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4.00.10 doesn't have "G" indicator for GPRS

[Peter Poelman: subject was "To xda-developers"]
I am trying to figure out why the tmobile 4.00.10 ROM does not include the "G" GPRS notification which is seen in the title bar upon a GPRS link, which signifies being able to log onto the internet, and the "G" in the connectivity screen when you click on the Phone Meter. This "G" is seen in ppc2002, and the 4.00.05 ppc2003 ROM.
Do you know if this a registry key, a file, etc? If so, should I not be able to copy these files or enter the keys manually? I asume Tmobile disabled it for their service or something of the like. You help is great appreciated.

Not sure what happened but UP UP UP
Almost 50 people viewed this so far an no one has clue?

i discussed this in a different thread some weeks ago. i think t-mobile usa mask it, (as well as the roaming indicator), since they use other peoples networks, thus the network information is 'wrong' (to the un-educated user).
annoying really, I agree!
cheers...
..lance

Sorry didn't see it. I thought as much but if they can mask/disable it, couldn't we undo it? Must be a reg key or something. Maybe a patch?

I have tmobile service, using the latest tmobile 4.010.00 ROM with latest Radio stack and I am currently working in Lima Peru. The roaming indicator arrow does work on mine and I must admit that GSM signal is strong wherever I go in this country. I rcvd a phone call from home (Florida) and it was crystal clear.

Do you get any notification that GPRS is available, such as a "G" in the title bar or the phone notification area. Or any notification at all?

I do not get the "G" for gprs.

You don't get the "G". Okay. Do you receive any notification at all that you are in an area where GPRS Internet connection is available?
I am asking for if I can figure our what they are turning on or off, we may be able to make where everyone gets a notification whether they are on Tmobile or ATT. Thanks.

From what I have read on other messsage boards regarding the GPRS singal sign or meter for Tmobile, Tmobile (usa) pretty much feels that if you get a GSM signal you will get a GPRS signal so they have disabled the feature. I ran into this on the Sony T610 cell phone which I have for tmobile. The generic Sony Ericsson fimrware has a GPRS meter while the branded Tmobile firmware disables it.

Hmmm. Not sure how accurate their standpoint is on this. In remote areas you may be able to make a gsm call but I have found gprs unavailable. Oh well, they're the big fish.

v4.00.11: "G" indicator works well.
While this version looks like made by T-Mobile, I don't think they disabe gprs indicator...

I have WM 2003 , ROM version 4.00.11 ENG , cooked in Jeff's kitchen ( I choose 4.00.11 alone, not the T-Mobile one) ,RSU : 4.21.00 and I have the "G"; my network: Orange France , and my XDA is an O2 UK.

What's the best Asian RSU to use?

Not that I'm having any problems with my current Radio Version (RSU 4.21) but is there a better and newer version to be used for "Asia" aside from this?

It is best not to change your Radio stack!

I have an XDAI running on 4.01.16 ENG Rom and 6.25.02 Radio.
So far the sms and call functions work perfectly. But I'm having a hard time on the Globe GPRS and MMS settings. I can seem to connect. Globe already gave me the settings but I doesnt work on me. I don't know if that is because of my radio version.

pjfuerte said:
I have an XDAI running on 4.01.16 ENG Rom and 6.25.02 Radio.
So far the sms and call functions work perfectly. But I'm having a hard time on the Globe GPRS and MMS settings. I can seem to connect. Globe already gave me the settings but I doesnt work on me. I don't know if that is because of my radio version.
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6.25.02 Radio stack is for USA version XDA only (GSM 900/1900), not work 4.xx radio stack XDA (GSM900/1800)

cgigate said:
6.25.02 Radio stack is for USA version XDA only (GSM 900/1900), not work 4.xx radio stack XDA (GSM900/1800)
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cgigate: I do have the 900/1900 XDA. The Philippine has 900/1800 Network, so my device should work on the 900 Network. So my device should work (GPRS and MMS) right?

pjfuerte said:
cgigate said:
6.25.02 Radio stack is for USA version XDA only (GSM 900/1900), not work 4.xx radio stack XDA (GSM900/1800)
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cgigate: I do have the 900/1900 XDA. The Philippine has 900/1800 Network, so my device should work on the 900 Network. So my device should work (GPRS and MMS) right?
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Yes, it should work on GSM 900 band in Philippine.
if you change your 900/1900 XDA (T-mobile USA R:6.xx or Siemens R:Axx) to use GSM 900/1800 radio stack (Version 4.xx), your XDA GSM dead forever!

cgigate: Great. I wonder why my XDA cant connect to GPRS and MMS when my settings are correct.

pjfuerte said:
cgigate: Great. I wonder why my XDA cant connect to GPRS and MMS when my settings are correct.
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if the GPRS setting is correct, you should connect to GPRS.
some service providers cannot provide full data service (HTML browser).
you need contact your service provider to double check the setting.

Yea I'm sure my settings are correct. I got the settings from my service provider. I already checked the settings several times. I always got the following message when I connect to GPRS:
"Cannot connect for an unknown reason. To check your connection settings and change them if needed, tap Settings. If the problem continues, reset your mobile device according to your nanufacturer's documentation and try again."

QTEK 9000 loses signal / searching for network

hi guys, i have a QTEK 9000, and upgraded with the latest qtek rom (UNI_QTEK_13077_176_10900_WWE_Ship.exe), and not installed the extended rom.
i have a problem which i encountered before on other rom versions, and wasn't able to solve: the phone loses the network, and spends long periods searching for it. sometimes it finds it itself, sometimes i go into phone settings to do a manual search for all networks.
i have not installed any cab for network settings, as there isn't one on the roms i used so far, just pop in the sim, and select orange from the networks list.
i'm on ORANGE gprs (not 3g) in israel.
any suggestions?

Hi, I have the same problem, but only when it is going between gsm and 3g or back.... , newer roms is better but problem standing

i think i found a solution:
in phone settings, under "band" i chose "GSM" instead of "Auto", and since then (2 days) i had no signal loss.
of course, it remains to be seen if the problem won't come back once i change my subscription to 3G...
Ariel.

I had the same problem.
I reinstall the Radio 1.06
Now it's working fine.

Ecraseur said:
I had the same problem.
I reinstall the Radio 1.06
Now it's working fine.
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and have you tested 1.09 radio rom... ? I had 1.03 and that have the samo problem too, and if I disable 3G, and select GSM only then it works fine

aaischa said:
and have you tested 1.09 radio rom... ? I had 1.03 and that have the samo problem too, and if I disable 3G, and select GSM only then it works fine
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hey aaischa, do you use a 3G sim, or a 2.5G sim?
Ariel.

evilspice said:
aaischa said:
and have you tested 1.09 radio rom... ? I had 1.03 and that have the samo problem too, and if I disable 3G, and select GSM only then it works fine
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hey aaischa, do you use a 3G sim, or a 2.5G sim?
Ariel.
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I have new problem with the radio 1.09 but not with the radio 1.06
With the radio 1.09, sometime I losed the sound and I have to do a reset.

[3G] Cingular Woes

hey guys im using a jasjar with WM6 (and have tried with others) newest release and even all the WM5 releases. I have my 3G simcard from my shop now. I have configured the phone for GPRS/3G using
Add line: GPRS,3G
wap.cingular
[email protected]
CINGULAR1
Works like a charm .... for GPRS my phone wont display 3G no matter what.
I live in NJ and tried multiple areas such as elizabeth and middlesex. I have also tried manhattan and still no go. I spoke to customer service and had them re provision everything and still NO!
Then some clown says that the only phones that go on the 3G network are firmware locked versions of cingular phones.
now i have 2 universal same issues one is jasjar on is Qtek9000 and i have seen other cingular USA customers on the forums using a universal and on 3g...
whats wrong? its not even letting me see it much less connect to it all i see is "G"

ok after much findings and a lot of searches the jasjar has 2100 while cingular is using 850/1900.
will cingular every use 2100 or is some mod to the radio rom possible? prob not but...

So can anyone advise if its possible to mod the radio rom to make the jasjar support 1900 UTMS?
or is this a hardware limitation?
if same hardware i don't see why it wouldn't be possible
i mean the phone does connect to 1900 for other services in USA why couldn't you hack the radio rom?

Same problem here. I can't understand why there is not a radio hack. What a waste of a good phone.

1wayjonny said:
whats wrong? its not even letting me see it much less connect to it all i see is "G"
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You might already be connected and you don't know. From what I know, the WM6 can't show the 3G icon, it always show G icon even when connected to 3G.
Have you read this thread and tried V2 of the 3G Icon? THREAD: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293375
Please let me know if it works on yours. I don't have 3G SIM, but I do have Cingular. Thanks.

You cannot simply do a "radio hack" as that would be like putting a Dodge engine in a Chevy vehicle its just not that simple. Or a square box in a circular hole.
Also I believe the main reason is due to Cing/T Mo have no ownership in the 2Ghz spectrum (Sprint does though). T Mobile will be using the 1700 area for their 3G service which is brilliant as we will not have to colliding networks around the same specturm. However this begs the question on what will happen with unlocked 3G phones in the future.
pink

Mr Pink57 said:
You cannot simply do a "radio hack" as that would be like putting a Dodge engine in a Chevy vehicle its just not that simple. Or a square box in a circular hole.
Also I believe the main reason is due to Cing/T Mo have no ownership in the 2Ghz spectrum (Sprint does though). T Mobile will be using the 1700 area for their 3G service which is brilliant as we will not have to colliding networks around the same specturm. However this begs the question on what will happen with unlocked 3G phones in the future.
pink
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The question is since the universal has 1900 and 2100 band, is umts being pushed over the 2100 band via the os or radio rom or even a setting in the registry. Or is this a hardware setting only.
Jmallen

1wayjonny said:
hey guys im using a jasjar with WM6 (and have tried with others) newest release and even all the WM5 releases. I have my 3G simcard from my shop now. I have configured the phone for GPRS/3G using
Add line: GPRS,3G
wap.cingular
[email protected]
CINGULAR1
Works like a charm ....
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Just wanted to bump this up, in case anyone is still looking. I just got my Universal, and these settings still work for me. (December 2010)

Thanks for this bump, hope will be useful for someone

Polaris Radio problem solved!!

Hi,
If your polaris having radio problem after flashing with any custom ROM (or even default) and setting the radio to Murata radio, then you can try the following solution.
The problem may include:
- you have strong GSM signal but you cannot make a call ( for example 1 success out of 10 trials)
- you cannot receive any call (dropping call) not on purpose.
- The battery power drains quickly (..few hours till a half day.)
- The GSM signal is not stabile (strong but kept frequently searching again for signal).
I have tried many ways, from flashing to original ROM and set to any Murata radios, but the problem still presists. Then I did the following.
1. Flash the polaris with any original ROM
2. Flash the polaris radio with the latest official radio version ( I just used the one that included with the official rom that I downloaded from http://www.htc.com/www/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=59&cat=2&dl_id=113)
3. When the phone is ready, go to the setting, the phone, and then the service. From there you will have two questions, then select the first question, and choose GSM instead of auto, leave the second question intact i.e. "auto".
4. Your phone will reset its GSM connection, and then just wait. It will display "G" next to the reception bar. Then you can test by making a call or receiving a call.
5. If you still have problem, try to disable the HSPDA or any 3G services.
In my case I have T-mobile, where in Europe it is claimed to work perfectly. Learning from IPhone 3g problem in US, where Apple and T-Mobile tried to blame each other, and looking back to "poor HTC support" I could suspect that HTC has not provided the (old) Polaris with "the right" 3G driver.
I hope it helps. Let me know.

Jagoan said:
Hi,
1. Flash the polaris with any original ROM
2. Flash the polaris radio with the latest official radio version ( I just used the one that included with the official rom that I downloaded from http://www.htc.com/www/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=59&cat=2&dl_id=113)
3. When the phone is ready, go to the setting, the phone, and then the service. From there you will have two questions, then select the first question, and choose GSM instead of auto, leave the second question intact i.e. "auto".
4. Your phone will reset its GSM connection, and then just wait. It will display "G" next to the reception bar. Then you can test by making a call or receiving a call.
5. If you still have problem, try to disable the HSPDA or any 3G services.
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I'm sorry I do not quite understand here ...flash official ROM and official radio? then what? can I then flash any cooked ROM? or ported radio from other device? Thanks.

i have an official rom 1.40.466.1 WWE with Radio rom 1.58.25.21 and also i had this radio and low signal problem since i got the phone, never had a good signal at home.
tried to set the band in phone settings to GSM as you said not AUTO and it worked like a charm. thanks a lot

Hi Deepthroat,
I just did it with the official ROM, (ROM version 3.13.405.0 WWE, Radio version 1.59.42.15). However, some reactions confirm that it also works for any custom ROM and Murata-radio. Honestly, I have not tried to any other combination, just give it a try on your current configuration.
Thus, you can skip step 1 and step 2. Just minor correction on step 3, you go to Settings, choose Phone, and choose tab Band (not service as previously posted), choose "GSM" on the "Select your network type", and leave "Auto" for the "Select your GSM/UMTS band" and finally OK.
In my case, now I still have my polaris battery fairly full even after one day. Before the battery already dropped to 50% or less in after one day.
Please confirm if it works, you will save a lot of desperate polaris owners....
thanks

I can confirm the band tab change: network type from auto to gsm and gsm/umts to umts 900+1200 + gsm 900+1800 as a solution to battery drain and poor signal related problems as written on the first post.
I'm using gullum's latest rom TF2D III with the latest radio rom 1.59.44.02.
My reception is excellent, GPS works good and battery drain is not dreadful.

About the fact that 3G is letting the battery drain very quickly.
This is not a problem, but it's just the way 3G works. 3G just requires more battery power to function.

JeFFJuH said:
About the fact that 3G is letting the battery drain very quickly.
This is not a problem, but it's just the way 3G works. 3G just requires more battery power to function.
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I stand corrected, however I was referring to users who do not take advantage of 3G capabilities.

Jagoan said:
5. If you still have problem, try to disable the HSPDA or any 3G services.
In my case I have T-mobile, where in Europe it is claimed to work perfectly. Learning from IPhone 3g problem in US, where Apple and T-Mobile tried to blame each other, and looking back to "poor HTC support" I could suspect that HTC has not provided the (old) Polaris with "the right" 3G driver.
I hope it helps. Let me know.
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It means that we can't use HTC cruise/polaris for video call ??
I bought the polaris at vietnam and then I used it at Indonesia using Telkomsel as carrier. before I have bad signal also after upgraded the rom to the 6.1 it became good reception for GSM connection but when I need to use the 3G/HSDPA connection there is no signal. (using Band selection )
I already upgraded the RADIO to 1.59.44.02 and the problem still the same..
could anyone help to give info how to activate the 3g connection ?
thx
JEfri

spektrumxdadevelopers said:
It means that we can't use HTC cruise/polaris for video call ??
I bought the polaris at vietnam and then I used it at Indonesia using Telkomsel as carrier. before I have bad signal also after upgraded the rom to the 6.1 it became good reception for GSM connection but when I need to use the 3G/HSDPA connection there is no signal. (using Band selection )
I already upgraded the RADIO to 1.59.44.02 and the problem still the same..
could anyone help to give info how to activate the 3g connection ?
thx
JEfri
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As I understood, Telkomsel Indonesia has a deal with Siemens to implement 3G/W-CDMA(or popular with UMTS) but not yet HSPDA (http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/...n-contract-set-3gwcdma-network-telkomsel.html). The 3G/ HSPDA allows networks based on UMTS to have higher data transfer speeds and capacity, however not all countries have implemented it (this is commonly termed as 3.5G network). So I guess in that case, you should set the band setting tab, Networktype to "GSM" and Select your GSM/UMTS band to the one suitable to your operator.
The problem with current polaris radio is that it is still not efficient to distinguish GSM and W-CDMA networks that leads to many side-problems (stability, quick battery drain, not working camera and etc). Though, I have not tried, some of friends claimed that polaris can support perfectly video call. So you have to work hard to find the right setting for your net. provider.
goodlucks

Jagoan said:
Hi Deepthroat,
Thus, you can skip step 1 and step 2. Just minor correction on step 3, you go to Settings, choose Phone, and choose tab Band (not service as previously posted), choose "GSM" on the "Select your network type", and leave "Auto" for the "Select your GSM/UMTS band" and finally OK.
In my case, now I still have my polaris battery fairly full even after one day. Before the battery already dropped to 50% or less in after one day.
Please confirm if it works, you will save a lot of desperate polaris owners....
thanks
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Oh ok, now I understand the relation between the battery drain and GSM band selection mode. I will try it Thanks for sharing with us.

Jagoan said:
The problem with current polaris radio is that it is still not efficient to distinguish GSM and W-CDMA networks that leads to many side-problems (stability, quick battery drain, not working camera and etc). Though, I have not tried, some of friends claimed that polaris can support perfectly video call. So you have to work hard to find the right setting for your net.
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thanks for quick answer..
Actually I just want to use video call. Oh...very sad to hear that..
so do you think it's the polaris inherent problem that we can't do anything..?
I just try all setting..and I try also other operator like Indosat and proxl and the problem is same.
When I set the Band selection to W-CDMa or auto, sometimes After soft reset, polaris detect the 3G network but in 3 second dismiss and change to GSM network in most of the time just no signal.
everything is ok when I select the GSM only.
so no other option ?
thanks

spektrumxdadevelopers said:
so do you think it's the polaris inherent problem that we can't do anything..?
I just try all setting..and I try also other operator like Indosat and proxl and the problem is same.
When I set the Band selection to W-CDMa or auto, sometimes After soft reset, polaris detect the 3G network but in 3 second dismiss and change to GSM network in most of the time just no signal.
everything is ok when I select the GSM only.
so no other option ?
thanks
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If I were you, I will do the following:
Telkomsel requireshttp://www.telkomsel.com/web/info_3g, in Indonesian)
1. your phone is 3g (fulfilled by polaris)
2. You have registered to 3g service
3. You are in the area where 3g is supported
4. You have sufficient 3g signal.
In addition, Telkomsel uses 3G / UMTS / WCDMA / 2100 MHz. So if you have met the requirements, just set "GSM" and "GSM+UMTS 2100" in your polaris band tab (phone setting) and don't forget to enable the HSPDA in connection tab. If it does not work, reflash your radio rom to latest official release:1.59.42.15.
If it still does not work try to use 3g service in another supported handset (nokia or ericsson), if it works then it is the time to sell your polaris (just kidding!!!).
goodluck!!

spektrumxdadevelopers said:
so do you think it's the polaris inherent problem that we can't do anything..?
I just try all setting..and I try also other operator like Indosat and proxl and the problem is same.
When I set the Band selection to W-CDMa or auto, sometimes After soft reset, polaris detect the 3G network but in 3 second dismiss and change to GSM network in most of the time just no signal.
everything is ok when I select the GSM only.
so no other option ?
thanks
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If I were you, I will do the following:
Telkomsel requireshttp://www.telkomsel.com/web/info_3g, in Indonesian)
1. your phone is 3g (fulfilled by polaris)
2. You have registered to 3g service
3. You are in the area where 3g is supported
4. You have sufficient 3g signal.
In addition, Telkomsel uses 3G / UMTS / WCDMA / 2100 MHz. So if you have met the requirements, just set "GSM" and "GSM+UMTS 2100" in your polaris band tab (phone setting) and don't forget to enable the HSPDA in connection tab. If it does not work, reflash your radio rom to latest official release:1.59.42.15.
If it still does not work try to use 3g service in another supported handset (nokia or ericsson), if it works then it is the time to sell your polaris (just kidding!!!).
goodluck!!

Jagoan said:
if it works then it is the time to sell your polaris (just kidding!!!).
goodluck!!
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I already all of your suggestion before you mention that... my cruise radio rom already upgraded to what you suggested...
oh sad... I should sell it ...

Can any one give me a direct link for that update ,
as when i enter my mobile S/N on download page it says that
Sorry, this software download is not suitable for your device.
plz help me am suffering from that problem

engmazen said:
can any one give me a direct link for that update ,
as when i enter my mobile s/n on download page it says that
sorry, this software download is not suitable for your device.
Plz help me am suffering from that problem
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exactly the same here,, this is so frustrating

Here's what you guys are looking for.
WorldWideEnglish (405) WWE:
http://dl.htc.com/downloadfiles/Rom....0_radio_sign_25.85.30.07_1.59.42.15_Ship.exe
Just tried this method and still am having horrid reception in Canada here under Rogers.