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Hi all,
Is there any chance to run Sailfish OS on a non-Jolla phone? I would prefer a bigger screen and I'd prefer to not wait for their phone.
Assuming that the drivers from Android are compiled for the same Linux kernel version as I want to run in Sailfish, they should be loadable.
So then it's just a question of whether Sailfish is written to use the same devices (in /dev) in the same ways.
Anybody know?
Cheers.
tabstop said:
Hi all,
Is there any chance to run Sailfish OS on a non-Jolla phone? I would prefer a bigger screen and I'd prefer to not wait for their phone.
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First of all, Sailfish is not yet released to public, and most propably wont be before Jolla phone hits markets. So you can't get it before
tabstop said:
Hi all,
Assuming that the drivers from Android are compiled for the same Linux kernel version as I want to run in Sailfish, they should be loadable.
So then it's just a question of whether Sailfish is written to use the same devices (in /dev) in the same ways.
Anybody know?
Cheers.
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Nobody knows yet, because nobody hasn't been able to have a look at it, since it hasn't been released. But I doubt that the kernel would match, since it doesn't even match on different Android phones. There are always some minor changes.
tabstop said:
Hi all,
Is there any chance to run Sailfish OS on a non-Jolla phone? I would prefer a bigger screen and I'd prefer to not wait for their phone.
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Yes i think it will be possible run Sailfish on non-Jolla phone, anyway you should wait because there is no image for arm cpu in public.
tabstop said:
Assuming that the drivers from Android are compiled for the same Linux kernel version as I want to run in Sailfish, they should be loadable.
So then it's just a question of whether Sailfish is written to use the same devices (in /dev) in the same ways.
Anybody know?
Cheers.
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in android devices in /dev very often is used from binary blobs.
and this blob compiled againts another libc called bionic and it is not compatible with glibc, but Jolla phone will use android drivers via special library.
Sailfish OS for Motorola XT910 ( Droid RAZR )
tabstop said:
Hi all,
Is there any chance to run Sailfish OS on a non-Jolla phone? I would prefer a bigger screen and I'd prefer to not wait for their phone.
Assuming that the drivers from Android are compiled for the same Linux kernel version as I want to run in Sailfish, they should be loadable.
So then it's just a question of whether Sailfish is written to use the same devices (in /dev) in the same ways.
Anybody know?
Cheers.
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Well, the Sailfish OS runs on linux kernel thats for sure and soon it will have the capability to run almost all of the android apks, which means it can not be totally different form android form 'under-the-hood' so there is always some room to try it on your android devices.
I haven't really tried to explore Sailfish OS much, but if u do, plz tell me and I would like to do it on my phone (Moto xt910).
If you come across any guide for installing Sailfish OS on non-jolla phones, plz post the links here.
sidbhatt11 said:
Well, the Sailfish OS runs on linux kernel thats for sure and soon it will have the capability to run almost all of the android apks, which means it can not be totally different form android form 'under-the-hood' so there is always some room to try it on your android devices.
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running apk doesn`t mean anything, i can run apk on my windows 7.
internaly it is GNU Linux, not android.
sidbhatt11 said:
I haven't really tried to explore Sailfish OS much, but if u do, plz tell me and I would like to do it on my phone (Moto xt910).
If you come across any guide for installing Sailfish OS on non-jolla phones, plz post the links here.
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you should understand that nobody care about your motorola or what ever device you own. 3.5 developers that can build nemo mobile image will not do it just because of your request.
If I remember right the first demo shown of it was on a nexus phone. so of course it will run on android phone.
tsaxda said:
If I remember right the first demo shown of it was on a nexus phone. so of course it will run on android phone.
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can you give URL?
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can you give URL?
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I just remember seeing a video demo of it on youtube and the guy giving the demo said it was running on a galaxy nexus. I don't have the link but you could find it easily on youtube.
It's an open source,isn't it?
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It's an open source,isn't it?
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Silica components and that fancy home screen are not open source
I must admit I really like this OS.. even if it is similar to blackberry 10 for some aspects.. if this os will be avaiable for rooted android phones, i will certainly install it on mine!
I'd install it fast if my phone could get this (LG L5), but I think it's too weak on it. Maybe Sony Ericsson xperia neo would take this.
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N9 arm port is here who starts porting?
EnErGy[CSDX] said:
Yes i think it will be possible run Sailfish on non-Jolla phone, anyway you should wait because there is no image for arm cpu in public.
in android devices in /dev very often is used from binary blobs.
and this blob compiled againts another libc called bionic and it is not compatible with glibc, but Jolla phone will use android drivers via special library.
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since the N9 port of Sailfish OS is now available:
h**p://jollausers.com/2013/12/the-comprehensive-guide-to-port-sailfish-to-n9/
and the arm chipset in the N9 (OMAP3630) is equal to many Android devices like the Defy+ h**p://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OMAP it would be nice to hear that someone begins with the porting to other Android devices. Hopefully also for my Droid 4 (OMAP4430).
https://github.com/KonstaT/sailfishos_kernel_jolla_msm8930
thx to Konsta @ talk.maemo.org
cvp said:
https://github.com/KonstaT/sailfishos_kernel_jolla_msm8930
thx to Konsta @ talk.maemo.org
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Would be great if it could run on Galaxy note 2 or 3.
So I decide to step up and buy the Zenfone 2 551. WW MODEL Should have it at my door step on Wednesday. Then fun begins. Going to build a Google edition rom for you all. Be less lag in the phone. With the most power out of the kernel. It will be designed. Around all 3 versions off the 550/551. Time to share some love. Please don't ask for a time stamp. As I am working around my twin boys schedule. After all that's done. I will build a killer theme for this also. To give more colors to work with. TWRP will be tweaked to run a lot smoother for us also. I already sent some emails out to people. To help out on twrp. As that is my weak point. Hope you guys are ready..
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Hell yeah...... \m/
bring it on!!!!
Oooooh exciting
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I like Google edition ROM.
But every custom ROM comes without gapps.
Thanks in advance.
It will be fully 64-bit and have the latest PowerVR drivers? Cool
Looking forward to it. I also love GPE ROMs.
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The rom is already built. Just waiting on the phone to get here. It will have all the Google apk's in it. But make it clear to you all. I will not release it until its at least 95-100% bug free. Because I don't want anyone crying.
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64bit x86 Android is different from 32bit version only by kernel (and some kernel related drivers). All libraries are 32bit. Stock ZF2 Android is exactly the same as so-called 64bit AOSP in terms of bitness.
This is standard for x86 Android builds.
Both 64bit and 32bit binaries are supported seamlessly even in stock Android - thanks to x86 instructions set. So, it's up to specific application developer choice how many bits to use in native code.
Thanks so much in advance
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64bit x86 Android is different from 32bit version only by kernel (and some kernel related drivers). All libraries are 32bit. Stock ZF2 Android is exactly the same as so-called 64bit AOSP in terms of bitness.
This is standard for x86 Android builds.
Both 64bit and 32bit binaries are supported seamlessly even in stock Android - thanks to x86 instructions set. So, it's up to specific application developer choice how many bits to use in native code.
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I am little bit confused, do you mean x64bit os in Stock? X64bit apps support in Stock u mean?
If yes, then I don't think so..
Even Asus rep, support, care said what we have in Stock is just x64bit kernel with x32bit os, promised that 5.1 will be full x64bit os for zenfone 2.. And x64bit app of AnTuTu didn't work in zenfone 2 but works with ARM x64bit os
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The rom is already built. Just waiting on the phone to get here. It will have all the Google apk's in it. But make it clear to you all. I will not release it until its at least 95-100% bug free. Because I don't want anyone crying.
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Mate, you'll ALWAYS get people crying... It is an unfortunate thing but there's alweays something someone doesn't understand, do or just plain f!cks up... And you as the dev will always be ground zero for the muck they throw...
So saying, I hope I haven't scred you off because we really need some devs for this puppy...
Has some pretty decent hardware and the software is sorta catching up but it would be nice for another dev's rom to be on the menu.
Cheers mate...
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So I decide to step up and buy the Zenfone 2 551. WW MODEL Should have it at my door step on Wednesday. Then fun begins. Going to build a Google edition rom for you all. Be less lag in the phone. With the most power out of the kernel. It will be designed. Around all 3 versions off the 550/551. Time to share some love. Please don't ask for a time stamp. As I am working around my twin boys schedule. After all that's done. I will build a killer theme for this also. To give more colors to work with. TWRP will be tweaked to run a lot smoother for us also. I already sent some emails out to people. To help out on twrp. As that is my weak point. Hope you guys are ready..
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edit..
Troll? Or this is real?
https://www.reddit.com/r/galaxynote4/comments/321a8e/turns_out_that_blazinandroid1_was_a_troll/
meciu99 said:
edit..
Troll? Or this is real?
https://www.reddit.com/r/galaxynote4/comments/321a8e/turns_out_that_blazinandroid1_was_a_troll/
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Bro. That's a whole different person.
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A different person that happens to share the exact same username, state promises despite providing vague technical info, and also happens to have "twin boys".
Yeah, quite the coincidence.
What exactly is a Google Edition rom? Never heard that before.
Very excited to hear this....in for sure.
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A different person that happens to share the exact same username, state promises despite providing vague technical info, and also happens to have "twin boys".
Yeah, quite the coincidence.
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Exactly, I'll believe it when I see it. No offense to the OP, but how many times on XDA do we see these things?
If he puts a GPE Rom that actually boots up for this phone, I'll eat my words..
ansebovi said:
I am little bit confused, do you mean x64bit os in Stock? X64bit apps support in Stock u mean?
If yes, then I don't think so..
Even Asus rep, support, care said what we have in Stock is just x64bit kernel with x32bit os, promised that 5.1 will be full x64bit os for zenfone 2.. And x64bit app of AnTuTu didn't work in zenfone 2 but works with ARM x64bit os
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Linux in Stock ROM is 64bit. This is the *actual* OS.
Android is, hmmm.. how to say.. it's pseudo-OS which doesn't manage neither processes nor memory, but simply uses modified java virtual machine per process.
So, generally speaking, Stock ROM *has* 64bit OS. Only java machine i.e. Android is 32bit.
But, since real OS (Linux kernel) is 64bit, you can use 64bit applications. I mean Linux binaries and libraries.
I compile binaries on my Ubuntu x64 and can freely use them without any modifications on Zenfone 2.
There is NO Android exist which is fully compiled in 64bits on x86 architecture. You can check AOSP configs - all them are using 32bits. Only Kernel (i.e. Linux OS) is 64bits. And Android 5.1.1 has no changes in this subject.
It's like Windows x64 where you can use 32bit applications. So, Stock ROM is 64 bit OS with 32bit Android applications (including 32bit Android framework).
Hey,
I'm searching for a good Android 6.0 rom for the Nexus 7 (2012). I have already tried some out, but all of them had problems with lag/stuttering... I know thats because of its old hardware, but is there any rom which runs smooth?
iason747 said:
Hey,
I'm searching for a good Android 6.0 rom for the Nexus 7 (2012). I have already tried some out, but all of them had problems with lag/stuttering... I know thats because of its old hardware, but is there any rom which runs smooth?
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Pure Nexus with parrot mod and fstrim is about as good as you will get on that machine.
Hi devs i notice there aren't any 64 - bit kernels for Redmi 2/prime. I realise we have 64 bit roms now (like pirej's) so i would like to request for a 64 bit kernel for our redmi 2.
Thanks
It's not that simple to make a kernel, there's alot of headaches when we need to add some features, also, redmi 2 1gb dosn't run great on 64bit OS (At least my variant). I only build kernels for the most optimized rom for my device, that in this case is: AOSP 8.0.0.
If you have a 1gb redmi 2 I would recommend you to switch to AOSP 8.0.0 for a while, but if you have the 2gb variant it's better to use a 64bit rom.
Thanks
TecnoTailsPlays said:
It's not that simple to make a kernel, there's alot of headaches when we need to add some features, also, redmi 2 1gb dosn't run great on 64bit OS (At least my variant). I only build kernels for the most optimized rom for my device, that in this case is: AOSP 8.0.0.
If you have a 1gb redmi 2 I would recommend you to switch to AOSP 8.0.0 for a while, but if you have the 2gb variant it's better to use a 64bit rom.
Thanks
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Isn't pirej himself use 1gb variant?
KaranBhatia said:
Hi devs i notice there aren't any 64 - bit kernels for Redmi 2/prime. I realise we have 64 bit roms now (like pirej's) so i would like to request for a 64 bit kernel for our redmi 2.
Thanks
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There are no 64bit roms either, without rom there is no need for the kernel..
I really dont know why no one makes 64 rom..??
As far as i know.. only @s.sawrav made some test builds, but i dont know why he abandoned it too..
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Isn't pirej himself use 1gb variant?
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Mhm.. 1 GB, and it runs my 64bit rom better than the 32bit, its snappier, smoother..
pirej said:
There are no 64bit roms either, without rom there is no need for the kernel..
I really dont know why no one makes 64 rom..??
As far as i know.. only @s.sawrav made some test builds, but i dont know why he abandoned it too..
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umm I beg to differ you do have a working 64 bit rom for our device
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Mhm.. 1 GB, and it runs my 64bit rom better than the 32bit, its snappier, smoother..
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yeah but my experience with it was not so great which was why I posted this thread. but thanks anyway, I'm using s.sawrav's AOSP 8.0.0 now, runs great for an experimental rom:fingers-crossed: maybe expect kernel for 8.0.0 sometime.
thanks
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umm I beg to differ you do have a working 64 bit rom for our device
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I think what pirej mean is there are too few 64 bit, and only a few user use it, so only a little demand. Sorry for my bad English
Finally we can expect Android Oreo 8.0 for Nexus 7...
Android Oreo devices with 512MB to 1GB of memory will come with the all the Go optimizations.
https://www.android.com/versions/oreo-8-0/go-edition/
akashkyh said:
Finally we can expect Android Oreo 8.0 for Nexus 7...
Android Oreo devices with 512MB to 1GB of memory will come with the all the Go optimizations.
https://www.android.com/versions/oreo-8-0/go-edition/
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Is it a rom? Because it says minimum of android nougat
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Ice Zodiac said:
Is it a rom? Because it says minimum of android nougat
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Its a ROM to be made specifically for devices with 512MB to 1GB RAM!!
akashkyh said:
Finally we can expect Android Oreo 8.0 for Nexus 7...
Android Oreo devices with 512MB to 1GB of memory will come with the all the Go optimizations.
https://www.android.com/versions/oreo-8-0/go-edition/
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This doesn't mean we'll build oreo for the aging N7, even with app optimizations and system optimizations oreo still probably won't run well on the Nexus 7 2012. I don't even see why we bother with android, what we need to do is work on Sailfish, because that runs buttery smooth on this tablet. Who knows though, maybe we'll see a Sailfish OS 2.x build for the 2012 Nexus 7 soon
Anyway I would be surprised if android go actually makes the Nexus 7 noticeably faster, heck, I would be surprised to see an oreo build at all.
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This doesn't mean we'll build oreo for the aging N7, even with app optimizations and system optimizations oreo still probably won't run well on the Nexus 7 2012. I don't even see why we bother with android, what we need to do is work on Sailfish, because that runs buttery smooth on this tablet. Who knows though, maybe we'll see a Sailfish OS 2.x build for the 2012 Nexus 7 soon
Anyway I would be surprised if android go actually makes the Nexus 7 noticeably faster, heck, I would be surprised to see an oreo build at all.
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I would hope that the Devs manage to port it to the grouper, because AOSP Nougat with no gapps is fairly usable, so I think Oreo isn't much heavier than Nougat
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I would hope that the Devs manage to port it to the grouper, because AOSP Nougat with no gapps is fairly usable, so I think Oreo isn't much heavier than Nougat
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I prefer Sailfish OS, its faster, smoother, and much much much more lightweight.
late to this party, but as an owner of a grouper, i can report that my sony xperia sp of similar vintage is running google go built on 8.1 with great success
As another owner of a grouper I would like to see this come to some light and possible development. Available for testing too ..
So I feel dumb as I created a thread asking about exactly this without realising this thread exists... You can add me to the list of people that would be interested in seeing this come to life.
additional info : the xperia sp with this enabled has far greater battery drain in standby than the "stock" oreo - presumably due to power used in shuffling memory space
standby with it enabled is ~ 36 hours... but without it is 9 (yes, that's NINE !) days
Lol I just brought my nexus 7 2012 back to life. Rooted, installed twrp. Android go/Oreo would be nice.
Majin101 said:
Lol I just brought my nexus 7 2012 back to life. Rooted, installed twrp. Android go/Oreo would be nice.
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mine's doing great service as the music media hub in the kitchen / living area, porting flac files from the server using neutron (great app !) via bluetooth to the nad d3020 and onto a 2+1 wharfedale speaker set - sounds fantastic
it's on 7.1.2 security patched to jan 2018
if you don't use it already, i recommend wugfresh's nexus root toolkit :good:
scruffy1 said:
mine's doing great service as the music media hub in the kitchen / living area, porting flac files from the server using neutron (great app !) via bluetooth to the nad d3020 and onto a 2+1 wharfedale speaker set - sounds fantastic
it's on 7.1.2 security patched to jan 2018
if you don't use it already, i recommend wugfresh's nexus root toolkit :good:
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Witch rom version ara you using?
kodacy said:
Witch rom version ara you using?
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whatever wugfresh has suggested was the latest when i did it
7.1.2
5 april 2018
kernel
3.1.10 nougat
scruffy1 said:
whatever wugfresh has suggested was the latest when i did it
7.1.2
5 april 2018
kernel
3.1.10 nougat
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I don't think wugfresh has suggestions of firmware
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I don't think wugfresh has suggestions of firmware
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aosp_grouper-7.1.2-ota-eng-20180409.ds
i used stock grouper rom for developers i guess
it was a standard, not a custom rom
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aosp_grouper-7.1.2-ota-eng-20180409.ds
i used stock grouper rom for developers i guess
it was a standard, not a custom rom
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Thank you for the tip, Nexus 7 Tulip running smoother then ever now.
Unofficial Oreo 8.1 AEX rom runs very fluidly on my nexus 7 flo (using gapps 8.1 pico). Its much better than any other rom that I've tried. It comes with the elementalX kernel and substratum built in (has 9 custom themes).
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Unofficial Oreo 8.1 AEX rom runs very fluidly on my nexus 7 flo (using gapps 8.1 pico). Its much better than any other rom that I've tried. It comes with the elementalX kernel and substratum built in (has 9 custom themes).
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but we have nexus 7 Grouper/Tilapia
you know that you are referencing a rom from 2013 right? grouper/tilapia is way outdated and isn't android kit kat or something like it.