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BIG PROBLEM ! I probably damage my SX56 upon his upgrade

Hey everyone. I have big problem and i need a help or somebody who can help me fix my problem. When i use XDA-developers-SER-v12 to upgrade my SX56 my PC freeze up and upgrade wasn't finish . Now i can see on my display only black and white line. Nothing more or less. PPC is not working with my PC
Anybody can help my or give me any adress i can send PPC to fixed (if it's possible) ? Or i don't know what can i do ........... :roll:
Thank for hepl !
sorry my english :?

You need to use sd card flashing method, your phone will be ok, just look around the forum look for sd card flashing.

BIG PROBLEM ! I probably damage my SX56 upon his upgrade
cruisin-thru said:
You need to use sd card flashing method, your phone will be ok, just look around the forum look for sd card flashing.
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OK but how can i reflash my SX56 with SD cadr if I don't have any back up ?
plus everybody has bootloader 5.17 or older but my is 5.22 :-(

Hello,
you have 2 options both use SD card:
1. get ROM backup from any other working XDA.
2. get SD card reader/writer. change the extention of the ROM file you cooked to .zip and use winzip to extract a file named NK.nbf under \english directory. use the SD writer to copy this file to the SD card.
in both cases, insert the SD card into your XDA and use the bootloader.
good luck ...

similar problem last year
Hiya Mike2001,
I had a similar problem last year. I found that while the ActiveSync monitor shows no connectivity you will still be able to transfer an OS image. One hiccup I did find, and I am running wallaby 5.17 by the way, is a version conflict with the proposed rom and existing header information. This is a windows registry problem on your PC caused by the crash which needs to be deleted prior to attempting the upgrade.
Hope this helps,
Cheers,
David A. Booth

Couldnt upgrad QTEK 1010 using SD card

I tried to upgrad my qtek using the XDA_Tools directly with USB and it failed, what I can see in the screen is only grey lines.
Now, I'm trying the other wy using the SD card. I followed all the steps mentioned in the forum and I used the XDA_Tools to make a ROM image on the SD card.
When i go to the boot loader while the SD card inserted it doesnt prompt me that there is a new ROM image on the SD card.
I tried to use variouse versions of the ROMS's and it still gives the same result.
I have bootloader ver 5.15
SD card 64 MB
SD read/write USB
Can any one please help me to perform this task to have my qtek back.
Thank You

you used nbf or nb1 format ?
did you cook it like that or extracted the nbf from the ROM exe ?

Hello Biso,
I tried first cooked one from yorch nb1, then I tried NBF I already downloaded , both couldnt work.
I doubt that there is a problem in reading from SD card, as I now I try to perfrom back to SD card it tells me " CARD FAILED"
Thank you,

Hey Biso,
Just curious by what you meant 'extract the nbf file from ROM .EXE file'? Is this the proper way to do it?
I cooked various versions of nb1's and nbf's but they won't copy on the SD card. Whenever I try to copy an nb* file on the SD through a USB card writer using the XDA tools, I get a message reading that there is something wrong on the filesize and it cannot proceed with copying the file.
Hey Peter, did you get the nbf file on the SD successfully? Do you need something more than just XDA tools?
My bootloader is also 5.15.

mirage said:
Hey Biso,
Just curious by what you meant 'extract the nbf file from ROM .EXE file'? Is this the proper way to do it?
I cooked various versions of nb1's and nbf's but they won't copy on the SD card. Whenever I try to copy an nb* file on the SD through a USB card writer using the XDA tools, I get a message reading that there is something wrong on the filesize and it cannot proceed with copying the file.
Hey Peter, did you get the nbf file on the SD successfully? Do you need something more than just XDA tools?
My bootloader is also 5.15.
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Yes I could get the file on the SD, you dont need anything more than the SD tools, but my only problem is that when I insert the card and go to the bootloader nothing happens[/quote]

Ok Peter,
It seems that I'm running through the same problem myself. The copying process through the XDA tools seems to be going smoothly but after it is completed I can't see the file on the SD card. Have you checked that the file has been really copied on the SD? I'm working on it now. Let me know if you find something first.

Hello All,
Yes, I always cook the ROM as EXE and if it doesn't work I extract the nbf file from it.
The best way is to format the SD card using the XDA. Then use XDAtools to copy the nbf to the XD card through the USB cradle. When it's done, the SD card should NOT be readable. The XDA might ask you to format this card ... just press NO!. When you go to the bootloader it will be recognized.
I just flashed my XDA with A30.09 few minutes ago ... I used exactly those steps .... Good luck

Thank you Bisso.
I managed to pull it through myself in a slightly different way. I had to copy the nbf file in the program files/XDA tools/binary/english folder. I then run the XDA tools and indicated the source and destination folder manually the source being the nbf file in the above folder.
It worked!!!
For all those of you cooking your ROM from Lumpi Stefan's kitchen beware of the 4.01.00 ROM. It's a T-Mobile's ROM and if you're not happy with it, it won't let you change it through active sync. You'll have to use an SD card to download a new ROM on your Qtek.

Hello Biso,
I am not able to perform ur way of upgrading because my qtek doesnt boot it gives those grey black and white lines, so my only wy is to go through the boot loader, could the version of the rom be the reason that i doesnt want to boot in the boot loader?

Hey Peter,
I had the same problem and I figured out why. Make sure that the command lines on the source field of the OSimage tool window point to the right nbf file which you had extracted from the .EXE file. Click on the 'browse' button next to the 'source' field and pick it up manually. Then proceed with the copy and slide your SD in your Qtek.
Let me know of how you did...

How to fix failure during upgrading ROM

I have a siemens sx56 with AT&T. I was trying to upgrade the ROM version to unlock it. Using XDA developer software and during this process, somehow the connection between the computer and the phone stopped (active Sync). Now the phone is not responding and the screen still displaying the upgrading process. I tried to reconnect but the Active sync does not recognize the devise. I read in this forum that you can solve this problem by using SD card with a good ROM version. Here is what I did. I copied the NK.nbf to the SD card using my computer SD read/write slot. I inserted the SD card in the phone and did the boot loader mode. What I got is "Wallaby boot loader v5.22 GSM OK" that set. Does the phone will automatically ask to press action to start flashing or I have to press a certain key. I tryed all the keys but they give me different tests that they work fine. So far I am not able to find the key that will install the the cooked rom. After that, when I tried to use the SD card in the computer, it did not recognize the card and ask me to format the SD card. I tried the fat and the fat 32 format and download NK.nb1 and/or NK.nbf and again I got the samething. Do I need to down load the ROM file using the XDAtool or just copying the file from the computer to sd directory will do it. I would really appreciate it if someone points out the best way of handling this problem (i.e. get the phone to work with the appropriate ROM and unlocking it) thanks.

Seif said:
I have a siemens sx56 with AT&T. I was trying to upgrade the ROM version to unlock it. Using XDA developer software and during this process, somehow the connection between the computer and the phone stopped (active Sync). Now the phone is not responding and the screen still displaying the upgrading process. I tried to reconnect but the Active sync does not recognize the devise. I read in this forum that you can solve this problem by using SD card with a good ROM version. Here is what I did. I copied the NK.nbf to the SD card using my computer SD read/write slot. I inserted the SD card in the phone and did the boot loader mode. What I got is "Wallaby boot loader v5.22 GSM OK" that set. Does the phone will automatically ask to press action to start flashing or I have to press a certain key. I tryed all the keys but they give me different tests that they work fine. So far I am not able to find the key that will install the the cooked rom. After that, when I tried to use the SD card in the computer, it did not recognize the card and ask me to format the SD card. I tried the fat and the fat 32 format and download NK.nb1 and/or NK.nbf and again I got the samething. Do I need to down load the ROM file using the XDAtool or just copying the file from the computer to sd directory will do it. I would really appreciate it if someone points out the best way of handling this problem (i.e. get the phone to work with the appropriate ROM and unlocking it) thanks.
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Bro, you shouldn't change the Sd fat you erased what's written on it anyway your unit is still on the safe side and you can bring it to normal.
First of all downgrade your bootloader to 5.15 >>>
goto this http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=3274

Hi,
I also have exactly the same problem with my Siemens SX56 as those of Seif's. My Wallaby's boot loader version is 5.22. Ramram said that the first thing to do is to downgrage bootloader. But I couldn't understand how to downgrade the bootloader because I do not have a copy of old bootloader. Should I use 'OSImageTools' or 'XDArit' to write backed up CE image to SD card?
Seif, how did you solve your problem?
Best Regards

rafia said:
Hi,
I also have exactly the same problem with my Siemens SX56 as those of Seif's. My Wallaby's boot loader version is 5.22. Ramram said that the first thing to do is to downgrage bootloader. But I couldn't understand how to downgrade the bootloader because I do not have a copy of old bootloader. Should I use 'OSImageTools' or 'XDArit' to write backed up CE image to SD card?
Seif, how did you solve your problem?
Best Regards
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You need XDArit to write the rom to your SD read the past post on how to copy rom to your SD which is the safest way of installing the rom into the device, by using XDAtools press on FIX BROKEN BOOTLOADER this will downgrade you bootloader to 5.15 don't forget to connect your unit to the cradle when you want to downgrade.
I recommend 1rst of all to make a quick search in threads to be totaly ready for this
this would help :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=6581&highlight=downgrade+bootloader
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=2068&highlight=downgrade+bootloader
Good Luck now.

Update : How to fix failure during upgrading ROM
The problem was solved. Here is what I did. I copied the NK.nbf file to the SD card using the XDAtools. It seems that the XDAtools uses special format for the bootloader that well recognize the ROM file on the SD card. Rafia your bootloader (v5.22) is fine you do not need to downgrade it.
You should follow this procedure:
1. Install ActiveSync that comes with the device.
2. download XDAtools from this site and install it in your computer.
3. Cook the ROM ( or get it by extracting the zip file from the XDA developers special edition ROM.)
4. Use the XDAtools to copy the cooked NK.nbf file from your computer to the directory of the SD card
5. Insert the SD card in the dead device and go to the bootloader mode (soft reset while pressing power key). Make sure it has more than 80% battery before starting.
6. If it is still working and the bootloader ver. is older than 6.22, it will ask you to press action to start flasing.
7. Once finished, remove the SD card and hard reset, wait 60 sec and hard reset again.
Good Luck and special thanks to Biso for his help.

Re: Update : How to fix failure during upgrading ROM
Seif said:
The problem was solved. Here is what I did. I copied the NK.nbf file to the SD card using the XDAtools. It seems that the XDAtools uses special format for the bootloader that well recognize the ROM file on the SD card. Rafia your bootloader (v5.22) is fine you do not need to downgrade it.
You should follow this procedure:
1. Install ActiveSync that comes with the device.
2. download XDAtools from this site and install it in your computer.
3. Cook the ROM ( or get it by extracting the zip file from the XDA developers special edition ROM.)
4. Use the XDAtools to copy the cooked NK.nbf file from your computer to the directory of the SD card
5. Insert the SD card in the dead device and go to the bootloader mode (soft reset while pressing power key). Make sure it has more than 80% battery before starting.
6. If it is still working and the bootloader ver. is older than 6.22, it will ask you to press action to start flasing.
7. Once finished, remove the SD card and hard reset, wait 60 sec and hard reset again.
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Thanks a MILLION for this info. I'm in the same boat, with bootloader 5.22. One question though, when I'm in bootloader mode, which option do I choose from the menu to transfer the ROM to my device from the SD card? Will there be something automatically coming up? Or will I use one of the options listed below:
1. CE ROM TO SD
2. BOOT TO SD
3. CE + BOOT TO SD
4. GSM ROM TO SD
5. CE + GSM TO SD
By the way, so I never do anything to ruin my device again, can someone please explain what each option does?? I really don't have a clue.

as you can read from the menu you type in all these options are to the SD card
and they are to backup i suppose
rom upgrading should start automatic when a sd card with valid rom is in the sdport
and you are in the bootloader
maybe it ask you i forget but it's not something you have to find browsing
the menu's

Rudegar said:
as you can read from the menu you type in all these options are to the SD card
and they are to backup i suppose
rom upgrading should start automatic when a sd card with valid rom is in the sdport
and you are in the bootloader
maybe it ask you i forget but it's not something you have to find browsing
the menu's
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Thanks for answering my question. Now I simply need to find a really good ROM to use to load back onto my device. What I would like to do is end up with Windows Mobile 2003, but the device is locked at the moment.
Can someone recommend a ROM for me to load onto the device so that I can then unlock it and THEN upgrade to 2003? Or is there a 2003 ROM out there that will also unlock? Originally, I ended up in this predicament by upgrading to the 2003 upgrade from Rogers AT&T, but that locked the device on me. I then tried to use a cooked 2003 ROM, and that's where I am now, without a useable device.
Thanks for all replies!

Linger1974 said:
Rudegar said:
as you can read from the menu you type in all these options are to the SD card
and they are to backup i suppose
rom upgrading should start automatic when a sd card with valid rom is in the sdport
and you are in the bootloader
maybe it ask you i forget but it's not something you have to find browsing
the menu's
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Thanks for answering my question. Now I simply need to find a really good ROM to use to load back onto my device. What I would like to do is end up with Windows Mobile 2003, but the device is locked at the moment.
Can someone recommend a ROM for me to load onto the device so that I can then unlock it and THEN upgrade to 2003? Or is there a 2003 ROM out there that will also unlock? Originally, I ended up in this predicament by upgrading to the 2003 upgrade from Rogers AT&T, but that locked the device on me. I then tried to use a cooked 2003 ROM, and that's where I am now, without a useable device.
Thanks for all replies!
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First of all get the "Special Edition Rom" to your device Unlock it then cook any other Rom you prefer
Special Edition Rom at http://cuba.calyx.nl/~jsummers/XDA/XDA-developers-SER-v12.exe
Good luck

First of all get the "Special Edition Rom" to your device Unlock it then cook any other Rom you prefer
Special Edition Rom at http://cuba.calyx.nl/~jsummers/XDA/XDA-developers-SER-v12.exe
Good luck[/quote]
Thanks, Ramram. I'm sure I'll have more success this time, but it's just odd that I went from a 2002 ROM, which was unlocked, to the Rogers 2003 ROM, and the phone was locked after that.
I guess I should stay away from that Rogers ROM then?

Linger1974 said:
First of all get the "Special Edition Rom" to your device Unlock it then cook any other Rom you prefer
Special Edition Rom at http://cuba.calyx.nl/~jsummers/XDA/XDA-developers-SER-v12.exe
Good luck
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Thanks, Ramram. I'm sure I'll have more success this time, but it's just odd that I went from a 2002 ROM, which was unlocked, to the Rogers 2003 ROM, and the phone was locked after that.
I guess I should stay away from that Rogers ROM then?[/quote]
Why to worry about the Rogers Rom you know now a way to unlock your phone.
I assume the Rogers rom is based like the At&t rom which it has the sound clipping bug , so I'd rather say that you could cook a T-mobile rom 4.01.16 WM2003 and try it it does not have the sound clipping bug..

CHECKSUM does not match

Hi there,
I have searched for this problem and found various suggestions involving xdarit etc but none seem to help.
I am getting the above message following a ROM flash, using sd card writen with xdarit. I have tried 3 different roms all producing the same result. Originally tried flashing with a w2003 rom but would be grateful to get anything working!!
The xda will now only show bootloader and some checks.
Wallaby bootloader 5.15
Anyone able to help?
Kind regards

Have you tried another SD-Card? MAybe there is a problem...
Flashed my device about 50 times, and had sometimes (about 2 or 3 times) the same problem.
Reflashing worked then fine...
Stefan

Thanks
I have tried anther sd card with the same result.
FYI I am formating sd cards FAT before writing rom to them
Could I be using the wrong rom?
Kind regards

maybe a corrupt file sometimes files taken from the internet gets damaged on their way to you

Where should I obtain a bog standard rom?

bog ? as in a swamp ?
not sure what a bog rom is but here he have many roms
http://lumpistefan.dyndns.org/

bog standard AKA original basic unaltered rom
Thanks for the link, I have been using these roms but will try try again.
Q Should xda be on mains power when flashing or does it make no difference ?

yes it should have power from the cradle or the power connetor

Thanks
I am downloading another rom will try again.
Kind regards

Hi
I have just downloaded a new rom and written to sd with xdarit, flashed and received following message again.
"CHECKSUM is not correct"
Could this have anything to do with the formatting of the sd card?
Anyone have any more suggestions
Kind regards

should not as far as i know iso tool should give the sdcard it's own format which only the xda can read
and of cause the sd card have to be 64MB or over a 32MB card will not do

Hi
I am using 64Mb SD cards.
Just failed again, here's what I did.
Downloaded ROM, copied it to SD with axdrit, message "xdarit successfully copied image of 65026 blocks.
Inserted card into xda, got :-
Wallaby Bootloader v5.15 GSM OK screen then:-
SD Download
Card Type:
CE OS
Press Action to Download or REC to Exit.
Pressed action and got:-
Please wait for download
PRG 00000000
END 02000000
"Flash Writing"
Followed by :-
Download completed
CheskSum is not correct
COLD BOOT TO RESET
What is going wrong?

is that a problem? i remember getting the checksum is not correct problem as well in the end. but after cold reset, the device worked fine. or so it seems to. should i be worried?

Problems after Flashing - XDA1

Hi!
I flashed my O2 XDA // Wallaby 5.15
to WM2003SE.
The first Boot worked, after that, I wanted to switch the language to german, I had to reboot, and from there on, my problems began....
i read about the possibility to re-flash my os with an sd card.
everytime i plugin that card to my notebook, winxp says, i have to format that card.
after that, i tried to copy the nk.nb1 file to this card, with success...
and then, i plugged in that card back to my xda.... nothing happens...
if i press the "contactlist" button ( in bootloader ), i come to some backup modes, but not to read an new os-image from sd card.....
i'm getting crazy :/
can someone help me plz ???

You have to use xdatools to copy the Image to the sd-Card. It is written in a special format. Copying with the explorer is useless for flashing...
HTH
Stefan

i tried this some times....
but do i have to save "NK.nb1" to sd-card (( h:\nk.nb1 )) or in another format ?? for example sd-card image ( *.img ) or *.nbf .... etc
my last try for this evening....
must go to work in some minutes.. ;(
damn night-shift ^^ ( but good thing: nothing to do... just sit there and wait )

Download http://lumpistefan.dyndns.org/tools/XDATools.zip unzip it and run osimagetool.
Select the nb1 or nbf file in source and select your card reader with inserted SD-Card as Destination. Press Copy and wait until process has finished.
Insert the card into your xda. If there comes a message to format the card press no or do directly a softreset wirh power button to enter bootloader. Than the image should be recognized ....
HTH
Stefan

doesn't work....
what have i done ? *omg*
if i want to write an image to my sd card, my winxp wants me to format it....
if i do this, the writing works fine, but my xda doesnt recognize the new nb1....
i get no connection to my pc with the cradle ( but there is something being found in windows while my xda is in bootloader mode.... )

hi.
i've read something about problems with winXP, if you want to write a new os to sd card... is that true?
btw. it's still not working....
my pc - sd - card - reader/writer cannot write the file in that way my xda could read it as an new os......
holy ****

i solved the problem i think
the xda os image tool doesnt work with notebook internal sd-card-reader/writer.... or winxp is the problem....
now with win2k3 server it works..... *omg* i'm so happy
thx!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

oppaunke said:
the xda os image tool doesnt work with notebook internal sd-card-reader/writer
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I think that is the problem heard a few times, that the internal card reader made some trouble.
Glad to hear, that your device is working again....
Stefan