[Q] NC to WP7 Phone via USB? - Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've been running CM7 on my NC for about 6-weeks now, overall I'm totally impressed both by the NC and especially CM7.
I have a company issued WP7 based Dell Venue Pro phone, I can tether my laptop to it via a USB cable to Internet access when I can find an open wifi service, either free or paid.
I'd like to do the same with the NC. That is tether the NC to the phone and use the phones Internet connection from the NC. I tried searching and couldn't find anything that did this, it was all about using Android on the phone, which I don't have...
Pointers, links etc. anyone. I'd appreciate it.

Your phone would need to support tether by bluetooth, or allow for making itself a wifi hotspot. Just a brief google search seems to imply that neither are functional at present.

Thanks for the response, let me summarize what I think you saying. The phone itself can be used via USB cable for tethering from a laptop, but since a driver does not exist to go from an Android device via USB cable to a phone, the only options are wireless or bluetooth.
My phone, a Dell Venue Pro running Windows Phone 7, doesn't have support for either wireless or bluetooth tethering, so this combination will not work.
Correct?

That's a fair summary, yes. It's just one more reason why I'll never have another Windows Mobile OS in my lifetime.

So, the lack of a driver of Android is a reason to bash Microsoft? I'm not a MS fanboi or shill, so I understand the reasons why you wouldn't endorse MS... but I have to say I'm still confused.
Does this mean that their is some missing function in Android that stops it being the tethering client via USB? or is it simply because Micro-B plug cannot terminate with another Micro-B plug? or something else?

trimark said:
So, the lack of a driver of Android is a reason to bash Microsoft? I'm not a MS fanboi or shill, so I understand the reasons why you wouldn't endorse MS... but I have to say I'm still confused.
Does this mean that their is some missing function in Android that stops it being the tethering client via USB? or is it simply because Micro-B plug cannot terminate with another Micro-B plug? or something else?
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No, I bash MS for the path they've gone down in the mobile market. My first PDA device was a Dell Axim X5, then a Dell Axim x50v, a second generation Zune 120gig, and lastly my HTC Touch (Vogue). I've enjoyed each of those devices in turn. However, based on MS's stance and posturing on some fairly ridicules patents (and now WP7) has soured any ongoing relationship I would have with any future MS based mobile device.
I also bash MS for crippling their mobile platform to only allow for tethering by way of USB. If the brief glance I've given it remains true, even then you need to go out of your way to get around this issue by following guides on XDA or similar.
I don't think this is an Android OS issue. Maybe now that the user verygreen has managed to unlock USB host mode on the nook, things like this can be made to work. However, I don't see it being easily done as you'll need a means to tell the Nook to use some service on the Dell to accomplish data transfer.

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Using Windows Mobile phone as a USB WiFi receiver?

I was wondering if this is possible. I've heard of people using ICS Control to turn it into a hotspot, but I no longer have a working WiFi card. I just got a new computer with Windows 7 and all I can do is use the built-in Internet Connection Sharing that comes with WinMo until I get a long ethernet cable to wire from my router to my room.
So I was wondering if it's possible to use the phone's ability to receive WiFi to share that connection with the computer. I'm sure there's some way for it to be done. Any suggestions?
I have the same question
same situation here.
After some searching, I've found a program called "Serialtunnel" and "wmtunnel" that is supposed to do just that, however I cannot find any working download link...
Let me know if you find anything.
http://www.wmwifirouter.com/
Will work as wifi to usb, making your phone a WIFI usb adapter. I use it with my desktop when hooked to my TV in the livingroom, rather than a 35 foot cord.
Its as simple as= plug in phone, start Wmwifirouter , touch wifi to usb button.
Battery charges while working so it doesn't kill it.
phone's ability to receive WiFi to share that connection with the computer can only be obtained if your phone allows to do so. check out the official site of your phone developrs. there will definitly be some considerations about this
Two solutions
Found two programs that do just this, both work on Windows Mobile (and unfortunately not on Symbian), but are supposed to do just what you're looking for.
ICS Control
Serial Tunnel
IF anyone figures out how to get this (converted) to run on a Symbian device... Thanks.
Anyone?
Bumping to re-ask question.
WIFI
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I'm looking for a program that can "Wifi to USB" on a symbian (Nokia) phone.
In other words, I want to use my phone as a wireless adapter for an old pc without wifi.
would prob get more luck asking in a symbian forum

Is the USB master? Can I connect external HDD etc?

I wonder if the USB on the Nexus One allows me to connect an external hard drive. I'm only talking about data transmission with externally powered USB-devices. The N1 doesn't need to power USB-devices for me to be satisfied.
And if not: could the deficiency possibly be mended software-wise, or is it a limitation of the hardware itself?
Thanks beforehand!
no it cannot be the host. Read this on a google forum, someone posted the link as an answer to a similar question yesterday.
Thank you for your answer, britoso!
But oh, what a pitty!!!
Can't it possibly be fixed by booting with another software driver or something?
What's the point of removing this ability? It seems completely ridiculous. It gains nothing at all to "un-specify" USB host capability:
"Now, I have my files on this USB memory stick and here's the Nexus One. Oh, what's the use. Google didn't care at all about this kind of scenaria..."
Well, let's see what can be done with bulky wireless adapters and stuff like that then, to mend this unnecessary fail of the N1... I probably need to use a PC running Windows and a cable internet in order to have any use at all of the N1. Was this the purpose of this deliberate design "feature"?!?
this feature was not removed, but simply never implemented into the Android OS (afaik). if USB was host that means anything connected to it would have to draw power from the Nexus One's battery. Im sure HTC does not want this, because some things connected to USB can put incredible stress on a battery.
I thought the inability was due to a USB design that will allow charging, but doesn't allow hosting.
(at least that what I gathered about the n900 and why it couldn't act as a host.)
edit: nevermind nokia opted to skip on the go support to get the product out faster.
I don't know if there's a hardware limitation in place, but even if there isn't, the software does not support it.
There's an app for the n900 to add host support in the maemo repository. Don't know if it works though. I've always thought host support was due to the software.
Go here:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=738
Sign in with your google ID. Vote for the feature by clicking the star.
(While you are there, click on "Back to list" and browse for other issues/features you care about and "star" them too...)
Its been accomplished on the Droid... Host mode works, but as there are no drivers, anything that runs over usb will turn on / charge but not connect.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/droid-gets-a-usb-hack-allowing-it-to-control-printers-and-camera/
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Its been accomplished on the Droid... Host mode works, but as there are no drivers, anything that runs over usb will turn on / charge but not connect.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/10/droid-gets-a-usb-hack-allowing-it-to-control-printers-and-camera/
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Thanks for posting this as I saw this on another site and came here to raise awareness. I've heard that someone got a USB keyboard working over USB host. Could someone try this out on their N1?

Help with bluetooth! hci_get_route returns ERNODEV

Hi!
I am developing an application which connects a Wiimote to a bluetooth enabled android phone/device.
I did this by interfacing with the native bluez bluetooth library directly, rather than via the Android API. The reason for this is that Android API doesn't support HID devices, which a Wiimote is.
A problem now is that on some devices, mostly those sold by HTC, my app simply doesn't work. After calling the hci_get_route(NULL), this function should return an id of the first bluetooth device available (most likely 0), but instead returns ERNODEV (-1) as if no bluetooth device is available.
I suspect it has something to do with our beloved HTC grossly modifying something in the libbluetooth library to make this fail to work.
Has anyone ever done this kind of bluetooth interfacing?
How could I make this work?
Rooting the phone and replacing a library or two would be fine too.
For a list of working and non-working devices, check out the 2nd post of this thread.
HTC support
I just sent a customer service message to HTC about this issue. I hope they can get back to me with a "we'll work on it" message, or something. I really want this on my incredible. I'm new to coding like this, but could you disguise the Wiimote as another kind of device?
Just a response from someone equally interested in a solution. I'm trying to set up a bluetooth keyboard (Freedom Pro) with my gsm Hero running the 1.5 based MCR 3.2. Available drivers (Freedom's own, BlueInput & KeyPro) should work with 1.5, but HTC devices, especially the Hero, seem to be lacking something that is present in most 1.5 builds.
Investigating, I find the same issue of no route to device, because there is no known device. AIUI when bluetooth is turned on hciattach is used to establish a link to the hardware. At that point an hciconfig should list the hci0 device as present but down. However I find this list remains empty at all times.
I found this for keyboards.
Since I can't post the link, it's called "KeyPro for Android"
Google "keypro android" and click the first link.
Maybe that could help. It says it works with any android device above 1.5, however, I did read that some keyboards use a different type of bluetooth profile, SPP rather than HID.
I haven't heard back form HTC yet either.
EDIT: Upon reading your post again, you have tried this. Sorry, my bad.
Thanks for looking though The Freedom Pro is switchable between spp & hid profiles, so I figured I was safe, lol. Not with HTC's butchered 1.5 bt it seems.
Did you ever try to use the most likely id 0 on an HTC device? Even though the call to get the id fails?
Maybe you could use also the Android API to synchronize if a device is present and then use the id that Android API gives you?
Just some thoughts since I would love to see that App running on my Desire with Snesoid
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tobren said:
Did you ever try to use the most likely id 0 on an HTC device? Even though the call to get the id fails?
Maybe you could use also the Android API to synchronize if a device is present and then use the id that Android API gives you?
Just some thoughts since I would love to see that App running on my Desire with Snesoid
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Believe it or not, I actually tried this. Unfortunately, the next command (to bind the bluetooth adapter) also fails, and of course every command after that one because the adapter is not bound.
Thanks for the idea anyway.
usb
does the wii remote have usb connectivity? could it be possible to have the communication pass through that connection rather than bluetooth? one advantage of this would be increased battery life and probably better compatibility across models.
i'm sure some people would prefer bluetooth, but i figure i'll always be using it very close to my phone so i can see the screen, so the wired option is actually a bit more attractive (considering battery performance).
i know ps3 has usb connectivity as well, you just might need an adapter (mini to micro).
rubber soul said:
does the wii remote have usb connectivity? could it be possible to have the communication pass through that connection rather than bluetooth?
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i know ps3 has usb connectivity as well, you just might need an adapter (mini to micro).
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I'm pretty sure the first answer is no - our wii is round at a friend's atm. However even if it was yes, you'd need more than an adapter. USB operates with one device as master & the other as slave. To allow you to connect slave devices to your phone it would need to be in host mode. Some mobile phone hardware implementations support this, however I don't know of any mainstream Android kernels which do. Even if you workaround that, you're left with the huge issue that slave devices can assume it's safe to draw power from the USB bus which could do nasty things (tm) to a lower power device like a mobile. This can be worked around via a powered hub, but it all gets very messy.
I looked into this a few months ago, hoping I'd be able to use a usb keyboard with my Hero. I ended up with a BT keyboard instead. Of course that doesn't work either but for completely different reasons, as hinted at by this thread. Hopefully a 2.1 ROM will solve that, but that's the subject of numerous other threads.
Uh, just throwing stuff out, what if you have a pc with two bluetooth adapters, it connects to the wii mote, and then broadcasts that in someway the android api can understand?
Also please actually try working on something with a rooted phone, the HTC EVO 4g is rootable, and I will make man love(no homo) if you get it working.
Either one works lol.
Using a PC as a proxy is kind of useless. If you have a wiimote connected to a PC, you might as well play games on the PC itself (there are nes/snes/sega/etc emulators for PCs too).
At this moment, rooting doesn't help with the problem either.
@1 True
@2 That sucks.
Do we think that this will/could be fixed in HTC's Froyo update for 2010 devices? Not looking for definite answers, just a ponderin'.
well if you send the null pairing code to the wiimote from the default bluetooth pairing screen.. it will fail to communicate with the wiimote too
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Do we think that this will/could be fixed in HTC's Froyo update for 2010 devices? Not looking for definite answers, just a ponderin'.
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Doesn't it work in stock/vanilla Eclair? I thought the main problem was with Cupcake, though HTC seem to have done weird things to every stock firmware. I read that removing Sense from a 2.1 HTC ROM breaks bluetooth. Go figure. And there was I thinking Sense was a gui enhancement
I contacted HTC about their bluetooth issues and just received this response
My name is Courtney, and I would be glad to assist you today. I understand that you are unhappy with the Bluetooth connectivity on your HTC EVO. HTC is aware of the problems occurring with the EVO and Bluetooth. We are currently investigating this issue and are working on a solution. As soon as we have an update, we will inform our customers. Thank you for contacting HTC America Technical Support. If you need further assistance, please feel free to contact us via email or at 1-866-449-8358. We are open 7 days a week from 6 a.m.-1 a.m. EST. You can also check out our Community and Support pages at htc.com/us and our pages on Facebook and Twitter.
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I contacted HTC about this issue with my incredible and I basically got the same answer except the guy was more knowledgeable and said that other people were complaining about certain bluetooth issues. I think they know what they did and are waiting to fix it in Froyo to be easy for them. No worries though, should be comin' in a few weeks. I can't freakin' wait. I have soooooooooo much Pokemon and Mario to play.
does anyone know if this works on samsung galaxy s, i dont have my phone yet to test, but as soon as it arrives (sometime next week) i will test this.
All I can say is that my wii controller is working really well on cyanogen on my evolution now!

[Q][Jan 20] Phone to Document Camera & Reverse Tethering

Dear HD2 Gods of XDA,
Hello! For the tl;dr version just check out the bold.
I have two questions/goals in this post. I teach high school science and I was looking for a way to avoid spending >$500 on a document camera for my classroom. I'm on T-Mobile USA and I currently have Android NAND on my HD2.
I'm looking for a way to turn my cell phone's camera into a document camera. Essentially I want to take the real time image (sound is not needed) and feed it to my projector in my classroom. I don't need to actually save the video footage, just have it appear of the screen. Do you know of any apps for Android that can accomplish this? I saw some for WM - but I finally removed WM from my phone...will I have to go back? Thoughts? Options? Opinions?
Secondly, I want to reverse tether option for my phone. My classroom is buried and I often get no signal all day at work. Right now I turn on airplane mode to conserve battery and just disconnect from the world until 3pm. I'd like to be able to atleast plug my phone into a USB port and get some data on the phone. As a teacher I can't really be on FB at work, but still being connected on my HD2 would be nice. Maybe then I'd actually buy a dock for the thing. I saw some older posts about setting up an adhoc network with android but I'm fairly inexperienced - if there's a setting or app now that can do this I think that would be easier. Again, I am sure this is possible, but I just want your opinions about how to BEST accomplish this.
Now...the complicating factors...the mismatching hardware across the board.
My HD2 Running Android
My Laptop: M11xR2 (only has DP, HDMI and USB ports) running Windows 7
Dell Projector: S-Video and VGA ports currently connected to...
Dell POS School Tower: Has the VGA connected to the projector. Runs Win XP and I'd need my tech guys to do any software installations on due to administrator lockdown on the computers at work.
What other details would be helpful? What do you think the best approach is? I'm open to flashing the phone back if it's needed.

Continuum a poor excuse for Desktop to Phone connection, just want mymobiler back...

Windows 6.5 had this function, simply connect via wifi or USB (through activesync) and have 100% control over the phone from your mouse and keyboard. It was great, perfect and enabled no need to ever pickup my phone through my work day.
Continuum blows compared to this.
Do you think we will ever get an ability to RDC to our phone and do this full feature support?
No, SMS through Cortana, via my PC is not what I am talking about, and that sounds ridiculous as well.
You can connect a mouse and keyboard to your phone using USB OTG and Bluetooth. Is that what you're talking about?
Sort of. In the past, and currently on Android or on iphone via jailbreak, you can remotely control your phone through a PC. This gives a person the ability to continue to use the same mouse and keyboard as their desktop, answer calls and reply to texts, etc. I understand Continuum was never intentioned to do this.
http://www.ambassadorbase.at/2014/wp8-1-smartphone-vom-pc-aus-steuern/
This tool do at least what you want via usb. Wifi hopefully follow soon. Continuum is a function which is completely different from your needs. It has great options.
I'm pretty sure that continuum works with wired mouses and keyboards as well as wireless ones. The wired ones require the continuum dock, but it's free right now before sometime in january with a lumia 950 xl.
I use continuum with a 12€ usb c to hdmi adapter and a BT Keyboard with touchpad integrated and it works pretty good. Also the hdmi adapter is very small. This package is 40 euros good invested money.
Wait. With Continuum you are not using a PC at all?
Its to give you basic PC OnTheGo features.
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Wait. With Continuum you are not using a PC at all?
Its to give you basic PC OnTheGo features.
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you can use the xbox one wirelessly if youre a preview program member too, i put you tube vids oh her tv directly from the phone instead of searching for em over the youtube app
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Wait. With Continuum you are not using a PC at all?
Its to give you basic PC OnTheGo features.
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At all
Thresher said:
Windows 6.5 had this function, simply connect via wifi or USB (through activesync) and have 100% control over the phone from your mouse and keyboard. It was great, perfect and enabled no need to ever pickup my phone through my work day.
Continuum blows compared to this.
Do you think we will ever get an ability to RDC to our phone and do this full feature support?
No, SMS through Cortana, via my PC is not what I am talking about, and that sounds ridiculous as well.
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With redstone (Anniverdary Update) you can control your phone from your pc, if you have a touch screen (for example, using a Surface Pro) you can use the touch screen connecting your usb cable.
Sold my dock to cash generator lol, £15, bloody gimmick rubbish.
With Anniversary Update you can use the Connect app thru wireless to connect to your phone ( Actually you your phone to the PC) and control it with the Keyboard and mouse of the PC. If you don't want the continuum feature you just have to go in the display setting/advance and select to mirror screen.
Thresher said:
Windows 6.5 had this function, simply connect via wifi or USB (through activesync) and have 100% control over the phone from your mouse and keyboard. It was great, perfect and enabled no need to ever pickup my phone through my work day.
Continuum blows compared to this.
Do you think we will ever get an ability to RDC to our phone and do this full feature support?
No, SMS through Cortana, via my PC is not what I am talking about, and that sounds ridiculous as well.
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I too miss the functionality offered by MyMobiler. It is available on Android but not W10m.

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