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BT WModem and COM ports....

Hi All,
Thanks for all the good suggestions I've got from this site over the last couple of days. I have a new problem for you now...
I see from searching this site that loads of people have had problems using the XDA / XDA II as a wireless modem, but I can't piece together quite what I have to do to get it working with bluetooth.
I've got the pdf from the o2 site, but it's not very clear, and I think it's targeted to W2000 not XP, which is what I have.
SO..... Would somebody be kind enough to let us all know what the step-by step process is to get a laptop, for example, talking to the internet via the XDA II, via BLUETOOTH.
I have the latest o2 ROM, so I have those 2 new check boxes in Bluetooth settings. Most of the laptop setup is ok, but I think the major question is regarding the ports.....
Which port is the XDA talking on?
Which port is the laptop talking on?
How do I make them talk to each other?
And to add to this question - the o2 pdf presumably gives instructions such that we end up using the GPRS line. Can this be modified to use the cellular line to dial up a standard ISP so I can use up some of my free minutes (that's what I do when surfing on the XDA II)?
Sorry it's a bit waffly - PLEASE help! Thanks very much!
Phil

www.o2.co.uk/xda
Under the Bonnet
User Guides
Oddly enough, a file called Using Xda II as a Modem.
Worked for me.

Oddly enough... that's the pdf I'm talking about.
It's not very clear about the COM ports - it says to select the "correct COM port for your connection", so the bit I'm asking about is how to decide upon or determine which is the correct com port for my connection. The important issue here is the bluetooth communication.
It's step-by-step modem and connection guide is also incorrect for XP (mine anyway - as I said, I suspect it's written for 2000, not 2000/XP), so there could be errors in my modem setup - I need to make sure that's not the case as well.
Any more ideas?

OK - let me put this another way - Before pressing connect on the WModem program on the XDA II, do you have to setup a bluetooth serial connection to the PC? If so, HOW? How do you simply make the connection?
Please help - somebody?
Thanks,
Phil

Just to make sure we are on the same document
http://www.myxda.com/html/HowToUse/XdaII/How to setup Wireless Modem for Bluetooth.htm
You first install your bluetooth adapter on your PC and this should install a bluetooth modem on your PC. You then configure that as described in the first section "Desktop setting:" make sure you change the word internet with your service providors APN in the advanced setting string.
Thats your PC side finished for now. no connections made yet.
Ok on to the XDA II, follow the instructions in the next section "Getting Start:" Steps 1 - 6 are all on your XDA II. Now it is waiting to be a modem. Move to your PC and follow the rest of the steps and you hsould get connected.
I used the O2 free WAP APN for my connections when i set it up. This meant having to set the proxy in IE just as you do on the XDA II if you want to browse. This gives limited function for anything other than browsing but for free thats fine for me.
I have not yet tested an ISP using this method but it will be a matter of removing the advanced string in the modem settings and using your ISP details and phone number in the dial pop up instead of *99#. I have done this before with my old nokia 7650.
Also remember if dialing into an ISP like that instead you will only get 9600 baud rate as opposed to the 42k odd that GPRS will give you. However this is fine for most light emails and IMs etc.
Oh and i did bond the 2 devices first. i nearly forgot that.
I Hope this helps you get sorted.

It works fine for GPRS. However when I try to connect to an ISP, I get a "line is busy" message. Any clues?

Dingo - you're great. That's got it.
The pdf that's on the user guide section of 'under the bonnet' section in the XDA site is
http://smsgen.o2-uktech.com/xda2/Xda_II_Modem_Setup_Guide.pdf
which is NAFF!
Your instructions are much better!
I'll try the ISP method soon - I'll let you know if it works.
Cheers!
Phil

OK - looks like I've got the ISP method working.
The process on the XDA is identical, but the modem settings are slightly different. The extra initialisation string can be done away with, and in the security tab of the connection (in network connections) "typical" must be selected rather than "advanced".
Other than that, it's all the sam, for me at least. I use UK2 as my ISP. It's very handy - no registration required.
Hope this helps.
Phil

ISP works for me too. I had to change in CSD line type the data rate to 9600 bps(v.32).
Being used to ADSL, 9600 bps brings back memories

Thanks to everyone who's contributed to this thread - it's helped me connect my laptop to the net thru my XDA2 over bluetooth for the first time!
I have a couple of questions that I hope someone might clear up for me:
1. I've used "mobile.o2.co.uk" in the init string and dialled with *99# which works but the XDA doesn't show any change to the connection icon. Is it using GPRS or data over voice or magic?!
2. Although web and mail downloads works great, I can't send email - I get it returned saying '550 relay not permitted'. A port issue I guess? Can that be solved?
Thanks for your time - keep up the good work.
Andy.

Imate pda2 as an external modem to connect notebook via GPS

I have Imate pda 2 .I Want to use it as an external modem and connect my notebook ( Hp Pavillion 4141) to the internet via GPRS through bluetooth
Could someone please give me a step by step ( I am a novice ) instruction as to how to do this?

hi
did u find a solution ! ??? i can help if u r still Not able to do it.

i could do with a hand
i have the O2 XDAIIi. I followed the O2 instructions from there web site. Im connecting my Tosiba Laptop to the XDA via USB. i can get the laptop to see the xda as a wireless modem, it talks to the xda and the xda shows the 'flashing' modem lights on the screen. the problem i have is the laptop just says page cant be displayed. If you have idiot instructions that wouls be great. the laptop is running XP home edition.
Thanks Pete

I'm very interested in this, because I have "free" gprs at the moment, and if i could run my laptop VIA gprs (even if it is slow) it would free my life up alot!
I didn't even manage to get as far as my laptop seeing my XDA IIi as a wireless modem. Could you send me the link on the O2 site on how to get that far?

the site is here
http://www.my-xda.com/xda2i_spec.html
scroll down and you find this and more
http://www.my-xda.com/downloads/SettingUp_XdaII_s_i_modem.pdf
No when I came to set this up I found my XP didnt match the screen shots so did my best.
also it tells you to put the xda in modem opertation when in the cradle but you need to do it before for, so the PC sees it as a modem rather than xda
Pete

Hi
Someone knows where to get the HTC USB modem driver ?
I don't have thedisk
Thanks

I got it....should be tagged to this message!!
I also managed to get the thing working in the end...
I uninstalled the modem and the network link.
ran the modem prog on the xda, hit start plugged into the usb on the laptop
The laptop active sync disabled before plug in!!
Finds the HTC modem and installs
Then rather than setting up a connection I launched internet explorer, tool, internet options, connections
set one up through there...
YOU DO NEED to add the initalization string from the O2 instruction sheet for the serial connection though. otherwise it fails the connection
AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","MOBILE.O2.CO"
also check out this place for more info on GPRS settup
http://www.filesaveas.com/gprs.html
Pete

perfect!!
TDIPower said:
I got it....should be tagged to this message!!
I also managed to get the thing working in the end...
I uninstalled the modem and the network link.
ran the modem prog on the xda, hit start plugged into the usb on the laptop
The laptop active sync disabled before plug in!!
Finds the HTC modem and installs
Then rather than setting up a connection I launched internet explorer, tool, internet options, connections
set one up through there...
YOU DO NEED to add the initalization string from the O2 instruction sheet for the serial connection though. otherwise it fails the connection
AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","MOBILE.O2.CO"
also check out this place for more info on GPRS settup
http://www.filesaveas.com/gprs.html
Pete
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thats exactly... the way it should be.. 100% working!
anybody out there with a macintosh who has done this??????

Just getting around to trying your instructions.
If this works I will be super happy. More happy than a Chocoholic in a chocolate wearhouse....or an alcoholic with the keys to a brewary.

this stupid board
just to clear this up for the USB mode you still need to enter the string. which can be found on the O2 instructions for the serial connetion of i posted there anyway.
Pete

I attempted to set it up, but got no-where really....
The instructions are very confusing.

tomw86 Ive added you to msm so you if you're on i can try and chat you through it.
Did you get the modem installed??
Here's how I did it.
Open active sync, File, connection settings.
Disable the USB option.
Close Active sync
fire up the XDA, Programs, WModem (wireless modem program)
Plug the XDA into the computer.
It should now find the modem and go through the give me a driver bit. Tell it to go manual and point it to where the drive is located, if it is the one I posted above then you will need to unzip it first (I had to zip it to upload onto here) or point to the location on the cd.
Let me know if you get that far. Ill try and sort out the rest. I got the modem connected and the laptop to talk to it, connecting to O2 but my IE wouldnt connect through it. I ended up removing the connection and staring again and it worked.
Pete

kjam as bluetooth modem

Hi there,
I've been trying to set up my kjam as a bluetooth modem for my laptop without any success.
Could someone help me out here?
Thanks
A

zsizsi said:
I've been trying to set up my kjam as a bluetooth modem for my laptop without any success.
Could someone help me out here?
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i guess you didn't check conent of CD included in box with your k-jam yet. on my CD i've found this document:
ftp://xda:[email protected]_using_i-mate_K-JAM_as_a_Bluetooth_Modem.pdf
this file is also available on www.clubimate.com support site after registration...

Anyone got the KJam / Mini S working over bluetooth with GPRS when connected to a Apple Powerbook?

Thanks,
Actually I followed the instructions of that doc but it still won't work. Maybe it's the stupid bluetooth stack of my toshiba laptop.
I can't see why activesync can't handle this right away. Oh, I can, it's an MS product.
Oh well. I'll keep trying

BTW, Have you killed AS?

i update my bt stack from toshiba web site and it works now.

What do you mean by killing activesync?

zsizsi said:
What do you mean by killing activesync?
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Start > Settings > System > Memory > Running Programs >ActiveSync > Stop
:wink:

ah, thanks

RE: Using Wizard as Bluetooth Modem for Apple Powerbook
adambern,
I finally managed to get my K-Jam working as a Bluetooth Modem over GPRS after quite a bit of searching! I can only verify that this will work in OS X 10.4.4 (latest version of Tiger), since I didn't seem to have the options available before I updated Tiger.
Firstly, you will need to download the Generic Mobile Phone Script available from Ross Barkman's excellent homepage: http://www.taniwha.org.uk/. I have attached it here, but you should really visit the site, if only to donate a pint to Ross for his excellent work!
You will also need to know the GPRS settings for your network. Again, Ross can sort you out on his site.
1. Put the Generic Mobile Phone script in the /Library/Modem Scripts folder on your Mac.
2. Open the Bluetooth Setup Assistant, and search for your Wizard.
3. Once found, allow your Mac to pair with your phone. The Mac should then come up with a couple of options. One of these options will be "Use your phone as a modem for your computer", or something along those lines. Tick this check box.
4. Your Mac will now ask for a load of settings. Make sure you enter the phone number as *99#, and enter your username and password as determined from your network.
5. Click OK, and close the Assistant.
6. Open Internet Connect in your Apllications folder.
7. Select Bluetooth, and click Dial.
8. Voila! Your phone should now be working as a modem!
If you have any problems, refer to the notes Ross gives with the scripts. I hope this is of assistance to those of us with a sensible choice in computers .

Many thanks Invisigoth... I'll give it a go later.
Great community spirit.

gosh, i still can't get it to work. i'm running xp though.
windows is trying to dial but then it doesn't work

You are a SAINT........
THANK YOU.
Worked first time for me and at last I have an internet connection from my phone with my Mac Powerbook..............
Again thank you.
Robin

Hallelujah, I finally got it to work.
I have one question though. It looks like that the 115 kbit bt com port speed is the bottle neck in this connection. Is there any way to raise that?
Thanks
A

Using my XDA2i as a modem to connect my laptop to internet

Hi
I want to use my XDA2i to connect my laptop to the net....
Any ideas how to achieve this, thinking bluetooth laptop to XDA then use GPRS on XDA to connect.
Thanks

Hi,
Look overhere ftp://xdaupload:[email protected]/USB_modem/ for modem driver & documentation.
Cheers, M

Hi
Thanks for the reply, however, I want to connect my laptop through bluetooth to my XDA and use the GPRS on my XDA to connect to the net.
I need to achieve this without using a USB connection, if I understand correctly the link you supplied tells me how to connect USB modem etc.
Maybe I'm completely misunderstanding. It's all so simple using a Nokia 6230i, plug and play virtually!! (until my company deactivated data calls:-()
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks

Set the Connection Type to Bluetooth in the Wireless Modem program, then push the start button & make the BT connection to your laptop. Hope it works this way or experiment a little with it pls. I use the USB connection & don't have BT on my PC, so can't try the settings myself.
Regards, M

As I assume that you're using Windows vom Micro$oft, just Pair the two devices (not using 'Wireless Modem').
It will automatically install a Bluetooth-Modem
David

Hi
What type of connection do I need, I can only find a network access connection to my laptop, thats all that is available.
I am using a HP laptop with XP home, its a new one so would imagine everything is in order.

seek and you shall find
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=24383

Thanks for the replies people...
Although I have to admit I'm struggling still....given up on the bluetooth connection and reverted back to USB cable but still I can't connect.
Here's the steps I have used:
Unticked Active Sync allowing USB connections.
Restarted laptop, connected USB cable to XDA and selected Wireless Modem, used the drop down to select USB and selected Start.....
the documentation etlls me that my laptop will go into a plug and play routine of allowing me to install it as a modem but this does not happen.
And yes, I have admin rights on the laptop.
Do I have to do anything with connections/modems because I haven't.
Am I being thick? Not sure but it's driving me to distraction...

start the modem program on your XDA (Start-Programs) and conenct it, windows will ask for a driver. install the driver from ftp. then create a new modem connection in windows. here (in germany) the number windows must call is *99# (for GPRS/UMTS)

Thank you for your patience...
The XDA installed as stated using driver on FTP, great.
Run up IE, tools, options, connections and added a dial up connection called XDA USB Link.(com8)
Settings of which are:
user name2web
passwordassword
untick automatically detect settings
untick configuration script
untick proxy server
Not sure where I'm going wrong but when I dial it errors with...No dial tone detected.
To recap I am dialing with GPRS connected on XDA and the WModem program connected through USB started
Am I missing something?

Can anyone help??????
Please?????

Try running usbmodemdialer instead of DUN by IE, it's in the package on the ftp.
Cheers, M

Hi
OK, I am now using the HTC USB dialer but I'm receiving an error 734 code, which is a PPP issue.
To recap, I am starting Wmodem, connecting to laptop (GPRS off) using a USB cable. Starting HTC USB Modem with APN as Internet & modem as HTC USB modem.
On XDA I get a connection light, then send and receive lights flash before the lot dissapear. The laptop goes through Connecting/verifying/registering then Remote access error 734.
I'm nearly there...
Please excuse my ignorance on this subject :roll:
Thanks

Yeah seems like it again :--(
Upload is running to ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/
Regards, M

Hi
Ive done everything as suggested but I'm getting a 680 error, this I believe is a "no dial tone" error.
Please, where am I going wrong?
Thanks
Gary

Frankly I haven't got the slightest idea what's going wrong. It works like a charm with my magician & Windows XP Sp2.
M

Hm how could the line be busy? are you phoning the same time? (always when you try to connect? sorry silly question.)
Are you sure your provider give you GPRS Access? (i don't know any who don't )
did you a google search on this error?

Hi
Yes, I googled it and it appears to be "No dial tone" not line busy....I'm not in a call when attempting to connect.
I've tried every possible combination of settings......usernames and passwords etc....
There isn't any issues with my laptop and updates etc. I am sys admin by day!!! This is just beating the hell out of me. Incidentally my laptop is a HP pavillion zd8369ea, a new one!!! Alpine is running radio 1.04.
Yes, data calls are enabled on my SIM, I can connect perfectly to IE on XDA and mail etc.
Taken down all firewalls etc and nothing....
Help
Thanks
Gary

Follow the instructions here:
http://www.seeo2.com/html/HowToUse/XdaII/How to setup Wireless Modem for Bluetooth.htm
At part 5. the line you need is:
AT+CGDCONT=1,"IP","mobile.o2.co.uk","",0,0
At point 11. you don't need a user name or password.

Wireless Modem or Modem Link help please

Hi all.
I want to setup my O2 Exec to use as a modem for my laptop.
I have 2 apps on the XDA, Modem Link and Wireless Modem
If I use Modem Link and change the connection to USB, when I click activate it says " Unsupported or unavailable connection. Verify that your phone supports etc etc.". I have closed Activesync on the XDA and tried clicking Activate in modem link when the PC is disconnect to the laptop and also when it is conencted. ActiveSync on laptop is set up not to use USB.
I also tried to use the Wireless Modem app, set to USB and click start, it lights up connected, but can't see how I use it from the laptop.
Can anyone offer any help?
Thanks
Merlin

http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=37298

Thanks. I did a quick search and couldn't find that one!
Merlin

rbmerlin said:
Thanks. I did a quick search and couldn't find that one!
Merlin
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I didn't even search for it, it's on the first page :lol: Did it work you for ya?

Hi. Oh!
No and yes! No, with a USB cable it didn't, Exec kept saying "you must end data call first"
Switched it to use USB and setup laptop to dial *99# on Bluetooth modem and it works. Actually, bluetooth is better then I can keep XDA in my car kit charging in car and use laptop without looking for a cable!
richard