the alarm should go off therefore I thought this is an issue with S60 too. So I stand corrected...maybe they fixed this in a later firmware update.
skycamefalling said:
Hmmm...my N95 of the first generation definitly did not power itself when the alarm should go off therefore I thought this is an issue with S60 too. So I stand corrected...maybe they fixed this in a later firmware update.
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it did, or at least all symbian phones i ever had since 2002 so far did .
but like i said, symbian is made for cellphones.
while Windows mobile was just a windows for pocket devices. i dont know any PC wich boots automaticly up just u set an alarm under WIndows.
Th30d0sis said:
Hello to everyone. I have a few questions...
3. The programmable Soft Keys. Just above them at the bar it says Calendar and Contacts. But the Soft Keys run other applications because we have programmed them to. Is there a way the bar above them to reflect the Soft Key's programs and not Calendar and Contact ?
Thanks for your time...
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To be clear about this, as one of the posts above says, there are actually four (4) options here, all of them easily changeable:
1) the two "soft keys" at the very bottom of the touch screen (Contacts and Calendar by default) are able to be assigned to any installed app that has a shortcut - I'm running TC and an Expense Diary on my device
Just use (eg) http://mobile-sg.com/software/?p=KeySwop&platform=ppc
There are a number of these freeware programs, the one I've linked is just one of them
2) the two "hardware keys" directly below the touch screen are assignable in the Buttons app (Start>Settings>Personal). It's just that they are also called "software keys" in the Buttons menu choices, which is where I think the confusion here lies.
I've also re-assigned these two to functions quite separate to the defaults (left one rotates the screen, right one brings up my 3rd party contacts database)
When you turn the X1 off (and virtually all winmo ppcs since they changed the memory type) OFF really does mean OFF
From what I remember in the early days of PPCs if you turned off your device it wiped the memory so the device went into standby instead. it was frustrating to say the least.
If you want an alarm to work then put the x1 into standby then the alarm works rather than turn it off.
If the x1 isn't having enough wake up time to trigger the alarm when resuming from standby you can try increasing that setting using something like Advanced config. Mine works on stock.
Pcs can usually only be set to wake at a set time through the bios can't they? I can't imagine how a device would be able to use the operating system calls when the OS wasn't even loaded..
skycamefalling said:
Hmmm...my N95 of the first generation definitly did not power itself when the alarm should go off therefore I thought this is an issue with S60 too. So I stand corrected...maybe they fixed this in a later firmware update.
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Actually you're wrong. It's not a bug, they'll not fix it.
It was identicall with all of my UIQ/Symbian SE smartphones.
But what the heck is the problem with just using flight mode? It's so convinient, just cut off all the connections, alarm runs great.
I would not expect my device to start the complex booting action just to ring the alarm and than turn itself off again.
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Pcs can usually only be set to wake at a set time through the bios can't they? I can't imagine how a device would be able to use the operating system calls when the OS wasn't even loaded..
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bootup args!
that probably wont be much of a problem. but u need soem hardware which checks clock settings and actualy boot up the device. but thats all kind of expensive considering u just want to ring an alarm.
Symbian phones have a total different hardware structure and this feature is allready somewhat build-in
Ok guys. I stand corrected. I thought that alarm clock can actually "wake up" phone. Thanks everybody !

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