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Mac folks: here's your chance to help a fellow Mac user...

I was reminded that I closed a thread because of fear of OS-wars, thus robbing the original poster of an opportunity to get an answer. Here's another try....
(I know that the XDA2 offers the Wireless Modem via serial cable, IR, USB and Bluetooth, but have no clue of Mac settings...)
addlepated said:
Hey folks. I run a Mac Powerbook with OS X. One of the things I love about my Treo is the fact that I can use it as a wireless modem over USB. I see that this isn't possible with the XDA, and since I don't have a serial or IR port, I wouldn't be able to use the serial cable solution. I've read that you can use bluetooth on some phones to establish a wireless modem connection - do you think this might be a possibility with the XDA II? If not, will a USB/serial adapter let me make a connection via serial cable (and if so, anyone know the Mac settings to make it happen?)?
Thanks a bunch! I'm in an agony of indecision as to which phone to buy, but am leaning towards the XDA II (if I can get a lower price than $850!). This is one of the most important factor in my decision!
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What about BT connection ? Or http://www.pocketmac.net/ ?

Hey, just got my XDA II, coming from a P900 as my main phone. I love the XDA II but DEARLY miss the connectivity with the P900. Anyone have any updates on using the XDA II as a modem in OSX?

xda2 -> bluetooth -> pc -> isdn

i would like to use my xda2 as a regular wireless phone.
i thought it could be possible by putting an isdn-card into my pc and then connect to that pc via bluetooth.
however i have no idea how to do it or what software is needed.
could anyone help me with this please?

when the pda is connected to activesync over usb or bluetooth it have access to the same network as the pc

yes, i know, but i would like to know wich software i have to use to make it possible to use it as a regular phone.

Wait, let me get this straight:
You want to use your XDA2 and laptop to dial through the fixed phone line where XDA will act simply as wireless headset (like DECT phones)?
I don't think such software exists, the closest you can get is using Skype over WiFi or the PC internet connection (via ActiveSync).
Besides, can ISDN card even make voice calls? I think you need a good old fashion analog modem for that.

afaik there does exist a software for that for linux, but my pc is windows based.
and yes, isdn can make voise calls (search google for isdn cis).
for linux have a look at this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=8143&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=isdn

Asterisk (http://www.asterisk.org/) works. You'll have to set up a linux box to run it on though.

and exactly that is my problem.
i only have a windows pc that i could use for that.

cant you just dualboot ?
or boot of a cd into linux heck recall linux distro's
back in the day which could fit on a floppy

You could run linux on a secondary inexpensive low spec box. Don't be afraid of linux, it's worth giving it a try

im not afraid of linux, but i have two pcs, one htpc and one to work with.
and since i do not want to reboot one of these to be able to use my telephone, i just cant install linux.
and since im still going to school, i dont have that much money to afford another pc.
so does nobody know of a windows solution for this problem?

Connection to LAN via non-wireless Router, autocharger...

I know that connection to the internet can be achieved via USB&ActiveSync or Wifi. But can the device be connect to the internet via normal Ethernet plug on my (non-wireless) router. Which adapters are required to do so? At home I do not have a wireless router so I am wondering if this is possible…
And, can auto charger for my Hermes (TyTN) be also used for Athena??
Thanks again
Uros

Buy a cheap wireless access point (with no router) and connect it to the port on your wired only router.

the phone may also connect to the internet via bluetooth
and yes i believe the charger from your hermes should work
Usb voltages are the same pretty much

Thanks. Would this device called "Macally 5-in-1 USB Combo Kit" allow this?
see -> http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=115169
Which Bluetooth device do you recommend?
Uros

cerk2006 said:
Thanks. Would this device called "Macally 5-in-1 USB Combo Kit" allow this?
see -> http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=115169
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No. That's just a bunch of connectors. It won't help your situation.
I still think Pyrofer's sollution is the best one (second post).

any bluetooth dongle should work
but ideally speaking if u can afford it go for the wireless access point it will cost a little more than a bluetooth but its well worth the extra 10-15 bucks

Guys, many thanks for your opinion. Any yes, am I aware the wireless solution is the best way to go.
Nonetheless I would like to stay "wired" for some time more. Reason is that I have two small kinds and we are leaving in a small apartment. I would like to prevent exposing them to any unnecessary "wireless" technologies as long as possible, at least now when they are growing up.
So, once again I am asking you: is there an adapter between Ethernet plug (RJ-45) and (mini) USB on the Athena and will eventually connection to the internet work?

There is NO wired adaptor for the Athena. The closest you can get is a USB lead and activesync, then use the PCs internet connection.

USB to Ethernet Adapter ???
Thanks all for your feedback!
What about this device: USB 2.0 to RJ-45 Ethernet Adapter
(http://www.pacificgeek.com/product.asp?ID=42665&C=212&S=-1) in combinatin with 4 in 1 cable?? Could this work??
(Or http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=HE-130R&cat=NET)

Does it come with A PocketPC driver? If not, no use.
If it doesnt say it comes with PPC drivers, i doubt it does.

You are right, Pyrofer, it doesn't support the PPCs
But maybe this one does: http://www.clarinetsys.com/en/product-ea104.htm,
I just need to check the price...

cerk2006 said:
You are right, Pyrofer, it doesn't support the PPCs
But maybe this one does: http://www.clarinetsys.com/en/product-ea104.htm,
I just need to check the price...
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On the web site, it says:
Supports PPC 2002/2003/2003SE, CE5/4.2/4.1 and Windows® Mobile 5.0 (coming soon)
I am not sure it means the driver for WM5 is coming soon.

cerk2006 said:
Nonetheless I would like to stay "wired" for some time more. Reason is that I have two small kinds and we are leaving in a small apartment. I would like to prevent exposing them to any unnecessary "wireless" technologies as long as possible, at least now when they are growing up.
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Ummm, you want to protect them from wireless radio waves? I take it you leave the phone in flight mode when in their presence, don't use Microwave ovens in your house, haven't got cordless phones e.t.c.? Sorry, don't want to bash your views, but there IS an awful lot of paranoia put out by the media and many people who jump on the bandwagon before establishing the facts.
As for sharing the internet, I know you can do it from PC->Ameo V easily with the included 'internet sharing' applet. I do it via BT, but USB works equally well.

[Q] MicroUSB to ethernet ?

I've an HTC Desire HD and can connect via wifi, I could connect via cable and tether a PC via the phones 3G signal etc However, I was wondering if, in the absence of USB connectivity and no wifi or 3G, would a USB to RJ45 cable be made to work? That is, having a wired ethernet connection to the phone's microUSB port. Obviously you would need an ethernet driver on the phone.
Now I don't have an immediate need for this, it's more a case of 'I wonder ...... '. I've read that USB host mode is not possible but not sure how/if that would negate being able to driver ethernet over the microUSB port. Anyone know for sure?
Ta
Dave

dvhttn said:
I've an HTC Desire HD and can connect via wifi, I could connect via cable and tether a PC via the phones 3G signal etc However, I was wondering if, in the absence of USB connectivity and no wifi or 3G, would a USB to RJ45 cable be made to work? That is, having a wired ethernet connection to the phone's microUSB port. Obviously you would need an ethernet driver on the phone.
Now I don't have an immediate need for this, it's more a case of 'I wonder ...... '. I've read that USB host mode is not possible but not sure how/if that would negate being able to driver ethernet over the microUSB port. Anyone know for sure?
Ta
Dave
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I think the answer is not without usb host, and the cable would need to be more like a dongle with a nic in it.
Sent from my DROID2 using XDA App

mrkite38 said:
I think the answer is not without usb host, and the cable would need to be more like a dongle with a nic in it. ...
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You're right of course. Doh ..... (on my part). But then you can get things such as this ... http://www.saverstore.com/product/2...NIC-1427-100--USB-to-RJ45-Network-connection- ... (first one I found - may be cr*p ).
Dave

I have seen this work using a Router with a usb port.
It requires a Linux router with enough guts to do it, Tommato/DD-WRT running, and one must fiddle with it. Essentially one uses the router to share the internet USB connection. It is probably the cheapest and most supported route.

LargePrime said:
I have seen this work using a Router with a usb port.
It requires a Linux router with enough guts to do it, Tommato/DD-WRT running, and one must fiddle with it. Essentially one uses the router to share the internet USB connection. It is probably the cheapest and most supported route.
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That would be lovely though .. Ill try it later ...

Let us know how it goes.

Back in the day I had an HP iPaq that didn't have WiFi built in, but I could connect it to a wired network via a small adapter that functioned as a nic. Hypothetically you could find or fashion such a device to function over mini-USB, and then write some drivers to get it to share data with an attached computer. Just my 2c.

If you want to write drivers, you have a whole new level of complexity.
USB port of a router is a known cheap solution.

I'd have to second the OP's idea, as it does have merit. Hopefully the work on getting the USB Host working can show some results in the future....
However, I'm in the same boat, where I have a Nook Color running CM7 I use as a tablet, and an N1. I'm also on business in China a lot, and I prefer to use the NC in place of a laptop, although in some places wireless is flakey or non-existent. In those scenarios I'd rather not use the N1 as an access point using the 3G network to run data, as it adds up quick, even when using China sim cards.
It's these situations where a means to connect an android device to a physical ethernet is desirable, whether by USB or by wireless to a dongle.
This is the one device I'm testing out now is a CQR-980 from Cnet. You'll have to google it, because I can't post links.
The reason for this unit is it's size (its 3.52 (L) x 2.32 (W) x 1.06 (H) inches), and full support for setting up a secure wireless environment. If it works right, I will pre-configure it as an access point with WPA2, and it should be able to be plugged into any ethernet port in a hotel or otherwise, and I should get an IP on the NC or N1 via wireless.
If anyone else has found a better way to make this sort of setup work, would love to hear of it. The fewer devices I have to bring the better. Yet this is still better than dragging even a small laptop around.

I have seen this work using a Router with a usb port.

The Phone got to have specialized hardware to enable it to use just that USB to RJ-45 cable.
But in my experience, I could be wrong about it. Don't know what the R & D guys will cook up next.

This could make the job of having RJ45 connected to USB?
http://www.cnetusa.com/eng/CQR-981.php

Also this seems interesting:
http://www.euogo.com/usb-lan-adapte...to-rj45-adapter-for-android-tablets_p420.html
Will it work with an ASUS Transformer (Honeycomb 3.0)?

I have looked around a lot on the web for the MicroUSB to RJ45 Ethernet on a Droid, no luck. I have small hardware devices that have embedded configuration servers that are only accessible via TCP/IP Ethernet RJ45 ports and I normally use my netbook for that. I thought it would sure be cool to be able to access those embedded servers via my Droid2G for example, and get rid of the netbook. It seems like the phone can do almost everything else.
I've read about USB host mode etc, and the mini dongles with NIC's in them seem more promising, but I guess there has not been a big enough need for the guru's to go after it. Aparently it may available on the Android 3.x tablets but no able to backport to Android 2.x? Verizon will likely never upgrade my D2G OS.

dvhttn said:
You're right of course. Doh ..... (on my part). But then you can get things such as this ... http://www.saverstore.com/product/2...NIC-1427-100--USB-to-RJ45-Network-connection- ... (first one I found - may be cr*p ).
Dave
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What if you used this but also used a usb extender so you could plug in the phone cable to the usb to rj45.? Then all that would be left would be the drivers.

With the exception of cybdroid's situation I think that a little wireless ap would work great. I have a little netgear wgr101 that works great.. you connect it to a rj45 port in the motel, and then wifi from the phone or laptop.
The reason i'm on this tipic, is I was thinking rj45 to rj45 on a copier. Then I can set same subnet, and ip range with a crossover cable(or ipx on on the copier). Then I wouldn't have to use a full laptop to troubleshoot...
now i'm not an apple fan but redpark has something for the i- series of apple products to do exactly what i'm curious about... you can check it on the tech journal.
Now that I spend some time reading and thinking, I might even be able to use my little wgr101 if i figure out a hosts file in the android os to direct traffic through the router. And, if I don't have to wear out the usb jack on the device, all the better.
I think I have my problem fixed, just went ahead a posted this as it might give someone else an idea. Might be a solution that even the op enjoys entertaining... I think op#2 and frayedends are on the right track.

[Q] NC to WP7 Phone via USB?

I've been running CM7 on my NC for about 6-weeks now, overall I'm totally impressed both by the NC and especially CM7.
I have a company issued WP7 based Dell Venue Pro phone, I can tether my laptop to it via a USB cable to Internet access when I can find an open wifi service, either free or paid.
I'd like to do the same with the NC. That is tether the NC to the phone and use the phones Internet connection from the NC. I tried searching and couldn't find anything that did this, it was all about using Android on the phone, which I don't have...
Pointers, links etc. anyone. I'd appreciate it.

Your phone would need to support tether by bluetooth, or allow for making itself a wifi hotspot. Just a brief google search seems to imply that neither are functional at present.

Thanks for the response, let me summarize what I think you saying. The phone itself can be used via USB cable for tethering from a laptop, but since a driver does not exist to go from an Android device via USB cable to a phone, the only options are wireless or bluetooth.
My phone, a Dell Venue Pro running Windows Phone 7, doesn't have support for either wireless or bluetooth tethering, so this combination will not work.
Correct?

That's a fair summary, yes. It's just one more reason why I'll never have another Windows Mobile OS in my lifetime.

So, the lack of a driver of Android is a reason to bash Microsoft? I'm not a MS fanboi or shill, so I understand the reasons why you wouldn't endorse MS... but I have to say I'm still confused.
Does this mean that their is some missing function in Android that stops it being the tethering client via USB? or is it simply because Micro-B plug cannot terminate with another Micro-B plug? or something else?

trimark said:
So, the lack of a driver of Android is a reason to bash Microsoft? I'm not a MS fanboi or shill, so I understand the reasons why you wouldn't endorse MS... but I have to say I'm still confused.
Does this mean that their is some missing function in Android that stops it being the tethering client via USB? or is it simply because Micro-B plug cannot terminate with another Micro-B plug? or something else?
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No, I bash MS for the path they've gone down in the mobile market. My first PDA device was a Dell Axim X5, then a Dell Axim x50v, a second generation Zune 120gig, and lastly my HTC Touch (Vogue). I've enjoyed each of those devices in turn. However, based on MS's stance and posturing on some fairly ridicules patents (and now WP7) has soured any ongoing relationship I would have with any future MS based mobile device.
I also bash MS for crippling their mobile platform to only allow for tethering by way of USB. If the brief glance I've given it remains true, even then you need to go out of your way to get around this issue by following guides on XDA or similar.
I don't think this is an Android OS issue. Maybe now that the user verygreen has managed to unlock USB host mode on the nook, things like this can be made to work. However, I don't see it being easily done as you'll need a means to tell the Nook to use some service on the Dell to accomplish data transfer.