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Campaign: "Get the XDA-developers a bunch of XDA IIs !!

Hey: Let's all tell HTC, the OEMs, the telcos and whoever else that they need to send a few XDA II devices to the XDA-developers, so they can end up on our workbench for the ultimate review, and we can start building some cool stuff for it.
We may not be able to sign NDAs, but we're all really nice, and we'll even pay for postage...

XDA developers!!
abit out of question on here but
YOU BUNCH OF GUYS ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's a great idea
Hello
it's a great idea and i'm ready to send them E-Mail with the request but unfortunately i don't have their contact numbers or E-Mail.
if anymone knows their E-Mail address or contact number please let me know.
thanks and have a great weekend
Othman

Not to p*ss on everyone's fireworks... but I would be surprised if there are no legal restrictions on HTC to simply "give" the XDA Developers the XDAII before the actual carriers get a copy of it.
AS you would probably expect, the carriers, like O2 and Tmobile, would enter into a contract with HTC for them to produce the products over a certain period... I would have guessed that there would be some restrictions about when they can distribute their "own" version of the XDA II.
I would have thought that the better place to try to get a free XDA II is by contacting the corporate Marketing department within O2 and Tmobile... There would likely be one individual who is responsible for coordinating the marketing effort of the XDAII and it would be these people that the XDA Developers would want to have a chat with. By positioning the XDA developers website as "the leading technical authority" and a huge community of over XXXX users, this group wields a fair amount of influcence regarding the purchasing decisions their members make...
... or something like that...
O2's offices in the UK are based in Slough, by the way...
Gene

yeah lets all help XDA-developers.
Hey guys give me the e-mail or address ill send a letter a week.

Update the xda-developers profile page?

After having just sold my XDA-II and upgrading to the XDA Exec, I thought, "I better change my profile on xda-developers", but when looking at the page it merely has the option for owning the XDA or XDA-II. I think its about time for the options to be updated to include the newer range of HTC phones, anybody agree?
Allan

;p
I 2nd that
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same, they don't even have xda iis for me to select

a post here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewforum.php?f=13
a PM to the Admin
or a mail to the Admin
would likely give a better result then a post in a forum for a surden device

lol
8)
They know about it LOL, if you run a portal like this and you don't notice how out of date everything is then there is something very wrong haha.
I do think this is a great portal and an upgrade of forum (to a more modern functional system) and the aquiring of a new domainname should be nr1 in their agenda.
I am sure they think this portal makes a decent profit with all those donations and making investments in updates and changes will cut their income LOL.
But behold if they don't take care someone else could take over like modaco has been doing lately.
So moderators and xda-developers crew stick your heads together WAKE UP and help this GREAT portal into the 21 century!!
If you need help with brainwaving or other internet consulting help don't hesitate to contact me..
[email protected]

As mentioned several times ago, the model selection is/was a special "hack" for the phpBB that only supports 2 types. Therefore there aren't any newer devices availabe since the beginning of the xda-developers.....
But hey, this is a great forum and you can get the most information about our devices here. So why stuck on such little things like model in the profile? :?:
Stefan

I'd agree with LumpiStefan- this forum is the best resource for our devices on the net, and if it means living without a little picture of our devices in our profile I'm not going to lose any sleep over it!

Yes I agree, however since there are more than just 2 models now, and the hack only supports two pics, then I think its better removed altogether. It might be a bit confusing for the newbies ;-)
Allan

I think someone is stealing your programs!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...Track=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:middle:us
I came across this looking for an 8525, it seems that he may be using the FREE programs available on here. I would say whoever created them go after this guy because it's obviously not fair he is using what you created to profit without you getting anything for it. I'm not 100% sure if he is use the programs from here, but I mean how many Sim/CID unlock program are really out there for the 8525?

I just reported the item to ebay, this is JJ's stuff and other members hard work.

Lurch3559 said:
I just reported the item to ebay, this is JJ's stuff and other members hard work.
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maybe a copy of SPL-****er will be worming its way to him... nothing to do with me of course ^_^

You're welcome guys .

Yeah thats a bunch of bull****. i was looking on ebay the other day for a broken wizard and i saw someone selling a program that would load farias wm6 rom onto their phone. I reported that **** right away. There are so many people on here that are so talented and make so much awesome programs and not charge us a dime for it, but then you got dicks like that guy who decides to profit off of other peoples hard work. Death to that ****er.

Really classy how he was going to put commercial video game ROMs onto the phone/memory card too.
Not only was this guy trying to rip off the individuals here at XDA-dev, but also large corporations as well...
S-M-R-T

chenga said:
Really classy how he was going to put commercial video game ROMs onto the phone/memory card too.
Not only was this guy trying to rip off the individuals here at XDA-dev, but also large corporations as well...
S-M-R-T
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I asked him about the programs and whether he developed them or not, here is the response I got:
"no not personally, but do talk to some of the developers and i donate some of my profit to them. any other questions feel free to ask
thanx
nate"
"i do cook my own roms if thats what you are asking, and just recieved an email asking me to remove this service and aparently reported to ebay, so i will not be able to offer this service at this time
sry
nate"
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Good Catch myztikal47.
I guess we can all help the developers here by keeping an eye out for this kind of crap.
I think it wouldn't be a bad Idea to have a sticky on this topic, something with an eye catching title, so more are aware of this issue, so as to be looking out for stinking thieves at places like ebay or craigslist.

I think it was only a question of time. There is no way how to block this. He can use new account, new name or whatever. we have similar problem on our forum, it is strictly technical forum about repairing TV, radio, video, SAT, PC... and we also have big storage with service manuals, service tips and few guys from us steal this infos from us and trying to profit on these! those information have price of gold, but is no help to stop this. So we decide for higher security, for restriction who can download files, and vice-versa etc. but here is not so easy I think, this will kill this forum.

wow he even had a picture of JJ rom on the page thats the lowest of low stealing and turning anround and making a profit off of it... His address is at the bottom of the page if anyone wants to send him a thank you card!

sinmae said:
I think it was only a question of time. There is no way how to block this. He can use new account, new name or whatever. we have similar problem on our forum, it is strictly technical forum about repairing TV, radio, video, SAT, PC... and we also have big storage with service manuals, service tips and few guys from us steal this infos from us and trying to profit on these! those information have price of gold, but is no help to stop this. So we decide for higher security, for restriction who can download files, and vice-versa etc. but here is not so easy I think, this will kill this forum.
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I don't think I take such a gloomy view. I agree it is impossible to stop someone selling a service and it is not in the spirit of this forum to sell either advice or cooked ROMs etc. But to play "devil's advocate" for a minute, what is it we object to? Is it that these folk are making money? Is it the lack of acknowledgement to the people who have put in all the development work? Is it the danger that selling this type of thing brings unwanted attention from M$ and telecom service providers?
I personally don't object to someone selling their time to help someone who lacks knowledge though they should tell the customer that they could learn for free from this site. If someone offered me cash to help them flash a ROM I don't think I'd feel guilty if I accepted money to do it. (Though I never have!).
I feel the main reason to block this kind of activity is that we already have unwanted attention from the likes of M$ without being associated with the sale of a service that relys on what M$ consider to be illegally altered M$ material. The very act of selling the service will bring a much harder approach from M$ IMO. No longer would we we seen as a bunch of keen dedicated geeky amateurs, but people out to profit illegally from M$ original work.
I notice on a brighter note that the two cases of this I am aware of are no longer available through ebay. In one case the individual has withdrawn the service and the other was removed by ebay.
EDIT: One of them is BACK
As a warning to others who might follow - selling a service or ROMs in this very public way is almost certainly illegal, particularly if bundled with a whole lot of other commercial games etc. If you want to take on the M$ legal team then this is a good way to go about it - remember it's not just the developers here that are not giving permission it is M$ original work that is being made available in a "corrupted" form.
Mike

This guy is back! But in a different flavor. I just found this today on eBay:
http://cgi.ebay.ca/CINGULAR-8525-HT...ryZ64355QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
He is WAAAAYYY overcharging on this phone. His justification? 1) the free upgrades found on this site, and 2) a CD of cracked illegal software.
And I fell sorry for this buyers who fell for his iPhone upgrade scam:
http://cgi.ebay.ca/HTC-CINGULAR-812...ryZ64355QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.ca/HTC-CINGULAR-812...ryZ64355QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I can't believe people fell for that!

this isnt that much different from offering a service to fix phones that users have broken. IE i upgraded to windows mobile 6 and now it doesnt turn on.
yes hes selling other peoples work but really the people that pay him arnt paying him for the software they are paying him for the knowledge he has gained from reading
i would offer a repair service for noobs but theres allready people doing it.
its actually no different to taking a black rom and not donating then complaining about it

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And I fell sorry for this buyers who fell for his iPhone upgrade scam:
http://cgi.ebay.ca/HTC-CINGULAR-812...ryZ64355QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.ca/HTC-CINGULAR-812...ryZ64355QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I can't believe people fell for that!
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What is to say those buyers are not M$ trying to get the individuals information and then suing him later? Just a thought...

IMO it's fine for him to sell phone with the software pre-loaded on them already, thats like anyone on here selling their phone with all the hacks already done....but to actually have a service to install the software on the phone and profit from that, and not pay the people who created the software...well thats illegal, someone should just report him to Microsoft, they'll have a field day with him lol.

myztikal47 said:
IMO it's fine for him to sell phone with the software pre-loaded on them already, thats like anyone on here selling their phone with all the hacks already done....but to actually have a service to install the software on the phone and profit from that, and not pay the people who created the software...well thats illegal, someone should just report him to Microsoft, they'll have a field day with him lol.
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I agree with you on that but look at how much higher he is selling the phone because of the free softwares. It's the same as offering the service, basically.

he must need some money to be doing this...this guy must be a crack addict...or meth...yeah probably meth addict, anyways
I'm saddened to see stuff like this go on...coupled with these annoying noobs flooding the forums, m$ being ever so watchful, and the eventuality of newer devices...the great people of XDA might just get turned off from all of this...i know some are already extremely annoyed
...only time will tell

I have a close personal friend that works for Microsoft in their Windows Mobile team and I am going to forward this thread as well as the links to the ebay auctions over to him.

mikechannon said:
I don't think I take such a gloomy view. I agree it is impossible to stop someone selling a service and it is not in the spirit of this forum to sell either advice or cooked ROMs etc. But to play "devil's advocate" for a minute, what is it we object to? Is it that these folk are making money? Is it the lack of acknowledgement to the people who have put in all the development work? Is it the danger that selling this type of thing brings unwanted attention from M$ and telecom service providers?
I personally don't object to someone selling their time to help someone who lacks knowledge though they should tell the customer that they could learn for free from this site. If someone offered me cash to help them flash a ROM I don't think I'd feel guilty if I accepted money to do it. (Though I never have!).
I feel the main reason to block this kind of activity is that we already have unwanted attention from the likes of M$ without being associated with the sale of a service that relys on what M$ consider to be illegally altered M$ material. The very act of selling the service will bring a much harder approach from M$ IMO. No longer would we we seen as a bunch of keen dedicated geeky amateurs, but people out to profit illegally from M$ original work.
I notice on a brighter note that the two cases of this I am aware of are no longer available through ebay. In one case the individual has withdrawn the service and the other was removed by ebay.
EDIT: One of them is BACK
As a warning to others who might follow - selling a service or ROMs in this very public way is almost certainly illegal, particularly if bundled with a whole lot of other commercial games etc. If you want to take on the M$ legal team then this is a good way to go about it - remember it's not just the developers here that are not giving permission it is M$ original work that is being made available in a "corrupted" form.
Mike
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I will point out a couple of things wrong with this Mike... 1. He is using JJ's roms and i highly doubt JJ is getting any kind of kickback. 2. His ebay username nateshuntsvegas is the same as on here. That alone could very well attract some negative attention as if M$ havent given us a hard time the way it is.
the rest of it i agree with

shogunmark said:
I will point out a couple of things wrong with this Mike... 1. He is using JJ's roms and i highly doubt JJ is getting any kind of kickback. 2. His ebay username nateshuntsvegas is the same as on here. That alone could very well attract some negative attention as if M$ havent given us a hard time the way it is.
the rest of it i agree with
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I don't disagree with your comment, but as JJ's work is freely available for folk to download it's impossible to stop anyone selling services to install it. But yes the negative attention of M$ (linked as it is to here) is certainly not what we want. If we are seen by M$ to be set against any moves to sell this kind of material or a service to install it I'm sure this will improve their view of us.
Mike

1st Device bought for Project...more donations needed

Hi all.
Today we have purchased our first device for our developer Olipro...Midget is soon to follow.
The unit cost £425.00 no managers about to give me a discount. But the Ameo is mint )
After sending it insured to Olipro tomorrow morning, it should be with him by this Saturday morning. The balance of the funds then will be shown here, but sent straight to Midgets Paypal account to kickstart the donations for Midget's device...
Please guys & gals we really need your support again. If you can donate anything, it all helps. Don't mean to *****, but if fellow member 'antivirus' hadn't strung us along from the start, I think we may have already had our results.
Instead he has caused us to keep shifting the goal post and pushing progress back..anyway we've moved on now.
The balance of what's left should be about £120.00 or more..but I'll donate again to help get things moving again.
Donate to the special link in Midgets signature. Cheers.
If you can...please donate for Midgets device as with your help we have already got Olipros device.
Thanks again all for your help and support in getting this realised.
Mark

Yes, I can say this whole Antivirus/Reiner debacle has been a major bloody pain in the arse, I would go as far to say there was never any Athenas, the whole thing has been a sham to string us along with alterior motives unknown; possibly to get in touch with members of the community, who knows, either way, the whole thing stunk of bull****, right up to the fact that he claimed to have posted the device off and said he's "scan in" the tracking code... honestly, it's no problem to type the code out.
anyway, there's my two cents, clearly this guy doesn't know the meaning of courtesy or business, so, there we go.

antivirus (german user) was involved here?
if only i would have known....
he told so much ****, postet that much weird stuff on the biggest german ppc forum that every german user could haven warned you. of course that doesn't automatically mean that he's a liar or whatever, but i know this guy just posts fake stuff and is a total pain in the ass. sry to say that, i didn't know he was involved in this project.

zwuncki said:
antivirus (german user) was involved here?
if only i would have known....
he told so much ****, postet that much weird stuff on the biggest german ppc forum that every german user could haven warned you. of course that doesn't automatically mean that he's a liar or whatever, but i know this guy just posts fake stuff and is a total pain in the ass. sry to say that, i didn't know he was involved in this project.
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Haha lol. Thanks for confirming what we have now come to learn. I think we could have already achieved the projects objectives if it were not for him.
Well all's well that ends well. Cheers zwuncki.

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what's this have to do with the xda forum, htc, development & hacking?

I make custom programs, = Development...

DhaMajoR said:
I make custom programs, = Development...
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Good cause I'll donate.

you might want to put some restrictions.. cuz im guessing you wont be able to develop anything anyone thinks up (like a new dialer, new contact manager etc etc all at once (i dont know if yur capable but even if you are.. you wont be doing much else but developing for months haha))
its a very noble cause though! great idea and i love where your heart is

I hope i dont get any Crazy Requests, but i hope to Get some money in, Thanks.

htctoucher said:
you might want to put some restrictions.. cuz im guessing you wont be able to develop anything anyone thinks up (like a new dialer, new contact manager etc etc all at once (i dont know if yur capable but even if you are.. you wont be doing much else but developing for months haha))
its a very noble cause though! great idea and i love where your heart is
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Yea I agree I just donated and I was thinking of m request and it might take a while

Jokesonyou, did you donate on paypal?

DhaMajoR said:
Jokesonyou, did you donate on paypal?
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Yes sir a 20 USD donation

Jokes On You said:
Yes sir a 20 USD donation
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make sure it was sent out to [email protected], because for some reason, i have the same Balance... $130 Usd. Starange.

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galaxys said:
what's this have to do with the xda forum, htc, development & hacking?
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Agree
Same question here
What is going to make if all here is for free?
This forum is not for making money, is for sahreing knowledge, help others and enjoy the FREE ROM´s and apps from the real Devs.
If I´m donating will be to this site!
Welcome to xda-developers.com
This site is about certain PDA-phones, made by a firm called HTC in Taiwan. Their makers named them 'Wallaby', 'Himalaya', 'Blue Angel', 'Wizard' and 'TyTN', but almost nobody knows them by those names. The mobile provider O2 sells them under the brand-name 'XDA', and that's what we had in our hands first. They're also known as Qtek, MDA, SX-56, Hermes and many, many other names.
Since we develop software for it, we need information, and nobody seemed eager or ready to give us what we needed. So we 'reverse-engineered' the devices, found a lot of information, and shared it with the world. But as our site grew we realised that lots of ordinary users were also suffering from a lack of support. They started using the xda-developers forum to communicate and before long the forum was as much a user forum as it was a developer forum.
We hope that you will enjoy this site and find it as useful as we do. We encourage you to donate or otherwise support this site. Of course absolutely all proceeds from donations will benefit this community.

orb3000 said:
Agree
Same question here
What is going to make if all here is for free?
This forum is not for making money, is for sahreing knowledge, help others and enjoy the FREE ROM´s and apps from the real Devs.
If I´m donating will be to this site!
Welcome to xda-developers.com
This site is about certain PDA-phones, made by a firm called HTC in Taiwan. Their makers named them 'Wallaby', 'Himalaya', 'Blue Angel', 'Wizard' and 'TyTN', but almost nobody knows them by those names. The mobile provider O2 sells them under the brand-name 'XDA', and that's what we had in our hands first. They're also known as Qtek, MDA, SX-56, Hermes and many, many other names.
Since we develop software for it, we need information, and nobody seemed eager or ready to give us what we needed. So we 'reverse-engineered' the devices, found a lot of information, and shared it with the world. But as our site grew we realised that lots of ordinary users were also suffering from a lack of support. They started using the xda-developers forum to communicate and before long the forum was as much a user forum as it was a developer forum.
We hope that you will enjoy this site and find it as useful as we do. We encourage you to donate or otherwise support this site. Of course absolutely all proceeds from donations will benefit this community.
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Okay sorry

DhaMajoR said:
Wana Be MOD
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Show more respect or you´ll get banned newbie
Learn and respect the rules

orb3000 said:
Wana be somebody
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Okay orb300

orb3000 said:
Show more respect or you´ll get banned newbie
Learn the rules and then you can be somebody
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Thats mean.

MOD BREAK
please show respect for each other in this forum.....be nice!
thank you and have a nice weekend.
Liam

Who says that you'll really give the money to WorldVision? And who says that you'll actually develop the application? ...

DHA Major,
This seems like a very good idea, ie people donate to a worthy cause and they get a development back via you. You have several problems to overcome though to make this happen:
1) Credibility - people need to be convinved of your technical abilities and your ability to deliver.
2) Honest - you already have someone questioning whether the money will go to the cause. Not sure how you address this.
3) Apathy - Sadly a lot of people enjoy having things for free while not making any form of financial contribution. If you look through some of the threads on here from a while back you will see that some even demand things get developed and delivered even though developers are given their time, effort and technical abilities for free (search through some of the Schaps threads on XDA to see what I mean).
It might be a good start for you to develop and release an application for us to see what you can do (sorry, I have not been on here for a while so if you have already developed and released an app on here without me seeing it then that's great). Once that is in place then you need to find some way of ensuring that people donate and that there is evidence that the donations are heading off to the charity as expected.
I applaud your idea; just not sure how you get around some of the problems highlighted above.
Good luck.
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