I have been using the new XDAII for about three weeks or so and already I have experienced over 6 times critical crashes that caused the device to not even be able to restart after reseting. Even more troubling is that even when pressing the on/off button and hard reseting, the problem still cannot be solved. The only way I got around it is by actually removing the battery and letting it sit for a few minutes, put in the battery and then performing the hard reset. Of course, then I lose all data that was previously on the device. Right now, what I do is use the xBackup program to back everything to SD card and just wait for the device to crash. Then ultimately recovering. I can get around, but this is really quite annoying.
I have written to O2 about it and they said something about a radio version 10513A0, and that if this is the version (and it is), then I need to either register (which I did and wait for some upgrade), or send it in to O2 collection point for repairs. I really don't want to send it in because then I would have nothing to use (since its both phone and PDA). I just don't see why O2 could not just simply fork over the upgrade software. Also, I have experienced twice that the device would suddenly no longer be recognized by Activesync (newest version). It would automatically connect as GUEST and nothing could be done about it. No shuting down Activesync and restarting, or rebooting computer or/and xdaII, or even removing and reinstalling Activesync could solve the problem. Again, the only solution I have is to perform the infamous full reset, wipe out the whole xdaII and then everything works again.
Anyway, all of this is really killing me here, just wondering if anyone has experienced this kind of situation and maybe have some advise.
By the way, the Bluespoon Digital seems to work fine with the XDAII although sometimes it does crash and a pairing must be done again, but definitely not like the Jabra 200 problem.
I had the same sort of problems with my first XDA-2 and as time pasee the problems got worse, So i returned it to o2 and got another one, same software and hardware versions, but this time with no real problems
John
XDA II Critical Crash
I have had the exact same problems as you experienced and was about to throw that gadget out the window... but then
Following advice received from an XDA II owner I tried the following:
I hit soft reset each time upon seeing the red text in the lower right corner 5 consecutive times. Then I waited and my XDA II came back to life effectively performing a soft reset rather than having to do a hard reset. Fascinating, let's see whether you have as much success !!!!
Thanks for the tip... I'll try it next time it happens again! However, I'm still wondering about the ROM v 1.06 and that Radio software upgrade. Thanks!
I'm also finding the XDAII needs a hard reset more often than the XDAI (although fewer soft resets). Had to do it twice last night, very annoying. Interesting tip about the soft reset at the boot screen, will give that a try next time.
O2 really should do something about it!
Ya, I totally agree. All this reseting and crashing and recovering is really not acceptable. The product features are definitely good and they did make some improvements, but this kind of quality is a definite downgrade. Even O2 admits that if your radio number is 10513A0 then you should send it in to a collection point for a software upgrade. They also insisted on registering which I did, but I just don't understand why they could not just simply post a downloadable software upgrade or ROM upgrade so that we don't have to be without a device. After all, we are talking about something that is both your PHONE and your PDA.
The ROM upgrade is definately necessary. I sent mine in and after that, no hangs whatsoever. No more hard/soft resets at all either. :lol:
if only it was so easy
I would have sent it in, but since I am traveling and don't live in HK, there is just no way to send it in. Besides, it takes about a week, which means nothing to use during the time. O2 really should be more considerate about this. If this was just a functionality upgrade or a boost in bells and whistles, waiting is reasonable. However, we are talking about crippling disfunctionality in a US$800+ device, they should atleast have the sense to post a fix to solve the problem. I heard something will be released in January, I wonder if this is confirmed. I am really sick of waiting. After all, MDA and T-Mobile supposedly already have something out. If they don't do something soon, I would really reconsider anything from O2 next time.
I have experient the same problem on my XDAII, and after 7 times hardreset during 14 days business trip in USA. I send it back to O2 and wait for the solution(already 1 week pass). And even a hardreset sometime could hardly be reached. You need to try 6-10 times. I think it should be a hardware problem because I acutrally upgrade my rom to a newer one(and not the english version), and after two days, I lost my phone function again. I have faced the same problem on my older PPC phone once(LENOVO ET180) and after I send it back to the vendor, they said the mainboard has failure, need to be replaced. After doing so, it works 6 months without a hardreset. I saw the same issue on PPCSG and PCCW.net, they all send their PDA+Phone back to the service. I think you better do it now as maybe there is no a ROM upgrade could solve the problem.
Goog luck. and if without those issues, it is really a perfect PDA+Phone. I love it. When I faced those ****, the only thing I could think is to buy another XDAII
I've the same problem
I've tried your tip to restart my Mda2 with XDA2 rom, and it works!!!!!!!!!!
Now I'm looking for a new Rom upgrade to change my radio version...
Still I think it's the solution and not to replace the radio hardware...
Cant Trust My XDA II
Well it's now Dec 2004 and I ALSO have the same problem.
I've only had my XDA II a couple of months and already I'm quickly loosing my patience with it!!
It crashes at least TWICE a week causing me major headaches.
If I was abroad and it did this I would be in severe trouble.
I brought this as a business tool and I'm afraid it is to unreliable to place
my trust in...
I have the latest ROM update installed
I can ill afford to send it in because it holds my customer base,
day to day stuff, Navigator and many other stuff I use on a daily basis.
"O2, what can you do for me?"
Topdog38uk, what software have you installed - especially any today plugins?
rgds,
Alex.
sigh... i haven't had such a problem since i bought it..... till i update the new rom from O2 uk site... now i feel like throwing to on the ground lolz. anyway i just installed WM2003 SE upgrade mysterman from the forum and 1 crash so far.... :roll:
Related
Dear All,
I have had my SPV now for about 4 weeks now and very pleased with it. However, twice in the last week it hasn't responded when I turned it
on and ended up removing and re-inserting the battery. When it comes back, it starts with the "Welcome to Pocket PC" setup wizard and all my data is gone.
Has anyone else had this problem. This problem has happened with both
versions of the ROM. The only s/w I am running is
Tube (VisualIT)
MS Arcade Pack (Pacman, DigDug etc)
MS Voice Command
Agenda Fusion
CityTime
Regards & Thanks
Chris
Yeah i got the same problem. But it happens when I upgraded my ExtRom from Orange.com. Sometimes it stays at suspend mode, then i have to perform a hard reset to wake up the device. Very odd.
dfens said:
Dear All,
I have had my SPV now for about 4 weeks now and very pleased with it. However, twice in the last week it hasn't responded when I turned it
on and ended up removing and re-inserting the battery. When it comes back, it starts with the "Welcome to Pocket PC" setup wizard and all my data is gone.
Has anyone else had this problem. This problem has happened with both
versions of the ROM.
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I have had my M1000 for about four weeks too now and although it occasionally soft resets it never fails to respond to the power button. Maybe you have a faulty phone?
On a different note, you say you have Voice Command, I was looking for places that sell it in the UK but it appears to only be available in the US, if you could let me know where you got it I would be really grateful.
Hope you sort your phone out!
Fin
High all
No probs so far
Swiss m1000 installed Programs
Pocket Hack Master ( Overlock your PDA )
Pocket Mechanic ( Clean Defragment and more )
Snails ( adictive Worms(TM) Clone )
Crazy Cart ( adictive Mario Cart(TM) clone
and lots more.
Im overlocking my CPU to 530 MHZ and no Trubbles so far.
Got the thing for two months now, running in this config for about one month.
Peace
Yep, I am having the same problem or much the same problem. The unite works fine until every four or five days when I notice that the bluetooth light and the green phone radio light are flashing (even though bluetooth is turned off). It does not respond to the power button and then lights go off when I try a soft reset. The only way I can get it back on it with a hard reset.
It does not seem to be a battery issue as the battery is fully charged and when I try plugging in the Charger (before doing the hard reset) the charging light does not light up. I have had the same problem with several M1000s from Orange.
Anyone have any ideas at to what might be going on?
Thanks,
Steve
Yep, I am having the same problem or much the same problem. The unite works fine until every four or five days when I notice that the bluetooth light and the green phone radio light are flashing (even though bluetooth is turned off). It does not respond to the power button and then lights go off when I try a soft reset. The only way I can get it back on it with a hard reset.
It does not seem to be a battery issue as the battery is fully charged and when I try plugging in the Charger (before doing the hard reset) the charging light does not light up. I have had the same problem with several M1000s from Orange.
Anyone have any ideas at to what might be going on?
Thanks,
Steve
With Orange Switzerland SPV M1000 I experience the following problems:
1) Bluetooth lights (blue light) and the battery lights flashes even though
bluetooth is not connected and the battery level is fine.
2) Once every other day the device (though fully charged) freezes and I end up doing soft reset.
3) Removing battery already puts the device to soft reset. Orange
4) The activeSync is running without me having to start any activeSync session.
5) Abruptly I get message the memory is full and the device then freeses.
Is anyone having the above problems? How do i resove this?
Many thanks
Swissmate
SteveD said:
Yep, I am having the same problem or much the same problem. The unite works fine until every four or five days when I notice that the bluetooth light and the green phone radio light are flashing (even though bluetooth is turned off). It does not respond to the power button and then lights go off when I try a soft reset. The only way I can get it back on it with a hard reset.
It does not seem to be a battery issue as the battery is fully charged and when I try plugging in the Charger (before doing the hard reset) the charging light does not light up. I have had the same problem with several M1000s from Orange.
Anyone have any ideas at to what might be going on?
Thanks,
Steve
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SAME PROBLEM AS THE REST OF YOU WHO HAVE THEIR SPV FREEZED UP VERY OFTEN. IN MY CASE IT'S EVERY 3 OR 4 DAYS, POWER BUTTON AND SOFT REST DOES NOT RESPONDE, SO IT'S EITHER HARD RESET OR SOMETIMES SIMPLY REMOVING THE BATTERY DOES THE WORK. I HAD MY PHONE REPLACED 3 TIMES ALREADY AND STILL THE SAME PROBLEM EVEN WITHOUT INSTALLING ADDITIONAL SOFTWARE BUT WHAT CAME BUNDLE WITH THE ORANGE PHONE. IS THIS A ROM BUG ???
SPV M1000 FRANCE
SD CARD 1 GB
OMEGA ONE BATTERY PACK PRO
OMEGA ONE JOURNAL BAR
SPB GPRS MONITORS.
FORTUNATELY I USE THE X BACKUP PROVIDED WITH THE PHONE TO SAVE MY DATA, BUT IT'S TIME COMSUMMING AND REPETITIVE AS AFTER EACH TIME THE PHONE RESETS ITSELF, I HAVE TO RESTORE IT AGAIN AND AGAIN. :evil: :twisted:
IF SOMEBODY COULD IDENTIFY THE PROBLEM, THIS WOULD HELP A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE ME
THANKS
RICHARD
There have been frequent reports of this problem- Orange are aware of it, and are replacing M1000's as required. They are currently testing a new ROM, so it appears that they think it may be a ROM problem, though it could also be a batch of faulty hardware.
Another possibility
Turning off the record button seems to have helped, could it be that this is being caught and filling memory / draining batrtery?
3rd phone 3 weeks.
Great when working - anyone using a GPS receiver? Tried a TomTom with an XDA 2 lead is not recognised
Re: Another possibility
BobW said:
anyone using a GPS receiver? Tried a TomTom with an XDA 2 lead is not recognised
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Remember you have to turn of the IR in settings>connections>beam before a GPS will be recognised.
NeilM said:
There have been frequent reports of this problem- Orange are aware of it, and are replacing M1000's as required. They are currently testing a new ROM, so it appears that they think it may be a ROM problem, though it could also be a batch of faulty hardware.
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we got almost 30 of these at our work, it seems the only one to have this problem is... my one! so i swapped it for another one and it did the same problem... hmm, they must not like power users, the other users are idiots so they dont really mess about with the settings n all
anyhooz, ill be upgrading all of em to SE very soon and i doubt that rom will have the same glitch...
who knows... now that we can confirm (99%) that SE works on the xda II maybe the operators will now make an official upgrade to SE... they have no reason not to
regards
djrm.net said:
we got almost 30 of these at our work, it seems the only one to have this problem is... my one! so i swapped it for another one and it did the same problem... hmm, they must not like power users, the other users are idiots so they dont really mess about with the settings n all
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Hmm. That is interesting. Only having one here - and having problems - I do not have much to compare.
Do you think the problem comes from changing the standard settings or using extra software then?
By the way the new ROM does not seem to make much difference in terms of this problem, alas!
Exactly the same thing to me...
Every 5 or 6 days... it goes of for no reason, and the only way to wake it up is to hard reset it! weird SPV... maybe some day a nice guy will come up with a solution to our problem! Hopefully...
:shock:
To keep an old thread alive
Those experiencing issues with this device going into coma (requiring Hard Reset to clear)please would you post detailed accounts of when the issue occurs.
Please confirm power settings, what applications were open on the device and whether the radio or BT was on.
Does the problem occur off or on charge, if on does same problem occur if charged from travel charger not dock?
If off charge, if known - state both internal and external battery charge levels when problem occurs?
What is seen on the handset at point of coma?
Working from soft Reset through battery off to hard reset, what was necessary to restore the device and did soft reset or battery off result in a dump?
Could ROM V's and bootloader V's also be stated.
cheers guy's, together we'll crack it
To keep an old Thread Alive
:roll: I have had my phone from about June last year. The first reset occurred about the 3rd Jan this and two more occurring in the past few weeks the last one on sat 12th Feb
The history as I can recall with the last reset is as follows. I took the phone out from work (cradle) Friday afternoon after 4pm don’t think it was put to charge again before the incident also the phone was not used very often as its a work phone. It was on stand by all day Saturday with the green light flashing but no signal input was being received as I was expecting a cal which never came only to find out the phone was off as mentioned by the caller when I called them. Got home about 530pm with the light still flashing and tried to switch the phone on after finding out no signal was received, the light then went out. Could remember this quite distinctly as it happed on the previous occasion. To activate the phone i have to take the battery and sim card out as with the previous occasion put the card in another/different phone to activate it (make a cal) then put the card and battery back in for the phone to work when it would then go through the reset process. Once working on checking, both battery powers were very low think less than 50% as when i checked some time after they were up to 75%
Am in an office with 3 other users and the only one with this problem and am on my 3rd phone since the year started. It seems to be linked with low battery power (both) and extended stand by when it completely shuts down. Trust this would help to get us a stage further.
i have had two m1000's with this problem,
orangecare stepped up for the replacement and i upgraded the 2nd to win2003se and it still does it!
i make scheduled backups now and have learnt to live with it until my contract expires..
on another seperate note..
Remember you have to turn of the IR in settings>connections>beam before a GPS will be recognised.
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how do i do this in 2003se?
MORE ON THIS
I had an M1000 that worked fine but a small problem occured and orange replaced it - the new one had this problem every 7 days or so - the bluetooth light was flashing although not switched on and when I try to turn phone on it wont - remove/replace bat and resets - I upgraded to ROM 2.02 from this forum but was using origional orange extended rom and it made no difference - if it is a rom problem its in oranges extended rom
I was on a 166wwe - boot loader 1.06 - dont know radio version but was still happening after DCM 2.02 WM2003SE WWE from this forum with radio 1.18.00 and original ORANGE ext rom so if is on ROM is definatley oranges ext rom that has a problem. - HAS ANYONE HAD THIS HAPPEN WHILE ON CHARGE????
THEY REPLACED MY PHONE WITH A REFURB - ITS NOW FINE BUT IM NOT HAPPY
guys lets think here
were all orange subs so its got to be an orange thing (so unlikley to be hardware) - there are people here (myself included) who have upgraded radio and OS so I am begining to think it is in the extended rom on these machines - has anyone who has replaced extended rom had this trouble - I would experiment but no longer have this fault - I never thought Id wish I could get it back but now I think I can see a resolve
we need an orange customer who does not have this trouble to post extended rom on here for us all to try????? - - - Please ??????
it would be nice to crack this one guys keep plugging on
Had my M100 nearly a year now and after many many resets decided to call Orange as I would have thought this was a known problem with them. But according to technical they have never seen this before!!!
There response was ... backup your data! doh!
I told them I did and it was unacceptable to say this as the thing is faulty it takes over an hour to reload the data and it's happend 4 times since I called them 4 days ago.
:twisted:
PS: has anyone got a copy of the original 1.66 rom as you can no longer get it from Orange.
Help me please!! The 'Phone Pad' input method will not work for my xda exec. When selecting it, it stays on keyboard method (or reverts to it if it was on, say, transcriber or block recognizer mothod) Does anyone else have the same problem? My hunch is that it's a bug which will affect some but not all, depending on the ROM version you are running. Could anyone who owns one do a quick test and let me know. I tried both soft and hard reset, no solution with either. Thanks.
Just tried it...wouldn't change to phonepad as well. But after a soft reset, it worked.
its a bug,
workaround , if all else fails soft reset.
change to portrait.
select a different keyboard option not phone one. exit app. goto app and now try - it works 6/10.
I have the same problem...
Don't want to go off on a rant here, but I have pretty strong feelings about a device that gets released with such an obvious bug with such a key piece of functionality. I'm pretty sure it's a memory issue - with a fresh personal install (i.e. with O2 active running - O2's recommended install), the phonepad works until I soft-reset the device ONCE. Then it fails to open and I can't get the work-around to work. I can reproduce this again and again.
Are there others, or is it just me who gets offended when I get charged money for something that is so obviously broken?
@daveb1976, I'm with you on this. I suspect I paid even more as I have a JJ and they are more expensive than the O2 Execs. Having used Nokia, SE and Palm devices I've got a good idea of what one should expect of new devices and I have to say the JJ reminds of the SE P800 - this was an innovative and high profile product three years ago but it was not complete in many areas (but most s/w issues were fixed after about 6 months)
Yup. I appreciate that it's a new device, and I do expect that there will be kinks. But one of 5 input methods simply not working is not a "kink". Besides, unless I'm wrong this is part of WM2005 which is version FIVE of the OS. Oh well, I bought one, so I guess I'm as guilty as the next guy when it comes to putting up with MS's rediculously low quality standards.
The workaround worked once but now I can't get it to work again. I've also noticed another strange bug. Try this....When downloading a couple of new today page themes (from the microsoft pocket pc site) and copying them into my windows folder, I was pleased to see they were available when I went to settings/today menu. However, choose any of them and the things slows up ridiculously, fails to display any contacts at all and won't select task manager (I was going there to try and shut some things down because of the speed problem).
Only a soft reset will bring things back to normal. I agree with the posts by daveb and jah, it's not acceptable to charge top notch prices for new contracts and upgrades (I was the latter incidentally, at a cool £229.99 to upgrade)
Anyway, I'm not prepared to live with it for that price so I'm calling them now. I'm on 8 days since I received it but the 14 day thing is irrelevant if the goods aren't working right? What do you guys think?
I'm looking for a hefty credit to my account to offset the upgrade price or a different handset and my 229.99 back. It's a shame as I love the 3G and wireless capabilities but it may be a case of releasing it a few months too soon, for O2 at least. They have probably been concentrating their efforts on yesterdays takeover!
Anyway, I'll post back with my result.
I got the same problem,
Beside, I can't change today backgronf theme in this Exec.
Any new upgrade for O2 Exec ?
Somebody said that "Phonepad" problem for O2 Exec is a bug and a new version will be out soon and the problem should be gone.
Anybody get the upgrade yet ?
Any new upgrade for O2 Exec ?
Somebody said that "Phonepad" problem for O2 Exec is a bug and a new version will be out soon and the problem should be gone.
Anybody get the upgrade yet ?
Hi all,
After spending 2 days with my vario my dreams of a half-decent smartphone are shattered.
I've got a C500 which hasnt really caused me any problems in over a year, now 2 days after having a vario i'm almost pulling my hair out.. can this phone possibly have been released in such a bad state or is it just mine?
For starters it crashes, not now and then, but like it's a hobby of the vario's, i dont think i can leave it for an hour, come back and find it hasn't hung in some form.
Sometimes i have to do a soft reset, sometimes, i can press the power button, get the screen to light up but can't do anything. Sometimes I get icons but when I click them i'm told the shortcut doesnt exist.
Ooh another thing it seems to like doing is randomly going into flight mode, and one really good crash was when i called it and the source phone could hear the ringing but the vario was just sitting there doing nothing.
So is it just mine or is this the most unstable phone the UK has ever seen? Is it worth me asking for a replacement, or just flashing the k-jam/qtek rom over the t-mobile one? Is there a way to backup my t-mobile rom and flash it back should i find the qtek/kjam rom does the same?
I've tried hard-resetting then cancelling all the t-mobile gubbins that loads from extended rom, but that didnt make any diference.
Any advice gratefully appreciated
Thanks
Personally, I'd say get T-Mobile to replace it! Unless you've installed a buggy piece of 3rd party software (but if you did, you wouldn't on here complaining about the phone you'd be complaining about the software, right?).
I also have an MDA Vario. I haven't touched the Extended_ROM (was going to, had a look and decided it was running fine so don't mess with it).
It's solid as a rock. As per a thread on howardforums asking how many times per day have I soft-resetted the phone and my answer was an average of zero.
I hard reset it on the day I bought it (after installing GPRS Monitor which knackers the backlight turning back on after sleep) and took the battery out after T-Mobile decided to disconnect me from their network (at their support line's request).
Anyway, it's on 24/7, never needs a reset of any kind, gets mobile emails via ActiveSync and is generally a wonderful piece of kit!
List what apps you've installed (even if they're T-Mobile supplied ones from CD) since buying the phone as there may be something buggy there. If not, definitely get T-mobile to replace it as it's certainly not a crap model (mine is absolutely fantastic).
Thanks Andy,
I've literally not installed anything, i'm just about to install pocketcommander but that will be the first thing i've actually installed. I've hard reset the phone this morning and it's already hung once on me (
I'll give tmob a call and see if they can send me another out today or something
Yeah, then you've definitely got a knackered phone. They should replace it (how long have you had it) without problems.
Hope you enjoy the replacement, they really are a great bit of kit
Well just had my first ever dealings with tmobile supoprt and it's as bad as the phone
They say because my contract/phone is only 3 days old i need to go back to the people i bought the phone off to get a replacement, problem is they'l want me to send the whole boxed thing uip and all the box etc is at home since i work away during the week
That's got to be faulty, like others have said.
WHen I bought mine, (T-Mobile shop in Leeds), I was told that if it was faulty within the first 28 days, there'd be a straight replacement issued immediately.
Don't accept anything less.
For what it's worth, I always try to be exceptionally pleasant when returning things rather than going in "all guns blazing"; it gets results a lot more often than the "I know my rights" approach. Of course, when it all comes down to it, the "i know my rights" approach might be necessary, but hopefully it shouldn't be.
The phone is superb, so stick with it even tho it is a bit of hassle for you.
good luck!
hi there no problems with my vario either. seems to work fine. no soft/ hard resets needed so far. have had it for 10 days. only thing is after the xteended rom instals there is a file called canned text in words which opens up in a crazy language. does not go on hard resets. but does not cause a problem either. any ideas on what this file is. have othar vario users noticed this file. please help.
_Belial said:
Thanks Andy,
I've literally not installed anything, i'm just about to install pocketcommander but that will be the first thing i've actually installed. I've hard reset the phone this morning and it's already hung once on me (
I'll give tmob a call and see if they can send me another out today or something
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may not be relevant to your problem, but if skype is installed on yours from the hard reset install, it may be worth removing, on the k-jam as soon as i removed skype, reseting stopped happening
I've had my T-Mobile MDA Vario for around 5 months now, and its OK, but it does crash about once or twice a week (needing a soft reset), which makes it unreliable (I can't receive calls until I reset, and I don't know its crashed till I try to use it).
I also have a problem after soft resets with the alarm.
It is also a bit slow when I have a few apps running, such as Pocket Streets and Word Mobile.
Due to the crashing, it's time for a Rom update, but I'd like to stick with T Mobile for warranty reasons if I can.
Des anyone know if T-Mobile are planning on releasing an updated improved Rom for download ?
If not, what is the best Rom download recommended ?
Best Regards,
Andrew
When you say it crashes, what exactly does it do? I've had mine from T-Mobile for about the same time, a little longer maybe, and the only trouble I have is sometimes after the sync it becomes very slow, I soft reset, then it's fine, but that's it. If you're experiencing something more serious and regulalry, I'd say try to get it replaced on warranty. Maybe you're running low on memory? (if that's th case you can move a lot of stuff onto a memory card rather than keeping it on the main ram).
Regarding a ROM update, contacted them a couple of months ago and I was told that this would be announced if and when... so no set date yet it seems
kkhalil76 said:
When you say it crashes, what exactly does it do?
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It just freezes (normally it is off in standby at the time, and refuses to restart or do anything - occasionally the screen is on and freezes).
When I try and use it, nothing happens (the green phone light continues to flash, but no calls are actually received).
I got the phone unlocked through T Mobile, so I don't want a replacement (from the Carphone Warehouse), as this won't be unlocked, and I'll have all sorts of problems trying to convince T mobile to unlock it.
Andrew
Vario ROM Upgrade
This will make some laugh...
I receently emailed T-Mobile customer support asking where their latest ROM upgrade for the Vairo was located..
The answer I got was "I have read your manual ... and ROM upgrades are not possible".... what a lot of use they are !
Just have to keep my eyes peeled in here...
Re: Vario ROM Upgrade
cgrillo said:
This will make some laugh...
I receently emailed T-Mobile customer support asking where their latest ROM upgrade for the Vairo was located..
The answer I got was "I have read your manual ... and ROM upgrades are not possible".... what a lot of use they are !
Just have to keep my eyes peeled in here...
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Send them a reply e-mail with this link :lol:
http://t-mobile.iris-global.com/download_manager_mda_vario.html
No OFFICIAL rom eh? :wink:
Recently my HD has developed an annoying little fault. I'v done a search and a few people had this fault but there were no real replys.
After i power on my HD or do a soft reset, within 15 minutes without fail, services.exe will crash. No matter what i do with the phone, even if i switch it on and let it idle.
I'v removed just about every program on the phone and been through HD tweak and no joy...
The crash doesn't seem to affect how the phone runs, i just wanted to see if there was a known solution i'd missed or at least know if i should be worrying about this process crash if it performs a useful function to the phone.
Many thanks guys!
Have you tried hardresetting your phone? To me it seems that you have installed something that runs as a service and that software crashes. Also you may try to remember when the crashes began and uninstall anything that could be responsible for them.
tkolev said:
Have you tried hardresetting your phone? To me it seems that you have installed something that runs as a service and that software crashes. Also you may try to remember when the crashes began and uninstall anything that could be responsible for them.
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I wanted to try to avoid hard resetting. I have un-installed just about every program on there, certainly anything that could cause this that i can think of.
Ok i just did a hard reset, within 5 minutes of the phone being on services.exe crashed again. This is without the storage card in as well...
I have the same problem on my Orange HTC Touch HD from day one (11/05/09) and so fair been unable to find any info on it in connection to Windows Mobile platform. I am already on my second phone, sim card and I only had the contract two weeks. The phone will not run Orange maps as it refuses to complete install on the 1st start. Wish i never got it now to be honest, but what phone to have instead as I hate the iPhone
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I have the same problem on my Orange HTC Touch HD from day one (11/05/09) and so fair been unable to find any info on it in conuction to Windows Mobile platform. I am already on my second phone, sim card and I only had the contract two weeks. The phone will not run Orange maps as it refuses to complete install on the 1st start. Wish i never got it now to be honest, but what phone to have instead as I hate the iPhone
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From browsing on here there are a few people with this issue with services.exe so we are not alone.
I've just done about 4 hard resets trying differeny suggestions from previous threads and nothing worked. Really annoying as surely since im using stock ROM and even after a hard reset it's doing it, it has to mean there is a glitch with the core software.
As for orange maps... my HD from Orange didn't come with any mapping software i i just downloaded a googlemaps cab.
Are U on an orange ROM??
If so try setting date and time to a month earlier after hard reset at setup - just for testing for a day.. Mostly they (orange) have used some trialware software/extension which is expiring of it's free trial and sending the device to Reset. I know some one who flashed a custom ROM later due to this..
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Ok i just did a hard reset, within 5 minutes of the phone being on services.exe crashed again. This is without the storage card in as well...
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crajee said:
Are U on an orange ROM??
If so try setting date and time to a month earlier after hard reset at setup - just for testing for a day.. Mostly they (orange) have used some software/extension which is expiring and sending the device to Reset. I know some one who flashed a custom ROM later due to this..
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Mmm interesting, I am on a stock 1.19.61.1 WWE (11/25/08) Orange ROM yes. If this is true then i guess it gives me a good excuse to flash a cooked ROM. Been toying with the idea...
I take it after your mate flashed a new ROM the problem disappeared?
Yes, but he was not tied to Orange network..
Some ppl have reported connectivity probs with orange with custom ROM and some have not. Your mileage might vary.
If doesn't work you can always go back to Stock Orange ROM.
BTW I heard this is one of the s'kiest ROM
If you want Orange Maps you can have it free for normal version, just make sure you have a data package and just text:
Orange Maps to 247
I am also with Orange device but it is unlocked. However I flashed the ROM on the first day because it is my second HD after an unfortunate incident involving a set of keys thrown at me in the dark an my first HD in my hand... my point is - you should definitely try a new ROM, however I suggest using USPL and flashing an older cooked ROM (not 1.56 based), so you don't have to update the SPL and make reverting back to stock much easier, should you decide to make use of the warranty, because many people here are complaining about HTC returning their devices because of 'illegal firmware'.
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I am also with Orange device but it is unlocked. However I flashed the ROM on the first day because it is my second HD after an unfortunate incident involving a set of keys thrown at me in the dark an my first HD in my hand... my point is - you should definitely try a new ROM, however I suggest using USPL and flashing an older cooked ROM (not 1.56 based), so you don't have to update the SPL and make reverting back to stock much easier, should you decide to make use of the warranty, because many people here are complaining about HTC returning their devices because of 'illegal firmware'.
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As long as the returning isn't involved with lack of screen or input to the screen (touch pad not working) then you are alright? My personal dread would be flashing the phone have it working great for months then something goes wrong only to find out you cannot revert it then you have no come back at all.
Well - with your screen not working you can still flash a new ROM if you know the procedure. There is no touch input involved in the procedure, so you should be fine with it and you can alway claim that you had to hard reset (the phone after flashing will appear like after hard reset - time/date not set etc.) before returning for repair because of the corporate information stored in it.
Still everyone should be aware that flashing the ROM and/or SPL can void the warranty and decide for themselves.
So what is the deal with returns?
I have Orange care insurance on my contract and in the past with other handsets if i've had a problem i've just sent it off and had a new handset the following day by courrier.
If i was to flash a cooked rom and then have the screen smashed. It would be a replacement under insurance, not warranty so i would still be sent a replacement handset and i guess that would be the end of it ?