I cant find much info on this device so I figured I would ask here. I picked up one of those Carplay AI Box dongles for the car and am having an issue keeping a bluetooth connection. Im trying to connect to and ODB MX+ which is attached to my car, via bluetooth and an app like DashCommand. Only issue is everytime I restart the car I have to go into the pairing menu of DashCommand for it to reactiveate bluetooth on the Ai Box. For whatever reason it seems bluetooth just isnt staying on. Even when the app is running and its connected the bluetooth indicator on the MI Box is off.
psychoholica said:
I cant find much info on this device so I figured I would ask here. I picked up one of those Carplay AI Box dongles for the car and am having an issue keeping a bluetooth connection. Im trying to connect to and ODB MX+ which is attached to my car, via bluetooth and an app like DashCommand. Only issue is everytime I restart the car I have to go into the pairing menu of DashCommand for it to reactiveate bluetooth on the Ai Box. For whatever reason it seems bluetooth just isnt staying on. Even when the app is running and its connected the bluetooth indicator on the MI Box is off.
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What device. You haven't listed what the device is details, what you've done to resolve it or what the reseller suggests.
You brought a cheap Chinese origin device and then expect support - do you realise xda isn't the seller or the support forum. What I mean by that is you have to put the effort in to get help
Wake up on the wrong side of bed today or whats your deal?
I came here asking for help which I've done multiple times over the years, never once getting such a crap response. Yes, I bought a cheap Chinese android device, have you never purchased anything from China? I bought it because from the limited info on the internet it seemed to be the fastest one out there with the Snapdragon 665 cpu. If there was a better one made my Samsung or whoever I would have bought that but they dont exist so excuse me for buying somethign from China.
Any why on earth would I assume XDA is the reseller? There are literally hundreds of thousands of threads on this site of people asking for help with something they didnt buy from XDA so no idea why the hostility.
Thanks for your worthless reply, why did you even bother?
You could try one of the 'Bluetooth auto connect' apps on the Play Store.
But what I would do is use Tasker. Setup a profile with tasks that: turns on Bluetooth, then connects to your ODB device. And set the profile to activate when the display is 'on'.
You lucked out with yours as my CarPlay AI box doesn't even allow more than one device to be paired...so I've been unable to even pair my ODB reader.
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Having problems with my Droid X and car system connecting via Bluetooth.
Random problems:
Often fails to connect at all, other times connects fine or partial.
Transfers the phonbook sometimes and other times it does not.
Connects the audio fine and not the Hands Free.
Sometimes I need to re-pair the entire setup to get it to work at all.
Sometimes I need to power both the phone and receiver down and back up to get it to work.
Does anyone have any ideas on a solution?
It's driving me crazy, want to use the Bluetooth both for the Hands Free and audio streaming.
Droid X, Android Version 2.2.1, System Version Verizon.2.3.340.MBB810.Verizon.en.US
Car System:
Kenwood KDC-X994, built in Bluetooth.
Bluetooth version 3.12.0
My wife's iPhone works fine with this receiver using the Bluetooth.
Thanks
Sorry, my DX connects every time I get in my car (Ford Sync system). Have you tried connecting it to other Bluetooth devices to see if it's maybe the phone itself?
No I have not tried it with another system.
An excellent idea but at this time I do not have access to another receiver with Bluetooth.
Did get an answer from Kenwood that it was not tested with the Droid X but was tested with the Droid.
Wonder if it could be a phone or receiver problem. I need to come up with a way of testing both units on a continuous basis.
The last two days it has connected just fine, but Friday evening it was giving problems.
Thanks for your help.
You can try finding a little cheapo Bluetooth USB receiver from a local store, use it with your laptop or PC, and try pairing your phone with it. Then after you're done testing just return it (make sure there's an open box return policy though!).
sfreemanoh said:
You can try finding a little cheapo Bluetooth USB receiver from a local store, use it with your laptop or PC, and try pairing your phone with it. Then after you're done testing just return it (make sure there's an open box return policy though!).
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Thanks,
I will give that a try, maybe this weekend if I get time.
i have the same phone and Kenwood radio. What I needed to do was this:
Delete any bluetooth devices in the Kenwood radio.
Delete the paired Kenwood device in your phone.
Make the Kenwood discoverable, scan for it with the phone. Once the phone finds the Kenwood pair with it. When the Kenwood requests PBAP access, click allow ONE TIME ONLY. This is the key. I saw the Kenwood send the request several times. If I confirmed the request more than once, the unit acted flaky. Hopefully this will fix your issue. It did for me!
I will give that a try.
The Kenwood does download the phone book everytime it connects.
Sometimes it says completed very quickly and then the HF fails.
Other times it will neve finish downloading.
Thanks
The vast majority of car stereos that support Bluetooth A2DP are notoriously fickle with it. I went to a Car Toys last July after getting my Droid X, and tested literally about 20 different car stereos with playing music over Bluetooth. Half of them would not even pair, most of the rest had various problems like wouldn't play music or it skipped/cut out a lot, etc. Only three manufacturers had multiple units that worked flawlessly: Pioneer, Clarion and Parrot. I asked one of the guys there if this was normal, and he said yeah, A2DP was very poorly supported in most car stereos but that he knew some of the manufacturers were working on making it better for the next year's models.
This doesn't help you, but even though your wife's iPhone works and your DX doesn't, it's unlikely the problem is with your DX.
Roland,
Thanks for the info. Interesting there are so many problems with car stereos.
I will definitely keep this in mind the next time I buy a car stereo.
One interesting item is I rented a Ford Escape for a week and my Droid X worked flawlessly with the Ford factory stereo.
Go figure. It was the high end factory unit, Sat radio, USB port, Bluetooth all built in.
Hopefully I'm not asking about something that's already been answered. But after spending hours on google, forums, etc I'm finding myself at a dead end.
On my note 3 I've got to liking the hands free mode but forgetting to turn it on when I get in the car or even worse, not turning it off when I get out is getting really annoying.
Now unlike most, I don't have bluetooth audio in the car at all. I've never needed it & never will. A simple headset is good enough. Problem is, the headset is always on, driving or not.
So I'm left with the OBD adapter on the car as a potential for letting the phone know I'm driving. But I just can't the damm thing to work.
Now the OBD adapter connects to the phone perfectly fine & I can load up the info in pretty much any app I try. But trying to set the phones "location settings" for the car (using the OBD adapter) just isn't doing anything. No matter how many times I tap the OBD adapter in the menu, it just does nothing. Yet bluetooth audio devices connect right up.
So my question now, is.... can you use the OBD adapter as an option for car location? or is there a way to hack the phone to allow it as an option? or am I just not looking at it right?
Thank's in advance.
O2 Samsung Galaxy Note 3 (SM-N9005) - Android 4.4.2 (Stock)
I am coming from a long history of HTC use and so I apologise if this question has an obvious answer.
Previously, if I wanted to connect to my bluetooth in the car (previously paired with), I would just hit the bluetooth button in quick settings to turn it on and that was it, just like connecting to wifi.
If I do this on my S7E, I then get another screen popping up that tells me my device is visible to others and lists previously paired devices for me to select from, and then I have push the back button to leave that screen?
Is there a simpler way as I used to do on my HTC?
cheers
C.
PS - I am sure this will be the first of a number of questions as I get used to TouchWiz and Marshmallow......Sorry.....
crazyC said:
Previously, if I wanted to connect to my bluetooth in the car (previously paired with), I would just hit the bluetooth button in quick settings to turn it on and that was it, just like connecting to wifi.
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Have you ever *paired* your new phone with your car?
I've only had two cars with BT in them, but in both cases the car and phone had to be paired before they would work together.
Once that was done then it would work as you expect.
Specifics of getting your *car* into pairing mode I can't help with, but once you do that you should be able to select it while scanning from the phone (as you've seen already the phone will list devices it finds) and you can finish walking through the pairing.
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Have you ever *paired* your new phone with your car?
I've only had two cars with BT in them, but in both cases the car and phone had to be paired before they would work together.
Once that was done then it would work as you expect.
Specifics of getting your *car* into pairing mode I can't help with, but once you do that you should be able to select it while scanning from the phone (as you've seen already the phone will list devices it finds) and you can finish walking through the pairing.
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Oh yes, it was paired with the bluetooth fine (its actually a visor BT device, not the car itself), and when I turn on the BT it shows up on the list of previously paired devices)
Don't have to make it a trusted device for it to auto-pair?
Why turn Bluetooth off at all?
Just leave it on.
Regards,
Dave
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Don't have to make it a trusted device for it to auto-pair?
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Nope, just had to be paired.
Trusted Device brings in the Smart Lock stuff, which enables the option of having your phone NOT authenticate you (pattern/pin/finger/passwd) when connected.
For example, I have my car bluetooth set as a trusted device so that when I'm driving I don't get any identity challenge to use the phone (like for navigation), the screen will just come on as requested.
Smart lock is blocked by my exchange administrator as I get my work emails on my phone.
I turn the Bluetooth on the phone off because I don't turn the one in the car off and it's just outside the house and will stay connected.
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Joying JY-VOS01N4GS w/ an SC-9853i 1.8GHz Octa-core, installed in a 1991 Toyota MR2 with a Honda K24A2 turbo engine swapped into it, controlled by an ECU called a Hondata KPro V4.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/143309152617
I can install and run Hondata or RealDash apps on the stereo without issue, but I can't get it to connect to the ECU itself so I'm looking for suggestions. I've got a $20 no name tablet or a 7+ yrs old Samsung Note 3....all connect to the KPro without issue. Hondata, RealDash and Torque apps all connect without issue on the tablet or phone. New $350+ stereo...keeps giving me failed to connect error.
I'm open to rooting if needed, installing a different Bluetooth app, I have the pin to access developer options, etc....I just need it to connect and work.
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Joying JY-VOS01N4GS w/ an SC-9853i 1.8GHz Octa-core, installed in a 1991 Toyota MR2 with a Honda K24A2 turbo engine swapped into it, controlled by an ECU called a Hondata KPro V4.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/143309152617
I can install and run Hondata or RealDash apps on the stereo without issue, but I can't get it to connect to the ECU itself so I'm looking for suggestions. I've got a $20 no name tablet or a 7+ yrs old Samsung Note 3....all connect to the KPro without issue. Hondata, RealDash and Torque apps all connect without issue on the tablet or phone. New $350+ stereo...keeps giving me failed to connect error.
I'm open to rooting if needed, installing a different Bluetooth app, I have the pin to access developer options, etc....I just need it to connect and work.
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It will not pair. Joying (actually FYT/SYU) crippled the bluetooth on their units. You can only pair with phones and a few OBD and TPMS BT devices.
For the rest: nothing.
And that is done onto the lowest compiled level including the MCU. Other drivers/apps/kernels/whatever will not work.
I've been writing Joying and they offered to sell me their OBDII dongle at a discount. I explained to them shortly before writing this post that the car doesn't have an OBDII port since it's a 91, lightly explained the engine sway, but I haven't heard anything yet. Why would they go through all that effort...just to force us to buy their $15 OBDII dongle?
What about universal Bluetooth dongle plugged into one of the USB cords? Or maybe even USB to USB? The ECU has a USB port that I use when I connect to my laptop to run KPro Manager (a Windows PC based program) and the RealDash app on Android does give me the option of Bluetooth, USB or serial input. I'm currently monitoring from this tablet which is completely illegible while driving, needs to be manually powered on/off and then reconnected to Bluetooth...not being able to see the gauges on a much larger screen and automatically reconnect when I start the car crushes EVERY reason why I bought this stereo. There's gotta be a way.
Wrote a long reply, stupid token expired...I'm gonna try this.
https://www.hondata.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18829
Bluetooth dongle didn't work, but I can't confirm if it's a dongle issue since I can connect to it but then the Hondata app says "Ignition not on" when it is. Nevertheless today I played around with the GF's cwr who has a Joying JY-HOS02P4 screen in hers, it's only 3 months old, and it'll connect to my Hondata just fine! Would it be as simple as taking the Bluetooth APK from her car and installing it on mine?
Bump for help...there's gotta be a way :/
Bumping again, hoping maybe someone can help.
Following - need this for ECUTEK bluetooth adapter in my GTR, otherwise the screen is worthless...
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Bumping again, hoping maybe someone can help.
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Like mentioned a couple of posts above. Joying crippled Bluetooth and there is simply no "normal" bluetooth stack.
You cannot alter the current BT app as it won't be signed correctly anymore and it will not even be visible anymore.
You cannot add another BT app as that will not have the correct signing either.
Your question is not new. This BT "not being able to pair" is already an issue since 2016. You would be the first to find a solution.
The only thing you can try is what I described in this post, based on info from ojuniour.
Having said that: you should also search the rest of the forum and not only stick to your own question. Otherwise you might already have tried what I described. It might work, it might not.
Surfer, thank you so much for the reply. I've read in depth and was fearful of that, but will try what is in the thread you linked. If you'd be so kind, couple questions that you may have answers to:
- I have a sofia 9853 with android 8.1 (upgrading to 9.0), does that make things better worse or same for the bluetooth situation?
- I've seen some talk on much older threads of using Comfast® CF-WU725B as an external/usb bluetooth solution? Did this (or an alternative dongle) ever or does it still work?
- I've also seen talk of used xposed modules to add bluetooth devices to the whitelist - is there any truth to this?
Surfer, thanks in advance, this is for a tesla screen in a GTR. By removing the stock screen we lose a ton of critical info that can only be gotten back through ecutek, which currently only has a bluetooth solution for android.
M5James - sorry for hijacking your thread, but hopefully this helps you as well
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Surfer, thank you so much for the reply. I've read in depth and was fearful of that, but will try what is in the thread you linked. If you'd be so kind, couple questions that you may have answers to:
- I have a sofia 9853 with android 8.1 (upgrading to 9.0), does that make things better worse or same for the bluetooth situation?
- I've seen some talk on much older threads of using Comfast® CF-WU725B as an external/usb bluetooth solution? Did this (or an alternative dongle) ever or does it still work?
- I've also seen talk of used xposed modules to add bluetooth devices to the whitelist - is there any truth to this?
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1. There is no Sofia 9853. There is a Intel Sofia AND an Intel SC9853i. Those are 2 different CPUs needing different ROMs.
2. No idea. Like mentioned: an external BT dongle has not worked till now, but I have never heard of that Confast one.
3. Xposed is not supported on the 9853i. Not on Android 8.1 and neither on 9.0
@surfer63, thank you again, your thread here (https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...qa-tips-info-roll-joying-fyt-sc9853i-t3979377) helped me tremendously
@m5james, on a whim i plugged in ecutek to usb via the usb mini port, and shockingly there is support for it. Maybe try the same with Hondata if there is an sort of interface on it.
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Like mentioned a couple of posts above. Joying crippled Bluetooth and there is simply no "normal" bluetooth stack.
You cannot alter the current BT app as it won't be signed correctly anymore and it will not even be visible anymore.
You cannot add another BT app as that will not have the correct signing either.
Your question is not new. This BT "not being able to pair" is already an issue since 2016. You would be the first to find a solution.
The only thing you can try is what I described in this post, based on info from ojuniour.
Having said that: you should also search the rest of the forum and not only stick to your own question. Otherwise you might already have tried what I described. It might work, it might not.
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Fair enough...honestly like 10 +/-yrs ago I was WAY more into custom ROMs, baking, etc etc but nowadays I feel like it's over my head again. The only reason why I asked about using other BT versions from other Joying devices is because the GF's similarily aged stereo was able to connect, but I understand the signing thing since our two stereos don't share the same OS and CPU.
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M5James - sorry for hijacking your thread, but hopefully this helps you as well
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You're fine, the more exposure the merrier...I'm not as good at this stuff as I used to be so I'm just hoping someone smarter than me can help
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@surfer63, thank you again, your thread here (https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...qa-tips-info-roll-joying-fyt-sc9853i-t3979377) helped me tremendously
@m5james, on a whim i plugged in ecutek to usb via the usb mini port, and shockingly there is support for it. Maybe try the same with Hondata if there is an sort of interface on it.
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Do you have a pic of how you physically hooked it up? I haven't touched much on this subject since my original post and honestly don't recall the connections at the moment but I do recall mine having a square port (I don't know it's official name) that allows me to connect via USB to a laptop. I think I even tried connecting directly to the stereo that way but no luck.
Hondata runs on the screen easily in both portrait and landscape mode but I prefer RealDash, which at doesn't like portrait mode...I'm hoping it's something I can adjust to fit myself since RealDash allows for customisable gauges.
@m5james that is a micro usb port you have, try connecting it to a usb port on the head unit (same way you would a laptop) and open your hondata app - with any luck you'll be in business. If one port doesn't work, try the other - good luck
If you guys want to use the bluetooth pairing with basically about anything then buy the "Stop" brand. Unit actually confess with 2 BT models. One for music and phone call, the other one is located in the android bluetooth setting that would enable you to pair with anything.
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If you guys want to use the bluetooth pairing with basically about anything then buy the "Stop" brand. Unit actually confess with 2 BT models. One for music and phone call, the other one is located in the android bluetooth setting that would enable you to pair with anything.
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I looked on eBay for "stop android DIN" and nothing comes up.
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I looked on eBay for "stop android DIN" and nothing comes up.
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lol my bad I mean Atoto.. Damn auto correction.
here is an example of one connecting to ecuTek obd bluetooth:
https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141515
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@m5james that is a micro usb port you have, try connecting it to a usb port on the head unit (same way you would a laptop) and open your hondata app - with any luck you'll be in business. If one port doesn't work, try the other - good luck
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Wait wait wait. Wait a minute.... Are you saying you are able to get the ecuTek OBD bluetooth to work in wired mode[ to the head unit] without connecting to it wirelessly through bluetooth?
And you are using the ecuTek App?
I have an Atoto S8, and this is my first Android powered head unit (coming from their linux-based F7, which was more of an appliance UI instead of a smart OS). I love the extra functionality it gives me, running apps and video players directly on the unit. But Bluetooth support is wonky.
My wife and I share the car, and ever since swapping to the Android powered unit, it only reconnects to whoever drove last. So if I drive the car all the time, its fine. But when my wife drives, she says bluetooth isn't working, so I have to go into settings on the BT app (BT1 as they call it) and see the three phones listed as paired (my old phone, my new phone and my wife's phone), and click on hers. Wait a bit, and then she is good to go. But then next time I drive, I realize my phone isn't connecting now, so I have to go do it again. Which means she's going to complain next time that her phone isn't working again.
I've installed a few bluetooth powered head units before, and even the Android Auto supporting F7 before this one, worked as expected: If the last device isn't available, try to connect to another recent paired one. It seems to just get stuck on the last one for some reason. Is this a limitation of how bluetooth works on these units?
have you solved this issue
i am finding it very frustrating
i thought i would solve it using the app "automate"
this would star a sequence of checks and sytematic attempted connections
but, oddly enough you cant automate the triggering o fthe flow
so it would only start if actioned
Yes, or rather THEY solved it.
Reach out to customer support. There is an update to the Bluetooth module that makes this work the way I described.
I got an A6pf in my other car and had them make an update for that one too. Much happier now.