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O2 and XDA-developers sign deal

How come I only get these ideas two days too late...
Press release
In an unprecendented and bold move, O2 has licensed the process of providing upgrades for their XDA PDA-phones to 'XDA-developers', an independent group of developers working on the XDA. Starting today the XDA developer support link on Source O2 will point to the XDA-developer fora.
"When we started looking for a partner to outsource this to, we quickly discovered most of the real tech-support was already being handled by XDA-developers, so they were the logical choice, really. And our own support for developers just could not match theirs. The XDA-developers have also been instrumental in achieving cultural change here at O2. For instance: they've helped us realise we would be better off in the long run if we upgrade all remaining 32 MB units to 64MB and if we stopped selling SIMlocked units.", says H. Uphisas, product manager for XDA at O2 Europe.
"It's challenging to now have access to all the knowledge, and to open it up to the world. Having full hardware documentation, and being able to create our own ROM upgrades has long been a goal here at XDA-developers. This partnership will allow O2 and the XDA customers to fully benefit from our knowledge of the device and of what its users and software developers want. O2 has done a great job of supplying upgrades and support in the past, but we feel confident that we can make further improvements.", says Peter Poelman, spokesperson for the XDA-developers.
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But really: why couldn't some provider just "open it all up"? They'd sell more units and more call-minutes, and they'd have less work. Right?

April fools, right?

you can't be serious said:
April fools, right?
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Ofcourse. I would have taken more trouble to launch it as a 'real' press release if I had thought about it two days ago...

I learn an new english expression today ...
april fools, poisson d'avril in french
Best regards and thank for your great site
ps: i can help you to weld memory upgrade to 64 Mo in france near marseille ...

been using xda since last year of nov. of last year... and ever since i never changed my unit... its cool and its sleek......I love this phone!.....
More power to all of the developers! :lol:

I agree what is happening in XDA-developers pages and forums is more important and even more proffesional than any company. My respect to every member of this family as you have givin us the chance to improve and fix the mistakes by the people who call themself PROs ...
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Forgive me for being naive, but I wonder if the o2 Developers WOULD actually look favourably on some tie up with the guys and gals here? (if it hasn't been tried before).
I'm sure o2 suits would have a fit, but there could be room for 'informal' dialogue.
Please let me know if I'm away in La-La land...

jann said:
Forgive me for being naive, but I wonder if the o2 Developers WOULD actually look favourably on some tie up with the guys and gals here? (if it hasn't been tried before).
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I thought you people would never ask...
I don't know what your role in O2 is, but I'll assume you're serious about this. By all means, let's have some serious discussion between O2 and some senior XDA-developers. At the very least, I can see many ways of working together which would help optimise the flow of information between O2 and the users.
About the suits: I really think we can come up with ways in which any proposed cooperation would actually end up making more money for O2 and provide better support for the users.
Please provide me (either personally through E-mail, or publically here) with what you feel would need to happen next. Maybe we should create a new forum, in which we provide access to womever for O2 would need to be at the 'table', plus some reasonable XDA-developer delegation.
I was personally thinking of about 5-10 people that all regularly post here and that seem to have an opinion or interest in making stuff better. Shall I propose a list for this delegation in the next few days ?

AAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH! - (sound of man rushing to stem confusion....)
>>I don't know what your role in O2<< - No, no - I'm nothing to do with o2 apart from donating them hard earned cash every so often.
I'm the kind of guy who specialises in 'sensible compromise' through my job, so was applying that logic to here as well.
But seriously folks... as you lot here obviously have a lot to offer the disgreacefully under resourced o2 dev dept, have you actually tried picking up the phone / sending a discreet email offering some tie-up? Not too sure what the financials would be, but a free XDA every other month must be a possible.

Lol, they should do this now .
Good old times...

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what's this have to do with the xda forum, htc, development & hacking?

I make custom programs, = Development...

DhaMajoR said:
I make custom programs, = Development...
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Good cause I'll donate.

you might want to put some restrictions.. cuz im guessing you wont be able to develop anything anyone thinks up (like a new dialer, new contact manager etc etc all at once (i dont know if yur capable but even if you are.. you wont be doing much else but developing for months haha))
its a very noble cause though! great idea and i love where your heart is

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htctoucher said:
you might want to put some restrictions.. cuz im guessing you wont be able to develop anything anyone thinks up (like a new dialer, new contact manager etc etc all at once (i dont know if yur capable but even if you are.. you wont be doing much else but developing for months haha))
its a very noble cause though! great idea and i love where your heart is
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Yea I agree I just donated and I was thinking of m request and it might take a while

Jokesonyou, did you donate on paypal?

DhaMajoR said:
Jokesonyou, did you donate on paypal?
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Yes sir a 20 USD donation

Jokes On You said:
Yes sir a 20 USD donation
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make sure it was sent out to [email protected], because for some reason, i have the same Balance... $130 Usd. Starange.

EDIT: Thank you Octavia Lopez, for your Donation.

galaxys said:
what's this have to do with the xda forum, htc, development & hacking?
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Agree
Same question here
What is going to make if all here is for free?
This forum is not for making money, is for sahreing knowledge, help others and enjoy the FREE ROM´s and apps from the real Devs.
If I´m donating will be to this site!
Welcome to xda-developers.com
This site is about certain PDA-phones, made by a firm called HTC in Taiwan. Their makers named them 'Wallaby', 'Himalaya', 'Blue Angel', 'Wizard' and 'TyTN', but almost nobody knows them by those names. The mobile provider O2 sells them under the brand-name 'XDA', and that's what we had in our hands first. They're also known as Qtek, MDA, SX-56, Hermes and many, many other names.
Since we develop software for it, we need information, and nobody seemed eager or ready to give us what we needed. So we 'reverse-engineered' the devices, found a lot of information, and shared it with the world. But as our site grew we realised that lots of ordinary users were also suffering from a lack of support. They started using the xda-developers forum to communicate and before long the forum was as much a user forum as it was a developer forum.
We hope that you will enjoy this site and find it as useful as we do. We encourage you to donate or otherwise support this site. Of course absolutely all proceeds from donations will benefit this community.

orb3000 said:
Agree
Same question here
What is going to make if all here is for free?
This forum is not for making money, is for sahreing knowledge, help others and enjoy the FREE ROM´s and apps from the real Devs.
If I´m donating will be to this site!
Welcome to xda-developers.com
This site is about certain PDA-phones, made by a firm called HTC in Taiwan. Their makers named them 'Wallaby', 'Himalaya', 'Blue Angel', 'Wizard' and 'TyTN', but almost nobody knows them by those names. The mobile provider O2 sells them under the brand-name 'XDA', and that's what we had in our hands first. They're also known as Qtek, MDA, SX-56, Hermes and many, many other names.
Since we develop software for it, we need information, and nobody seemed eager or ready to give us what we needed. So we 'reverse-engineered' the devices, found a lot of information, and shared it with the world. But as our site grew we realised that lots of ordinary users were also suffering from a lack of support. They started using the xda-developers forum to communicate and before long the forum was as much a user forum as it was a developer forum.
We hope that you will enjoy this site and find it as useful as we do. We encourage you to donate or otherwise support this site. Of course absolutely all proceeds from donations will benefit this community.
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Okay sorry

DhaMajoR said:
Wana Be MOD
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Show more respect or you´ll get banned newbie
Learn and respect the rules

orb3000 said:
Wana be somebody
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Okay orb300

orb3000 said:
Show more respect or you´ll get banned newbie
Learn the rules and then you can be somebody
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Thats mean.

MOD BREAK
please show respect for each other in this forum.....be nice!
thank you and have a nice weekend.
Liam

Who says that you'll really give the money to WorldVision? And who says that you'll actually develop the application? ...

DHA Major,
This seems like a very good idea, ie people donate to a worthy cause and they get a development back via you. You have several problems to overcome though to make this happen:
1) Credibility - people need to be convinved of your technical abilities and your ability to deliver.
2) Honest - you already have someone questioning whether the money will go to the cause. Not sure how you address this.
3) Apathy - Sadly a lot of people enjoy having things for free while not making any form of financial contribution. If you look through some of the threads on here from a while back you will see that some even demand things get developed and delivered even though developers are given their time, effort and technical abilities for free (search through some of the Schaps threads on XDA to see what I mean).
It might be a good start for you to develop and release an application for us to see what you can do (sorry, I have not been on here for a while so if you have already developed and released an app on here without me seeing it then that's great). Once that is in place then you need to find some way of ensuring that people donate and that there is evidence that the donations are heading off to the charity as expected.
I applaud your idea; just not sure how you get around some of the problems highlighted above.
Good luck.
WB

Samsung Staff Engineer contact

Found this in another posting so i thought should put it up incase someone wants to contact samsung.
[email protected] - Madan Ankapura - Samsung Staff Engineer. Goto person for all technical issues related to Android within Samsung and interface for Google in the role of Technical Account Manager-Android.
[email protected] - Yanjun Huang - Smart Phone Product Strategy.

shivankit said:
Found this in another posting so i thought should put it up incase someone wants to contact samsung.
[email protected] - Madan Ankapura - Samsung Staff Engineer. Goto person for all technical issues related to Android within Samsung and interface for Google in the role of Technical Account Manager-Android.
[email protected] - Yanjun Huang - Smart Phone Product Strategy.
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Nice information.
Rather than flooding their mail boxes, why don't we write a formal open-letter in the name of XDA developers Community exposing our findings and suggestions?
Any volunteer? (my english is not so good)
Please note that I'd not approve a letter that is based on insults or describes this product as "rubbish"... I'd prefer they understand that we may have a win-win cooperation in order to make this (and others) product better. So if we're going to expose some problems we'll need to document every problem in a technical way.

Already a thread about this in General:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=791130

I have my doubts if one letter on behalf of xda will do the job and make them sit up and notice, maybe a Zerg rush would work better???

Why not try both

Poor guys...

Well maybe poor guys... nonetheless their emails were easily found and in the public domain, and they are listed on Linkedin, so fair game in my opinion
The emails were in that Samsung "do not download internal testing" app on Market, unpacked it and looked through the code - THATS PUBLIC DOMAIN! lol...

the professional way to handle this is via Facebook, as already mentioned on the other topic
it works, and we already got results
so lets do it again

+1 to Facebook.. its kinda public so theres bigger chance ull get some results..! instead of personal emails..

shivankit said:
I have my doubts if one letter on behalf of xda will do the job and make them sit up and notice, maybe a Zerg rush would work better???
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LOL!
+1 for Zerg rush.

What would be the effect of flooding?
They are pissed, delete the mails and remove the e-mail adresses.
Do you want this?
Much better effect can be obtained by an open letter, at best in cooperation with other well known (regional) forums and a message to some news sites.

use this instead
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=792205

Samga said:
What would be the effect of flooding?
They are pissed, delete the mails and remove the e-mail adresses.
Do you want this?
Much better effect can be obtained by an open letter, at best in cooperation with other well known (regional) forums and a message to some news sites.
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Well, I disagree. POLITE emails directly to people involved is better than indirectly through FB imho. But why not use both methods as someone suggested?

I agree. What we need is a well written coordinated letter to the samsung staff, which would represent members of this and/or other forums and websites and thus, many galaxy s customers....

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Anyway, he asked me if i could do one of his questionnaires, so i did and i thought i'd put it on here so he could get more responses. Now it was originally on paper so i've just copied it into this website. There might be a few errors as i haven't fixed it all.
I'd be very grateful if you guys could fill one out for him, shouldn't take longer than a couple of minutes.
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Link updated,
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