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XDA 64MB 900/1800 - WM2003 4.00.11, Radio 4.21

All,
Recently upgrade to WM2003 Using Jeff's Kitchen - As reported by other posts, the Signal display is poor to erratic although actual reception seems good. Has anyone resolved this irritating issue by identifying a newer European RSU version or are we all waiting for the XDA II Radio versions update?. I tried the new WM2003 US versions to no avail as they seem to only poll the 1900 Network and GSM 900/1800 option in the Bootloader only hard resets the device. Hence a downgrade back to the 4.21.
Thanks - please advise
Al

um... i dont see peeps probs with wm2003 on xda1 signal shows low but it still calls out fine the signal is there it just aint showing it i dont know what all the moanin bout its for certainly better then pc2002's signal if that gets none it stays off wm2003 picks it back up again

gazzaman2k said:
um... i dont see peeps probs with wm2003 on xda1 signal shows low but it still calls out fine the signal is there it just aint showing it i dont know what all the moanin bout its for certainly better then pc2002's signal if that gets none it stays off wm2003 picks it back up again
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I'm using ATT's Radiostack and wm2003 with my T-Mobile and having no problems. In fact, I've never had a clearer tone and no problems with reception. Granted the signal indicator is falty....
If I keep T-Mobile's stack however I get a lot of noise and chatter in the background. (USA, Michigan region)

Just upgraded to ATT's Radiostack from T-mobile 6.24, and noticed, that this radiostack do not show me provider name. I see only "home service" in this corner.
Any suggestions ?

K_Dima,
This is the reason why I downgraded to 4.21. The home service does not even have an Icon for GPRS availability - which is a tad annoying. Anyway the reason for the original post is the signal indicator problem with WM2003/RS 4.21 - The Indicator light flashes fine to say there is a signal but alas the signal indicator shows Zero bars.
Thanks
Al

k_dima said:
Just upgraded to ATT's Radiostack from T-mobile 6.24, and noticed, that this radiostack do not show me provider name. I see only "home service" in this corner.
Any suggestions ?
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T-mobile V6.24 is buggy radio stack!
it cannot display non-T-mobile network correctly.
I'm in Canada, every time I search or log on my local GSM network (Microcell-FIDO or Rogers). it tells my I'm on T-mobile network.
it is best to download (v6.18 or 6.08 ) or move to AT&T radio stack (A20) to resolve all problems

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cgigate said:
k_dima said:
Just upgraded to ATT's Radiostack from
T-mobile V6.24 is buggy radio stack!
it cannot display non-T-mobile network correctly.
I'm in Canada, every time I search or log on my local GSM network (Microcell-FIDO or Rogers). it tells my I'm on T-mobile network.
it is best to download (v6.18 or 6.08 ) or move to AT&T radio stack (A20) to resolve all problems
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I replaced my buggy T-mobile 6.24 , that shows my Network Name, to ATT'S
latest Stack, that works fine, but don't show Network Name as was on T-Mobile Stack.
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k_dima said:
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cgigate said:
k_dima said:
Just upgraded to ATT's Radiostack from
T-mobile V6.24 is buggy radio stack!
it cannot display non-T-mobile network correctly.
I'm in Canada, every time I search or log on my local GSM network (Microcell-FIDO or Rogers). it tells my I'm on T-mobile network.
it is best to download (v6.18 or 6.08 ) or move to AT&T radio stack (A20) to resolve all problems
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I replaced my buggy T-mobile 6.24 , that shows my Network Name, to ATT'S
latest Stack, that works fine, but don't show Network Name as was on T-Mobile Stack.
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Go to phone setting, try to manual search network to see if you could find and display correct network. Although it is not matter.
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k_dima said:
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Go to phone setting, try to manual search network to see if you could find and display correct network. Although it is not matter.
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I did so, but still no luck , i see only "home service" at the end of "Network Selection / Register on Network" process, but phone works fine, ATT's stack is more stable than T-Mobile 6.24
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3G Signal

I have been using my new o2 Exec in many different cities in the UK but not once have I been able to use 3G.
1) How would I know I am connected to 3g as I only see the GPRS symbol.
2) Has anyone used this device in 3G?

If the device is connected to a 3G signal, the network name would appear as 3G O2 - UK instead of just O2 - UK.
Also the little "G" would change to a "U"

I have a 3G signal on O2 in London a lot. A very strong signal at Waterloo and I even have one at home in Camberley (Surrey). The Vodafone 3G signal in Camberley/Farnborough is very good.

I get 3G at home (Didcot) and have also elsewhere (eg Reading, Sheffield, various parts of London). Don't get it at my workbase, but that is in a rural Oxfordshire location.
Other 3G service at home are 3 and Orange. No sign of any 3G signals from Vodafone or T-Mobile.

The only time I have even tried, West End of London and I had a U signal with Orange... just no-one else with a Video capable phone to call... :lol:

Well it must mean they have given me a GPRS SIM because at the time I was asked do I want a 3g or GPRS connection - which I found strange.
I have not had 3g reception in Leeds, Oxfordshire.

3G SIM's usually (in my country) have a BIG "3G" on them. Check. Can't believe you;ve never seen a U if you do have a SIM.

3G SIM's usually (in my country) have a BIG "3G" on them. Check. Can't believe you;ve never seen a U in the UK if you do have a SIM. I'm in darkest Africa and have UMTS almost wherever I go... (OK, for busines that is - not much need for it when watching lions)

Sorry if this is stating the obvious, but have you checked the device settings to make sure that it is not locked to GPRS?
Settings, Phone, Band tab.
I leave this set to auto most of the time unless the phone has a borderline 3G signal and keeps switching from 3G to GPRS all the time.
If you find that this is greyed out, hold down the reg 'end call' button until it 'un-grays' its self ;-)
Nigel

My Jamin shows "E" instead of "G" after

after updating my jamin with the latest rom the network icon now shows "E" instead of "G" although I dont have EDGE technology and I use GPRS. I successfully made a GPRS connection and after disconnecting it shows "G" for a while then turns back to "E"!!!! anyone experience the same problem!?

this is not a problem. If your network is able to work with Edge, it will appear "E" and than when you connect it will appera "G" (because your device don´t have EDGE). This icon it represents what your network is able to offer.

the problem is; I KNOW THAT MY PROVIDER DOESNT HAVE EDGE!!!

rasmy said:
the problem is; I KNOW THAT MY PROVIDER DOESNT HAVE EDGE!!!
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who is your provider? as far as i know all providers in the use who is capable of using this phone on thier network is edge capable. outside of the small mom and pops. cingular/tmobile/cellularone are all edge capable.
sorry just read this thread over at hf.

I've had this . It momenterily shows the E and then reverts back to G. I am with Orange UK and I am in a Strong 3G network cell. I know that Orange are suposed to running edge out to areas with no 3G but not sure when.
I can only assume that it is picking up an edge signal from somewhere. To tell you the truth I wish I saw the E all the time . That would at least give me edge speeds .

This is defo a problem (Well doesn't hinder the phone). I was using my Jamin with copilot which was connected the whole time to Copilot Live via a GPRS connection. If I come out of the copilot screen and initiat a call the G symbol changes to an E . It then reverts back to a G when the call finishes.

Maybe your provider is doing some EDGE testing?

Remove Roaming Icon?

is there a registry tweak to remove the roaming icon on my TyTN?
the registry hack from my Wizard does not work on the TyTN...
I am using the TyTN on Cingular in the US (Hawaii), and the roaming icon is constantly on even though I am on my home network. I did not get the roaming icon on my old Wizard, but I get it on the TyTN. Maybe this is because I am using the old AT&T Wireless towers...
any help on how to get rid of the icon? :?:

Hi,
What is the roaming icon, something similar to a radio tower?
I think I newer saw it...

It's your wifi trying to connect...
It disappears when your gprs is searching or online.
When you don't start an internet connection but only activate your wifi then you'll see it appear...

the roaming icon is a solid triangle that appears to the left of the GPRS (or UMTS) icon. page 23 of the manual also describes it as a roaming icon.
i got it once or twice on my qtek 9100 when i actually WAS roaming, but my TyTN displays it ALL the time

ok, I understand.
Did you check your "Phone settings" especially the "Range" tab (I'm not sure of the english word, it's after the newtork tab) ?

SkyyBoy said:
the roaming icon is a solid triangle that appears to the left of the GPRS (or UMTS) icon. page 23 of the manual also describes it as a roaming icon.
i got it once or twice on my qtek 9100 when i actually WAS roaming, but my TyTN displays it ALL the time
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I have the same issue with my TyTN in San Diego

Possible fix
I had the roaming indicator on all the time on my wizard. Was able to turn it off with the following reg change:
HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL
DisableRoamingIndicator
Change value to 1
Try this might work for tytn..... still waiting for mine to arrive

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nakadm said:
I had the roaming indicator on all the time on my wizard. Was able to turn it off with the following reg change:
HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL
DisableRoamingIndicator
Change value to 1
Try this might work for tytn..... still waiting for mine to arrive
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I tried this reg hack as soon as I got my TyTN, but it does not work. I don't know why they changed it...

I don't think just make the roaming indicator disable is the right solution. The device thinks its in roaming mode the because of that all roaming rule apply like Over the Air Sync schedule and so on.
I contacted HTC support but still didn't got reply[/quote]

Any News On This One...?
I'm having the same problem--I'm on Cingular in Seattle. I've tried the registry hack and it doesn't work, the roaming triangle never goes away. I'm assuming this isn't a problem as I'm clearly in my home area, but it would be nice to know what to do to it to make it go away.

T-Mobile (US) vs. Cingular SIM
So I popped a friends T-Mobile (US) SIM into my TyTN and I don't get the roaming triangle like I do with my Cingular 3G SIM. So I'm wondering if the issue with the roaming triangle is with the SIM, or something that can actually be changed in the phone (like the previous reg hack that worked on the Wizard).
I've looked everywhere in the registry, tried changing some of the settings in the "OperatorNames" key and also the stuff in \HKLM\System\State\Phone but no luck yet.
Does anyone know if this behavior is phone/reg based or SIM based?

I wonder if it has to do with Cingular's (in the process of converging) blue and orange towers.

Well i'm in Toronto, and everyone seems to be in different places that this is happening to, so i don't believe its a "carrier" or provider problem. thats my theory... also.. i tried the hack above the LM/drives/Built itn/RIL but cannot see any options in the reg that even suggest hint at disabling the roaming icon.
This sux. I can't believe HTC customer support is as bad as it is.
How can we get to the bottom of this?

I have upgraded to the most recent HTC TyTN ROM (1.35) and the roaming icon is now gone. The new radio ROM (1.18) appears to have fixed this issue.

It is difficult to understand, why it is a “problematic issue". Basically, Roaming triangle appears to facilitate you, that you’re not roaming in your Home PLMN (Own Operator NW). It means you’re visitor in an other GSM Network (VPLMN) and you are registered as Roamer . This is nice to know with Roaming triangle if Roaming charges applied OR NOT.

I get the roaming icon everytime I install a ROM that is a non-Cingular ROM. My phone is an JasJam, when I first turned it on I had a roaming symbol, calls to imate and Cingular were unsuccessful. Installed a newer Cingular ROM (1.34) and the triangle went away, then I installed an HTC ROM (1.35) and symbol was back, then I installed Cingular's 2.06 and it was gone, radio v1.33.
Now I've installed WM6 Vanilla which keeps whatever radio you were using before and the symbol is back.
I'm convinced it has something to do with the OS talking with the SIM so there has to be a regedit somewhere to correct this. I really hate having this thing warn everytime I initiate a OTA Sync. Don't let this issue die its still out there.

soofi1 said:
It is difficult to understand, why it is a “problematic issue".
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Not a problem if it is a true indication. But it is misleading when you are registered on your own network.

Seems I got same problem in Hong Kong.....previouly me using Vodafone 2G service....now changed to Hong Kong 3 2G/2.5G(i-mode) service...I can connect to 3(2G) network but a roaming icon keeps showing all the time.....I am bit nervous the roaming charge now T_T
And I am using Dopod818Pro in Hong Kong

was there ever a resolution for this?

Remove roaming triangle... Solved.
I had the same issue with the roaming triangle... I'm not sure where I found this but it works perfect for me. I use Task Manager (http://www.dotfred.net/TaskMgr.htm) to import it to my registry, then I just restart the phone and the roaming indicator is gone.
Good luck to you and vote Ron Paul!
Mark

3G connection drops when making/receiving a call

I use a Vario II and even if I have full 3G reception, it reverts back to GPRS when in a call which means I can't browse the web while in a call. It then connects back to 3G asap when the call is over. During video calls, 3G works fine and stays connected as it should.
I know it's possible to have both because I have actually made a test call while on 3G and was browsing the web for a few brief moments at the same time before it reverted back to crappy GPRS again.
Is this T-Mob UK taking the piss like they do with they're bloody proxy which compresses all images or is there something I can do here to remedy it.
Thanks.

Thoughts anyone?

My phone does that in my house (memphis, USA) and the problem i have is not being able to hang up. I found a program called showumts that i believe i got from here. All it does it change the registry so that a band tab is available in the phone options. I can manually set GSM or WCDMA and make it stick. This is not exactly like your problem but maybe it could force WCDMA instead of the Auto option built into the phone. (I have 8525 Hermes)

I have upgrade my ROM to the WWE AKU 3.3 TEST version on the upgrading site.
The details are listed hereunderwith my user CP.
This new ROM is great and I have it displaying G, U and H for GRPS, 3G and HSDPA respectivly.
I am sure that an official version will be released in South Africa soon.
In fact I have also changed the U to display 3G.
So far the ROM is very stable, the bluetooth stack greatly improved, and I have no gripes with the Radio ROM 1.35.