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Xdarit doesn't write with new .nbf files ?

I use the Xdarit to read & write the Rom image from my MDA.
I managed to read from the SD card and stored on my harddisk.
When I create back with a new rom .nbf files to the SD card and read back again to the harddisk, the SD show the original files size that from my MDA not the one that I'm going to upgrade to ? I rename the files to .nb1 extension.
Do I need to reformat the SD Card ? Do I need a new SD Card for the download ?
Dear XDA developer #..., please advice. I have been posting and yet to get some good advice and replies.
I would appreciate very much of your expertise in this matter.
Thanks again

they should be the same size, nb1, and nb0 files always are fixed size

more answer:
- when using xdarit you never have to format sd cards.
- renaming files will probably confuse XDARit, since this
is how xdarit recognizes what kind of file it has.

What I meant original file sizes.
1. Read from SD Card ( backup from MDA )
bootloader 5-15.nb0 256 K
WindowsCE 5-15.nb1 32,512 K
2. Write to SD Card ( with new ruu extract from O2 ie )
bootloader 5-15.nb0 256 K
WindowsCE NK_Wallaby31413wee_O2_Fulll.nbf 31,745 K
3. Read back the backup step 2.
bootloader 5-15v1.nb0 256 K
WindowsCE 5-15v1.nb1 32,512 K
As you mentioned, the files size are fixed, therefore my files of
the 5-15v1.nb1 should have the content of the NK-Wallaby.....
and I should had leave the file extention as .nbf without rename it to .nb1
Or should i had wite back using the step 1 files name ?
Please advice, many thanks

if you rename an .nbf file to .nb1, you will burn an incorrect os image
to your xda. making it unbootable in OS mode.
( your bootloader will still work )
also, be careful updating your bootloader, if it fails somehow
it is very difficult to restore your xda
if you just want to update your OS, only write the ..nb1 file
or select the .nbf from your distribution, without renaming it.
this http://openwince.sourceforge.net/jtag/iPAQ-3600/ might
give you an impression on what you would have to do, to repair
your xda after you've trashed your bootloader

Bootloader still appear but buttons not working ?
Thanks XDA developers,
My case is that I might accidently overwrite the bootloader.
The bootloader still be able to appear and the GSM OK showed but none of the functions button be able to work.
Do you think there is a way to work around ?
Many thanks for your replies

can u tell about bootloader version?

Bootloader v 5.15 on a T-Mobile MDA with 3.13.12 GER & Radio T310.

i think u can try to make sd card that contain wallaby path (.nb2) using xdarit... logically u can access "action button" to flash the rom.... this is only way to activate "action button"
after insert sd card u can go on bootloader and see wallaby path, press action button, if it work u can flash the rom (may be u should find exact rom that installed before xda died, more work?)
hope u can fix this prob
regards

Hello All,
I can't write new ROM image to SD card with XDArit: I can read image from card, but when I try write new ROM image, I get "Failed to open device \\Physical device12" error message. I try both USB and PCMCIA card readers, but don’t work… What is the problem? (My PC is an Asus P4 notebook with WinXP Pro)
Thx your help & sorry my bad English
Hanzy

try to change device "mass storage device" with driver from manufacture, use one of xdarit executable 180kb or 1.39mb (find out in other thread)

Hello,
I install manufacturer's drivers, but isn't work
I download (found) only 180kb version of XDArit (and source code, but my C++ knowledge... khm...)
Can you write the 1,3mb version's link from me?
Thx

from http://xda-developers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1094&highlight=xdarit
found this link, try it
http://givemebeer.com:8080/warez/XDA/xdarit.exe

Hi,
thx your help...
I read on another thread, XDArit work only with USB 1.1 ports... My laptop have only USB 2.0 ports... :roll: I changed my laptop with one old IBM Thinkpad and XDArit work correctly...
Regadrs & thanks
Hanzy

Not really, coz im using usb 2.0 and its work normally

I only have USB 2.0 ports too and it worked fine.

fastblazer said:
try to change device "mass storage device" with driver from manufacture, use one of xdarit executable 180kb or 1.39mb (find out in other thread)
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Just searching for why I couldn't get XDArit to work with my system - seems the larger (presumably debug) build of XDArit has what's needed to work with the v4 nbf's - thanks for the pointer!

XDA Rom Flash crash, need help to solve, have 1 working XDA!

Hello,
can someone please help me?
Needed to unlock my XDA goes nobody could do it here ;-(
Crashed in the upgrading screen:
it wil take about 5 minutes ....
Has Wallaby Bootloader V5.15
I have already a ROM file NK.nb1 file from the ROMkitchen,
but i don't know how to get it working on my messed up XDA.
Have read a lot in this forum but really don't know much about programming ;-(
is it possible to make a copy from my working XDA (with XDAtools) and then replace the NK.nb1 file or something? and how can i get it into it?
read a lot about Bootloader but sorry don't know how to handle ;-(
If someone could help me -> THANKZ
Greetingz from Holland,
Marco

ok...
if you dont have an SD-CARD reader, get one!
then, from ROM UPDATE FORUM, find and download XDA TOOLS.
RUN xda tools.
it will ask you for source, (most likely C:\program files\RUU\ENGLISH)
and will ask for destination, since xda dont work, use SD READER
Start Copying to card
when done, insert card into xda
reboot via bootloader ( thats when you powerup with on/off button pressed and soft reset)
IT should detect that there is a system on the card, and ask if u want to install it.
press the ACTION button for yes. (thats the big silver button between the fone buttons)
thats realy IT
if you need more help... email me, or better yet add me to MSN messenger, if u have one. i'll walk you thru it.
thanks to a great warranty, i've practiced and tested alot of xda's
but now that i mastered it ( i think) i stuck to one

Thankzzzzzzz
It worked
Was a little late so i didn´t do it wright myself
Copied the file to SD
instead of doing it with XDA tools to SD
Works now fine.
Had some trouble with GSM and T/mobile card, but copied with XDA tools from working XDA to SD and now it works.
Keep this file on an SD card so now i can try to load ROM´s or upgrade to 2003 cause i can always put it back, so no risk!
Thankz Again,
Greetz Marco

I created one nb1 file using Jeff's kitchen, use XDATools write it to a SD Card, slot it into my XDA, press on/off button + soft reset key, bootloader screen (wallaby bootloader v5.17) appear, and say 'GSM OK', if press Action Key now will bring me to "Diagnostics" menu, if press Calendar key bring me to "Utilities" menu, if press Contact key bring me to "Flash Tools" menu, and if press Record Key bring will me to "USB Flash Mode", it didn't auto detect the SD card to allow me to flash my device, may I know where have I done wrong, anybody help? Thanks!

Sounds like the ROM imaged didn't make it to the SD card.
Do this test and report back on your results.
With the SD card still in the slot do a soft reset, if the image is on the card
your XDA should ask if you want to format the card.
HTH

It did ask me whether want to format the SD card.

Ok give it another shot but this time try using XDArit 1.0 to right to SD.
For more info. on XDArit visit: http://www.xda-developers.com/XDArit/
XDArit version 1.0 can be download from the software section at:
http://www.yorch.net
Just in case here is my how to use XDArit to write nk.nb1 or nk.nbf to your SD card (aka the Bootloader Method!)
1. Place XDArit and the nk.nb1 or nk.nbf file in the same folder and start XDArit.
2. Select your SD card (disk drive) from the drop down menu.
3. Select Write to SD
Notice that the Windows CE box is already checked so just click the browse button at the end of that window.
4. Select your (nk.nb1 or nk.nbf) image and then Open
Notice by default XDArit will open looking for a *.nb1 file but if you’re going to use a .nbf file you’ll have to manually change the “Files of Type” to *.nbf
Notice that nk.nbo / nk.nbo was automatically added as your boot-loader and its check box is unchecked so leave it that way and click OK. XDArit should start writing to the card.
When XDArit has finished writing the image put the SD-card into the XDA and hold the power button and soft reset. You’ll be taken to the below screen:
SD DOWNLOAD
Card Type:
CE OS & BOOT
Press action to Download
Or
Press REC to Exit
Press action to download and it will start the download/restore from the SD card.
Follow the on screen instructions once its "Completed" which will consist of a "Soft Boot/Reset".
HTH
&
Good Luck

Hi Qman, I followed exactly your instruction, but still the same wallaby bootloader screen, I can't see any sd download screen???

Sorry to hear that, I'm not to hip on wallaby bootloader v5.17 but
it works just with wallaby bootloader v5.15 works!
HTH

Thanks you for your prompt reply, btw is there anyway to downgrade the bootloader to 5.15?

ycneosg said:
Thanks you for your prompt reply, btw is there anyway to downgrade the bootloader to 5.15?
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many ways to download bootloader to 5.15!
read the old threads you will see how!

Hi Guys,
I need your help .
I've downloaded the 4.00.16 ROM by mistake, it really didn't tell the ROM number, so now I want to revert to a earlier one and I can't.
I've got the following message: "ERROR: GetDeviceData - An established connection was aborted by the software in your host machine.
error getting devicedata" and then "ERROR 011: EXECUTE REMOTE COMMUNICATION PROGRAM ERROR. Cannot execute the remote communication program. Please make sure that the USB/Serial cable is properly connected."
PLEASE HELP ME, I'M REALLY STUCK NOW AND DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO...

use SD to restore your system if you have backup!
if you still have problem to get your phone life back, send to me I will fix it for you!

I forgot to tell you, I haven't got SD :evil:
I've been using .EXE

ritmo-unido said:
I forgot to tell you, I haven't got SD :evil:
I've been using .EXE
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Wow!
I could help you to fix it, if you send it to me!

similar situation but somewhat different.
I cooked a rom in kalex kitchen and wrote it to my sd card with my t-mobile pocket pc phone connected to activesync. I then flashed the phone from the sd card but got a checksum error at the end. I did a hard reset but only got a blank screen. Right now I can access the bootloader but that's it. I don't have a good backup rom because (not thinking) I wrote over it with the rom from kalex kitchen figuring it would become my backup (it must have somehow been corrupt). I tried writing the rom I previously had on my phone to an sd card directly through a card reader on windows 98, windows XP and windows ME all with no success. Thus, I'm dead in the water. I have no clue why I can't flash to the card reader. I went through a ton of posts here but have not found the answer yet to get me back working. Does anyone have any ideas on this? I have no clue why xdatools and xdarit are not working (especially on XP - I know they should not work directly to an sd card on windows 98 but I tried anyhow out of desperation). Please help.

got it working
used xdarit on another pc running windows xp and successfully wrote the rom to the sd card using my card reader. i then flashed my phone using the bootloader method and i'm up and working again!

can't get the xda to load from sd to upgrade to WM2003

hello,
i'm using the xdatools to put the nk file on the SD card, but when i hard reset my xda, i get into bootloader 5.22 mode, it says "gsm ok", and when i press the action button i get into a test menu.
How can i load the nk file from my sd card? please help.
thanks guys.

Did you place the ROM on the SD card by browsing to your device (...) or using the drop down and choosing your SD reader or XDA SD slot?
I had the same problem until I used the drop down... if you browse to your card, XDA tools will not create a bootable SD.

i used directy dropping down the box to SD

When you use the drop down menu on the destination there should be a drive letter next to your card eg: F: 59.60M USB sd reader or similar, choose that and it should work.

do we soft reset or hard reset
well after loading nk.nbf file
do we soft reset or hard reset to get into bootloader.
also,
the drive letter in destination folder will come if u use card reader,
but if in expansion slot than it does not give the drive letter.

Hello
I did hard reset .

I am having this same problem...
I download to the SD card through the cradle, using the phone's expansion slot. I do a SOFT RESET, to get the bootloader, and all I get is a GSM OK message. If I hit the action button, I then get into the test menu.

Hello
Means you have no nb.1 on your SD card .

as per the instructions I've been following that have been listed in detail here on this site as well as the att siemens support forums, you are supposed to copy the nk.nbf file and use that with the OS Image tool...is this incorrect?

OSImage
I just installed new ROM from new ROM Kitchen .
http://lumpistefan.dyndns.org/
1) Get the file on your desktop ( download or ...I do not care)
2) Open OSInage
3) Source :arrow: Brows to your file
4) Destination :arrow: your SD card (where is it :?: -on your phone
or on the SD card reader)
5) Copy the file to SD card (takes 20 seconds)
6) Remove the XDA from the cradle and soft reset with power button held in.
7) When it says press action to download, push the big button between dial and hangup.
8) Hard reset.
9) Injoy the rest of your day

No way getting SD-Card recognized
Hello,
i have the same problem, the ROM (Made with xda-tools or XDArit) on sd-card is not recognized to download when i boot into bootloader!
I found no way to get this running.
Any ideas?

read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=3274
most likely, your wallaby bootloader is not 5.15. Anything above 5.15 won't work. I could downgrade from 5.17 and 5.22, but not from 6.22
still awaiting for some help to down grade 6.22. Nobody seems to care. THis forum has become "too" big that it is not as effective as before ...
People tend to just "shout" and ask before digging deep enough...
too many people posting the same questions into different threads again and again

andhy said:
read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=3274
most likely, your wallaby bootloader is not 5.15. Anything above 5.15 won't work. I could downgrade from 5.17 and 5.22, but not from 6.22
still awaiting for some help to down grade 6.22. Nobody seems to care. THis forum has become "too" big that it is not as effective as before ...
People tend to just "shout" and ask before digging deep enough...
too many people posting the same questions into different threads again and again
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I'm in the same situation - I have v6.22 on T-Mobile 4.01.00ENG and can't do anything, even with an SD card!
Even the BootLoader downgrade tool with XDATools doesn't work.
Any help with this would be appreciated by many other users in the same situation.

The downgrade batch file in XDA-Tools doesn't work for a lot of people (didn't work for me either). However the wallaby patch should work. Otherwise, use XDARit to downgrade the bootloader using the .nb0 file that comes with the downgrade batch in XDA-Tools.
You write the wallaby patch onto the SD card using XDARit, go into the bootloader and enter diagnostics. Then take the SD card out, write bootloader 5.15 onto the card using the bootloader option in XDARit, and place the SD card back into the device. Then from the patched diagnostics screen select Restore SD and it will recognize a bootloader update. I'd recommend saving your original bootloader from the diagnostics first, but that wouldn't work for me for some reason.

i had a 5.17 boot loader that i downgraded to 5.15 via OS image tools, i also downloaded a rom file from the Kitchen & wrote it on SD but i still can't load from SD & i only get the test phase thing

i also downloaded a rom file from the Kitchen & wrote it on SD but i still can't load from SD & i only get the test phase thing
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Try using XDRit instead of XDA-Tools (use the older version of XDRit instead of the newer version). I'm not sure what you mean by "test phase", but maybe your bootloader screwed over during the update? If so you may need to rectify that first, but that's definately beyond me. If you burn the image correctly onto the card it should pick up automatically as soon as you enter the bootloader with 5.15. If you don't burn it correctly then it won't be picked up.
I'm just throwing in my 2c because I've made all this stuff work with a 5.15 downgrade. There's a possibility the thing simply doesn't like your card too, so try a different 64MB SD.

well i do have a 256 mb card & as far as i can tell the downgrade worked fine, now to use the xdarit files to i need to have the SD reader or i can do it the same way i do in XDAtools which is directly into the card through Active Sync

where i am going wrong!!!!!!!!

hi,
well i tried to upgrade my xda1 to windows 2003,
here is the description of the problem i m facing....
i used xda tools(osimage tool) to transfer nk.nbf file to my sd card-> go into bootloader(wallaby bootloader 5.17)
->says gsm ok and starts taking test(like tap test, recording test, sd card test etc) which it should not...
and is not loading the os software. (getting stuck in one of the test like sd card test)
well following things i tried:
1. transfered nk.nbf file, tried both from siemens site as well as from yorche.net site--->both giving same problem.------->using xdatools.
2. tried loading the sd ,tried both destinations -->xda slot and as well as the card reader.
3. using drop down only to choose the destination.
4. also after loading sd the current rom asks to format (which means sd is loaded properly)
5. initially it was not loading the bootloader then i fixed it using xda tools , after that i started getting wallaby bootloader 5.17
6. now after going to bootloader it starts taking various test and shows no sign of loading the new os.
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now i have moved as per the instruction and tried everything mentioned above to install wk3 but all in vain....
dont know where the problem seems to lie....
need suggestions desperately...
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current rom:3.17.03
stack:4.21
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current rom working ok.
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maybe it's a problem with the nbf file content ... did u try burning the nbf file directly to the ROM using the XDAtools ?

You arent hitting any other button when entering bootloader are you? Just press the stylus in reset while holding power, it shouldnt go into test mode unless another button is pushed, maybe you have a button stuck or something.

any more suggestions............
well if burning means choosing source to nk.nbf and destination to drop down
to sd card using xda tools then yes i did burning....
also i m sure no other buttons are pressed or thing like that....
any more suggestions............

I meant by burning to make the destination to be the XDA flash ROM

any more..
ya i tried burning to.,...
same problem.

can your sdcard reader read whats on the sdcard (it's not suppose to be able to read after it's been flashed with the rom)
also are you 100% sure that your nbf file is valid ? maybe it's broken

more suggestions ....
well after loading sd card , i cant browse to read it, moreover xda asks to format, which is the sign that card is loaded ok.
secondly i have tried nk.nbf file from siemens as well as yorche.net,
both should not give same problem, which it is.

this mention the 5.17 bootloader you should read it
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/WallabyBootloader

Rudegar said:
this mention the 5.17 bootloader you should read it
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/WallabyBootloader
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The best way that I've found is to find somebody with a XDA that has the 5.15 bootloader then do a CE+BOOT TO SD then do a SD restore.
Sounds like a good project for some of the ROM Kitchen owners doesn't! :wink:

How to flash ROM from Bootloader?

Hi all,
I have some trouble. I tried to flash new ROM from romkitchen.de, but there was an error on 98%. Now the mda, starts to bootloader (wallaby bootloader v5.15). I don't know what to do now. I found this> http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wallaby_HT_FlashSD , So I cooked rom (NK.nb1) and via osimagetool it wrote to SD (is it same like ctrl c + ctrl v ?). But when mda starts, nothing happens - onlz bootloader starts. What's wrong?
thanks for your answers and sorry for my english

you can check if you did it correct by putting the sd card in the pc
if it's containing a rom the pc cant even read the card
if the card have a rom it should flash automaticly when you enter bootloader

it's incorrect. I don't know how to dwrite rom to sd...What format of ram (.nb1 , .nbf) can be written to sd by osimage?

one choose the sdcard reader as distination
and osi should be able to work with both nb1 and nbf

well...but sd card still can be read in pc. SD i ve god sd reader in my ntb... :/

where did you get the nb1 or nbf ?
only wallaby roms will work

yes, i know it. rom is from romkitchen.de

What for Cardreader are you using? Internal devices often causes problems....
If you have another person that has a wallaby you could backup his rom on the sd-card and install it on your device....
The ROM in nb1 or nbf have to be written via osimagetool. I is written in special format and it is complete different from ctrl + c -> ctrl +v.....
Stefan

i use cardreader in my notebook asus a9n. I'll try it on another pc